[0:12]7-9-1-5, Detective Joe Ricciari with the town of ****** Police Department,
[0:18]present as Detective ****** of the Palm Beach Police Department,
[0:22]and could you state your name for the record?
[0:24]Would you raise your right hand for me, please?
[0:28]You saw me swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
[0:32]Yeah.
[0:33]Okay.
[0:34]And that's my card.
[0:36]Okay.
[0:36]Okay.
[0:37]Obviously, I am here because we are working a case involving Jeff Epstein, or Jeffrey,
[0:47]and I understand you may have some information as to your visits over to his house,
[0:54]either to work or to visit.
[0:56]If you could, please, in your own words, tell me from the beginning how you were introduced to Mr. Epstein.
[1:04]She got me her ass.
[1:06]And she said, like, the first time I went over there, I went over there just to meet him,
[1:11]and she went and gave him a massage, and I just sat in his house and waited.
[1:16]Okay.
[1:16]How long ago was this?
[1:18]Like, seven months ago.
[1:19]It was actually in March.
[1:20]I know it was five months ago.
[1:21]It was in March of 2005.
[1:22]When I woke up in my room.
[1:23]2005.
[1:24]Uh-huh.
[1:26]Okay.
[1:27]And then, like, after he met me, he asked me if I'd like to go on a massage,
[1:32]and I was kind of hesitant just because it was kind of weird,
[1:35]but I was like, okay, I'm going to go on a massage.
[1:36]I did anyway, and I went up there and gave him a massage,
[1:40]and he gave me a 200 the first time.
[1:44]Okay.
[1:44]How many times have you been to his house, total?
[1:47]Between, like, seven and ten, because it's been seven months,
[1:49]so it's been, like, once a month, maybe a little bit.
[1:51]Okay, seven to ten times a month.
[1:53]I'm sorry, seven to ten times?
[1:55]Yeah.
[1:55]When was the last time you were there?
[1:57]The September 30th.
[1:59]It was not the last Friday before.
[2:01]Okay.
[2:07]Okay.
[2:07]Okay.
[2:14]And what was your...
[2:16]What was your duties when you went to work for him?
[2:20]Just giving him a massage and that's it.
[2:23]Okay.
[2:24]Okay.
[2:28]When you entered the house, who were you introduced to?
[2:32]Introduced to every time I went?
[2:34]No, like, the first time.
[2:35]The first time?
[2:36]Jeff.
[2:40]And Jeff.
[2:42]And there was other people there, but I wasn't introduced to them.
[2:45]Okay.
[2:46]I can give you their numbers.
[2:51]I've interviewed a lot of girls, and basically everybody's told me,
[3:03]like, some have held back, some have told me the complete truth.
[3:08]Okay.
[3:09]So what I want you to do is tell me the complete truth of what happened, okay?
[3:12]That's what happened.
[3:14]Okay.
[3:14]I know, I mean, I know girls that have done more, and I, like, but I haven't.
[3:18]He's asking, so I'm not going to lie to you, but I haven't.
[3:22]Okay.
[3:22]Because I haven't known him that long, so I...
[3:24]Okay.
[3:25]When, your first time you went, you just sat in the kitchen and waited for...
[3:29]I guess he wanted to meet me at some point.
[3:34]Okay.
[3:34]Okay.
[3:35]As you...
[3:36]As you've gone, tell me, has anything escalated from just a massage?
[3:43]No, like, the first time I went, I waited.
[3:46]The second time I went, I stayed in all my clothes and, like, gave him a massage,
[3:50]and then I think it was probably the third time I went, he asked me if I'd like to get, like,
[3:55]more of this or whatever, and I said no, I just feel so comfortable.
[3:59]And after that, he never asked me anything, like, to make me feel uncomfortable.
[4:06]Do you give...
[4:07]Do you give them a massage in your undergarments?
[4:08]No.
[4:10]Completely clothed?
[4:10]Completely clothed, yeah.
[4:12]Okay.
[4:16]Um...
[4:16]I mean, he's asked me to, but I said no, because I just don't feel comfortable.
[4:20]Has he touched you?
[4:21]No.
[4:23]Has he, um...
[4:25]Of course, when he came to touch me, he was giving me a hug, a bye.
[4:27]That's the closest.
[4:29]But not inappropriate, let's be honest.
[4:31]Okay.
[4:33]Um, basically, you've just massaged him?
[4:37]Yeah.
[4:38]And you received $200 for a massage each time?
[4:41]Um...
[4:42]Uh, last couple times, he gave me $300.
[4:44]Just because I told him I needed money.
[4:47]And I told him that driving here from Orlando is costing me a lot, so...
[4:52]He didn't, you know, he never asked me to do more.
[4:56]Was anybody else in the room while you were giving him a massage?
[4:58]No.
[4:59]Was just you and him?
[5:00]Just you and him.
[5:02]You've never gone upstairs?
[5:04]Yeah, I have, but not while I was giving him a massage.
[5:07]Okay.
[5:08]One time we went up there, and we were hanging out, just talking and stuff.
[5:12]Okay.
[5:12]Have you been recently contacted by anybody, um, working for Jeff?
[5:18]Mm-hmm.
[5:19]Yeah.
[5:19]Who have you been contacted with?
[5:22]Um...
[5:23]I can't remember.
[5:24]Oh, besides...
[5:25]I don't know how I just saw you, but, you know, wanted to know, like, what was going on.
[5:32]And I told him what I knew, because I don't know much.
[5:36]Okay.
[5:38]Did he leave you a number?
[5:39]Did he leave you, um...
[5:42]He didn't leave me a number, but it's on my phone, I think.
[5:45]Okay, did he leave you a...
[5:46]Did I get that number?
[5:47]Mm-hmm.
[5:48]It's not on here anymore, but I swear it's a...
[6:05]He did call me.
[6:06]What did he say?
[6:12]It actually might be on my old phone.
[6:14]My old phone's dead.
[6:23]But it's on this one, because...
[6:25]Is that an Excel?
[6:26]Yeah.
[6:28]Oh, it's a battery.
[6:30]Um...
[6:30]Dave has an Excel charger.
[6:33]Oh, did you...
[6:34]Did you plug that in?
[6:35]Yeah.
[6:50]And what did he ask you?
[6:51]Um, the...
[6:53]What's going on with this whole thing, and, um...
[6:57]That's it.
[6:58]And I just told him...
[6:59]Did he come up here, or did you meet with him in Florida?
[7:01]He came up here.
[7:02]Oh, he came up here.
[7:03]Yeah.
[7:03]He met you right here?
[7:05]Not here.
[7:05]I didn't want him here.
[7:06]I know him at Longwood State House.
[7:09]And I just...
[7:10]Like, he just kept asking me questions that I didn't know the answers to, so...
[7:13]Was he an investigator, or was he a...
[7:16]Um...
[7:16]An attorney?
[7:17]I don't know.
[7:18]I don't think he was an attorney.
[7:20]How?
[7:20]Because he kept saying the information he was getting,
[7:23]for me, it was going to go to Jeff's attorney,
[7:25]so I don't think he was an attorney.
[7:30]And what kind of questions was he asking?
[7:31]Was the police were involved?
[7:32]Yeah, if, um...
[7:34]How the police got involved, I said, I don't know.
[7:38]Um...
[7:38]What kind of questions they were asking, I said, I don't know,
[7:40]because I haven't been questioned yet.
[7:42]And just, like, how old I was when I went there.
[7:46]Basically, what you guys asked me, like, what I did when I went there.
[7:49]Mm-hmm.
[7:49]And how old were you when you first started on?
[7:51]And did he question, um...
[7:58]Did a guy know him?
[7:59]At the same time?
[7:59]No.
[8:00]Did he ever?
[8:01]No.
[8:03]He said he was a representative of Jeffrey Epstein.
[8:07]Yes.
[8:07]Did he call you?
[8:08]Did Jeffrey or someone say...
[8:10]No, he called me.
[8:11]This is the number.
[8:12]It's, um...
[8:13]Okay.
[8:18]When was this you met him?
[8:19]Like, two, three years...
[8:23]Friday or Saturday.
[8:27]Did he come by himself?
[8:28]Yeah.
[8:29]Did he take the conversation?
[8:30]No.
[8:31]He asked me if he'd come by himself.
[8:32]If he reaches out to you again,
[8:37]just, uh...
[8:38]Give him my number.
[8:39]Have him call me.
[8:40]Okay.
[8:40]Okay.
[8:41]He actually asked for your number, but I didn't...
[8:44]I had...
[8:44]I had a number in my phone bag, like...
[8:47]And then I was just like, you know, they're from PDSO, so that's all.
[8:51]Palm Beach PD.
[8:52]Yeah.
[8:52]I'm with the Palm Beach Police.
[8:53]Okay.
[8:54]Oh, like Palm Beach Island?
[8:56]Yeah.
[8:56]Yeah.
[8:56]Okay.
[8:57]I don't know.
[8:57]Okay.
[8:58]When you saw him...
[8:59]I told him the Palm Beach Sheriff's office.
[9:00]When you went to Jeffrey Epstein, you knew...
[9:02]Where was the house located?
[9:04]Um, on Palm Beach.
[9:04]In Palm Beach?
[9:05]Yeah.
[9:05]Okay.
[9:06]Oh, he asked...
[9:07]The guy asked me also, um, if I've ever been anywhere else besides his house.
[9:14]With Jeffrey?
[9:15]Yeah.
[9:15]Unless I know, because all I've ever been is his house.
[9:18]His house.
[9:19]Okay.
[9:20]So, basically, all you did was a standard massage.
[9:23]Mm-hmm.
[9:23]And the massage was?
[9:25]His back and his lower back.
[9:26]Right.
[9:27]And his feet.
[9:27]Okay.
[9:28]Have you ever seen him naked?
[9:29]No.
[9:29]In a towel, but that's it.
[9:31]That's it.
[9:32]Has he ever touched you?
[9:34]No.
[9:35]Has he ever touched himself while you were massaging?
[9:37]No.
[9:39]Oh, man.
[9:40]He was mostly, like, on his own.
[9:42]Like, my friend had told me he was perverted, but he was never that way toward me.
[9:46]He asked me once, and I think...
[9:47]Where did he ask you?
[9:48]He asked me, like, the third time I went there.
[9:50]To do what?
[9:51]To, if I wanted to get naked or do anything more, and I said no.
[9:55]And I think he could tell I was, like, uncomfortable with it, so...
[9:59]Okay.
[10:02]So, aside from seeing anybody else in the house?
[10:07]I'm not...
[10:08]Yeah, but I don't know the...
[10:10]Like, I didn't meet them, but I've seen them.
[10:12]Like, I've never been formally introduced.
[10:14]But I've seen a little, like, short woman, you know, somebody that really didn't speak
[10:21]a lot of English, and then there's a guy with blonde hair, and he doesn't really speak
[10:26]a lot of English either.
[10:28]Okay.
[10:30]And, but I've never been formally introduced to them.
[10:33]And then, I was never introduced.
[10:39]I had just seen a student that said hi to her before.
[10:42]But then Sarah and Jeff have been formally introduced.
[10:46]And then Sarah just...
[10:56]Yeah.
[10:56]And then I met them.
[10:56]And then Sarah just...
[10:57]Uh-huh.
[11:00]I met Sarah after I went to the school.
[11:01]Okay.
[11:04]For the record, your date of birth is...
[11:06]Anybody else has asked you to go on over there?
[11:16]Um, yeah, I know everyone was there.
[11:20]So, the very first time you went to the house was when...
[11:22]Uh-huh.
[11:29]At the same time...
[11:30]Yeah.
[11:31]The unsuspecting friend of yours.
[11:33]So, I mean...
[11:38]It was no secret.
[11:38]I mean, everybody knows that...
[11:40]Uh-huh.
[11:41]I know that.
[11:42]Um...
[11:43]So, I just...
[11:45]Okay.
[11:45]I don't know you.
[11:46]that long. She wanted to make money off me. I just wanted to go to the shoe room and she
[11:52]knew the situation. How far has it gone with them? She really doesn't go into detail. I
[12:01]mean, I know she's gone further than me, but she doesn't go into detail about it. Okay.
[12:12]Is there anything else you'd like to add to the statement? No. No. Okay. At this time,
[12:17]I'm going to go ahead and conclude the statement. The time on my watch is 1210.