[0:08]Okay.
[0:09]What is all I have to do is raise your right hand.
[0:13]You follow me, swear, tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth to help you guys.
[0:17]Yes.
[0:17]Okay.
[0:18]State your name for the record.
[0:22]How old are you?
[0:23]I'm 17.
[0:24]Okay.
[0:25]Are you currently in school?
[0:26]Yes.
[0:27]Okay.
[0:27]Where are you in school?
[0:34]30, except for one class.
[0:35]Okay.
[0:36]Okay.
[0:36]So you understand what I'm asking you and what we're discussing here, correct?
[0:42]Correct.
[0:43]Okay.
[0:46]You're 17 years old right now?
[0:47]Correct.
[0:47]Okay.
[0:49]What I want to do is, obviously you have some information pertaining to the case that I'm investigating,
[0:57]to a gentleman you may know as Jeff or Jeffrey.
[1:01]Correct.
[1:02]Okay.
[1:02]Okay.
[1:03]What I'd like you to do in your own words is tell me how you came in contact for the first time with Jeffrey.
[1:09]Okay.
[1:10]I used to be friends with pretty much all of them.
[1:14]And I started with them.
[1:17]And they came up to me, approached me one day and asked me if I was interested in giving him a massage to describe Jeffrey.
[1:25]And that's all I would have to do.
[1:26]And I would get $200 for giving him a massage.
[1:29]Okay.
[1:29]And I was like, sure.
[1:30]There's no strength of passion.
[1:31]But I was like, no.
[1:32]I was like, okay, sure.
[1:33]So she called me.
[1:36]And I guess there was the head of his big personal assistant that was with him.
[1:40]Okay.
[1:41]And she got us an appointment for me and her to go.
[1:44]And we went over to his house one day.
[1:46]And he brought me up to the room, set up a massage table, told me not to be worried about anything, should go with the lights, put on a little bit of music, set up the bed for me, and just told me to be comfortable and Jeffrey would come upstairs.
[2:01]So I waved in the room and Jeffrey came up into the room.
[2:05]He introduced himself to me.
[2:07]And he went out of the room and changed and put on a towel.
[2:13]And he laid on the bed.
[2:14]And he told me to put on this lotion.
[2:16]And I started to give him a massage.
[2:18]He told me to give him a massage from his back of his legs, his hamstrings, his lower back, his upper back, and like right underneath his dead area.
[2:28]So I started to give him a massage.
[2:30]And then he flipped over and he told me to do the front of his legs and his chest area and his upper shoulders.
[2:37]And he continued to do that.
[2:38]And then he asked me to get a little bit more comfortable.
[2:41]And I asked him what he meant.
[2:43]He said, maybe you want to take off your shirt or put on your pants.
[2:45]And I was already wearing my good clothes.
[2:46]And I was like, no, I'm comfortable.
[2:49]He was like, okay, that's fine.
[2:50]And then he started to move his hands down off the bed and started to touch me.
[2:55]He started to rub up on my legs and on my butt.
[2:58]And then he tried to go underneath my shirt and tried to touch my deep area.
[3:01]I was like, I'm not comfortable with that.
[3:03]And he was like, oh, come on.
[3:04]I'm like, no.
[3:04]I was like, I'll finish your massage, but that's it.
[3:06]And he would rub his nipples.
[3:08]He would be like, oh, yeah.
[3:09]He started rubbing his nipples.
[3:10]And then he started to jerk off.
[3:11]And that was when I ended up kissing him.
[3:13]And my God, he might never.
[3:17]Yeah, we both do four massages.
[3:19]So I can get this straight.
[3:20]Okay.
[3:21]You called a woman named?
[3:23]Right.
[3:23]That was the personal assistant to?
[3:26]Jeffrey.
[3:27]Jeffrey.
[3:28]Okay.
[3:30]You went to the room?
[3:31]Yes.
[3:32]And she set up the room for you?
[3:34]Correct.
[3:34]Okay.
[3:36]Jeff came into the room, introduced himself, went to another room and changed?
[3:41]Right.
[3:41]Because after his room was in his bedroom.
[3:43]Okay.
[3:44]And he left to go into his bedroom to chill.
[3:48]Okay.
[3:49]Okay.
[3:51]Okay.
[3:52]And he would never tell me his last name?
[3:52]No.
[3:52]He would never tell me his last name.
[3:54]He would never tell me what he did for a living.
[3:56]He would never give me any personal information except for his name is Jeffrey.
[3:59]Okay.
[4:03]He told you to get comfortable.
[4:05]Right.
[4:05]Okay.
[4:06]What were you wearing?
[4:06]I was wearing a crop, a tank top that comes a little bit above my navel.
[4:11]And I wore a bra and a pair of jeans.
[4:14]Tight jeans.
[4:15]He did not remove any clothing?
[4:23]No.
[4:24]Okay.
[4:26]As you were in the back of his chest and legs area, did he remove his towel?
[4:30]He started to move his towel lower.
[4:31]And he was like, okay, I'm going to go to the bathroom.
[4:32]He was like, okay, I'm going to go to the bathroom.
[4:32]He was like, okay, I'm going to go to the bathroom.
[4:32]And then the doctor would be...
[4:34]At a loss.
[4:35]At a second at a loss.
[4:42]At what point did he start to masturbate?
[4:49]After he started to rub his nipples and I was giving him a massage on his shoulders,
[4:53]he started to remove the towel completely.
[4:56]And that's when he started to masturbate, do whatever he was doing.
[4:59]Okay.
[5:00]Do you know what the meaning of masturbate is?
[5:02]Yeah.
[5:03]To evacuate.
[5:03]Okay.
[5:07]Yeah.
[5:11]Yeah.
[5:13]To evacuate.
[5:14]Yeah.
[5:15]At what point did he reach out to try to touch you?
[5:21]Well, he...
[5:22]Before he started to rub his nipples, he was like...
[5:25]He was like, let me touch you the way that I like to be touched.
[5:27]And I was like, I don't feel comfortable that way.
[5:29]I was like, no, I'm fine.
[5:31]Like, I'll continue giving him a massage that I don't want.
[5:33]And I'm very uncomfortable.
[5:34]Because his boss just told me if I felt uncomfortable, just towel him and he'd back off.
[5:38]So I told him that I was uncomfortable.
[5:40]Like, after he started to touch me.
[5:42]And he said to back me right after that.
[5:44]Okay.
[5:50]He touched your buttocks?
[5:51]Yeah.
[5:54]Did he touch your vagina area?
[5:56]I would not let him.
[5:58]Okay.
[5:58]No.
[5:59]And you mentioned your breast area.
[6:01]Right.
[6:05]Did he try to touch your buttocks under the shorts?
[6:09]At first, it was just outside my pants.
[6:12]And then he tried to...
[6:13]I had a belt on with my jeans.
[6:14]So he tried to go inside from behind.
[6:17]But he could not.
[6:18]And I was like, I'm not comfortable.
[6:20]Okay.
[6:23]He put his hands under your shirt?
[6:25]Right.
[6:28]And you had a bra on, correct?
[6:30]Correct.
[6:30]Okay.
[6:30]Did he go under the bra or over the bra?
[6:33]He didn't have enough time.
[6:34]I told him not to do that.
[6:35]I told him I was very uncomfortable.
[6:37]Okay.
[6:37]So you stopped him before he actually touched your breasts?
[6:39]Right.
[6:40]And he started to be in a mask base at that point?
[6:50]Okay.
[6:52]Did he ejaculate?
[6:55]Yeah.
[6:56]He didn't.
[6:57]He only went off his...
[6:59]He did everything.
[7:00]He finished?
[7:01]He finished, yeah.
[7:02]That was the first time you went?
[7:11]Yeah.
[7:11]How much did you receive?
[7:13]I received $200.
[7:15]Was that the only time you went?
[7:19]I've been there a total of three times.
[7:22]Okay.
[7:24]What happened?
[7:26]The second time I went there was...
[7:29]And we went downstairs.
[7:36]The chef made us dinner or lunch.
[7:38]It was mid-afternoon.
[7:39]We sat there and I guess Jeffrey went upstairs to do whatever they did.
[7:43]And we just waited downstairs with the chef.
[7:46]And he had supermodels there.
[7:47]We were talking to them.
[7:50]They showed us around the house.
[7:51]They showed us the cars.
[7:53]They showed us the pool area.
[7:54]We were just...
[7:55]Okay.
[7:56]So you weren't waiting for...
[8:02]You know, did he receive any money?
[8:04]He received money every time he brings someone there.
[8:07]That I know about that.
[8:08]He received money for the first time he went?
[8:12]Yeah.
[8:13]The second time he went, did you receive any money?
[8:16]No.
[8:20]Yeah.
[8:21]I was just there because I was with my best friend.
[8:27]And he felt more...
[8:28]He felt more comfortable because I was there.
[8:29]He didn't really know...
[8:30]Only acquaintances.
[8:32]Okay.
[8:35]What about the third time?
[8:37]The third time it was...
[8:39]Me?
[8:40]Yeah.
[8:54]Yeah.
[8:55]What happened there?
[8:59]Um...
[9:00]The work was...
[9:03]Asked me to find a way and I was like, sure.
[9:05]I told Michelle about it.
[9:06]So she went with us and...
[9:08]Went upstairs again.
[9:09]But this time Sarah was with her.
[9:11]And...
[9:12]She kept the guy up from the cell.
[9:14]And we went downstairs.
[9:16]We were just talking...
[9:18]We were just talking...
[9:19]We were just talking...
[9:20]In the other room with his pictures, magazines.
[9:23]Yeah, there was a whole bunch of new pictures all over the house.
[9:36]And the third time you went, you didn't do anything?
[9:38]No.
[9:39]I've only done it once.
[9:40]Okay.
[9:41]Did you receive any money for recruiting me?
[9:44]Yeah.
[9:44]I received $100.
[9:45]Yeah, you received $100.
[9:48]Um...
[9:48]Do you have any...
[9:51]I don't receive any more.
[9:54]Um...
[9:55]I could...
[9:55]I could get it.
[9:57]I want to get it.
[9:58]Will you marry me?
[9:59]Okay.
[9:59]Now...
[10:00]I'll find it.
[10:00]I'll take it.
[10:03]Um...
[10:03]The third time you went, you...
[10:05]You saw...
[10:05]Yes.
[10:13]Jeffrey doesn't allow anybody else inside the room besides you and that person.
[10:16]Okay.
[10:16]You and him.
[10:17]Okay.
[10:18]And you received $100 to...
[10:21]To bring him.
[10:46]And the second or third time, you never went upstairs?
[10:48]I never went upstairs.
[10:49]Okay.
[10:50]You just laid downstairs.
[10:51]And the first time that you went upstairs...
[10:53]Correct.
[10:54]Did he ever touch you?
[10:57]No.
[10:58]I mean, aside from...
[10:59]Oh, no.
[11:00]What you told me, did he ever touch you?
[11:01]Did he ever touch you in the dining area?
[11:02]No.
[11:03]The breast area?
[11:05]Aside from what you told me?
[11:06]No.
[11:07]He didn't go under the bra?
[11:08]No.
[11:09]Did he ever pull you in close to him?
[11:11]Yes.
[11:12]He never done that.
[11:13]He would wrap your arm around him.
[11:15]Like, he would wrap your arm from behind.
[11:17]He would pull you closer to the guy.
[11:19]Okay.
[11:20]He moved it to me.
[11:30]He is very...
[11:32]He's kind of different.
[11:33]Yeah.
[11:33]I mean, very...
[11:35]I would say he's...
[11:37]Boy.
[11:39]Jackie, what's that hurt him?
[11:40]Well, I've seen that.
[11:41]I know.
[11:42]We'll get...
[11:43]He's just a freaking pervert.
[11:50]Okay.
[11:50]I don't know what the hell he is.
[11:52]He's a weirdo.
[11:53]He has sisters of his family naked.
[11:54]He has children naked.
[11:56]Celebrities naked.
[11:58]Models naked.
[11:59]He always has girls there.
[12:01]Constantly.
[12:03]He's basically a sugar daddy.
[12:05]In my perspective, he looks like a sugar daddy.
[12:08]He has gray hair.
[12:09]He works out.
[12:11]So he thinks...
[12:12]He has a lot of physical conditions.
[12:13]He...
[12:14]He has hair on his chest.
[12:18]Hair on his back.
[12:20]He's probably about maybe six foot one.
[12:25]He has a raspy voice, sort of.
[12:28]He...
[12:28]He would never discuss what he does for a living.
[12:31]He's so different from what I...
[12:33]From Hoey and everybody else.
[12:35]Like, my friends had talked to me before.
[12:37]Some said that he's been a scientist.
[12:38]He's invented things.
[12:40]He's done stocks.
[12:42]He's like, he would never tell a straight story to where what he actually does.
[12:45]So, um, he keeps to himself.
[12:50]After he's done, he just dismisses you.
[12:52]He does whatever he does and then he's like, there's the money, please.
[12:55]Did he have the money out for you prior to or did he, when you were, when the massage was done?
[13:03]When the massage was done.
[13:04]He had the money out.
[13:05]Right.
[13:06]Okay.
[13:09]When he finished, did the towel de-clean himself or...?
[13:15]He got up.
[13:16]He got up.
[13:17]In the room, there's two showers.
[13:18]There's like a...
[13:19]A steam room.
[13:20]A steam room.
[13:21]And then there's a shower.
[13:22]So, as soon as he got, like, I think he was done, he got up and went into the steam,
[13:23]shower, things room.
[13:24]Okay.
[13:25]Do you know the difference between circumcised and not circumcised?
[13:26]Yes.
[13:27]He is circumcised.
[13:28]He is?
[13:33]Yeah.
[13:34]Yeah, he is.
[13:35]Okay.
[13:36]So, what is his definition?
[13:37]What is your definition?
[13:40]Um, whether the foreskin hasn't been cut off or whether it covers the actual head of the
[13:41]penis.
[13:42]Whether we are circumcised, the head is not circumcised.
[13:43]Okay.
[13:44]So, what is the definition?
[13:45]What is your definition?
[13:46]Whether the foreskin hasn't been cut off or whether it covers the actual head of the
[13:47]penis.
[13:48]Whether we are circumcised, the head is still and you don't have to pull back the skin
[13:49]in order to see the head.
[13:50]Okay.
[13:51]So, he is or he's not?
[13:52]He is circumcised.
[13:53]Um, at the conclusion of the massage, when he went to the other room, he grabbed the
[13:54]money.
[13:55]What happened after that?
[13:56]I grabbed the money and I left.
[13:57]I go, let's go.
[13:58]And they asked me what's wrong.
[13:59]I was like, nothing.
[14:00]I was like, let's just go.
[14:03]I don't want to talk about it.
[14:11]I felt really disgraced.
[14:12]I felt really dirty.
[14:13]I felt bad.
[14:14]I don't want to talk about it.
[14:15]I don't want to talk about it.
[14:16]Myself, I was a human.
[14:17]I was only 16 years old at the time.
[14:18]And I felt like, you know, the whole time I was there, I was like, I'm really nervous.
[14:19]I repeated that .
[14:20]I was like, don't worry.
[14:21]He's not going to do anything.
[14:22]There's no syringe attached.
[14:23]So, I was like, let's just get out of here.
[14:24]Let's go.
[14:25]You know what?
[14:26]Did he have to be your age?
[14:27]No.
[14:28]Did he?
[14:29]No.
[14:30]No.
[14:31]When was this?
[14:32]I don't know.
[14:33]I don't know.
[14:34]I don't know.
[14:35]I don't know.
[14:36]I don't know.
[14:37]I don't know.
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[14:41]I don't know.
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[14:44]I don't know.
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[14:50]I don't know.
[14:51]I don't know.
[14:52]I don't know.
[14:57]I was like, Halloween.
[14:58]Probably like around September, November, because my boyfriend and I were still together
[15:08]and he didn't know that.
[15:09]The strange thing, he ever explained to you on your way over there, what was expected
[15:29]from you?
[15:31]No, he never told me.
[15:35]He said, no.
[15:36]He said , I want to go back.
[15:36]He said that all I have to do is give him a massage, that he wouldn't do anything or move things.
[15:42]That's all I had to do, and I was received a letter for giving him a massage.
[15:45]Did she explain to you that you might have to get naked?
[15:47]No.
[15:48]Did she explain to you that you might have to remove some clothing?
[15:51]She told me that he would ask me to get comfortable.
[15:54]That's it.
[15:58]What did you think he meant when he said comfortable?
[16:03]I did think, you know, I would have to remove articles of clothing to stay comfortable with him.
[16:09]I'm like, if we, like, have a conversation, if he would suggest that I have a conversation with him,
[16:12]try to keep talking to him so I would say he's a nerd, that he would get to know me and, like, like me.
[16:17]Because I guess if he doesn't like me, he doesn't tell you.
[16:30]Did you ever use any sex toys?
[16:34]Do you have any sex toys?
[16:35]No.
[16:37]Have you had any contact with?
[16:53]Not since.
[16:57]I only talk to him once when I'm out in the park.
[17:08]I only talk to him once when I have a nice beer out.
[17:12]I talk to him about, like, downtown, like, he looks up.
[17:14]That's it.
[17:16]I've never, I've only met him once.
[17:18]I've never actually had a full-blown conversation with him.
[17:20]I only know about what he does, how he lives there, and how he's the personal assistant for him,
[17:26]and how he gets to call me or whoever else is, like, the main girl to get girls.
[17:39]Everything you've told him has been true and correct, as the best of you know.
[17:42]Correct.
[17:46]Just for the record, in the room, we're located at the president of the room with myself.
[17:55]F***.
[17:56]F*** me, please.
[17:57]Department, for the record, I can't find your last name.
[18:13]Is there anything else that you'd like to add to this?
[18:17]At this time, I'm going to go ahead and conclude this tape.
[18:20]The time by my watch is 2.35.