[0:09]Today's date is October 5th, 2005. The time on my watch is 11.50 a.m.
[0:21]I am present with...
[0:23]It's going to be very difficult for you to discuss this, but we are, like I said, aware of things that have occurred over there,
[0:39]inappropriate things that have occurred, but I do want to hear directly from you exactly what happened, okay?
[0:49]First of all, how old are you right now?
[0:52]18.
[0:52]You're 18. Can you raise your right hand for me?
[0:55]You saw him wear those shoes, the whole shoes, and nothing but the shoes to help you guys?
[0:58]Yeah.
[0:59]Okay.
[1:01]How old were you when you first went to Jeff's house?
[1:06]I was 17.
[1:07]You were 17. And you went there with home?
[1:14]Yeah.
[1:15]Okay.
[1:16]Did she tell you what you were required to do?
[1:23]She said,
[1:23]Okay.
[1:23]I had to get him in the car, and he said he would pay me, and she didn't stay home much, or what.
[1:29]She said that I didn't have to do anything with him.
[1:32]She said he might ask me to take off a piece of clothing if that was okay with me.
[1:37]She said if not, I didn't have to.
[1:39]Okay.
[1:40]So, when did you go?
[1:48]When?
[1:48]Yeah, when was this?
[1:49]I don't remember. It was a long time ago.
[1:52]Was it a year ago?
[1:53]It was a long time ago.
[1:54]More than a year? Less than a year?
[1:56]It had to be in November.
[1:57]Or December?
[1:58]Of last year.
[1:59]Yeah.
[2:00]Okay.
[2:02]I know it was after November.
[2:04]When you walked into the house?
[2:06]Yeah.
[2:08]Who did you encounter?
[2:09]I met Jeffrey.
[2:13]I know he was in the kitchen, but I didn't know him.
[2:21]I didn't know that time.
[2:27]I believe.
[2:34]Uh-huh.
[2:35]You wanted to pray, right?
[2:37]No.
[2:37]Okay.
[2:38]Okay.
[2:38]I know we had to pray.
[2:39]She was on a boat.
[2:41]I know.
[2:41]But, um, okay.
[2:44]So, what?
[2:45]I don't know.
[2:49]I don't need to know.
[2:50]Okay.
[2:50]I was up in my room.
[2:51]You were brought up to the room?
[2:52]Mm-hmm.
[2:53]By whom?
[2:54]Jeffrey.
[2:55]Jeffrey brought you up?
[2:56]Yeah.
[2:56]Um, the girl, I don't remember her name.
[3:03]I know there was a lady that was there.
[3:05]I guess I don't know if she worked for him or if she was living with him or what.
[3:09]She walked me up into the room and sent me on a bar table and everything.
[3:12]Okay.
[3:13]And then...
[3:14]You don't know the lady's name?
[3:15]No.
[3:17]So, Jeffrey didn't bring you up to the room.
[3:18]That was the lady that brought you up to the room?
[3:20]Yeah, Jeffrey didn't bring me up to the room.
[3:22]Okay.
[3:22]The lady brought up to the room.
[3:25]Can you describe her to me?
[3:27]I honestly do not remember what she looked like.
[3:29]You don't remember?
[3:29]Okay.
[3:30]It's been some time, so...
[3:32]All right.
[3:32]So, you went up to the room.
[3:33]What happened?
[3:34]Um, Jeffrey took a shower.
[3:36]He said to wait for him.
[3:37]And he took a shower.
[3:38]And then he came out.
[3:40]The shower was in the same room as the massage table.
[3:43]And he came out.
[3:45]And...
[3:45]Um...
[3:46]He gave me a lotion or whatever to massage his back.
[3:49]And he gave me a massage stick back in the back part of his thigh.
[3:53]Who did he dress?
[3:59]He was in a towel.
[4:01]Was the towel on the whole time?
[4:03]What happened next?
[4:11]Um...
[4:19]I remember him asking me to take off my shirt and my pants.
[4:26]I was comfortable.
[4:32]Hey, Mom.
[4:33]Hi.
[4:34]Hey, I want to call you right back.
[4:35]So, how did you take off your shirt and pants?
[4:45]Yeah.
[4:49]Later on, I might have taken off my ball.
[4:51]I don't remember.
[4:53]And I remember he had a...
[4:56]Some vibrating thing.
[4:57]I don't know what it was.
[4:58]It was like a vibrating type thing that he had.
[5:02]That he was rubbing on me.
[5:03]But that was it.
[5:06]Okay.
[5:06]He didn't touch me.
[5:08]He didn't...
[5:10]I was basically in for like 45 minutes, but I was there.
[5:15]Let me, um...
[5:19]Let me ask you some questions, yeah?
[5:20]Yeah.
[5:21]How did you remove your shirt and pants?
[5:22]Mm-hmm.
[5:23]You stayed in your undergarments?
[5:25]Mm-hmm.
[5:25]Okay.
[5:26]At some point, you possibly took off your bra?
[5:28]Possibly.
[5:29]Okay.
[5:29]Was he...
[5:30]Did he still have the towel on?
[5:31]Yeah.
[5:32]Did he ever...
[5:34]Oh, I remember the towel was on the entire time.
[5:36]Okay.
[5:37]Did he ever take off?
[5:38]I don't think so.
[5:43]No.
[5:43]Did he ever masturbate himself in front of you?
[5:50]I don't remember him doing it.
[5:52]He might have, but I really didn't remember.
[5:54]Okay.
[5:58]Describe.
[5:59]Yeah.
[6:01]How white man...
[6:03]Gray, hair, not fat, kind of heavy, but, um...
[6:12]That's who, I don't know, I met him once.
[6:14]Was he a hairy guy?
[6:15]Yeah.
[6:16]Yeah, he was?
[6:16]Mm-hmm.
[6:24]At what point did he take off his lab coat?
[6:28]Um, he took throughout a half hour.
[6:32]Half hour, half hour.
[6:34]Wait.
[6:37]I mean, he was giving him a massage, and then he fell in love, and he got back.
[6:40]And then he was laid back down.
[6:43]And he started touching me.
[6:44]And he was laid back down.
[6:45]Okay.
[6:46]Was he on his back on his stomach when he was doing that?
[6:51]Um...
[6:51]His stomach on his back?
[6:54]I don't remember.
[6:55]You don't remember?
[6:55]I don't remember.
[6:56]Do you remember what the vibrator looked like?
[7:00]It was just white.
[7:02]Just white?
[7:03]No, it was just a vibrator.
[7:13]Did you have your panties on at the time?
[7:19]No.
[7:19]Okay.
[7:20]Um, did he do it over the panties, or...?
[7:23]Yeah.
[7:25]I don't remember, yeah.
[7:26]Did he ever, um...
[7:31]Did he ever use his hands to touch you?
[7:34]No.
[7:34]Ever touch your breath?
[7:37]No.
[7:38]No vagina ever?
[7:39]He said he used his vibrator, but he's not actually...
[7:46]Where did he use it?
[7:47]Where did he touch you?
[7:48]On my lower arm.
[7:49]Your lower arm?
[7:50]Below your waist?
[7:57]I mean, below your...
[7:57]But it didn't insert me.
[7:58]It didn't do this breath that I can't do it.
[8:04]Um, a few seconds, not long.
[8:07]It wasn't long.
[8:08]Okay.
[8:08]Did you tell him you didn't like that, or...?
[8:10]No.
[8:11]I wouldn't...
[8:12]I wouldn't tell him no.
[8:14]I wouldn't tell him no.
[8:14]I wouldn't tell him no.
[8:15]I wouldn't tell him no.
[8:15]I wouldn't tell him that I wasn't comfortable.
[8:18]I wasn't comfortable, but I didn't tell him no.
[8:21]And, like I said, I needed the money that he was giving me.
[8:26]Did you guys discuss anything?
[8:29]Mm-mm.
[8:30]Did he ask you your age?
[8:32]Yeah, I told him I was 18.
[8:34]He wants you to come back?
[8:44]He said he would come if I came back sometime, but I never went back.
[8:48]You never went back?
[8:48]You only went one time?
[8:49]I have no idea.
[8:56]Were they waiting for you downstairs, or...?
[8:58]They said...
[8:58]They said that he had a gem in his house or something, and they said that they would be there or wherever,
[9:03]but I cannot know if I'm staying in the kitchen.
[9:09]I haven't talked to anyone.
[9:11]I haven't talked to the nurse.
[9:19]I can't remember if it was $300 or $400.
[9:29]Do you know how much money the physician brought you over?
[9:32]I was supposed to get some money, but I couldn't.
[9:36]If he gave her money on the side, I have no idea.
[9:39]Okay.
[9:40]I haven't talked to her since that.
[9:44]How old are you now? You're 18, right?
[9:46]I'm 18.
[9:47]You going to school?
[9:48]I finished.
[9:49]You finished your high school?
[9:50]Mm-hmm.
[9:50]What school did you go to?
[9:54]Do you have your eyes for diploma?
[9:56]Mm-hmm.
[9:56]Okay.
[9:58]You understand all these questions I'm asking, right?
[10:00]Mm-hmm.
[10:01]Okay.
[10:02]Like I said, I know some of this stuff is hard to talk about, but it's important because
[10:06]basically you've potential victim here.
[10:16]Okay.
[10:17]What kind of panty did you have?
[10:24]Was it a found underwear or a regular panty?
[10:27]A found underwear.
[10:28]Was it a found underwear?
[10:31]Did he ever tell you to wear anything specific?
[10:34]Um, no.
[10:39]Actually, I ended up just wearing jeans and a shirt over there.
[10:43]Anyway, I wasn't dressed in any certain way.
[10:46]Okay.
[10:48]Did she explain to you that you may have to adopt it for a reason?
[10:51]She said I may have to.
[10:53]She said if I didn't want to, that I didn't have to.
[10:55]Did he ever ask you to touch him?
[10:57]No.
[11:00]But that's why I was surprised about that, because he never asked, but...
[11:04]Did he ever tell you that, right?
[11:12]Did you ever see him in his naked?
[11:16]Um, I wasn't paying attention.
[11:18]He got in the shower in front of me, but I wasn't paying attention.
[11:21]So you could see, the shower, you could see from the room?
[11:24]Barely.
[11:25]There's the shower, and then he had, like, a bath.
[11:29]If you come up into his bedroom, I don't even remember.
[11:31]But if you come into his room, there's a shower.
[11:34]If you come into the bathroom part, there's a shower right here.
[11:37]And he had a massage table right here.
[11:40]And then there was a couch going around right here.
[11:44]And the shower, he had just walked over to me and said,
[11:47]I'm going to take a shower.
[11:48]And I don't know, it was like, it was a bit comfortable, and I was like, okay.
[11:53]I don't remember if he asked me to take off my clothes,
[11:58]my top and my bottoms, but I think he said I'm not sure.
[12:03]I have bad memories of it, and it was a long time ago.
[12:06]Okay.
[12:08]So, you wanted to...
[12:09]Look, he wouldn't make it in front of you.
[12:12]He just made a choice not to look.
[12:13]Right.
[12:20]I mean, the shower was right there, it was, like, open, but...
[12:24]You were massaging him.
[12:29]Did he ever touch you while you were massaging him?
[12:31]Not that I recall, no.
[12:36]Over and try to touch you?
[12:38]Not that I recall.
[12:39]When I was massaging him, he was running, and I heard a start.
[12:47]And at one point, he had asked me to get up on top of him,
[12:51]and he was running on his stomach.
[12:53]He was running down on his stomach, and I sat on top of him
[12:57]and gave him a massage, but that was the only main encounter I gave.
[13:02]How did he approach you with the vibrator?
[13:09]I remember him getting up and getting it off of the chest that he had,
[13:13]and then he had just touched me with it,
[13:15]and after that, he had put it down, and I kept massaging him.
[13:20]You didn't like that, or was that your best area?
[13:42]Yeah, I did.
[13:43]I forgot.
[13:45]Yes, I did.
[13:52]I thought it was still in my other part.
[13:54]I tried to touch him in the back part of his leg.
[13:57]Okay, and did you ever say it was when you were doing the test,
[14:01]was that when he tried to use the vibrator?
[14:08]I don't credit them, but I don't want to tell you any wrong information, but...
[14:13]Okay, that's fine.
[14:14]That's fine.
[14:15]You have not had any contact?
[14:17]The only thing I know is that I guess she's working on fees now.
[14:23]Did you ever leave your phone number for him to call you?
[14:26]No, he never had my number, and I never had his number.
[14:29]Okay.
[14:31]That's real bad, and you never gave a s*** in mine.
[14:43]Mm-mm.
[14:53]Were you afraid when you were in there?
[14:56]I wasn't.
[14:59]I guess I should have been if I was in a room with a stranger, but...
[15:03]I wasn't afraid, but I wasn't very comfortable.
[15:07]Were you afraid to say no to anything?
[15:11]No, I couldn't say no, but...
[15:14]I thought I was in debt.
[15:18]I was in a lot of debt, and I needed that money, and he told me about it, and I was like, okay.
[15:23]You know, one time, and then after that, I was like, wow, I don't even know how many of these girls do that.
[15:38]He never penetrated you?
[15:41]Never touched you?
[15:42]No, that's fine.
[15:43]That's fine, because the vibrator, he never touched you, he never penetrated you?
[15:47]Mm-mm.
[15:48]He never pulled you towards him?
[15:51]No, that I recall.
[15:53]Okay.
[15:54]That's a good statement.
[16:01]Do you have anything else?
[16:02]I'm not coming up.
[16:12]Come on.
[16:13]All right, this time I'm going to go ahead and conclude the statement.
[16:15]The time on my watch is 12.50.