[0:03]Point number two, continuing now, but my time is approximately 2.54, yes.
[0:14]You described him just with a freckle, and he was going gray, and what else?
[0:23]Um, like, he's like, his skin color is like, when I saw him, it was like, when you have a sunburn,
[0:32]but it's like, when you have it for a couple days, and it's kind of turning into, it's like a reddish kind of color.
[0:38]Um, he has like a long face, and what's that? I can't remember.
[0:43]And he's wearing a white t-shirt, and he's like, you know, okay, I don't really remember.
[0:47]Did he have any kind of like jewelry that he left on his body that you noticed?
[0:50]I don't, I don't remember.
[0:52]Do you remember what color eyes he had?
[0:55]Nice, do you have any facial hair, like a mustache, or a goatee, or anything?
[0:59]Hmm, no, but it's, I don't really,
[1:02]it's like, it's like, every day, every night.
[1:05]Okay.
[1:06]Um, did he ever ask you to do anything other than massaging him?
[1:09]No.
[1:10]Are you sure?
[1:10]Yeah.
[1:11]Did he try to, did he, at any time, like, grab your hand to try to put it somewhere?
[1:16]No, no, no, no, I'm not forgetting that, no massaging or anything like that.
[1:20]You said that you straddled him.
[1:21]Mm-hmm.
[1:22]What do you mean by that?
[1:23]Well, I mean, on his stomach, and I was doing massage, like, I was, you know, like,
[1:29]on the, on like a bed, and then like,
[1:32]I was
[1:32]sitting there on his butt, but a little bit above his butt.
[1:35]And I was, I was butt naked, and you was butt naked.
[1:38]Okay.
[1:38]My butt was, my butt was on the top of his butt, on the real, real butt.
[1:42]Now, when you say you were butt naked.
[1:44]And then with underwear and a bra.
[1:47]Okay.
[1:48]Now, did he ask you to sit on top of him?
[1:51]Mm-hmm.
[1:51]Or did you do that on your own?
[1:52]No, he was like, because I was, first, I was, I was, you know, standing up, and he
[1:57]was like, it feels more comfortable if you go on the back, because you can see that,
[1:59]and then I'll do that.
[2:00]Like, I just sat there.
[2:01]Um, like, I wasn't, at first, I didn't really want to sit on the, on his
[2:06]whole, you know, butt.
[2:08]So, I kind of like, like, you know, like, pushing my legs on the table, so that I could
[2:12]kind of sit up, and he was like, please, um, please, you can just put out, like, sit on
[2:16]me, you know, put out your body.
[2:18]Um, and then I, like, I was just, like, kind of, like, sitting, like, doing it.
[2:21]I didn't, like, when I was actually sitting on him, I didn't really, like, I liked, and
[2:25]then, like, I got really sad, and as I was going down the back of his butt, I kind of,
[2:28]like, popped up again.
[2:29]Mm-hmm.
[2:29]Because he was still in good shape.
[2:30]That's awesome.
[2:31]Um, he never tried to touch me.
[2:37]Besides, like, you know, like, when, well, what do you mean, like, when he was, like,
[2:42]close to you or something, you know, just because he tried to touch you?
[2:44]He put his hand on my back, and he was, like, walking off.
[2:47]It lasted a minute.
[2:49]Like, he just, like, he keeps, he keeps, like, motioning, like, snapping.
[2:54]No, like, like, um, like, when you're leaning on something, like, putting your face on
[2:59]it, he's, like, going like that, like, couldn't, not, you know, like.
[3:03]Can you, can you tell me, what do you mean?
[3:05]Okay, like, who's, like, I'm on, let's say I'm on my back.
[3:08]Where would you be, on, on, yes, where would you be?
[3:10]On my back here, like, if I was, like, in his, in his back, I would extend my, like,
[3:14]right here.
[3:14]Okay.
[3:15]Okay, and then I would point my feet back and I would point my left.
[3:17]You'd say this way?
[3:18]Yeah.
[3:18]Okay, I'm going to my left.
[3:20]Yeah, I'll go around to your, to your back on the tube.
[3:23]Okay, yeah.
[3:23]I'm facing you.
[3:24]And then, like, your, like, your face is a little bit that way, and you're, like,
[3:28]leaning towards, like, on a V.
[3:30]Okay, I'm hunched over a little bit.
[3:31]I'm over here, and I'm still leaning if I'm going to be, like, one of your hands,
[3:36]this hand would be on me, and the other hand would be.
[3:39]Okay, my left hand would be, so is my left hand around your, like, your shoulder?
[3:43]No, no, I'm going like that.
[3:44]Okay, so I'm holding you, like, around by the waist.
[3:46]Mm-hmm.
[3:47]Okay.
[3:47]And that hand was on his.
[3:49]His right hand.
[3:49]Yeah.
[3:50]Okay.
[3:52]It just gives me a better picture, trying to understand what's going on, and I appreciate
[3:56]you doing that.
[3:57]I don't need to make you feel uncomfortable.
[3:59]Do you feel uncomfortable?
[4:00]No.
[4:00]Okay.
[4:01]Um.
[4:03]After everything you've done, okay, did you watch GIFs yet?
[4:07]No, because I was sitting just right here, out there, getting the GIFs out.
[4:12]I definitely didn't, because that's the only thing that came back to me.
[4:15]You stay in power.
[4:18]In the room at all, do you take, and I don't know if there is or not, but do you think
[4:24]that there's anything in there, like, that may have recorded what you did, like a video
[4:28]camera?
[4:28]Oh, my gosh, I didn't think about that.
[4:30]There are lots of places that could have done one, because they.
[4:35]The reason why I ask is because he walked out once, and then came back in, right?
[4:43]Yeah.
[4:44]So it could be just that he could walk off.
[4:46]I'm just curious.
[4:47]I don't know if there is or not.
[4:48]I don't know if there was, I do not know about it.
[4:51]Okay.
[4:52]So, you get dressed, you go downstairs.
[4:56]Where is that woman again?
[4:58]Downstairs, talking to Hillary on the other side.
[5:00]Okay.
[5:00]Did I not come to see her?
[5:02]At any time, did you speak to her, and were there?
[5:06]Did you ask her to know how old you are, did you know how old you were?
[5:09]Okay, yeah, and I was asked, Hillary told me to say I was 18, because, Hillary said,
[5:15]told me 18, because if you're not, then he won't let you in his house.
[5:18]So I said I was 18, and I was telling myself, she said, how old are you, and then I was
[5:23]18, but I kind of got away with that, because, you know, I didn't want to make a sound like
[5:27]I was lying or anything.
[5:29]So what other things did you ask her?
[5:30]Um, how I'm okay with you, what school I don't go to.
[5:34]Did you tell him what school you went to?
[5:35]Yeah, but I.
[5:36]Yeah, he's like, what grade are you in?
[5:40]Because I told him I was in 12th grade, so.
[5:42]Okay.
[5:43]He said I told him I was 18, so how did he know?
[5:45]Did he tell him you were 12th grade?
[5:46]Yeah.
[5:46]Are you sure?
[5:47]Uh-huh.
[5:47]Okay.
[5:48]What else did you talk about?
[5:49]Um, talked about it, and he kind of asked me, like, how old is Hillary, it's really
[5:53]nice to meet, and then he told me how few do Hillary, and he said, um, because I kind
[5:59]of, I'm not talking to Hillary, so I brought up the conversation, he said, we're going
[6:02]to Hillary because Hillary, she's been working with me for a long time.
[6:06]And then, like, I kind of, you know, he kind of got sick of it, working for you, and how
[6:10]very I'm seeing her getting him back inside, so I kind of.
[6:13]So he never said that, he just said she worked for him.
[6:17]Yeah, but, so, and, so, on my way back home, that, like, that doesn't make any sense if
[6:22]she didn't do that, because why would Hillary be doing food, it's almost around the same
[6:26]money as me.
[6:27]Right.
[6:28]Why did she tell you all that though?
[6:30]I don't know, because that's the difference, because you didn't, as far as I know, but
[6:34]I don't know, but.
[6:35]Pretty sure she didn't tell me she was doing anything.
[6:37]She was just downstairs having a conversation, and I think, um, that when I went up there
[6:42]with the ladies, she, she paid her, because, like, you know, like a month, you know, so,
[6:48]she probably paid her when I went upstairs, and when I went downstairs, she was still
[6:54]talking to the ladies still, and, um, she goes, oh, when you were in the kitchen room,
[6:58]you said the old man to come to the house still, she says, oh, your stuff is so hot,
[7:03]she works here.
[7:03]I don't know, she's like.
[7:05]I know that, you know, so, and then, you and the other girls laughing, because we
[7:11]saw this deaf come in, and he was always there, and he was like, you know, so.
[7:14]So, Hillary likes going to the house.
[7:16]She was like, yeah, so, that's that.
[7:18]So, you left, and that was the last time you came in?
[7:22]Uh-huh.
[7:22]And that's the last time I went in.
[7:24]Has Jeff ever tried to call you?
[7:25]Nope.
[7:26]Did you leave a phone number?
[7:28]Yeah.
[7:29]Actually, I did.
[7:29]Um, because, you know, we didn't see those, um, three of your friends were at, three
[7:34]of your people, so.
[7:35]So, I didn't, I just gave them my, my cell phone number.
[7:40]I didn't give them a house number, I didn't give them a house number, but, yeah.
[7:43]And how long ago was it?
[7:45]Oh, my God.
[7:46]I couldn't tell you the date, but, let me see, it was about, oh, my God, a month and
[7:57]a half ago.
[7:58]Okay.
[7:59]I don't really know that much right now.
[8:04]Either the day you gave them the phone number, or the end of January.
[8:08]I couldn't tell you.
[8:09]I don't know.
[8:10]How long after did you get into that fight with Jeff?
[8:13]Um, like, a week.
[8:16]Okay.
[8:16]Yeah.
[8:17]You got into a fight with Jeff on the 9th.
[8:19]Okay.
[8:20]So, yeah, it was about a week after, or before.
[8:22]Okay.
[8:24]And, who else besides Jeff did you tell what happened?
[8:29]Besides Jeff?
[8:29]That's it.
[8:31]Okay.
[8:31]Nobody else.
[8:32]You can tell me if there was anybody else that you know of.
[8:36]No, but, um, she wanted me to bring my sister.
[8:40]She wanted me to bring my sister.
[8:42]Okay.
[8:43]And, um, when I was in that room, there was a, um, there was a shelf of pictures, and
[8:52]he had, uh, so many pictures of, of, there was about 16, 17, around that year, 15, 18,
[8:59]and they were armed with a gun, and, um, most of, all the guys were poppers, or just totally
[9:04]naked, and they were, like, different things, or they were just standing up.
[9:07]Okay.
[9:08]Oh, no, you cannot do that.
[9:09]Okay.
[9:10]No.
[9:12]Well, I have to ask you, do you know the difference between, and, and your grandmother,
[9:18]so I'm asking you, you're, you're, you're pretty mature for your age, okay?
[9:22]Mm-hmm.
[9:23]Do you know the difference between a lie and a lie?
[9:25]Yes.
[9:26]Do you know the difference between a truth and a lie?
[9:28]Yes.
[9:28]Can you tell me what a lie would be?
[9:30]Um, well, if I'm with you.
[9:33]Okay.
[9:33]So, you, if I tell you you're wearing a blue sweater right now.
[9:36]I have to tell you you're lying?
[9:37]Yeah.
[9:38]Because I'm wearing a pink one?
[9:39]You got it.
[9:40]Can you tell me what a lie would be?
[9:41]Yes.
[9:42]Are you lying about anything?
[9:44]No.
[9:44]I swear in the Bible.
[9:45]Okay.
[9:46]I swear in the God that's sitting next to me.
[9:48]I swear in the God.
[9:48]Okay.
[9:49]Is there anything else that you'd like to talk to me about?
[9:51]No, because there's that, that's all, nothing else really sticks with me.
[9:57]Okay.
[9:58]So that day you did not have any kind of sex with him?
[10:01]I hope not.
[10:02]I will, yeah, my mother's going to have sex with somebody.
[10:05]Yes.
[10:06]Okay.
[10:06]I know it's going to have sex with somebody.
[10:08]Okay.
[10:09]Um.
[10:09]You at no time touched his penis?
[10:12]At no time did I touch his penis.
[10:14]At any time did he touch you?
[10:16]At no time did I touch you.
[10:17]I think he touched that.
[10:18]At no time did he touch that.
[10:20]And just so I can be sure, you saw him laughing off once?
[10:24]I see, yes.
[10:25]Saw him.
[10:26]Okay.
[10:28]And as far as you think.
[10:30]I think, I know, well, I think they'll know that the same noises were being made when
[10:36]he was kissing the other time.
[10:37]And that's it.
[10:39]Okay.
[10:40]I thank you very much for listening to this time-lapse.
[10:43]My watch is approximately 3.05.