EFTA02731895

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[0:10]We were just about to get spotted with the escalator.
[0:22]Tell me how it happened.
[0:26]He would just try things on occasion.
[0:30]And if I let him do it, then he would, at the end, put in more money.
[0:34]Without even like, it was kind of an unspoken thing.
[0:37]If it happened and I let it happen, I'd get paid more.
[0:40]If it didn't happen, then obviously it was the same.
[0:45]But on a few occasions, I told you that I did say no, and I let it be.
[0:50]I stayed fast on my word, and he still gave me extra money on that one.
[0:55]But then there were a couple times that I said no, he talked me into it, and then he would give me more money.
[0:59]He always paid me more money, even if I didn't do what he asked me to do after that.
[1:06]Okay. So walk me through this, and I know this is going to be hard for you.
[1:12]Walk me through this here.
[1:14]You're giving him a massage.
[1:16]You're naked.
[1:18]Right?
[1:19]Mm-hmm.
[1:23]Take it from there.
[1:25]He'd ask me to, like, most of the time, I'd go up the floor and back, and I was like,
[1:30]ummm.
[1:31]Up the floor, no.
[4:55]I mean, I remember...
[5:18]Too active.
[13:15]My parents kicked me out, and so they weren't, they weren't going to...
[13:20]Then I continued to work with the original thing.
[18:32]I apologize.
[18:33]Oh, sure.
[18:43]We helped with that.
[18:47]Just let me know.
[19:40]He's on the phone coming up.
[19:43]I remember, like, if she wanted to call me, she could call me.
[19:45]Um, and like, I really, like, I'm not telling you guys what to do, but if you could contact
[20:02]her, get out of her to stop talking to him, like...
[20:05]Why is she in deep?
[20:09]What do you mean?
[20:10]Because of him.
[20:12]Like, that's not what, that's not what it was supposed to be.
[20:13]It was supposed to be giving him a massage naked, not, not having sex with him already.
[20:14]Like, that's something else.
[20:15]How old was she when she started?
[20:16]Oh, after she was 18.
[20:17]Okay.
[20:18]Yeah.
[20:19]She's, like, a year older than me, and she started recently, within the past, like,
[20:20]through the new year.
[20:21]I don't remember.
[20:22]Are there drugs ever involved?
[20:23]No.
[20:24]He's very, he's very, um...
[20:25]Okay.
[20:26]Very healthy.
[20:27]Yeah.
[20:28]Yeah.
[20:31]Yeah.
[20:32]Yeah.
[20:33]Yeah.
[20:34]Yeah.
[20:35]Yeah.
[20:36]Yeah.
[20:37]Yeah.
[20:38]Very healthy.
[20:39]Yes.
[20:40]Very fit.
[20:41]He jogs every day on the beach.
[20:42]He does yoga, all that stuff.
[20:43]He has a gym in his house.
[20:44]Um, never has drank, he's never, um, taken a drink of alcohol, ever.
[20:48]Not once in his life.
[20:50]At least look what he says, I don't really know.
[20:52]And he's never tried any drugs, never smoked a cigarette, never nothing.
[20:57]How about pornography?
[21:02]Any money?
[21:03]What type of pornography?
[21:04]Any type.
[21:05]Any type?
[21:06]Typically, children, young women, teenagers.
[21:07]I don't know if he's his, oh, he's, he's got lots of naked pictures that he can get
[21:10]people to against.
[21:11]Really?
[21:12]Like the real photographs that he took, not...
[21:14]Like you said there was one of you?
[21:16]He had pictures of me.
[21:17]Naked?
[21:18]That was...
[21:19]And you were 16?
[21:20]Yeah, like how else can I explain it?
[21:21]I was naked.
[21:22]I had no clothes on.
[21:23]And he would just say, let me take pictures of you?
[21:24]He goes...
[21:25]I don't even know what he said.
[21:28]I don't want to say something because it might be wrong, but he just, I guess, asked me
[21:32]to take pictures and that's how it went.
[21:34]And I said...
[21:35]Was it just like...
[21:36]Hey!
[21:37]Just like a funnery doing stuff?
[21:39]Yeah.
[21:40]I was just like...
[21:41]It was me standing in front of a big white marble bathtub in the...
[21:46]He has his own bathroom and then the girl that sleep over, he has a second bathroom
[21:52]for guests or whatever the hell you want to call them.
[21:56]And it was in the guest bathroom in his master suite.
[21:59]And it wasn't like I was, you know, spreading my legs or anything for the camera.
[22:04]I was like...
[22:05]I was standing up.
[22:06]I think I was standing up and I just like...
[22:07]It was me kind of like looking over my shoulder.
[22:08]I was like...
[22:09]I'm just smiling and...
[22:10]I just had a little bit of a smile.
[22:11]I'm like a little bit older, kind of smiling.
[22:12]And that was that.
[22:13]And now he has that up on his wall or something?
[22:18]No, he's got others...
[22:19]He has others.
[22:20]No, I look like I'm
[22:26]he's got others.
[22:27]He has others...
[22:28]I'm sorry.
[22:29]Sorry.
[22:30]No, I was like, I'm being famous.
[22:31]He has, you go in his bathroom.
[22:33]I mean, I don't know, like he has naked photos of other teenage girls, like around
[22:35]house.
[22:36]One thing that really bothered me, though, he has a picture of his Goddaughter.
[22:38]like with no like panties on throws me out like it's a picture of her like she's mooning him
[22:48]and i don't know if you could i wouldn't put a picture like that in my house honestly like that
[22:52]that causes a little it raises a few questions like it can it's questionable if it can be
[22:58]considered pornography child pornography but i wouldn't put a picture of a little girl with her
[23:03]scope pulled up on my wall like no you know if he ever videotaped any of these um no not with me
[23:14]there i was just thinking i don't remember anything like that he has videotaped with me and
[23:19]i'm i don't know he might you might have videotaped he's got both abs he could ruin my
[23:25]life if he wanted to but not that you're aware of it's not that i'm aware of now you want her
[23:43]phone number if you haven't yeah i gotta i know it actually oh wait no i don't i want to make sure
[23:48]i want i really like i really care about her and i didn't even take her to this i mentioned it and
[23:56]she goes oh yeah i already heard from it about it from somebody else like i was i wasn't mentioning
[24:00]it like do you want to do it i was mentioning it like oh i have to go she was my friend she
[24:05]knew what i did i was like oh i gotta go to jeffrey's today she knew what that meant
[24:08]and she goes oh would you mind if i went there and i was like whatever how did like why do you
[24:14]want to do it she's like oh i was talking to somebody figured i'd do it her number is
[24:19]so there's a picture of you in the house it's when you were 16. or 17. definitely not no not
[24:38]there wasn't much activity between us since i turned 18. i mean i remember just that everything
[24:44]like i remember down to the like the letter what happened since the new year like nothing major
[24:50]nothing like heavy happened i mean by heavy you mean well i mean like he laid off with like
[24:59]going down on me
[25:01]i went there to call you when i get home okay okay bye-bye
[25:24]after the new year's oh yeah after the new year after the near not that he wouldn't but like he
[25:29]just didn't like i didn't get like nothing significant happened with he didn't like
[25:40]really mildly do you know you turned 18 at that point he was dumping for joy when you turned 18.
[25:47]so there's no doubt in your mind
[25:49]oh my christmas
[25:51]i mean not my christmas but my birthday gift for being 18 was a plane ticket to new york city
[25:55]like i left at 4 30 in the morning on my 18th birthday to go to new york to be with him and
[26:04]i mean he didn't tell me he i didn't know he had a chauffeur pick me up from the airport um the
[26:11]bulletproof black mercedes i remember that specifically i got pictures of that too
[26:16]if you all want some pictures
[26:18]but um
[26:19]I didn't know that he wasn't going to be there
[26:24]until after the chauffeur picked me up
[26:25]and said Jeffrey's on the phone for you
[26:27]and he handed me a phone
[26:28]and then I spoke to Jeffrey
[26:29]and he was like I'm not going to be able to be there
[26:31]but I set all this stuff up for you
[26:32]you're going to have a great time
[26:33]that was that
[26:37]I got somebody to stay with
[26:39]was he ever into the S&M type of thing?
[26:44]I don't even know if that is
[26:45]are you talking about whips and panes and stuff?
[26:48]like the tying up
[26:48]I don't know what you'd call a strap-on
[26:54]I don't know what you'd call that
[26:56]he never
[26:58]all these toys you're mentioning
[27:02]he penetrated you with these?
[27:05]with the strap-on
[27:09]but these other toys?
[27:11]he himself penetrated me with these items
[27:14]and you were done again before you were 18?
[27:16]I swear to that
[27:18]done the same
[27:22]with the strap-on
[27:24]she's penetrated you
[27:25]yeah she's done that with other stuff too
[27:27]she's gone down
[27:30]he's asked me to go down on her
[27:33]and when I say no
[27:34]he crosses $200 in front of me
[27:36]says do it for 5 minutes
[27:38]and you get this
[27:38]and I say I'll do it for 5 minutes
[27:40]it's disgusting what I did for money
[27:44]but that was once again your way
[27:48]before you were 18
[27:48]yeah
[27:49]how many times did you say that that happened?
[27:55]and him
[27:55]and him
[27:57]as little as like
[28:02]times or as much as like
[28:05]his wife
[28:08]his wife
[28:21]his kids
[28:22]and he's got some people right now
[28:24]yeah so
[28:25]I
[28:26]I don't know
[28:27]do you know
[28:27]do you think we're gonna be here for like another hour
[28:30]or whatever
[28:31]no
[28:32]we're gonna be done pretty soon
[28:33]ok we'll wait
[28:34]he said we're gonna be done pretty soon
[28:37]so
[28:38]I don't know
[28:38]would you just wait at home for me
[28:40]cause I'm not having a great day
[28:44]ok I love you
[28:46]bye
[28:49]he said he didn't know
[28:50]you mentioned
[28:51]you didn't tell him you were talking to him
[28:52]I didn't tell him that you guys were investigating like
[28:55]oh Jeffrey and stuff like that
[28:55]and stuff god no i said i had to talk to some people about a few things like and that was that
[29:00]okay no problem i mean you said your photographs what kind of adjusted that new york trip
[29:18]you have any photographs from inside the house or anything like that
[29:32]i mean i might i could look at my house i kind of figured he didn't want me to take
[29:49]him photographs in his house either so i really don't think i did that i got i mean i just got
[29:54]pictures of like his car and um like his sofa and stuff like that's it that you were involved
[30:34]i mean like if you tell me last name i could probably tell you who she is
[31:01]you say that is
[31:27]i think
[31:27]adriana right the impression that that she told me that she came from the society when she was
[31:47]like 15 with jeffrey so like i don't understand what the hell is going on you know that girl
[32:02]i don't have anything further do you did you show the picture
[32:15]i did you spoke to him on the phone with what six weeks ago or even longer than that
[32:28]did they leave you any messages recently no one ever contacted you right now
[32:35]i think i even deleted the emails if my boyfriend found those emails
[32:39]just shoot me i get kicked out of the house like so i'm pretty sure they're gone
[32:43]his and whatever yeah i don't know who i have no idea i didn't bother to ask it was
[32:55]none of my business okay well i don't have anything further um would you like to add
[33:06]anything else for the statement what do you want to see happen jeffrey
[33:14]um no that's not what i asked you
[33:17]what do you think should happen to jeffrey for what he did to you i don't even care if
[33:28]he goes to jail i just don't want this to happen to anybody else whatever that means to you guys
[33:34]and that's what we're trying to stop here yeah that means a lot
[33:39]i'm gonna go ahead and conclude this statement if i'm on my watch it's 5 40 p.m