EFTA00221042

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[0:00]Described the car as a blue Dodge Neon four-door.
[0:04]She explained the whole car to him.
[0:07]Additionally, there was another notation of to take a bucket of roses at 9 p.m.
[0:13]to ****** High School for ****** and give the flowers to ****** after her stage performance
[0:20]as she was in a drama club and had a performance that night.
[0:24]Okay. And do you know when that was?
[0:26]Um, it was while ****** was still in ****** High School.
[0:32]Um, it was during his employ prior to, um, Janus.
[0:42]Okay. Do you know if that was when ****** was 16 or when she was 17 or if she was 18?
[0:46]I believe she was 17.
[0:47]Okay. Did you, any of these girls we've talked about, any of them a licensed massage therapist?
[0:58]No. No formal training in any massages.
[1:02]Did you ever speak to licensed massage therapists that provided services to Jeffrey Epstein?
[1:09]Through the trash bowls, we did locate, uh, two girls that were, uh, licensed masseuses, um, that I interviewed.
[1:18]Who were they?
[1:19]Uh, one was ****** and the other one was ******.
[1:24]Uh, ******.
[1:25]Okay. Did you talk to ******?
[1:29]Yes, I did.
[1:29]What did she tell you?
[1:31]Um, she had been going to ******.
[1:33]She had been going to Epstein's house for quite some time.
[1:36]However, uh, she was not a masseuse at that time when she first started going to his house.
[1:41]He also provided her a vehicle to get to his house because her scooter had broken down.
[1:48]Um, she was a...
[1:51]She started going to his house in a similar capacity as these other girls?
[1:55]That is correct.
[1:56]Okay. But she later became a massage therapist?
[1:58]Yes.
[1:59]What kind of relationship did ****** have with ******?
[2:03]And Jeffrey Epstein have?
[2:04]She stated that it was a consensual sexual, um, uh, encounters that they've had.
[2:12]How old was she at the time?
[2:14]Uh, over 18 at that time. I think she was 18.
[2:20]Was she... Did she describe being paid money for the services she provided?
[2:24]And additionally, I believe he paid her, um, tuition at Palm Beach Atlanta College.
[2:32]Is that where she got her massage therapy training?
[2:35]Uh, no.
[2:35]No, she got it through the School of the Healing Arts.
[2:37]Okay.
[2:40]What... You mentioned a ****** of ******.
[2:43]She's a licensed massage therapist?
[2:45]That is correct.
[2:46]Um, did she provide massage services to Jeff Epstein?
[2:49]Yes.
[2:50]What kind of services did she...
[2:52]She does a Swedish deep tissue massage.
[2:57]Did the massages by ****** of ****** go beyond a normal massage to the other acts we've heard about today?
[3:05]No.
[3:06]Okay.
[3:09]No.
[3:10]Her job was strictly to come in, provide the massage.
[3:13]She got paid $100, and she left.
[3:15]Okay.
[3:15]So, the licensed massage therapist gets $100.
[3:18]The other girls get much more.
[3:20]Right.
[3:20]Okay.
[3:22]When you were, um...
[3:26]You've met most of these girls.
[3:29]Was there anything different about ****** of ****** that you noticed that made her stand apart from the other girls that were going?
[3:37]****** was not the, um, petite little girl.
[3:42]She was, uh, a bigger girl with plenty of tattoos on her forearms, very visible, uh, on her neck, um, very visible tattoos.
[3:53]If you were to say Mr. Epstein had a type, she would not fit that type?
[3:56]Oh, absolutely.
[3:57]Okay.
[3:58]Um, were you ever able to find any intelligence from the Palm Beach Police Department that confirmed any of these girls being at his house other than the girls saying so?
[4:12]Through physical surveillance?
[4:14]Um, I researched, uh, all the intelligence that the police have gathered, uh, during the past couple years.
[4:23]And in 2004, um, Mr. Rodriguez, uh, the former houseman had called the police because he had seen a suspicious vehicle that he did not recognize in the driveway of Mr. Epstein's house.
[4:38]Um, Mr. Rodriguez was pulling in from Publix, uh...
[4:44]and didn't recognize the vehicle, so he left and drove straight to the police department
[4:47]and notified them there was a strange vehicle in the driveway.
[4:50]When that vehicle was approached by the police officers,
[4:54]they found ****** sitting in the car with her friend.