[0:00]I'll go ahead and put the records on Detective Joe Ricari.
[0:03]I don't need to re-swear you in.
[0:05]I'll just remind you to do it.
[0:07]Okay.
[0:14]Detective Ricari, let's go back to the investigation before you took over.
[0:19]It's still Detective Pagan.
[0:20]There's a mention in the entire report of trash pulls.
[0:23]What's a trash pull?
[0:25]Trash pull is when you make arrangements with the supervisor of sanitation
[0:28]to have the trash man go on to the property
[0:32]remove the trash and place it in the empty well of the trash truck
[0:39]and you follow him to a different location
[0:43]and you retrieve the bags from the truck.
[0:45]How is it that you can take things off someone's property
[0:48]without a search warrant in that way?
[0:51]Is it permissible because it's been discarded?
[0:53]It's discarded.
[0:53]It's trash.
[0:54]It was in the truck.
[0:56]We just take possession of it from the truck.
[0:58]Okay.
[0:59]April 1, 2005.
[1:02]Was there trash?
[1:02]Was there a trash pull at Jeffrey Epstein's house?
[1:05]Correct.
[1:05]Okay.
[1:06]Do you know what was found when they examined the trash from his home?
[1:11]Several messages with phone numbers written on it,
[1:15]with girls' names and different messages.
[1:23]Did any of the messages that you've had a chance to look at,
[1:29]talk about any of the girls you found out through your investigation
[1:32]that had gone to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
[1:34]That is correct.
[1:35]The names.
[1:37]And phone numbers were of girls that have gone to the house
[1:39]and left little messages.
[1:45]I have girls for him, you know, for a good time, call me type of thing.
[1:52]Okay.
[1:54]Was there a message indicating that S*** had an appointment in April?
[2:00]Yes.
[2:00]And what time did Sage have an appointment in April?
[2:03]11 a.m.
[2:03]Okay.
[2:04]Do you know if Detective Pagan had taken voicemail,
[2:08]from Sage's phone where S*** was confirming on a meeting with S***
[2:12]to go there at 11 o'clock?
[2:14]Through controlled phone calls between S***
[2:18]who's making phone calls to S*** for us as part of the investigation,
[2:23]S*** made the appointment to bring Sage over at 11 a.m. for April 1st.
[2:30]But S*** never went there?
[2:31]No.
[2:31]Okay.
[2:33]Now, were there any messages indicating that someone named S***
[2:37]or someone named S***?
[2:38]No.
[2:38]Okay.
[2:38]Okay.
[2:38]Okay.
[2:38]Okay.
[2:38]And S*** had appointments to go to Mr. Epstein's house?
[2:42]Yes.
[2:43]There was several mentions of S*** and S***.
[2:50]Were you able to identify who S*** and S*** were?
[2:55]Yes, I did later on in the investigation.
[2:59]I discovered that Ashley was actually Ashley S***,
[3:04]another S*** high school student who still attends.
[3:06]And S*** was the other girl that was frequenting Epstein's house.
[3:16]How old was S*** at that time?
[3:19]I believe she was 16.
[3:23]And how old was S***?
[3:28]Through the investigation, I found that she started going to the house
[3:30]when she was 16 or had just turned 16.
[3:34]And how long at the time did she continue to go there?
[3:36]Until she turned 18.
[3:42]Was there a trash pull on September 21st of 2016?
[3:45]2005.
[3:46]I guess this is after you've taken over the investigation.
[3:48]Correct.
[3:49]Okay.
[3:49]Was there a trash pull that day?
[3:51]Yes.
[3:53]Did you find anything interesting in that trash pull?
[3:56]Trying to get to...
[4:04]Maybe page 24 or 25 of your report?
[4:14]Page 24.
[4:20]The date was September...
[4:22]September 21st.
[4:36]Yes.
[4:37]What did you find in that trash pull?
[4:39]I had notes with the name S***.
[4:43]Um...
[4:43]With her...
[4:44]With her phone number as well as S*** for a good time.
[4:48]Called S***.
[4:49]Were you able to identify S***?
[4:52]Yes.
[4:52]Who was S***?
[4:56]And what about S***?
[4:57]Were you able to identify S***?
[4:59]Yes.
[4:59]Through the...