[0:03]SPEAKER_00:Good morning.
[0:04]SPEAKER_00:We're now on the video record.
[0:06]SPEAKER_00:Today is Wednesday, the 17th day of February, 2010.
[0:10]SPEAKER_00:The time is 1116 AM.
[0:13]SPEAKER_00:We're here at US Legal Support 444 West Fair Road Avenue, West Palm Beach, Florida.
[0:18]SPEAKER_00:This is the videotape deposition of Jeffrey Epstein taken by the plaintiffs in case number 502008CA028051NBAB.
[0:30]SPEAKER_00:The matter of Ellen versus Jeffrey Epstein.
[0:33]SPEAKER_00:Brad Edwards.
[0:46]SPEAKER_01:Mr. Jaffe.
[0:52]SPEAKER_01:Michael Pike on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein.
[0:58]SPEAKER_09:Please raise your right hand.
[0:59]SPEAKER_09:Please, from the testimony you're about to give, will you give the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
[1:03]SPEAKER_08:Yes, ma'am.
[1:06]SPEAKER_08:Can you give us your name?
[1:08]SPEAKER_08:Jeffrey Epstein.
[1:09]SPEAKER_08:Mr. Epstein, you made a comment when you came in the room that you were appreciative of me being respectful to your housekeeper yesterday, and I intend for that to be the same with you today.
[1:21]SPEAKER_08:I want to start by asking you, you know, at this point, we've gone through a lot of discovery in this case.
[1:29]SPEAKER_08:There aren't many disputed facts as to what actually happened at your house.
[1:33]SPEAKER_08:Generally, I think you would agree that you devised a way for young females to come to your house and engage in varying degrees of sexual activity.
[1:41]SPEAKER_08:Some of the girls as young as 12, some of them as old as 17 or so, most in between.
[1:46]SPEAKER_08:But as of yet, you haven't provided an explanation.
[1:50]SPEAKER_08:So I want to provide you an opportunity to tell the jury at this time why you did it.
[1:56]SPEAKER_01:I'm going to object to confusing, compound, and irrelevant as wording.
[2:02]SPEAKER_03:You know, I'd like to answer that question, frankly.
[2:07]SPEAKER_03:However, at this time, my attorneys have told me that I can't, and I must invoke my 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment rights, or I risk losing their counsel.
[2:20]SPEAKER_03:Accordingly, I therefore assert those rights.
[2:24]SPEAKER_01:Sorry.
[2:26]SPEAKER_01:And in addition to that, I'm going to move to strike counsel's statement as narrative as well.
[2:32]SPEAKER_08:I understand.
[2:33]SPEAKER_08:I wanted to provide him the opportunity if today was going to be the day.
[2:38]SPEAKER_08:Same thing.
[2:39]SPEAKER_08:Move to strike.
[2:39]SPEAKER_08:Narrative.
[2:40]SPEAKER_08:Mr. Epstein, how long have you been sexually attracted to underage minor females?
[2:47]SPEAKER_08:Objection.
[2:48]SPEAKER_08:Harassing.
[2:48]SPEAKER_08:Argumentative.
[2:49]SPEAKER_03:Are you kidding?
[2:54]SPEAKER_08:No, I mean, I don't feel like I'm divulging any secrets here, right?
[3:00]SPEAKER_08:Move to strike.
[3:02]SPEAKER_03:I'd like to answer that question as well.
[3:04]SPEAKER_03:I'll get all your other questions today.
[3:06]SPEAKER_03:However, I have to follow my attorney's advice.
[3:10]SPEAKER_03:They have told me that I must invoke my 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment right to not answer those questions today or any questions relevant to this lawsuit.
[3:22]SPEAKER_03:So accordingly, I'm going to assert those rights under the Constitution as guaranteed by the 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment.
[3:31]SPEAKER_08:Okay.
[3:31]SPEAKER_08:Would you consider yourself addicted to sex with minor females?
[3:35]SPEAKER_08:Same objections.
[3:37]SPEAKER_03:You know, Mr. Edwards, again, I want to be very respectful.
[3:41]SPEAKER_03:And as the current U.S. attorney has described your law firm as a criminal enterprise and part of one of the largest frauds in Florida's history,
[3:50]SPEAKER_03:It's been reported that your firm has fabricated multiple cases against me in order to fleece unsuspecting investors out of millions and millions of dollars.
[4:00]SPEAKER_03:So unfortunately, at this time, though I'd like to answer that question, at an advice of counsel, I'm going to have to refrain and assert my Fifth, Sixth, and Fourth Amendment right.
[4:10]SPEAKER_08:Can you then provide an explanation for...
[4:14]SPEAKER_08:What relevance that soliloquy of yours has to whether or not you engaged in sex acts with...
[4:26]SPEAKER_08:She was a minor.
[4:28]SPEAKER_01:Objection.
[4:29]SPEAKER_01:No, he cannot.
[4:30]SPEAKER_01:Argumentative.
[4:31]SPEAKER_01:Compound.
[4:32]SPEAKER_01:Harassing.
[4:34]SPEAKER_08:Mr. Pike, with all due respect, it wasn't my idea for him to give this speech about a former RRA law firm.
[4:41]SPEAKER_01:I'm just asking him to elaborate on that.
[4:44]SPEAKER_01:Counsel, I'm working with your follow-up question.
[4:47]SPEAKER_01:So I'm objecting and I'm objecting to form and stating the reasons on the record as to why the form is required to be objected to based upon your question.
[4:55]SPEAKER_08:will he elaborate on the relevance of that soliloquy to his touching when she was 13, 14, and 15 years old in a sexual manner?
[5:11]SPEAKER_01:I'm going to object again.
[5:12]SPEAKER_01:Argumentative, compound, harassing, and irrelevant as worded.
[5:18]SPEAKER_01:You can answer.
[5:20]SPEAKER_03:I'd like to answer.
[5:21]SPEAKER_03:However, I'm going to have to assert my Fifth Amendment, Sixth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment right as advised by my counsel.
[5:28]SPEAKER_03:Otherwise, I risk losing their advice.
[5:33]SPEAKER_08:Mr. Epstein, have you ever been diagnosed with a sex addiction to minors by a psychologist or other medical professional?
[5:44]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all your questions at some relevant time.
[5:49]SPEAKER_03:However, today, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit, and I must accept their advice and risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[6:01]SPEAKER_03:Accordingly, I assert by 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment rights to the United States Constitution.
[6:09]SPEAKER_01:In addition to that, Mr. Edwards, as the court has ruled in several matters, Mr. Epstein's medical history is not relevant at this time, nor has he placed same at issue in this case.
[6:21]SPEAKER_01:Understood.
[6:23]SPEAKER_08:Mr. Epstein, were you sexually abused as a minor?
[6:30]SPEAKER_08:Again?
[6:31]SPEAKER_08:Were you sexually abused as a minor?
[6:34]SPEAKER_03:You know, I'd like to, again, I'd like to respond to all your, if any questions seem to be relevant, but I would like to respond to any relevant question at this time.
[6:43]SPEAKER_03:However, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to the questions relevant to this lawsuit today.
[6:48]SPEAKER_03:I must accept their advice or risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[6:54]SPEAKER_03:Accordingly, then, I assert my Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment right to the United States Constitution.
[7:00]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true that you have engaged in some sexual interaction with hundreds of underage minor females in the last 10 years of your life?
[7:16]SPEAKER_08:That true?
[7:18]SPEAKER_08:Rejection of relevance.
[7:19]SPEAKER_03:Mr. Edwards, the current U.S. attorney has described your law firm as a criminal enterprise and part of the largest fraud in Florida's history.
[7:29]SPEAKER_03:It has been reported that your firm fabricated multiple cases, many, many multiple cases against me in order to fleece unsuspecting investors out of millions and millions of dollars.
[7:40]SPEAKER_03:Unfortunately, at this time, in response to your question, my attorneys advised me that I must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment right.
[7:49]SPEAKER_03:Though I believe you know that I would really like to answer your questions today, but at this moment I must assert those rights or risk having my attorneys resign.
[7:58]SPEAKER_08:You're invoking your Fifth Amendment rights to each of these questions because you know that your answers will incriminate you and you feel that it will result in you being prosecuted for these crimes.
[8:10]SPEAKER_08:Isn't that right?
[8:11]SPEAKER_01:Objection argumentative, harassing, and calls for a legal conclusion.
[8:17]SPEAKER_03:No, in fact, the Supreme Court recently said that the Fifth Amendment right is there to protect the innocent.
[8:24]SPEAKER_03:So that's the way I'd like to answer that.
[8:28]SPEAKER_08:Are you actually telling the jury that you didn't commit the crimes that have been alleged against you by the various females that were underage when you engaged in sex with them?
[8:41]SPEAKER_08:Are you telling the jury that right now?
[8:42]SPEAKER_01:Objection, argumentative, harassing.
[8:46]SPEAKER_03:I would like to respond to that question, as you know.
[8:50]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit, and I must accept their advice and risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[9:02]SPEAKER_03:Accordingly, I assert my Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment right under the United States Constitution.
[9:12]SPEAKER_08:Mr. Epstein, you understand that this is the video that will be played to the jury in trial against you.
[9:20]SPEAKER_08:And wants answers.
[9:22]SPEAKER_08:These juries are going to the jury is going to want answers.
[9:25]SPEAKER_08:So I know that you're telling us that you're going to respond at some time in the future.
[9:28]SPEAKER_08:But the time is now.
[9:29]SPEAKER_08:Would you like this opportunity to explain why you engaged in sexual activity with?
[9:36]SPEAKER_08:beginning when she was 13 years old and you were 50 years old.
[9:41]SPEAKER_01:I'm going to object once again.
[9:42]SPEAKER_01:We're getting way too argumentative with the questioning.
[9:46]SPEAKER_01:The questioning is compound, it's speculative, and it's also harassing.
[9:53]SPEAKER_01:Whether or not this deposition video thereof is played in front of a jury is a question of fact, and it will be determined by a judge pursuant to a motion and limiting various portions thereof may or may not be played.
[10:08]SPEAKER_01:So having placed those objections on the record, I'm going to instruct Mr. Epstein not to answer that question.
[10:22]SPEAKER_08:Mr. Pike, I don't know if you watched the 13 hours of harassing questions to Ms. *** that she sometimes invoked her Fifth Amendment rights.
[10:32]SPEAKER_08:And I understand the adverse inference that would be given.
[10:35]SPEAKER_08:And she was made to answer these questions.
[10:38]SPEAKER_08:And these exact same questions were asked of her.
[10:40]SPEAKER_08:In fact, I'm using the phraseology from Mr. Luthier.
[10:44]SPEAKER_08:I'm not trying to harass him.
[10:45]SPEAKER_08:I'm simply asking him to explain to the jury
[10:49]SPEAKER_08:If you're saying that it didn't happen, say it didn't happen.
[10:51]SPEAKER_08:If you're saying it did happen, explain to the jury why you did it.
[10:54]SPEAKER_08:That's all we want to hear.
[10:55]SPEAKER_08:I'm being respectful about this.
[10:57]SPEAKER_01:In an effort to keep a clean record and be respectful to the court reporter, rather than have a diatribe back and forth between you and myself, I'm going to move to strike your last statement as irrelevant.
[11:12]SPEAKER_01:Let's move on.
[11:13]SPEAKER_08:Mr. Epstein, is it true you were born January 20th, 1953?
[11:18]SPEAKER_08:Yes.
[11:20]SPEAKER_08:Where?
[11:21]SPEAKER_08:New York.
[11:22]SPEAKER_08:Where in New York?
[11:23]SPEAKER_08:Brooklyn.
[11:25]SPEAKER_08:Did you go to high school there?
[11:27]SPEAKER_08:Yes, sir.
[11:28]SPEAKER_08:Where?
[11:29]SPEAKER_08:Lafayette.
[11:31]SPEAKER_08:High school.
[11:32]SPEAKER_08:After high school, did you attend college?
[11:33]SPEAKER_08:Yes, sir.
[11:34]SPEAKER_08:And where was that?
[11:36]SPEAKER_08:In New York.
[11:37]SPEAKER_08:What college did you attend?
[11:39]SPEAKER_08:Cooper Union.
[11:41]SPEAKER_08:I'm sorry.
[11:41]SPEAKER_08:Cooper Union.
[11:44]SPEAKER_08:And did you get a degree from Cooper Union?
[11:46]SPEAKER_08:No, sir.
[11:48]SPEAKER_08:How many years were you in college?
[11:49]SPEAKER_08:I believe two.
[11:52]SPEAKER_08:What did you study?
[11:53]SPEAKER_08:Physics.
[11:55]SPEAKER_08:And why did you leave college early?
[12:00]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[12:04]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to questions that may be relevant to this lawsuit.
[12:11]SPEAKER_03:So, accordingly, I assert my constitutional rights as guaranteed by the 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment.
[12:16]SPEAKER_08:Are you invoking your Fifth Amendment rights as to why you left college?
[12:21]SPEAKER_08:Is it safe then to presume that that answer, you believe, would incriminate you in some way?
[12:29]SPEAKER_01:I'm going to move to strike.
[12:30]SPEAKER_01:Speculative, argumentative, harassing calls for a legal conclusion.
[12:35]SPEAKER_01:And I know exactly what you're trying to do here, Mr. Edwards, is lace the record with questions that would ultimately give you an adverse inference
[12:45]SPEAKER_01:at any potential trial of this matter.
[12:48]SPEAKER_01:So having put that on the record,
[12:51]SPEAKER_01:I'm going to instruct him not to answer that question based upon his 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment rights to the United States Constitution.
[12:59]SPEAKER_08:With all due respect, you cannot invoke his 5th Amendment rights.
[13:01]SPEAKER_08:Your attorneys instructed me in that fashion.
[13:04]SPEAKER_08:He can.
[13:04]SPEAKER_08:And Tatum Miller had to do it herself.
[13:07]SPEAKER_08:So I'd like to hear it from Mr. Epstein.
[13:09]SPEAKER_08:Can we assume that by you invoking your 5th Amendment rights as to why you left college early that that answer you feel would incriminate you?
[13:18]SPEAKER_01:Once again, moved to strike for the same reasons.
[13:22]SPEAKER_03:I've already answered the question, but I'll restate the answer.
[13:25]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond and I'd like to respond to all your questions today.
[13:30]SPEAKER_03:However, my counsel has advised me that I must take the 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment right under the U.S. Constitution.
[13:38]SPEAKER_03:Okay.
[13:39]SPEAKER_08:After college, where were you employed?
[13:44]SPEAKER_03:You know, I'd like to respond to all your questions today.
[13:47]SPEAKER_03:However, I've done advice to counsel.
[13:49]SPEAKER_03:I intend to take the Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment right as provided by the United States Constitution or risk losing my counsel's representation.
[13:57]SPEAKER_08:Well, isn't it true that you were a teacher at the Dalton School in New York after college?
[14:05]SPEAKER_03:Again, I would like to respond to all your questions.
[14:09]SPEAKER_03:However, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions today regarding this lawsuit.
[14:15]SPEAKER_03:So I must accept their advice to risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[14:21]SPEAKER_03:Accordingly, I assert my constitutional rights as guaranteed by the Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution.
[14:27]SPEAKER_08:Mr. Epstein, did you have sex with any underage students while teaching at the Dolphin School?
[14:34]SPEAKER_08:Could you repeat that?
[14:36]SPEAKER_08:Yes.
[14:37]SPEAKER_08:Did you have sex with any underage students while teaching at the Dalton School in New York?
[14:42]SPEAKER_03:Mr. Edwards, your firm has been described by the U.S. Attorney as criminal enterprise, perpetrating one of the largest frauds in Florida's history.
[14:56]SPEAKER_03:It has been reported that your firm fabricated multiple cases against me and others in order to fleece unsuspecting investors out of millions and millions of dollars.
[15:06]SPEAKER_03:Unfortunately, at this time, in response to your question, my attorneys have advised me that I must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment rights.
[15:15]SPEAKER_03:Though I believe you know I'd really like to answer your questions, but at this moment I must assert those rights by having my attorneys resign.
[15:22]SPEAKER_08:Mr. Pike, I think you know that he has a couple options here.
[15:26]SPEAKER_08:He can answer questions or he can invoke his Fifth Amendment rights.
[15:29]SPEAKER_08:This non-responsive...
[15:32]SPEAKER_08:verbiage regarding the RRA law firm is not one of the options.
[15:38]SPEAKER_08:It's inappropriate in a deposition and I'd ask that you instruct your client not to obstruct this process any further.
[15:44]SPEAKER_08:I'm not going to terminate the deposition.
[15:46]SPEAKER_08:I want it to finish.
[15:48]SPEAKER_08:But obviously, this is going to be the subject matter of some motion in the courts, and you know that the judges are not going to appreciate this.
[15:55]SPEAKER_08:So I'd like it if we could just move this process along by eliminating that portion of his answer.
[16:00]SPEAKER_08:I understand what he's saying.
[16:02]SPEAKER_08:I get it.
[16:03]SPEAKER_08:But that's not something responsive to any of these questions, and I think that you know it's inappropriate.
[16:07]SPEAKER_01:I think the deponent is answering the questions.
[16:15]SPEAKER_01:So if you believe that the responses are inappropriate, I feel that you can take it up with the court with the motion that you're speaking of, as you've done several times before.
[16:32]SPEAKER_08:After leaving the Dalton School, is it true that you began working as a money manager at Bear Stearns?
[16:46]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all your questions regarding this lawsuit at some relevant time.
[16:51]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit.
[16:59]SPEAKER_03:Since the U.S. attorney has described your law firm as a criminal enterprise, Mr. Edwards, I am part of the largest fraud in Florida's history.
[17:09]SPEAKER_03:I am going to assert my Sixth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[17:20]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true that while you were working at Bear Stearns, you were already engaging in sex with underage minors?
[17:28]SPEAKER_03:Again, I believe you know the answers to those questions.
[17:32]SPEAKER_03:Yes.
[17:33]SPEAKER_03:May I finish?
[17:35]SPEAKER_01:Move to strike.
[17:37]SPEAKER_01:Let the witness answer your question.
[17:41]SPEAKER_01:I would love for him to answer your question.
[17:42]SPEAKER_01:Mr. Edwards, as you know, there are...
[17:45]SPEAKER_01:serious 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment constitutional rights at issue here, and the witness is attempting to answer your questions to the best of his ability, despite how laced they are with adverse inference presumptions.
[18:02]SPEAKER_08:I don't want the adverse inference.
[18:03]SPEAKER_08:I want answers.
[18:04]SPEAKER_08:That's it.
[18:05]SPEAKER_01:So, having said that, please allow the witness to answer the question.
[18:11]SPEAKER_01:Could you repeat the question?
[18:12]SPEAKER_08:Is it true that while working at Bear Stearns, you were already engaging in sex with underage minor females?
[18:22]SPEAKER_03:As your firm has been described by the U.S. Attorney as a criminal enterprise, using some of the cases fabricated against me personally,
[18:34]SPEAKER_03:I would like to answer that question today.
[18:37]SPEAKER_03:However, on advice of counsel, I must assert my 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution or, in fact, risk losing their representation.
[18:49]SPEAKER_08:At some point in time, while at Bear Stearns, you met and managed the money for a fellow named Leslie Wexner, correct?
[19:01]SPEAKER_03:Again, I would like to answer all questions relevant to this lawsuit, but today I must exert my Fifth Amendment, Sixth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment right under the U.S. Constitution.
[19:14]SPEAKER_08:In fact, I read in another deposition of yours that you do not consider yourself to be homosexual, correct?
[19:22]SPEAKER_08:You've answered that question before.
[19:24]SPEAKER_08:Correct.
[19:26]SPEAKER_08:Do you consider yourself to be bisexual?
[19:29]SPEAKER_08:No.
[19:30]SPEAKER_08:Okay.
[19:32]SPEAKER_08:In any event, you did develop a sexual relationship with Leslie Wexner at some point in time.
[19:37]SPEAKER_08:Is that true?
[19:38]SPEAKER_08:No.
[19:39]SPEAKER_08:Okay.
[19:45]SPEAKER_03:Did you have a business relationship with Mr. Wexner?
[19:49]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions.
[19:51]SPEAKER_03:I'd like to answer most of your questions, Mr. Edwards, today.
[19:54]SPEAKER_03:But, however, especially since your firm has been described by the United States Attorney in South Florida as a criminal enterprise purported to have pulled off the largest fraud in Florida's history.
[20:09]SPEAKER_03:I would like to answer that, however, my attorneys today counsel me that I must assert my 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution, and therefore I don't do that.
[20:20]SPEAKER_08:Are you saying that because Rothstein Rosenfeld Adler was determined to be a criminal enterprise, or somebody was running a criminal enterprise out of that law firm, that is the reason why you're not going to answer these questions today?
[20:36]SPEAKER_08:You link that together in that answer.
[20:37]SPEAKER_08:I just want to make sure I'm understanding that right.
[20:41]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions today.
[20:46]SPEAKER_03:I would like to respond.
[20:48]SPEAKER_03:Unfortunately, my attorneys have counseled me I can't.
[20:50]SPEAKER_03:I must assert my 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[20:55]SPEAKER_08:Because other law firms have asked very similar questions, and you haven't responded to any of theirs either.
[21:00]SPEAKER_08:So I just want to understand what the relationship between Rothstein, Rosenfeld, Adler is to you invoking your 5th Amendment rights today.
[21:08]SPEAKER_08:If you can articulate that point.
[21:10]SPEAKER_03:Form, compound, argumentative.
[21:12]SPEAKER_03:Rothstein Rosenfeld Adler has been described by the U.S. attorney as a criminal enterprise.
[21:17]SPEAKER_03:And as part of the largest fraud in Florida's history, it has been reported that your firm fabricated multiple cases using me and against me in order to fleece unsuspecting investors out of millions of dollars.
[21:34]SPEAKER_08:Another longtime friend of yours is Ghislaine Maxwell.
[21:37]SPEAKER_08:Right.
[21:40]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions.
[21:42]SPEAKER_03:I'd like to answer most of the questions today, but I can't because my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit.
[21:52]SPEAKER_03:I must accept or advise or risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[21:57]SPEAKER_03:Therefore, I'm going to assert my constitutional rights under the Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment.
[22:03]SPEAKER_03:Excuse me, could we take a break?
[22:05]SPEAKER_03:All ready?
[22:06]SPEAKER_03:Just rest for a minute.
[22:15]SPEAKER_00:We're back on the video record at 11.48 a.m. How did you meet Ghislaine Maxwell?
[22:27]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions to this lawsuit.
[22:30]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit and must accept this advice or risk losing my right to effective representation.
[22:44]SPEAKER_03:Accordingly, therefore, I assert my 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment right to the U.S. Constitution.
[22:51]SPEAKER_08:You would agree, would you not, that Ghislaine Maxwell shares your sexual obsession for underage minor females?
[23:00]SPEAKER_08:Argumentative, speculation, harassing.
[23:05]SPEAKER_03:You know, Mr. Edwards, the current U.S. attorney has described your law firm...
[23:10]SPEAKER_03:as a criminal enterprise, as taking part in one of the largest frauds in Florida's history.
[23:17]SPEAKER_03:It has been widely reported that your firm fabricated multiple cases of a sexual nature against other people and me in order to fleece unsuspecting investors out of millions of dollars.
[23:30]SPEAKER_03:So unfortunately, at this time,
[23:32]SPEAKER_03:In response to your questions, my attorneys have advised me that I must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment rights.
[23:38]SPEAKER_03:Though I believe, as you know, I'd really like to answer your questions, but at this moment, I must assert those rights or risk losing effective counsel.
[23:53]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[23:57]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit.
[24:04]SPEAKER_03:Your firm has been described as a criminal enterprise that's part of the largest fraud in Florida's history, fabricating sexual cases against me and others.
[24:17]SPEAKER_03:Therefore, unfortunately, I know I'd like to answer all of your questions today.
[24:21]SPEAKER_03:I'm going to have to assert my 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment, right?
[24:27]SPEAKER_08:Did you and Ghislaine Maxwell sexually assault at Leslie Wexner's house?
[24:36]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[24:41]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit.
[24:48]SPEAKER_03:I must accept this advice and risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[24:53]SPEAKER_03:Accordingly, I assert my constitutional rights as guaranteed by the 5th, 6th, and 14th amendments to the U.S. Constitution.
[25:02]SPEAKER_08:Strepstein, Ghislaine Maxwell and you have devised several schemes to lure underage girls to you for sex.
[25:10]SPEAKER_08:Isn't that correct?
[25:11]SPEAKER_08:Form argumentative harassing.
[25:15]SPEAKER_03:Mr. Edwards, your firm has fabricated multiple cases, sexual harassment claims, and other types of sexual cases against me and others in order to be part of what the U.S. attorney described as the largest fraud, the largest fraud in Florida's history.
[25:34]SPEAKER_03:I'd like to answer all your questions.
[25:35]SPEAKER_03:However, my attorneys have counseled me that at least today I must assert my Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[25:49]SPEAKER_07:Do you own a home in Manhattan?
[25:56]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions to this lawsuit.
[26:00]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit.
[26:07]SPEAKER_03:And I must accept their advice of disclosing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[26:13]SPEAKER_03:Accordingly, therefore, I have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment right under the U.S. Constitution.
[26:20]SPEAKER_08:Do you own an island in the U.S. Virgin Islands?
[26:29]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[26:33]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit, no matter how much I'd like to.
[26:42]SPEAKER_03:Therefore, I must accept their advice or risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[26:48]SPEAKER_03:Therefore, I have to assert my 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment right under the U.S. Constitution.
[26:55]SPEAKER_04:Do you own a home in New Mexico?
[27:02]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit, and as I've had to do with most of your questions here today.
[27:11]SPEAKER_03:I'm going to have to take my attorney's advice and assert my 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment right under the U.S. Constitution or risk losing effective representation.
[27:23]SPEAKER_08:Is it true that you have had underage females at each of those homes for orgies with you and Ghislaine Maxwell?
[27:32]SPEAKER_08:Form, argumentative, speculation, and harassing.
[27:40]SPEAKER_03:I would like to answer that question.
[27:43]SPEAKER_03:I really would.
[27:44]SPEAKER_03:However, as your firm has been described by the U.S. attorney as a criminal enterprise, its principal purpose was racketeering conspiracy to generate money for the firm and its co-conspirators through the operation and enterprise and through various activities including mail fraud, wire fraud, and money laundering.
[28:07]SPEAKER_03:and fabricating multiple sex cases against me and others.
[28:11]SPEAKER_03:Though I'd like to answer your question today, Mr. Edwards, my counsel has advised me I must take the 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment rights provided by the U.S. Constitution.
[28:20]SPEAKER_08:You know somebody named ****?
[28:23]SPEAKER_08:Would you spell that for the record?
[28:26]SPEAKER_08:No.
[28:28]SPEAKER_08:Or for the court report?
[28:31]SPEAKER_08:No.
[28:31]SPEAKER_08:You don't know the name?
[28:32]SPEAKER_08:No.
[28:36]SPEAKER_03:Could you spell it?
[28:50]SPEAKER_08:Did your sexual obsession
[28:53]SPEAKER_08:with underage minor females grow at some point in time to allow you access to these underage minors every single day for sex over broad speculation argumentative compound harassing and confusing confusing as worded you want to break it down mr edwards isn't it true that for the past 10 years you have found a way
[29:23]SPEAKER_08:to engage in sexual conduct with underage minors on an everyday basis.
[29:28]SPEAKER_08:Speculation argumentative.
[29:35]SPEAKER_03:As your firm has been described as a criminal enterprise by the United States Attorney and as part of the scheme to defraud people in South Florida of millions of dollars, you have fabricated sexual cases and sexual claims against people like me and others.
[29:53]SPEAKER_03:Unfortunately, this time, though I'd like to answer your question, Mr. Edwards, my counsels advise me I cannot.
[29:59]SPEAKER_03:They advise me I must assert my 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment rights under the Constitution.
[30:05]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true that you have promised underage minors money or other benefits to engage in sexual conduct with you over the past 10 years?
[30:25]SPEAKER_03:Again, as I've answered many of your questions today, and unfortunately I'm probably going to end up answering most of your questions today, as your firm has been described, the firm bringing this lawsuit, I believe, has been described, and if I'm wrong, please correct me.
[30:44]SPEAKER_03:You're wrong.
[30:44]SPEAKER_03:Okay.
[30:45]SPEAKER_03:This is the firm that didn't notice this deposition?
[30:48]SPEAKER_03:Did not.
[30:49]SPEAKER_03:Originally?
[30:50]SPEAKER_03:Did not close?
[30:51]SPEAKER_03:Right.
[30:52]SPEAKER_03:I apologize.
[30:53]SPEAKER_03:So your former firm has been described, and the person you represent, Taylor Miller, in this case, was represented by the firm that was described by the U.S. attorney as perpetrating one of the largest frauds in South Florida's history.
[31:10]SPEAKER_03:fabricating multiple sexual cases against me and others in order to fleece unsuspecting investors out of millions and millions of dollars.
[31:21]SPEAKER_03:So though unfortunately I'd like to answer each one of your questions today, my counsel has advised me I must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fourteenth Amendment, and Fifth Amendment right.
[31:31]SPEAKER_03:Though I believe you know I'd like to answer those questions, but at this moment I must assert those rights or risk losing my attorneys.
[31:38]SPEAKER_08:Sure, let's test that answer.
[31:41]SPEAKER_08:Let's talk about Jane Doe 102.
[31:45]SPEAKER_08:Jane Doe 102, who was represented by Bob Josephsburg's firm, Podhurst Orsec, had nothing to do with Rothstein Rosenfeld Adler.
[31:55]SPEAKER_08:Do you know...
[32:01]SPEAKER_03:So she's, again, who?
[32:05]SPEAKER_03:Can you spell it?
[32:07]SPEAKER_08:Common spelling.
[32:09]SPEAKER_03:Can you spell it for me, please?
[32:12]SPEAKER_03:What's the last name?
[32:13]SPEAKER_03:How's it spelled?
[32:18]SPEAKER_03:I believe.
[32:18]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[32:26]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions that may be relevant to this lawsuit, and I must accept this advice at risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[32:38]SPEAKER_03:Accordingly, I assert my constitutional rights as guaranteed by the Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution.
[32:50]SPEAKER_08:And just for the record, I can only spell it the way that it was spelled in your flight logs from your airplane.
[32:56]SPEAKER_08:I don't know exactly how she spells her name, only how your pilot would spell her name.
[33:05]SPEAKER_01:Formed speculation, argumentative harassing, and assumes facts currently not in evidence in this particular deposition, and therefore moved to strike.
[33:16]SPEAKER_08:I was responding to his question, asking me how to spell her name.
[33:20]SPEAKER_08:I don't know how, other than his own pilot.
[33:22]SPEAKER_01:Mr. Edwards, he asked you to spell the name.
[33:25]SPEAKER_01:You then spelled the name, and then you went on another narrative.
[33:28]SPEAKER_01:There wasn't a question posed on the floor.
[33:31]SPEAKER_08:You would agree that you interacted with every day in a sexual way when she was 15 years old.
[33:41]SPEAKER_08:Right?
[33:45]SPEAKER_03:Again, sir?
[33:47]SPEAKER_08:Sure, you would agree that you interacted with ****** sexually on an everyday basis when she was 15 years old.
[33:55]SPEAKER_03:You know, again, Mr. Edwards, I'd like to answer all your questions here today.
[33:59]SPEAKER_03:My attorneys have asked me, advised me that I must assert my 6th Amendment, 14th Amendment, and 5th Amendment rights.
[34:09]SPEAKER_03:provided by the U.S. Constitution.
[34:11]SPEAKER_03:And the fact that the current U.S. attorney has described your law firm as a criminal enterprise is one of the largest frauds in Florida's history for fabricating sexual cases of the sexual nature against me and others.
[34:25]SPEAKER_03:Unfortunately, though, I'd like to answer those questions.
[34:27]SPEAKER_03:If I do, I risk losing my attorney's counsel.
[34:32]SPEAKER_03:Therefore, I must assert my right.
[34:35]SPEAKER_08:All right, Madam Court Reporter, I'm going to attach as an exhibit the Jane Doe number 102 versus Jeffrey Epstein complaint.
[34:44]SPEAKER_08:At some point in time, it doesn't have to be done now, but it's going to be exhibit one as I'm going to go through some of the facts as alleged in the complaint and as will be testified to by the plaintiff.
[34:54]SPEAKER_08:Counsel, do you have an extra copy of that for me?
[34:56]SPEAKER_08:No.
[34:57]SPEAKER_01:May I look at it real quick?
[34:58]SPEAKER_08:No.
[35:00]SPEAKER_08:Would you agree that you...
[35:03]SPEAKER_08:It has my notes on it.
[35:04]SPEAKER_08:No, I understood.
[35:05]SPEAKER_08:I saw it.
[35:05]SPEAKER_08:But the notes are in a highlighter, so when we copy it, it's not going to show up and you can have a copy of it.
[35:10]SPEAKER_01:Understood.
[35:10]SPEAKER_01:That's fine.
[35:11]SPEAKER_01:Just for the record, that is a current operative pleading, correct?
[35:15]SPEAKER_01:Correct.
[35:17]SPEAKER_03:What does that mean?
[35:19]SPEAKER_01:It means that there may have been some amendments to a complaint.
[35:22]SPEAKER_01:I want to make sure that that is the operative complaint at issue that he's speaking from today.
[35:28]SPEAKER_03:Is it true that... Can I go with the record, sir?
[35:32]SPEAKER_01:Can I ask you a question?
[35:34]SPEAKER_01:Sure.
[35:34]SPEAKER_01:Can we take a break for a second?
[35:36]SPEAKER_01:Again?
[35:36]SPEAKER_01:I want to speak with you for a second.
[35:41]SPEAKER_00:We're back on the video record at 4.01 p.m. We're back on the video record at 4.02 p.m.
[35:52]SPEAKER_08:Is it true, Mr. Epstein, that you and Galen Maxwell forced ****** to have sex with you on a daily basis?
[36:01]SPEAKER_05:Form argumentative harassment.
[36:06]SPEAKER_03:Unfortunately, at this time, though I'd really like to answer those questions...
[36:11]SPEAKER_03:like I've done for most of your questions here today, Mr. Edwards.
[36:15]SPEAKER_03:Your firm was described as a criminal enterprise, a serious criminal enterprise by the current U.S. attorney.
[36:23]SPEAKER_03:Part of that criminal enterprise was fabricating cases of sexual nature against me and others in order to fleece unsuspecting investors out of millions of dollars.
[36:33]SPEAKER_03:So, though, unfortunately, at this time, no matter how I'd like to respond to your questions,
[36:38]SPEAKER_03:I must assert my 6th Amendment, 5th Amendment, and 14th Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution or risk having my attorneys resign.
[36:47]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true that ****** was yours and Ghislaine Maxwell's sex slave from the time she was 15 through the time she escaped when she was 19?
[36:57]SPEAKER_01:Again, injection argumentative, harassing.
[37:01]SPEAKER_03:Mr. Edwards, your firm has been described as a criminal enterprise by the current U.S. Attorney and part of the largest fraud in Florida's history.
[37:12]SPEAKER_03:Part of that fraud is fabricating multiple cases against people like me and others of a sexual nature in order to fleece unsuspecting investors out of millions and millions of dollars.
[37:24]SPEAKER_03:So though I'd like to answer that question, my attorneys have told me today I must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fourteenth Amendment, and Fifth Amendment right.
[37:39]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true that you and Galynn Maxwell celebrated her 16th birthday with her and had sex with her on that day?
[37:49]SPEAKER_01:Form, compound, confusing, argumentative, and harassing.
[37:56]SPEAKER_03:Mr. Edwards, I'd like to answer that question.
[37:59]SPEAKER_03:My attorneys told me today that I have to, at least today, assert my 5th Amendment, 6th Amendment, and 14th Amendment rights to the U.S. Constitution.
[38:07]SPEAKER_03:Especially, my concern is that your firm
[38:10]SPEAKER_03:has filed fraudulent lawsuits, fabricated lawsuits, and the U.S. attorney, the current U.S. attorney, has described your firm as a criminal enterprise whose main purpose was to generate money for the firm and its co-conspirators through the operation of various criminal activities, including mail fraud, wire fraud, and money laundering.
[38:39]SPEAKER_08:Are you saying that the complaint of ****** against you, the allegations of that complaint, are false?
[38:47]SPEAKER_05:Form misinterprets the witness's testimony.
[38:51]SPEAKER_05:Or are you saying that's true?
[38:53]SPEAKER_05:Same objection.
[38:54]SPEAKER_05:It's either true or false.
[38:58]SPEAKER_03:What I said, maybe I'll repeat myself, unfortunately, but the current U.S. attorney has described your law firm ****** was involved in the filing of ******.
[39:10]SPEAKER_03:motions.
[39:11]SPEAKER_03:I'm sorry.
[39:12]SPEAKER_03:Do you want to tell me what it was then?
[39:14]SPEAKER_03:Would you like to tell me the firm's involvement in this lawsuit since this will be here the rest of the day?
[39:22]SPEAKER_05:Answer the question.
[39:25]SPEAKER_03:The U.S. attorneys described that firm as a criminal enterprise perpetrating one of the largest frauds in Florida's history against unsuspecting investors, fleecing them out of millions of dollars by creating, crafting, and fabricating fallacious sexual claims against people like me and others.
[39:46]SPEAKER_03:So unfortunately, though, I'd like to answer your questions, Mr. Edwards.
[39:50]SPEAKER_03:My counsel has advised me that at least today I must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[39:59]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true, sir, and I'm reading from the complaint filed by *** against you, isn't it true, sir, that a friend of yours sent you three 12-year-old...
[40:12]SPEAKER_08:for you to sexually abuse on one of your birthdays.
[40:17]SPEAKER_01:Form argumentative, harassing, and irrelevant to this lawsuit.
[40:22]SPEAKER_03:But you're saying it's part of the lawsuit?
[40:26]SPEAKER_06:Yeah, I'll read it directly.
[40:39]SPEAKER_08:On one of defendant Epstein's birthdays, a friend of defendant Epstein sent him three 12-year-old girls from France who spoke no English for defendant to sexually exploit and abuse.
[40:55]SPEAKER_08:After doing so, they were sent back to France the next day.
[40:59]SPEAKER_01:Isn't that true?
[41:00]SPEAKER_01:Once again.
[41:01]SPEAKER_01:I'm going to move to strike.
[41:02]SPEAKER_01:Irrelevant, argumentative, harassing, and for the record, the exhibit that's being read from is a complaint that is unrelated to the incident matter and not filed or incorporated by the current plaintiff in this matter.
[41:21]SPEAKER_03:I would like to answer that question.
[41:23]SPEAKER_03:I really would.
[41:24]SPEAKER_03:However, today, my attorneys have told me I have to assert my Fifth Amendment, Sixth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution, especially because your firm involved in this lawsuit has fabricated, widely reported, multiple cases of sexual harassment cases against individuals like me and others, perpetrating what the U.S. attorney called one of the largest frauds in Florida's history.
[41:51]SPEAKER_03:Fleecing people out of millions of dollars.
[41:54]SPEAKER_03:So though I'd like to answer that question, today I have to assert those rights or risk losing my attorney's counsel.
[42:02]SPEAKER_08:Is it true that you forced ****** as a 15-year-old girl to have sex with numerous friends of yours?
[42:09]SPEAKER_08:Are you kidding?
[42:10]SPEAKER_03:Reading from a lawsuit.
[42:11]SPEAKER_03:Oh, you're reading from a lawsuit.
[42:12]SPEAKER_03:I'm sorry.
[42:12]SPEAKER_03:Sorry, Mr. Evans.
[42:14]SPEAKER_03:I'm going to have to...
[42:15]SPEAKER_03:Though I'd like to answer that question as well, as I answered most of your other questions here today...
[42:20]SPEAKER_03:I would like to respond.
[42:21]SPEAKER_03:My attorneys, however, have advised me I would have to assert my Fifth Amendment, Sixth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution, especially as your firm has been accused by the U.S. attorney of being a criminal enterprise and part of the largest fraud in Florida's history.
[42:41]SPEAKER_03:basically, I'm sorry if I read correctly, the operation of the enterprise through various criminal activities, including mail fraud, wire fraud, and money laundering, fabricating sexual harassment cases against people like me and others.
[42:58]SPEAKER_08:By the way, didn't ****** receive a round-trip ticket paid for by you to ******?
[43:08]SPEAKER_08:And she ultimately did not get back on the plane, but instead escaped to .
[43:15]SPEAKER_03:I'd like to answer that question.
[43:17]SPEAKER_03:But today, I'm going to have to assert my Sixth Amendment rights, my Fifth Amendment rights, and my Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[43:26]SPEAKER_03:Especially since your firm has been described as perpetrating one of the largest frauds in Florida's history.
[43:34]SPEAKER_03:fleecing investors out of millions of dollars being described by the U.S. Attorney of South Florida as a criminal enterprise engaged in various criminal activities including mail fraud, wire fraud, and money laundering.
[43:51]SPEAKER_08:Do you know a man named Jean-Luc Brunel?
[43:58]SPEAKER_08:Can you spell it?
[43:59]SPEAKER_01:He was at your house last week.
[44:02]SPEAKER_01:Does that remind you?
[44:03]SPEAKER_01:Form, move to strike, speculation, argumentative, harassing.
[44:07]SPEAKER_01:Is there a question on the table?
[44:08]SPEAKER_01:Yes, do you know him?
[44:10]SPEAKER_01:Could you spell his name for me, please?
[44:13]SPEAKER_08:I don't need to spell his name.
[44:15]SPEAKER_08:You know who I'm talking about.
[44:16]SPEAKER_08:Mr. Brunel.
[44:18]SPEAKER_08:I'm sorry, could you... Mr. what?
[44:21]SPEAKER_08:B-R-U-N-E-L. Ah, I see.
[44:25]SPEAKER_03:I would like to answer that question as well, but my attorneys have counseled me to that today.
[44:29]SPEAKER_03:I'm going to have to assert my Sixth Amendment rights, my Fifth Amendment rights, and my Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution, or risk losing my right to effective representation.
[44:44]SPEAKER_08:What's the purpose for you asking me to spell his name?
[44:46]SPEAKER_08:Are you acting like you don't know him?
[44:49]SPEAKER_01:Form, move, strike, argumentative, and irrelevant as worded.
[44:53]SPEAKER_01:Mr. Edwards, you know that there are various standing orders, if not in this case, in various other cases that specifically describe the protections of the Fifth Amendment.
[45:04]SPEAKER_01:Federal courts have ordered that...
[45:07]SPEAKER_01:Certain questions that you are asking shall not be answered or Mr. Epstein would risk losing his Fifth Amendment right.
[45:15]SPEAKER_01:No, I understand that.
[45:16]SPEAKER_00:It's definitely still people's names.
[45:17]SPEAKER_01:Wait a second.
[45:18]SPEAKER_01:Under the United States Constitution, a lot of these questions here today that you're asking have already been ruled on by various courts.
[45:27]SPEAKER_01:that the Fifth Amendment protects any response there too.
[45:30]SPEAKER_01:So I would like it, I'm giving you some leeway here with regard to these argumentative questions.
[45:35]SPEAKER_01:We've already, and I'm not obviously testifying for the witness, but we've already handled a lot of these issues in court, and we've already adjourned one deposition for being argumentative, and I think you understand what the court said there, so...
[45:50]SPEAKER_01:Having said that, and I understand that you have a job to do, but having said that, I would like to caution you professionally that if you continue with the argumentative questions, I am going to have to terminate this deposition.
[46:03]SPEAKER_08:Do what you have to do, Mr. Pike.
[46:05]SPEAKER_08:I completely understand.
[46:08]SPEAKER_08:We're here today.
[46:09]SPEAKER_08:Mr. Brunel is a...
[46:10]SPEAKER_01:I'm sorry, just go ahead.
[46:11]SPEAKER_01:I want the court to know that we're here today to allow you to ask your questions, but the harassing and argumentative tone is not going to be tolerated.
[46:19]SPEAKER_08:So just go ahead and proceed.
[46:20]SPEAKER_08:There's a video.
[46:21]SPEAKER_08:We can show the court the tone.
[46:23]SPEAKER_08:It's obviously not harassing.
[46:24]SPEAKER_08:That's fine.
[46:26]SPEAKER_08:Mr. Brunel is a longtime friend of yours, right?
[46:30]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions to this lawsuit.
[46:33]SPEAKER_03:However, today, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions that may be relevant to this lawsuit, and I must accept their advice or risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[46:46]SPEAKER_08:You know him as somebody who has been caught engaging in sex with underage minors in the past.
[46:54]SPEAKER_08:Is that correct?
[46:57]SPEAKER_08:You'll have to repeat the question, sorry.
[46:58]SPEAKER_08:You know Mr. Brunel is somebody who has been caught engaging in sex with minors in the past, is that correct?
[47:07]SPEAKER_03:Sure.
[47:08]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[47:12]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit, and I must accept their advice or risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[47:24]SPEAKER_03:As your firm has been described by the U.S. Attorney as a criminal enterprise and part of one of the largest frauds in Florida's history.
[47:34]SPEAKER_03:It specifically said you've been fabricating, the law firm was fabricating multiple cases involving sexual, of a sexual nature in order to fleece unsuspecting investors out of millions of dollars.
[47:45]SPEAKER_03:Out of millions of dollars, including mail fraud, wire fraud, and money laundering.
[47:49]SPEAKER_03:So unfortunately, though, I'd like to answer all your questions here today.
[47:53]SPEAKER_03:I must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fourteenth Amendment, and Fifth Amendment right.
[47:57]SPEAKER_08:And you were involved in a modeling business with him called MC Squared.
[48:02]SPEAKER_08:Is that correct?
[48:05]SPEAKER_08:Again?
[48:06]SPEAKER_08:You were involved in a modeling agency with Mr. Brunel called MC Squared.
[48:15]SPEAKER_08:Involved means what?
[48:16]SPEAKER_08:Sorry.
[48:16]SPEAKER_08:What do you mean?
[48:18]SPEAKER_08:You tell the jury your involvement with the modeling agency.
[48:20]SPEAKER_08:You can clarify.
[48:21]SPEAKER_08:I'll let you do that.
[48:26]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[48:30]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit, and I must accept their advice or risk losing my Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[48:48]SPEAKER_08:And when you were...
[48:52]SPEAKER_08:being criminally investigated and was in, is it true that you made a personal telephone call to her telling her not to come forward with any of the information she knew?
[49:07]SPEAKER_08:Form.
[49:10]SPEAKER_03:Again?
[49:12]SPEAKER_03:Sorry.
[49:13]SPEAKER_08:When you were being, I'm putting a time frame on it, the time period where you were being criminally investigated.
[49:18]SPEAKER_03:What time frame is that?
[49:20]SPEAKER_08:In her complaint, it's not specific.
[49:24]SPEAKER_08:But at some point, let's just make it whenever.
[49:27]SPEAKER_08:At some point in time, did you place a telephone call to in Australia warning her not to come forward with any information about you engaging in sex with her while she was a minor?
[49:40]SPEAKER_08:Floor.
[49:41]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[49:45]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit, and I must accept their advice or risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[49:56]SPEAKER_08:With respect to underage females, isn't it true that you have made the statement, in quotes, the younger the better?
[50:09]SPEAKER_03:Again, as your firm has been described by the current US Attorney,
[50:14]SPEAKER_03:as a criminal enterprise involved in mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering, and specifically crafting, fabricating multiple cases of a sexual nature against people like me and others.
[50:28]SPEAKER_03:In order to fleece many, many unsuspecting investors out of millions of dollars, I would like to answer your questions here today, Mr. Edwards.
[50:36]SPEAKER_03:But unfortunately, my attorneys have counseled me that I must assert my 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment right, or they will resign.
[50:50]SPEAKER_08:Who are your current employees?
[50:59]SPEAKER_08:Who are your current employees?
[51:01]SPEAKER_08:People who work for you that you pay.
[51:02]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[51:08]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions that may be relevant to this lawsuit.
[51:15]SPEAKER_03:I risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[51:20]SPEAKER_03:Accordingly, therefore, I must assert my Fifth Amendment, Sixth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment rights as provided by the U.S. Constitution.
[51:28]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true that you pay your employees to bring you underage minor females for sex?
[51:34]SPEAKER_03:Form argumentative speculation.
[51:36]SPEAKER_03:Mr. Edwards, your firm has been described by the current U.S. attorney as a criminal enterprise.
[51:43]SPEAKER_03:A criminal enterprise.
[51:45]SPEAKER_03:Part of the largest fraud in South Florida's history.
[51:50]SPEAKER_03:Part of that fraud was fabricating fictitious cases against me, excuse me, against people like me of a sexual nature in order to fleece unsuspecting investors out of millions of dollars.
[52:07]SPEAKER_03:Unfortunately, at this time, though I'd like to answer every one of your questions, my attorneys advise me that I must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fourteenth Amendment, and Fifth Amendment rights or risk losing them as my attorneys.
[52:23]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true when underage females were brought to you, you would engage in sex with them and pay them?
[52:31]SPEAKER_01:Form, argument, and harassing.
[52:35]SPEAKER_08:Are you shaking your head to say no?
[52:37]SPEAKER_08:Excuse me?
[52:37]SPEAKER_08:Are you shaking your head to say no?
[52:38]SPEAKER_08:I don't know how to interpret the answer.
[52:40]SPEAKER_01:I'm sorry.
[52:40]SPEAKER_05:I didn't realize I was shaking my head.
[52:41]SPEAKER_01:Okay.
[52:42]SPEAKER_05:One second.
[52:43]SPEAKER_05:I thought he was actually answering a question.
[52:44]SPEAKER_01:Move to strike.
[52:46]SPEAKER_01:The rules are well known to every lawyer who practices in the state of Florida, that it's clear that a nod of the head or a shake of the head is not understood by the record.
[52:56]SPEAKER_01:So, therefore, Mr. Epstein clearly was not responding to one of your questions, and we know that, Mr. Evans.
[53:02]SPEAKER_01:This is on video, Mike.
[53:03]SPEAKER_01:Nonetheless, you know the rules.
[53:05]SPEAKER_01:Nonetheless, if we have a question on the table, would you please repeat it so I can recall it and so Mr. Epstein can endeavor to answer it?
[53:13]SPEAKER_08:Sure, and if it was only a court reporter, I would agree, but the jury's going to see a video, and everybody knows commonly, somebody shakes their head, they're saying, no, if that was the answer, I wanted to give them a chance to elaborate on it.
[53:23]SPEAKER_08:That's it.
[53:25]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true that when underage females would come to your house, you would engage in sexual activity with them and then pay them?
[53:35]SPEAKER_01:Same objections.
[53:39]SPEAKER_03:Unfortunately, I'd like to answer that question today, but my attorneys have counseled me that I must assert my Sixth Amendment right, my Fifth Amendment right, and my Fourteenth Amendment right under the U.S. Constitution.
[53:52]SPEAKER_03:The fact that your firm has been described as a criminal enterprise and part of one of the largest frauds in South Florida's history...
[54:03]SPEAKER_03:Part of that fraud has been described as fabricating cases of a sexual nature against me and others in order to fleece unsuspecting investors out of millions of dollars.
[54:15]SPEAKER_03:I would like to answer that question, Mr. Edwards.
[54:18]SPEAKER_03:However, today, I must assert my 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment right.
[54:24]SPEAKER_08:In addition to paying these underage females for sexual activity, you also paid them to bring their underage friends to you to also engage in sexual activity with.
[54:37]SPEAKER_08:Is that correct?
[54:39]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[54:43]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I may not, and they have advised me I must assert my Sixth Amendment right, my Fifth Amendment right, and my Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[55:00]SPEAKER_08:You would pay underage females $200 to $300 for engaging in sexual activity with you or for procuring another underage female to engage in sexual activity with.
[55:12]SPEAKER_01:Is that correct?
[55:13]SPEAKER_01:Form, move to strike, assumes facts not in evidence, and calls for a legal conclusion as well-argumented.
[55:21]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[55:26]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions that may be relevant to this lawsuit, and I must accept their advice or risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[55:39]SPEAKER_03:Accordingly, therefore, I must assert my constitutional rights as guaranteed by the Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
[55:47]SPEAKER_08:Would you agree that your scheme was devised to coerce these underage minors to bring you as many other underage minors as were available for you to engage in sexual activity with?
[56:04]SPEAKER_03:Can you repeat the question?
[56:07]SPEAKER_08:Yeah.
[56:12]SPEAKER_08:Would you agree that your scheme was devised
[56:18]SPEAKER_08:to coerce underage girls into bringing as many other underage girls to you as were available for sexual purposes.
[56:35]SPEAKER_03:Did you say for sexual purposes?
[56:38]SPEAKER_05:Yes, for sexual purposes.
[56:40]SPEAKER_03:I'm not surprised.
[56:41]SPEAKER_03:Since your firm was described
[56:44]SPEAKER_03:as perpetrating one of the largest frauds in Florida's history by crafting fabricated sexual harassment cases against people like me and others in order to fleece unsuspecting investors out of millions of dollars, I would like to answer that question.
[57:00]SPEAKER_03:However, today, my attorneys have advised me I must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment right under the U.S. Constitution.
[57:09]SPEAKER_03:And if I don't do so, I risk losing effective representation.
[57:16]SPEAKER_08:Utilizing this method of using underage minors to bring you other underage minors, you were able to engage in sex with hundreds of underage minor females.
[57:30]SPEAKER_08:Is that true?
[57:31]SPEAKER_01:Form, argumentative, harassing, calls for speculation.
[57:37]SPEAKER_03:Since, Mr. Edwards, your firm has been described as a criminal enterprise by the U.S. Attorney, and as part of the largest fraud in South Florida's history, and as part of the fraud fabricating malicious cases of sexual harassment and other cases of sexual nature against people like me and others, though I'd like to answer that question today, my attorneys who advise me must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fourteenth Amendment, and Fifth Amendment rights of the U.S. Constitution.
[58:07]SPEAKER_03:Though I believe you know I'd really like to answer your questions, but at this moment, if I don't assert those rights, I risk having my attorneys resign.
[58:16]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true that with this method, you were able to interact sexually with underage girls every single day?
[58:23]SPEAKER_01:Go ahead.
[58:23]SPEAKER_01:Oh, sorry.
[58:28]SPEAKER_08:Can you repeat it?
[58:32]SPEAKER_08:Sure.
[58:33]SPEAKER_08:With this method of using...
[58:35]SPEAKER_03:This method being what?
[58:36]Sorry?
[58:37]SPEAKER_08:your method of using underage minors to bring you other underage minors for sex.
[58:43]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true that that method resulted in you engaging in sexual activity with underage minors on an everyday basis?
[58:55]SPEAKER_03:Your firm has been described by the current U.S. attorney as a criminal enterprise engaged in one of the largest frauds
[59:03]SPEAKER_03:in South Florida's history, and as part of that fraud, creating, fabricating malicious cases of sexual nature against people like me and others.
[59:13]SPEAKER_03:So unfortunately, though, I'd like to answer that question today.
[59:16]SPEAKER_03:I must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fourteenth Amendment, and Fifth Amendment rights that my counsel has advised me to do.
[59:23]SPEAKER_03:Though I believe you know I'd really like to answer those questions today, I must assert those rights or risk losing my attorney's representation.
[59:32]SPEAKER_08:To keep track of all of these underage minors, you stored their names and telephone numbers in your home computer, isn't that correct?
[59:39]SPEAKER_01:Form argumentative speculation.
[59:45]SPEAKER_08:Again?
[59:45]SPEAKER_08:Sorry.
[59:47]SPEAKER_08:Are you going to answer the question or just read?
[59:49]SPEAKER_08:If you are going to answer the question, of course, I'll keep reading it as many times.
[59:53]SPEAKER_01:Wait one second.
[59:54]SPEAKER_01:The witness is attempting to answer your question.
[59:56]SPEAKER_01:He asked you to repeat the question.
[59:58]SPEAKER_08:He is?
[59:58]SPEAKER_01:He asked you to repeat the question.
[1:00:02]SPEAKER_08:And I don't mind going through that, Mike, because I do want answers.
[1:00:05]SPEAKER_08:But if I'm going to repeat the question multiple times and still get the same answer, we're just wasting time.
[1:00:09]SPEAKER_08:I'm just trying to stop wasting time repeating questions if I'm getting the same non-responsive answer.
[1:00:16]SPEAKER_01:I understand your intention here.
[1:00:20]SPEAKER_01:However, these questions...
[1:00:24]SPEAKER_01:are similar in nature, if not identical, to various questions that you've asked in other cases.
[1:00:31]SPEAKER_01:So you coming here today is of no surprise that Mr. Epstein is required to invoke his Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment rights underneath the United States Constitution.
[1:00:42]SPEAKER_01:I understand that.
[1:00:42]SPEAKER_01:If you came here today thinking that you were going to pull a rabbit out of the hat and get, you know...
[1:00:48]SPEAKER_01:waive Mr. Epstein was going to waive his 5th, 6th and 14th amendment rights to the United States Constitution at least not today that will not be occurring isn't it true that to keep track of the names and phone numbers of these underage
[1:01:07]SPEAKER_08:minor females, you interacted with sexually, you stored those names and phone numbers in your home computer.
[1:01:16]SPEAKER_03:Thank you.
[1:01:17]SPEAKER_03:I've heard the question now.
[1:01:18]SPEAKER_03:So it doesn't surprise, again, I've now heard your question and the fact that your firm has been described as a criminal enterprise by the current U.S. Attorney in South Florida and part of one of the largest frauds in Florida's history.
[1:01:35]SPEAKER_03:It is reported that your firm fabricated malicious cases of a sexual nature against people and against me in order to fleece unsuspecting investors out of millions of dollars.
[1:01:48]SPEAKER_03:Unfortunately, though, I'd like to answer each one of your questions today, Mr. Edwards.
[1:01:53]SPEAKER_03:My attorneys have advised me that I must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[1:02:00]SPEAKER_03:So though I'd like to answer, I must assert those rights or risk having my attorneys resign.
[1:02:07]SPEAKER_03:Do you know ***?
[1:02:11]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[1:02:17]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit and must accept their advice or risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[1:02:29]SPEAKER_08:Is it true that you employed to contact underage minor females and make them appointments to be at your house?
[1:02:43]SPEAKER_08:Sorry, again.
[1:02:44]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true that you employed for the purposes of contacting underage minor females and scheduling them appointments to be at your house?
[1:02:57]SPEAKER_03:The current U.S. attorney has described your law firm, Mr. Edwards, as a criminal enterprise engaged in one of the largest frauds in South Florida's history.
[1:03:08]SPEAKER_03:It has been reported that your firm fabricated multiple cases of a sexual nature against me and others in order to fleece unsuspecting investors out of millions and millions of dollars.
[1:03:20]SPEAKER_03:So, unfortunately, I'd like to answer every one of your questions today.
[1:03:23]SPEAKER_03:My attorneys have counseled me that today I must assert my 6th Amendment, 5th Amendment, and 14th Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[1:03:32]SPEAKER_03:Though I believe you know I'd like to answer those questions, but today, at this moment, I must assert those rights or risk having my attorneys resign.
[1:03:40]SPEAKER_05:Tell the jury how you know... Or move to strike.
[1:03:48]SPEAKER_08:Move to strike my question?
[1:03:52]SPEAKER_08:On what basis?
[1:03:53]SPEAKER_01:Do I have to state a basis?
[1:03:55]SPEAKER_01:Usually I'm just required to state form.
[1:03:58]SPEAKER_01:Done more than that today.
[1:03:59]SPEAKER_01:If I went on a diatribe of explaining, you know, what's confusing, compound, irrelevant, then you would blame me for testifying for the witness.
[1:04:07]SPEAKER_01:I just moved the strike to question.
[1:04:12]SPEAKER_08:Make sure we mark that somewhere on this transcript somehow.
[1:04:18]SPEAKER_08:Tell the jury I, you know, moved the strike.
[1:04:24]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[1:04:27]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit and must accept their advice or risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[1:04:38]SPEAKER_03:Accordingly, I assert my Fifth Amendment, Sixth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment right under the U.S. Constitution.
[1:04:45]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true that you brought her to this country when she was underage and made her your sex slave?
[1:04:56]SPEAKER_08:And you have bragged about this.
[1:04:58]SPEAKER_01:Form argumentative compound harassing and calls for speculation.
[1:05:07]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[1:05:12]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit, and I must accept this advice and risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[1:05:23]SPEAKER_03:However, I'd like...
[1:05:25]SPEAKER_03:So I'm clear the question was, did I bring her here?
[1:05:27]SPEAKER_03:I want...
[1:05:28]SPEAKER_03:So we're clear.
[1:05:29]SPEAKER_03:What was...
[1:05:30]SPEAKER_03:Specifically what you...
[1:05:31]SPEAKER_07:Your answer's fine.
[1:05:34]SPEAKER_03:Okay.
[1:05:34]SPEAKER_08:Is it true that you...
[1:05:38]SPEAKER_08:demanded numerous underage minor females to have sex with ****** inside your home while you watched masturbating.
[1:05:54]SPEAKER_01:Same with judgements.
[1:05:57]SPEAKER_08:Okay.
[1:05:57]SPEAKER_03:You have to repeat the question so I'm clear.
[1:06:00]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true that you have ordered several underage minor females to have sex with ******
[1:06:07]SPEAKER_08:in your home while you watched masturbating.
[1:06:15]SPEAKER_03:The current U.S. attorney has described your firm, Mr. Edwards, as a criminal enterprise involved in mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering, and in fact fabricating multiple cases of a sexual nature against me,
[1:06:33]SPEAKER_03:Others, in order to fleece unsuspecting investors in South Florida out of millions and millions of dollars.
[1:06:39]SPEAKER_03:Unfortunately, though I'd like to answer each one of your questions here today, my attorneys advise me that I must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fourteenth Amendment, and Fifth Amendment right under the U.S. Constitution.
[1:06:50]SPEAKER_03:Though I believe you know that I'd like to answer your questions, but at this moment I must assert those rights or risk having my attorneys resign.
[1:06:59]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true that with either of these underage minor females that was brought to your house, your...
[1:07:09]SPEAKER_08:method of sexually exploiting them was nearly identical.
[1:07:14]SPEAKER_08:Is that correct?
[1:07:15]SPEAKER_01:Objection.
[1:07:16]SPEAKER_01:Argumentative, confusing, over-broad, and vague.
[1:07:20]SPEAKER_08:I don't understand the question.
[1:07:22]SPEAKER_08:Okay.
[1:07:24]SPEAKER_08:When a 14 or 15-year-old would be let into your bedroom, you would appear from the shower first, usually naked.
[1:07:31]SPEAKER_08:Is that correct?
[1:07:32]SPEAKER_01:Objection.
[1:07:33]SPEAKER_01:Argumentative, assumes facts not in evidence, and harassing.
[1:07:41]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[1:07:45]SPEAKER_03:However, today, my attorneys have advised me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit.
[1:07:50]SPEAKER_03:I must accept their advice of disclosing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[1:07:55]SPEAKER_03:Accordingly, therefore, I must assert my constitutional rights against the Fifth Amendment, Sixth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
[1:08:07]SPEAKER_01:Can we go off the record for a second?
[1:08:10]SPEAKER_06:If it's necessary.
[1:08:11]SPEAKER_01:Yeah, let's go off the record.
[1:08:17]SPEAKER_01:Want to take a break or something?
[1:08:24]SPEAKER_00:We're back on the video record at 12.44 p.m.
[1:08:33]SPEAKER_04:Can you tell me what my last question is, or is that?
[1:08:37]SPEAKER_04:It's okay, I can pick up.
[1:08:39]SPEAKER_10:Don't worry about it.
[1:08:41]SPEAKER_10:I can tell you too.
[1:08:53]SPEAKER_10:Okay.
[1:08:53]SPEAKER_10:All right.
[1:08:54]SPEAKER_10:Okay, a 14 or 15-year-old would be led into your bedroom, you would appear from the shower first, usually, and you would give his back to him without your objection.
[1:09:02]SPEAKER_10:Okay.
[1:09:02]SPEAKER_10:Thank you.
[1:09:05]SPEAKER_08:And after appearing from the shower naked, you would order the underage minor female to disrobe.
[1:09:12]SPEAKER_08:Isn't that true?
[1:09:13]SPEAKER_08:Same objections.
[1:09:18]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[1:09:21]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit and must accept their advice or risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation.
[1:09:32]SPEAKER_03:Excuse me.
[1:09:33]SPEAKER_08:You would then order them to, or order her to begin providing you a massage, is that correct?
[1:09:42]SPEAKER_08:For me.
[1:09:47]SPEAKER_03:Excuse me.
[1:09:49]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit, and I'd like to answer each and every one of your questions today, Mr. Edwards.
[1:09:56]SPEAKER_03:However, my attorneys have told me that I cannot do that today.
[1:10:00]SPEAKER_03:I must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution or risk losing my counsel.
[1:10:09]SPEAKER_03:Therefore, I'm going to assert those rights as guaranteed by the Fifth Amendment, Sixth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment.
[1:10:15]SPEAKER_08:You would then roll over and begin masturbating.
[1:10:18]SPEAKER_08:Is that correct?
[1:10:19]SPEAKER_08:Form.
[1:10:23]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[1:10:29]SPEAKER_03:It's my understanding that the current U.S. attorney has described your law firm as a criminal enterprise.
[1:10:36]SPEAKER_03:Yours and Mr. Jaffe's firm is a criminal enterprise and part of the largest fraud in Florida's history.
[1:10:44]SPEAKER_03:Excuse me.
[1:10:46]SPEAKER_03:fabricating malicious cases of a sexual nature against me and others in order to fleece investors out of millions of dollars through bogus schemes, including conspiracy, excuse me, to commit mail fraud, wire fraud, and money laundering.
[1:11:10]SPEAKER_03:So though I'd like to answer each and every one of your questions here today,
[1:11:14]SPEAKER_03:My attorneys have counseled me that I cannot and must assert my Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[1:11:23]SPEAKER_08:You would then rub the underage minor female's vagina and or insert your fingers into her vagina.
[1:11:31]SPEAKER_08:Is that correct?
[1:11:36]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[1:11:40]SPEAKER_03:Unfortunately, today, my attorneys have advised me I cannot and must assert my rights under the U.S. Constitution, under the Fifth Amendment, Sixth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, especially since your firm has been described as a criminal enterprise by the current U.S. attorney, perpetrating one of the largest frauds in South Florida's history.
[1:12:04]SPEAKER_03:Fleecing investors out of millions of dollars by fabricating malicious cases, malicious cases of a sexual nature against people like me and others.
[1:12:15]SPEAKER_08:And with many of these underage minors, you would use vibrators on them.
[1:12:20]SPEAKER_08:Is that correct?
[1:12:26]SPEAKER_03:I would like to respond to that question as I'd like to respond to all your other questions today.
[1:12:29]SPEAKER_03:However, my attorneys have counseled me.
[1:12:32]SPEAKER_03:Excuse me.
[1:12:33]SPEAKER_03:then I must assert my Sixth Amendment rights, my Fifth Amendment rights, and my Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[1:12:42]SPEAKER_08:And with many of these underage minors, you would give and or receive oral sex from them.
[1:12:49]SPEAKER_08:Is that correct?
[1:12:53]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[1:12:57]SPEAKER_03:I'd like to answer each and every one of your questions.
[1:12:59]SPEAKER_03:However...
[1:13:01]SPEAKER_03:My attorneys have counseled me that today I must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution, especially since your firm has been described by the current U.S. attorney as perpetrating one of the largest frauds in Florida's history by fabricating malicious cases of a sexual nature against me and others.
[1:13:30]SPEAKER_08:In June of 2008, you pled guilty to a couple felonies, right?
[1:13:36]SPEAKER_01:Fuck.
[1:13:37]SPEAKER_01:Vague and confusing.
[1:13:43]SPEAKER_03:Again?
[1:13:44]SPEAKER_08:In June of 2008, you pled guilty to two felonies.
[1:13:49]SPEAKER_08:Is that correct?
[1:13:50]SPEAKER_01:Same objection.
[1:13:53]SPEAKER_08:Yes.
[1:13:55]SPEAKER_08:And...
[1:13:57]SPEAKER_08:what were those felonies that you pled guilty to?
[1:14:02]SPEAKER_03:Solicitation of prostitutes.
[1:14:04]SPEAKER_03:Not underage prostitutes, but simply prostitutes.
[1:14:08]SPEAKER_03:Solicitation of prostitutes and one count of procuring a minor for underage sex.
[1:14:18]SPEAKER_08:And you've taken the fifth as to questions related to many of these underage minors, but the underage minors that were the victims in the cases where you pled guilty were ******.
[1:14:35]SPEAKER_01:Was that one of them?
[1:14:37]SPEAKER_01:Form mischaracterizes the witness's testimony, causes for a legal conclusion.
[1:14:44]SPEAKER_08:Again?
[1:14:45]SPEAKER_08:What was the name of any of the underage minors that were the subject of the criminal charges to which you pled guilty?
[1:15:02]SPEAKER_08:I don't know.
[1:15:06]SPEAKER_08:So tell me about those charges.
[1:15:11]SPEAKER_08:What were the... What was the...
[1:15:15]SPEAKER_08:For the allegations in those charges?
[1:15:17]SPEAKER_03:For them.
[1:15:18]SPEAKER_03:Solicitation of prostitution.
[1:15:21]SPEAKER_03:Okay.
[1:15:22]SPEAKER_03:Not underage prostitution, prostitution.
[1:15:25]SPEAKER_08:Were the victims, or the prostitutes, as you would say, were they minors?
[1:15:32]SPEAKER_08:For them.
[1:15:34]SPEAKER_03:I pled guilty to solicitation of prostitution.
[1:15:38]SPEAKER_08:Okay, so tell me what those cases were about.
[1:15:40]SPEAKER_08:What happened?
[1:15:40]SPEAKER_08:I...
[1:15:43]SPEAKER_03:I can't tell you any more than that.
[1:15:45]SPEAKER_05:You don't know what you pled guilty to?
[1:15:47]SPEAKER_05:I just told you.
[1:15:48]SPEAKER_05:I'm going to object to form that's asked and answered.
[1:15:52]SPEAKER_08:Do you know what you pled guilty to?
[1:15:53]SPEAKER_08:The facts.
[1:15:54]SPEAKER_03:Solicitation of prostitution.
[1:15:56]SPEAKER_08:I understand that's the charge.
[1:15:57]SPEAKER_08:What were the underlying facts?
[1:15:59]SPEAKER_08:Sorry.
[1:15:59]SPEAKER_08:What did you do?
[1:16:00]SPEAKER_08:Did you pull up in a car, talk to the person?
[1:16:02]SPEAKER_08:Did they come over to your house?
[1:16:03]SPEAKER_08:How did you get them?
[1:16:04]SPEAKER_08:Those kind of things.
[1:16:05]SPEAKER_08:Tell the jury.
[1:16:06]SPEAKER_08:What were the underlying facts about the charge that you pled guilty to?
[1:16:10]SPEAKER_08:Form moved to strike.
[1:16:11]SPEAKER_03:I don't know.
[1:16:13]SPEAKER_08:You don't know what you pled guilty to?
[1:16:15]SPEAKER_03:I pled guilty to the solicitation of prostitution.
[1:16:19]SPEAKER_03:Not underage prostitution, but prostitution.
[1:16:21]SPEAKER_08:Okay.
[1:16:22]SPEAKER_08:My understanding from reading the court file is that one of those females was .
[1:16:27]SPEAKER_08:Do you know who that is?
[1:16:33]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions to this lawsuit.
[1:16:37]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any of these questions today.
[1:16:44]SPEAKER_03:So accordingly, I must assert my constitutional rights under the 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendments of the U.S. Constitution.
[1:16:51]SPEAKER_08:You're aware that ****** is somebody that alleges she was at your house on more than 100 occasions.
[1:16:57]SPEAKER_08:Is that true?
[1:16:59]SPEAKER_08:Four.
[1:17:01]SPEAKER_03:Can you repeat the question, sir?
[1:17:03]SPEAKER_08:Are you aware that ****** is a female that alleges that when she was...
[1:17:10]SPEAKER_08:Underage, she was at your house on more than 100 occasions.
[1:17:13]SPEAKER_08:Form, predicate.
[1:17:15]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions to this lawsuit, Mr. Edwards.
[1:17:20]SPEAKER_03:However, today, my attorneys have counseled me that I must respond by invoking my Fifth Amendment right, my Sixth Amendment right, and my Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution, or risk losing them as my attorneys.
[1:17:35]SPEAKER_03:Excuse me.
[1:17:36]SPEAKER_03:So therefore, I must assert those rights.
[1:17:39]SPEAKER_08:And you understand that...
[1:17:43]SPEAKER_08:Her complaint was that Epstein turned *** onto her stomach on the massage bed and inserted his penis into her vagina.
[1:17:51]SPEAKER_08:*** stated Epstein began to pump his penis in her vagina and she became upset over this.
[1:17:58]SPEAKER_08:She said her head was being held against the bed forcibly as he continued to pump inside her while she screamed no.
[1:18:06]SPEAKER_08:Are you aware of those allegations?
[1:18:09]SPEAKER_08:Form, predicate.
[1:18:10]SPEAKER_03:I'm sorry, did you say there was a complaint?
[1:18:13]SPEAKER_08:It's in the incident report that led to a charging document that led to a charge that you have pled guilty to.
[1:18:21]SPEAKER_08:Are you aware of that information coming from...
[1:18:26]SPEAKER_01:I'm sorry, Mr. Allen.
[1:18:28]SPEAKER_01:What are you reading from?
[1:18:30]SPEAKER_08:The 87-page Palm Beach Police Department incident report where there are numerous underage females describing their interaction with Mr. Epstein at his house.
[1:18:43]SPEAKER_08:I'm reading specifically from page 41 related to who was one of the victims pled guilty to.
[1:18:51]SPEAKER_01:Is that the same document that you're seeking production of in this same exact case?
[1:18:58]SPEAKER_06:I don't know what you're talking about.
[1:19:01]SPEAKER_06:This is something from the state attorney's file.
[1:19:06]SPEAKER_01:Okay.
[1:19:07]SPEAKER_01:Sorry, what's the question?
[1:19:09]SPEAKER_08:Are you aware of that allegation?
[1:19:12]SPEAKER_08:What I just read to you.
[1:19:14]SPEAKER_03:I intend to, I'd like to answer that question.
[1:19:16]SPEAKER_03:But however, today my attorneys advise me I must assert my 5th Amendment, 6th Amendment, and 14th Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[1:19:29]SPEAKER_08:Assuming your attorneys have advised you that because of race judicata, double jeopardy, you cannot be charged for any crimes that you have already pled guilty to related to...
[1:19:40]SPEAKER_08:So I'd like you to just explain to the jury in your words, or your version of the story, what was your interaction with at your house when she was a minor?
[1:19:50]SPEAKER_01:Object to form, as worded, could disclose attorney-client communications.
[1:20:00]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[1:20:06]SPEAKER_03:I'd like to answer each one of your questions today.
[1:20:08]SPEAKER_03:However, my attorneys have counseled me that I may not
[1:20:11]SPEAKER_03:They've advised me that I must assert my Fifth Amendment, Sixth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[1:20:19]SPEAKER_03:Therefore, if I don't, I risk losing their counsel.
[1:20:24]SPEAKER_03:Therefore, I must assert those rights here today, Mr. Edwards.
[1:20:28]SPEAKER_03:Are you aware that...
[1:20:30]SPEAKER_08:Advise police that she was ripped and torn in her vagina area and had difficulty walking to the car after this episode where you forcibly inserted your penis into her vagina.
[1:20:42]SPEAKER_01:Objection.
[1:20:42]SPEAKER_01:Relevance.
[1:20:43]SPEAKER_01:Argumentative.
[1:20:45]SPEAKER_01:Compound.
[1:20:46]SPEAKER_01:Harassment.
[1:20:52]SPEAKER_08:The question was, the question was, are you aware?
[1:20:56]SPEAKER_08:Alexander Paul.
[1:20:59]SPEAKER_03:The current U.S. Attorney, since he's described your firm as a criminal enterprise,
[1:21:07]SPEAKER_03:and part of one of the largest frauds in Florida's history by fabricating malicious cases of a sexual nature against people like me and others, and fleecing investors out of millions of dollars by using means described in the complaint against your firm, including mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering.
[1:21:35]SPEAKER_03:I'm afraid today, though I'd like to answer each one of your questions, my attorneys have counseled me that I must not.
[1:21:42]SPEAKER_03:I must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[1:21:48]SPEAKER_03:And though I believe you know I'd like to answer those questions, I must assert those rights and risk losing my attorney's representation.
[1:21:56]SPEAKER_03:Do you know...
[1:22:07]SPEAKER_03:Spell it for me, please.
[1:22:08]SPEAKER_08:I don't know how to spell her name, but do you know...
[1:22:12]SPEAKER_08:I don't know that she ever would have spelled her name for you.
[1:22:15]SPEAKER_08:Form, name, and strike.
[1:22:19]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[1:22:25]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I may not provide answers today, though I'd like to.
[1:22:33]SPEAKER_03:And I must, in fact, take their advice or risk losing their representation.
[1:22:38]SPEAKER_03:So therefore, I must assert those rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[1:22:41]SPEAKER_08:Do you know the names of any of the females that you allegedly solicited for prostitution and pled guilty to?
[1:22:55]SPEAKER_03:Relevance.
[1:22:56]SPEAKER_03:Sitting here today, no, I do not.
[1:23:04]SPEAKER_08:You asked me to spell his name.
[1:23:06]SPEAKER_08:That's somebody that your attorneys took her deposition about a year and a half ago.
[1:23:14]SPEAKER_08:Does that help to refresh your recollection?
[1:23:17]SPEAKER_03:I'd like to answer that question, but today, according to my attorneys, I must assert my Fifth Amendment, Sixth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[1:23:27]SPEAKER_03:I must accept their advice or risk losing my Sixth Amendment right to effective representation, Mr. Edwards.
[1:23:33]SPEAKER_03:So though I'd like to answer the question, today I must assert those rights.
[1:23:39]SPEAKER_08:There's another victim.
[1:23:40]SPEAKER_08:Her name is ****** that was listed as one of the females at your house that you pled guilty to the solicitation of.
[1:23:53]SPEAKER_08:And I'd like to ask you if you remember her.
[1:23:58]SPEAKER_08:Form confusing compound.
[1:24:03]SPEAKER_08:I don't know her first name.
[1:24:04]SPEAKER_08:It's initials, last name.
[1:24:11]SPEAKER_03:Same objection.
[1:24:12]SPEAKER_03:I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit.
[1:24:15]SPEAKER_03:However, at the present time, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit, and I must accept their advice or risk losing my right to effective representation.
[1:24:28]SPEAKER_03:Therefore, though I'd like to answer the questions, I must assert those rights today.
[1:24:42]SPEAKER_08:With each case that results in a charge as... Is there some water?
[1:24:51]SPEAKER_03:Sorry.
[1:24:56]SPEAKER_03:I'm sorry.
[1:24:56]SPEAKER_03:We're stopping again?
[1:24:57]SPEAKER_03:Can I get some water?
[1:24:59]SPEAKER_03:You don't have to stop.
[1:25:01]SPEAKER_03:Mr. Jaffee, could you pass some water?
[1:25:03]SPEAKER_00:Is there water?
[1:25:05]SPEAKER_03:No water.
[1:25:07]SPEAKER_03:I'll go.
[1:25:09]SPEAKER_08:With each...
[1:25:11]SPEAKER_08:conviction, charge, or with each charge that leads to a conviction, there are facts and circumstances that lead up to that plea of guilty.
[1:25:22]SPEAKER_08:What are the facts and circumstances that led to you pleading guilty to the two felonies that you described?
[1:25:30]SPEAKER_01:Form, overbroad, compound, confusing, calls for a legal conclusion.
[1:25:37]SPEAKER_03:I'd like to respond to that question.
[1:25:40]SPEAKER_03:I'd like to respond to that question, but today my attorneys have advised me I must assert my Fifth Amendment, Sixth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment rights to the U.S. Constitution or risk losing effective representation.
[1:25:53]SPEAKER_03:Accordingly, I must assert my constitutional rights as guaranteed by the Constitution.
[1:25:58]SPEAKER_08:Just so we're clear, because your attorney made an objection that it was unclear, and then you invoked your Fifth Amendment rights.
[1:26:04]SPEAKER_08:I'm sorry.
[1:26:04]SPEAKER_08:I'm talking about the cases where you've already pled guilty.
[1:26:07]SPEAKER_08:You can't be charged again.
[1:26:09]SPEAKER_08:What were the facts and circumstances that led up to you pleading guilty to these felonies?
[1:26:15]SPEAKER_03:I've answered the question, I think.
[1:26:17]SPEAKER_03:Same objection, ask and answer.
[1:26:21]SPEAKER_08:Okay.
[1:26:21]Okay.
[1:26:24]SPEAKER_08:And just so the jury understands, these three females that were the subject of the guilty pleas in state court were procured by your method of having underage minor females locate other underage minor females and bring them to your house.
[1:26:43]SPEAKER_08:Isn't that correct?
[1:26:44]SPEAKER_01:Objection.
[1:26:45]SPEAKER_01:Argumentative.
[1:26:46]SPEAKER_01:Compound.
[1:26:46]SPEAKER_01:Harassment.
[1:26:47]SPEAKER_01:Assumes facts, not in evidence.
[1:26:49]SPEAKER_01:You'll have to repeat the strike.
[1:26:50]SPEAKER_03:You'll have to repeat the question.
[1:26:52]Okay.
[1:26:57]SPEAKER_08:are all people that were, at the time you engaged in sexual activity with them, were underage and were brought by other underage minor females.
[1:27:07]SPEAKER_08:Is that true?
[1:27:08]SPEAKER_08:Same objections incorporated.
[1:27:14]SPEAKER_01:As well as the motion to strike.
[1:27:22]SPEAKER_03:I don't understand.
[1:27:23]SPEAKER_03:I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.
[1:27:25]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true that you used underage minor females to bring other underage minor females to your house for sex?
[1:27:33]SPEAKER_08:Ask and answer.
[1:27:36]SPEAKER_01:Way earlier on.
[1:27:39]SPEAKER_01:You don't understand the question, so I'm going through the progression.
[1:27:42]SPEAKER_03:Not a problem.
[1:27:42]SPEAKER_01:But it is ask and answer.
[1:27:46]SPEAKER_03:As your firm, Mr. Edwards and Mr. Jaffe, have been described by the U.S. Attorney...
[1:27:51]SPEAKER_03:as perpetrating one of the largest frauds in South Florida's history by crafting malicious cases of a sexual nature against people like me and others in order to fleece using bogus schemes, in the U.S. Attorney's words, investment schemes.
[1:28:08]SPEAKER_03:Unfortunately, though, I'd like to answer every one of your questions if I'm able.
[1:28:11]SPEAKER_03:My attorneys advise me I must assert my Sixth Amendment, Fourteenth Amendment, and Fifth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[1:28:20]SPEAKER_03:Therefore, at the moment, I cannot answer that question.
[1:28:22]SPEAKER_08:The acts related to your guilty plea occurred at your Palm Beach house.
[1:28:30]SPEAKER_08:Is that correct?
[1:28:32]SPEAKER_08:For.
[1:28:36]SPEAKER_08:Again, sorry.
[1:28:37]SPEAKER_08:If you were soliciting prostitutes, it wasn't out on the street, it wasn't in a hotel.
[1:28:42]SPEAKER_08:These were girls that you solicited to be prostitutes at your house in Palm Beach, correct?
[1:28:48]SPEAKER_01:Objection.
[1:28:49]SPEAKER_01:Relevance.
[1:28:50]SPEAKER_01:Argumentative.
[1:28:51]SPEAKER_01:Calls for speculation as worded and assumes facts not in evidence.
[1:28:57]SPEAKER_03:Though I'd like to answer that question, my attorneys today have advised me I cannot answer it today.
[1:29:04]SPEAKER_03:I must assert, they've advised me I must assert my 6th Amendment, 5th Amendment, and 14th Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
[1:29:13]SPEAKER_03:Otherwise, I risk losing their representation.
[1:29:16]SPEAKER_03:So accordingly, I must assert those rights, Mr. Edwards and Mr. Jaffe.
[1:29:20]SPEAKER_08:In what county did you plead guilty to these felony offenses?
[1:29:28]SPEAKER_08:Palm Beach County.
[1:29:31]SPEAKER_08:So these were crimes that occurred here in Palm Beach County?
[1:29:35]SPEAKER_08:Form.
[1:29:35]SPEAKER_08:Is that correct?
[1:29:42]SPEAKER_03:I pled guilty in Palm Beach County.
[1:29:57]SPEAKER_08:Isn't it true that you kept a calendar or schedule
[1:30:03]SPEAKER_08:Okay, check.
[1:30:05]SPEAKER_00:Turn off the video record at 105 feet.