[0:00]Tonight on the rap, millions more Epstein files
[0:19]are released. The US Department of Justice reveals emails between pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, as well as correspondents with Sarah Ferguson and Lord Mandlesson.
[0:30]We'll bring you all the latest as we continue to pour through the files, videos, and photos. The prime minister defends his trip to China after President Trump warns that
[0:41]having closer ties with Beijing is very dangerous. The PM tells us that doing Chinese deals is in the UK's national interest. >> What I don't think >> he's our biggest trade and partner.
[0:53]>> What I don't think um is wise is for the United Kingdom to um stick its head in the sand. >> Also tonight, Donald Trump warns that
[1:04]time is running out for Iran to negotiate a deal on its nuclear program. We analyze the scale of America's military buildup in the Gulf and ask if
[1:13]a new conflict can be avoided. Plus, we reveal how a toxin which causes vomiting and diarrhea is found in batches of baby formula produced by
[1:24]Nestle. We discuss the day's biggest stories with Susie Bonifac and Madlin Grant. Plus, a first look at the front pages of
[1:35]tomorrow's papers, including more details from the Epstein piles. Good evening, Susie Madlin. Welcome to
[1:52]you both. We'll get your take in a moment, but first let's go straight to Washington for the latest on the big developing story tonight, the release of millions more Epstein files. Our US
[2:02]correspondent James Matthews is looking through the documents for us. And James, what have you uncovered so far? >> Yeah, hi Jillian. Quite a bit to go through. More than three million pages,
[2:14]2,000 plus videos, and in terms of the number of images, more than 180,000. This was publication day by the Department of Justice. Belatedly, of
[2:25]course, they all should have been out 6 weeks ago by law, but um there's a lot in there. We have lifted some of the detail and there are some familiar faces
[2:36]in there. Prince Andrew or the man formerly known as Prince Andrew gets a mention. So does Lord Peter Mandlesson. Let me read you Jillian uh a few email
[2:47]exchanges. first of all between Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein. Interesting for a number of reasons. Uh, one of which is the ease of access that Jeffrey
[2:56]Epstein appeared to have to Buckingham Palace. Let's go through just some of the emails. On the 11th of August in
[3:05]2010, Epstein sent an email to former Prince Andrew and he said this. I have a friend who I think you might enjoy having dinner with. She'll be in London
[3:16]20 to 24. And Andrew replied, "Of course, I'm in Geneva until morning of 22nd, but would be delighted to see her. Will she be bringing a message from you? Please give
[3:27]her my contact details to get in touch." He also wrote, "Great. Any other information you might know about her that might be useful to know, like, what
[3:38]have you told her about me? And have you given her my email as well?" Epstein replied, "She's 26, Russian, clever,
[3:47]beautiful, trustworthy, and yes, she has your email." Andrew replied, "That was quick. How are you? Good to be free."
[3:56]And Epstein says, "Great to be free of many things." Now, Jillian, let me read you an email, and this is from Sarah Ferguson. Clearly, Epstein was a friend
[4:08]of the family. Sarah Ferguson, Andrew's ex-wife, of course. She wrote a letter said this. Thank you so much Jeffrey. I had the best discussion with Target on Friday and they want desperately the
[4:19]whole mother's army project. They also want to get behind my entire Sarah Ferguson brand books etc. Tommy Hilfiger wants to build my entire apparel
[4:30]fragrance etc. brand and sell it on QVC. NBC want my mother's army TV show. Ben Silverman wants it. So too does Ryan
[4:42]Serest. In just one week after your lunch, it seems the energy has lifted. I have never been more touched, she says, by a friend's kindness than your
[4:53]compliment to me in front of my girls. And she finishes, thank you, Jeffrey, for being the brother I have always wished for. Lord Mandlesson, I remember their
[5:05]association. Nothing new in the fact that they had a friendship. Mandelson, a visitor to his island, of course, and also a contributor to that notorious
[5:15]Jeffrey Epstein birthday book. Well, uh there are more email discussions taking place between Mandolson and Epstein. Let
[5:25]me read you uh one or two. Jeffrey Epstein wrote to his accountant, "Send 2,000 per month to Ronaldo." Now
[5:36]Ronaldo, it was the then partner of Lord Mandlesson, now husband. The reply from the accountant to Epstein says, "This is
[5:46]this addition to the 13K you wrote in previous email. Please confirm currency we are sending is US dollars. Will this occur on the first of every month? If
[5:58]so, should I start with April now or May? Please advise." Epstein responded saying, "No." after rethinking send $4,000
[6:07]only. Uh so that discussion between Epstein and his accountant. Uh and that essentially was Epstein channeling money to the then partner of Lord Mandlesson
[6:19]at a time when Lord Lord Mandlesson was business secretary of her majesty's government. Uh one thing on Epstein I would mention
[6:29]Julian there is a uh a psychological report more than 80 pages all of them completely redacted. There is a scrap of information and it is this relates to a
[6:41]month before he died in jail was deemed to have taken his own life and it says no significant mental health issues
[6:49]threat to self low. uh and uh he was and that was in July 2019. He took his own
[6:57]life a month later in August 2019. So that just gives you a flavor of some of what we're seeing in this latest trunch of files. >> James, there are references to President
[7:09]Trump in these documents, aren't there? >> There are. And uh it's early, Jillian, and yes, there are references. uh how
[7:20]concrete they are is debatable at this stage. So I won't go into any too much detail but yeah he's mentioned there is
[7:29]the mention of an FBI tip off line and his name is con named in or it's mentioned in conjunction with that. I'll say no more at this stage. I will say uh or I will give you the White House
[7:40]response to uh to that subject matter. They say this, "This production may include fake or falsely submitted images, documents, or videos, as everything that was sent to the FBI by
[7:52]the public was included in the production that is responsive to the act. Some of the documents contain untrue and sensationalist claims against President Trump that were submitted to
[8:03]the FBI right before the 2020 election. To be clear, the claims are unfounded and false. And if they have a shred of credibility, they certainly would have
[8:12]been weaponized against President Trump already. So basically, somebody's phoned up this FBI tip line, said something about Donald Trump. They're saying, "Be
[8:23]very careful because there was a lot of false and sensationalist stuff that was put onto this tip line." >> And James, what does the release of all of these documents actually mean? What
[8:34]are the implications? That will depend frankly Jillian on the subject matter and it's going to take days for all of us to wade through it. I
[8:45]suppose chief among the questions is who is in Jeffrey Epstein's orbit? What was their association? Is there any suggestion that they
[8:56]are associated with criminal wrongdoing actively or or just by enabling him perhaps through their silence? And that
[9:06]will be a question for many people. It will be a question uh for the president, Donald Trump, a former good friend of Jeffrey Epstein. Remember they fell out in the LA naughties, but it will be a
[9:18]question. What was their association? uh did he know about uh Jeffrey Epstein's criminal impropriety and you know to what extent might he have been engaged
[9:30]in it? Why didn't he do anything about it? These are questions I would emphasize that Donald Trump the president emphatically denies any knowledge of Epstein's criminal
[9:41]wrongdoing or any involvement in it. >> James, thank you very much for the moment. Well, let's bring in Susie and Madlin now for their thoughts. 3 million
[9:51]pages of the Epstein Files released today. Your thoughts. >> Absolutely classic media move to do it on a Friday afternoon. Um, and also another classic move. Uh, at the same
[10:02]time, Donald Trump went on his Truth Social and declared some other random stuff about Barack Obama, which everyone had long forgotten about to do with the alleged Russia hoax. He said now he wants Barack Obama arrested for
[10:13]something else entirely. But in in you know doesn't matter how many dead cuts he's going to start throwing out. I think this stuff is still going to take precedence no matter what. I think even Barack Obama is going to go yeah Donald
[10:24]whatever and just be reading the stuff they can find online. So this is this is just going to like James was saying over the next few days as journalists start going through this and they start finding deeper and deeper stuff in there
[10:35]it's just going to >> snowball. Madlin what what is the significance? I mean would you describe this as a bombshell? Well, it's kind of too early to say, but just from what we've been able to see even in the last
[10:46]couple of hours since it landed, potentially very explosive and involving many different, you know, highly significant, influential people around the world. I imagine there'll be a lot of uh very powerful people will be
[10:57]squirming tonight and wonder what else may be found. But it will obviously take some time to go through it. Um, here in Britain, we're a little bit behind the news cycle because we will have gone to press with only a couple of hours
[11:08]because we're dealing with America time. So that makes it even more difficult. But I think that you know just from what we heard the the what I find almost um
[11:18]more alarming than the content is simply the tone of some of these emails an atmosphere of normalized secrecy coziness. And you can kind of tell from
[11:28]the um the tone of the emails between Andrew Mountbatton Windsor and Epstein that this feels like quite a normal thing like kind of routine occurrence like this has happened before. So I just
[11:38]kind of um you know I expect that we are really just scratching the surface at this point >> just to say that uh Andrew Mountbs um quoted as saying I vigorously deny the
[11:49]accusations against me and just because people are unnamed in these communications in these emails it doesn't imply guilt or any wrongdoing. What you can see aside from any
[11:59]allegations made against Andrew Mattbat and Windsor that phrase when he said to Jeffrey Epstein is it good to be free? >> That's enough. You don't need to have any allegations proved or otherwise
[12:11]against the former Prince Andrew to know that means he knows he's talking to a convicted criminal. He knows he was convicted for soliciting a minor for prostitution. Uh he knew he was being
[12:22]investigated which was something that would have covered dozens and dozens of girls probably. and now he knows he's free and he's continuing this relationship. I mean just morally just morally that's bor and that's enough.
[12:34]>> Okay and for the moment thank you. That story is uh featuring on the front of the Sun newspaper with the headline Epstein fixed Russian girl for Andrew.
[12:44]We'll have a full rundown of what's in the rest of the papers at 10. Well, the prime minister was on bullish
[12:57]form today when we spoke to him in Beijing about Donald Trump's warning that having closer ties with China was very dangerous. The prime minister said the US president was probably talking
[13:08]about Canada rather than Britain. He's been speaking to our political editor Beth Rigby and warning there is some flash photography. Starmmer in Shanghai on the second leg
[13:22]of his China tour here to meet student designers who've been tasked with mixing British and Chinese traditions. But this blooming friendship with one superpower
[13:33]triggering the other President Trump. >> What do you think about the UK getting into business with China? Kirst Starmer was in Beijing. >> Well, it's very dangerous for them to do that.
[13:43]>> An intervention the PM could do without and keen to downplay. Are you not worried about Trump's remarks? >> Well, as I say, I think President Trump is coming himself or expected to come in
[13:54]um April. But what I don't think >> he's our biggest trading partner? >> What I don't think um is wise is for the United Kingdom to um stick its head in
[14:04]the sand. China is the second biggest economy in the world. And through this visit, we've opened up lots of opportunities for jobs and wealth creation back in the United Kingdom. But
[14:14]as the US turns ever more unreliable, other allies revisiting that relationship. Do you agree with the Canadian Prime Minister Mark Harney that middle powers need to work together to
[14:26]counter the rise of great powers exercising hard power on all of us? Do you agree with that? >> Well, we're living in a very volatile
[14:34]world. uh my um compass is always the national interest of the United Kingdom and I'm very clear that that means that we uh maintain and build on our close
[14:45]relationship with the US that we build a stronger and close relationship with Europe but that we also are confident and engaging outwardly and that means with China
[14:56]>> and K star with something to show for that engagement. China lifting sanctions on half a dozen parliamentariums banned from China in 2021 for raising human
[15:08]rights abuses against the weager people. You've got those sanctions lifted. >> Well, this has been a real cause for concern across parliament. Um and
[15:17]therefore I did raise it and uh we had a discussion um and as a result it's clear from the Chinese that the restrictions no longer apply and President Xi said
[15:28]what that means is that um all parliamentarians are free to travel to China. The PM in search for common ground, but this relationship characterized by deep differences and
[15:40]disagreements too, not least over the crackdown on political freedom in Hong Kong. Did you ask President Xi to release the British citizen and pro-democracy campaigner Jimmy Lie? Have
[15:51]you specifically asked him to do that? >> Well, I raised a number of sensitive issues, including Jimmy Lie. >> You you you named Jimmy Lie to President Xi specifically. I did. He's languishing
[16:02]in prison. Did you get anywhere on it? Are you anywhere near to him being released? >> I won't go into the details, but um I'm absolutely um clear about um the raising
[16:14]the manner in which we raised it and the importance of raising it. >> But for this selfowed pragmatist, human rights in China not the priority as he
[16:25]looks to drum up business for Britain. 2026, the year of the horse in China and the year of cutting the cost of living for Star back home. >> This is amazing.
[16:36]>> He'll hope this reset with the other world superpower could help, but it's laden with risk. Beth Rigby, Sky News, Shanghai. Well, Saki Starama determined to make
[16:49]that visit to China despite much criticism at least of which from Chem Badino who said that it's the wrong time to go to to China at this point in time
[16:59]and she would not have traveled there. >> Well, it also comes off the back of a few other decisions that seem to suggest a general closer rap with China,
[17:09]including the efforts on the Chaos deal and the agreement to of the new embassy. So, it's kind of not just this this trip, but the stuff that's happening around it. I mean, in terms of what has he achieved from the deal, I mean, he
[17:21]certainly doesn't seem to have come back from the trip with much in the way of investment, even less than what Rachel Reeves managed last time she went there. And yes, sanctions have been lifted on
[17:32]British MPs, but this may well prove to be a precursor to some kind of return visit because the Chinese delegation, no Chinese delegation would be able to probably enter parliament, for example,
[17:43]without the agreement of the speaker. And the speaker of the house would not agree to it if there were still sanctions on MPs >> and and number 10 appears to have left the door open for President Xiinping to visit the United Kingdom, doesn't they?
[17:54]>> Yeah. Well, he's got to >> number 10 aren't aren't ruling it out. >> They're not ruling it out. He's had a state visit not that long ago, I think, when the last queen was still alive. So, I can unless I'm really old, I can
[18:05]remember it happening. I remember some protests maybe. Yeah, it could be 2008. I don't know. Recent to me, but he's he's certainly had one before. Um, but I think the issue is that, you know, these
[18:16]sanctions were completely meaningless because China doesn't even have sanctions legislation and the people who were sanctioned weren't even trading in China. It made no difference to them. It was a complete waste of time. Um and
[18:27]although he has he said they raised the issue of Jimmy Lie, you know, this is a British citizen >> who um runs a newspaper who was in jail for the the crime of journalism in what
[18:38]used to be a British um colony and which was handed back to China on the condition of certain conditions still being met and democracy continuing and it was completely been abandoned. So
[18:49]China did the dirty on that deal. I think what you've got here is you got a bit of rail politique. Kimmy Baden is, you know, has the privilege of being in opposition and can say, well, I would never do that. But if you were the prime
[19:00]minister, it's the national interest to talk to major economies and to have that deal. And the thing that appeals to businesses about China, which you don't have now in America, is that it's
[19:10]stable. And it's horrible to lots of people in lots of ways, and there's a genocide going on, but it's not about to change. And when you're a business, you want to go and invest. You can't do that in America now because as soon as Donald Trump wakes up, everything you did
[19:22]yesterday's out the window. >> And Madlin, what about Donald Trump's take? Because he's saying it's very dangerous for the UK to forge closer ties with with China. So, he's actually angered. >> Well, I think Donald Trump is right. It
[19:32]is very dangerous. And, you know, isn't it astonishing that the de that the British delegation had to basically hire a plane to take them to China because they didn't trust that a governmental plane would not be kind of bugged and
[19:42]tapped? we had to take what one MP referred to as a burner uh plane as well as all the burner phones that people use there. Um but at the same time it's a bit rich coming from President Trump
[19:53]whose actions in re recent weeks have done more than anything I think to hasten um pushing many allies in the direction of China because they fear that they can no longer rely on America as an increasingly flaky ally. So I
[20:04]think he's uh done his bit in this direction. >> And when Saki Starama was questioned as to, you know, what he felt about Donald Trump being angry at him visiting China, he did say that the president will be there himself in in April.
[20:16]>> I think I get to the point where I really want to see Karma when he's asked how do you feel what Donald Trump's just said about this if he just shrugs and goes >> because that's literally where everyone's going. Well, here she just said something else.
[20:27]>> You know, you have to just This is why you can't bank on Trump. He will sign a deal for the Shaos Islands and then call it really stupid. He will criticize you for doing something with a one of his
[20:37]opponents because you're not doing it with him, but actually you can't do business with him because he keeps raising massive tariffs and and harming his own economy. So there comes a point where go >> yeah and where you have to actually look
[20:48]at decisions based on first principles and is it in our national interest, not just does America say that we should do something because that creates a terrible rod for your own back when you're dealing with someone as volatile
[20:59]as Donald Trump. Okay, talking of which, Donald Trump, yes, him again, he's warned Iran that time is running out to negotiate a deal on its nuclear program. He reiterated today that a massive
[21:10]armada is moving quickly with great power, enthusiasm, and purpose towards Iran.
[21:18]We have a uh large armada flotillaa. You can call it whatever you want. Heading toward Iran right now, even larger than
[21:29]what we had in Venezuela. We're now sending actually a larger number of ships to Iran and hopefully we'll make a deal. If we do make a deal, that's good. If we don't make a deal, we'll see what
[21:40]happens. Well, our defense and security analyst, Professor Michael Clark, has been looking at the US Navy's current aircraft carrier deployments and has
[21:50]this analysis of what they might mean for Iran. If we look at the current positioning of
[22:02]the US Navy's aircraft carriers, it gives us a sense of the power the Americans have around the globe and what Donald Trump just may be thinking in relation to Iran. So, the carrier, the
[22:12]USS Roosevelt, has been spotted leaving its base in San Diego in California. Now, this could be to relieve the USS Washington, which is in the Sea of Japan. It's on a permanent deployment
[22:23]there, and the Washington could be going back home because the Roosevelt arrives, or the Washington could actually go to the Middle East, or maybe the Roosevelt should be heading to the Middle East
[22:35]itself, though it would take it a long time to get there from California, but that's what we know is happening. A second US carrier, the USS Eisenhower, has also been deployed from Norfolk in
[22:45]Virginia. Now, the original idea seems to have been that it would relieve the USS Ford, which is in the Caribbean. The carrier George H. Bush was in the Western Atlantic looking as if it was preparing to do that, but that is
[22:57]returned to Norfolk, possibly due to a technical problem. So perhaps the Eisenhower, instead of relieving the USS Ford in the Caribbean, might be going across the Atlantic into the
[23:07]Mediterranean itself. the USS Ford which was used in the operation to capture Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro and that would normally be ro rotated about now sent home but given the events
[23:18]elsewhere the US Navy may choose to leave it in position just a little while longer and already the USS Lincoln has arrived from the South China Sea all the way to the Arabian Gulf off the coast of
[23:29]Iran and it's been been conducting exercises there and this currently forms the basis of the armada that Donald Trump has threatened Iran with that now
[23:40]means that five of the 11 carrier strike groups the US has are now at sea on operations. And it looks as if the US wants to give itself the option of having a second or even a third carrier
[23:51]strike group somewhere in the region within operational reach of Iran sometime in the next week to two weeks. Not the least significant is the arrival from the United States of more combat
[24:02]aircraft. F-35s are confirmed flying via the US air base in the Azors. the archipella go in the North Atlantic and F-15s appear to be on their way into the theater as well. If the US doesn't have
[24:14]enough military power on station at the moment to launch a sustained attack on Iran, it's only a matter of time before it does. >> So Susie Madlin, who wants to answer the
[24:26]very, very important question, is war inevitable? Who wants to go first? Well, I would say that it certainly looks as if the the US is poised to attack Iran, but then the next question is what form
[24:38]does that attack take? Is it going to be something some kind of attempt at a surgical precision strike where you go for particular targets, um, weapons
[24:48]sites, or maybe even very targeted attacks on Iranian leaders? Or does it look like something more sustained which could involve elements of regime change? I mean, there's just so many variables
[24:59]at play here. And obviously Western intervention in that part of the world hasn't always ended fantastically well. So there are big questions about the extent to which America will want to be involved in the long term. We've already
[25:10]seen recently how they performed a strategically very effective attack in Venezuela kidnapping Nicholas Maduro and having the wherewithal to do that suggests a very high level of military
[25:20]intelligence and capability. There is perhaps a feeling that having done that successfully they feel that you know this is something they could also achieve successfully. Well, with five of
[25:30]the 11 carrier strike groups at sea on operations, um it does seem as if they mean business. Yeah, they're still probably a good week away from actually being where you need to have them. And I
[25:42]disagree with Maddie. I don't think there's going to be any kind of a surgical strike. You don't have the same situation as in Venezuela where he wants to prop up the regime that's continuing. Um as he said there, you know, um what
[25:52]he's interested in is a deal. And if he was going to, listen, if he was going to go and bomb Iran and get rid of the Müllers because of the fact they've been killing people at a faster rate than the SS were managing of some days in the
[26:03]Second World War, I would actually have to like the man as it is. That's not what he's going to do. He's posturing. He's putting all his tanks on their lawn and he wants to do a deal over oil and the nuclear project. They've been
[26:15]rebuilding the nuclear sites that he didn't bomb very successfully last time. Um and he he wants to do a deal for a huge amount of resources which at the moment Russia is getting a lot of the oil out of there. It's as simple as that. When he gets that deal, he's not
[26:26]going to care how many protesters have been murdered, how many young women have been abused and raped in custody. >> Well, he had previously said that he was coming to to their aid >> and then he just sat in his hands and they needed him. They needed him a week
[26:38]ago and it's, you know, he's not going to go in and launch a war. That's not Donald Trump. He's he's been very pro intervening in foreign foreign conflicts in foreign countries, but his whole
[26:48]party, his whole shtick is not long-term interventionism. He wants to have >> No, but that doesn't rule out that doesn't rule out strikes. We've already seen Operation Midnight Hammer strikes on the nuclear facilities. >> Yeah, but it didn't work.
[27:00]>> No, but I mean they're very willing to do it. They're they're re they're willing to do something that looks good that makes him look good that makes him say he can declare a victory of some sort and he wants to walk away clean.
[27:12]But he can't do that in terms of actually removing the Müllers. And if you do that the whole country is actually collapsed. The economy's collapsed, the currency's collapsed, the systems have collapsed. It's a failed
[27:21]state. In order to if you were going to take off the the head out of that, take the keystone out, you have to provide a regime. You have to have something to run it. The crown prince Raza Palavi has had no experience of running a
[27:33]government. He's been in exile for 47 years. He doesn't know how to do it. And the people there is no sort of firm opposition within Iran who could take over and there's no one who's got the machinery of government apart from other
[27:44]mullers. So you've got a problem >> and no indication thus far that Donald Trump is going to to back. We're going to have to go to a break. Much more to come. We'll take a first look at what's
[27:55]making the front pages of tomorrow's newspapers. Do stay with us. Heat. Heat.
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[31:07]journalist. Going to take you behind the scenes here for election night live. They have gone up and up. Big Sky News journalist Ed
[31:19]Conway. Sky News. Is anyone going to talk to us? Mortgage rates did go up very sharply during your time in office. Here it is. >> First off, just the scale of what we're looking at.
[31:29]>> Our data shows it's been happening. Question is why it hasn't been stopped. Let's take a look at tomorrow's front
[31:39]pages for you now. Well, the Sun leads on the latest Epstein file release, pointing out that Jeffrey Epstein arranged for 26-year-old Russian woman
[31:48]to meet Andrew Mountbatton, Windsor. The Telegraph also leads with that story. The Times reports that the former Prince Andrew invited Jeffrey Epstein to visit him at Buckingham Palace a month after
[32:00]the pedophile financier was released from house arrest. The Guardian reports Epstein sent thousands of pounds in bank transfers after his release from prison to Peter
[32:10]Mandlesson's husband. That's according to the emails published. We've uh just seen a statement from Lord Mandlesson and he says, "I was wrong to believe Epstein following his conviction and to
[32:21]continue my association with him afterwards. I apologize unequivocally for doing so to the women and girls who suffered." The Daily Mirror's headline from the
[32:32]files, Trump hit by underage sex claim. The US Department of Justice says claims are unfounded and false and if they have a shred of credibility, they certainly would have been weaponized against
[32:44]President Trump. Meanwhile, the eye reports that 51% of voters want Sakir Stalmer replaced as leader as he falls to his lowest
[32:53]negative approval rating of minus 49. The Financial Times reports that Trump's choice for Federal Reserve Chair Kevin Walsh has voided confidence in the
[33:05]dollar, rising by 0.7% since the announcement. The Daily Express leads with a warning that Labor is betraying the
[33:14]opportunities on offer from exiting the EU and call for a proper Brexit. So, should we have a look at the eye?
[33:25]First of all, half of voters are wanting Starmmer replaced now. Your thoughts, Madeline? >> So few. No, I'm I mean, I can't say I'm at all
[33:36]surprised. Um Kia Star seems to, you know, every month brings some terrible new milestone for him. The news that he's at at certain points has been less popular even than Liz Trust post the
[33:48]mini budget and other pop prime ministers at particular moments of great unpopularity. Um, I think it speaks to the amount of U-turning that we've seen. Um I think
[33:59]there's been some very controversial things that they have attempted to brought in bring in which they haven't haven't been very deaf at managing with their backbenches but also things that weren't in the manifesto at all that
[34:08]have pro provoked a um there's a range of difficult stories for the government in every direction and there seems to be a complete inability on their part for number 10 to kind of take control of the
[34:20]news cycle in any way and respond in a proactive way to when negative stories emerge. They seem to be very bad at setting any kind of positive narrative for themselves or just a narrative generally.
[34:31]>> Uh lowest negative rating of his uh tenure so far, minus 49. Are you surprised at that, Susie? >> No. Um but I also think he's probably
[34:42]not surprised. And I think um as you've seen when he's interviewed Beth Riby today when he says, "I'm still going to I'm going to be here and serve out my term and so on." He doesn't have to worry about this yet. If there was an election next week where it looked like
[34:53]his government was about to fail, this would be an issue, but he's got a majority the size of Donald Trump's hairpiece and he can he can afford to lose a bi-election here or there. He can
[35:04]afford to let reform take a few more MPs. It's not going to make any difference to his ability to get legislation through Parliament. Do you think complacent? Do you think >> I think complacent? But yes, he'd been better with handling his back benches. But I would take issue that Maddie said
[35:16]about the PR sis uh the coms and the the cell that they've had within Downy Street. It has been very very bad up till now. But the China um act I think
[35:26]the way they've been doing they handled this particular they've changed the the team so many times in Downey Street. They seem to have finally got there because what's happened with the China visit is they've managed to have um some good news. They've managed to get wins
[35:38]out early. Then they've managed to drop things, you know, keep things back like like the sanctions lifting. Drop that into interviews as you go so that you can just divert the press from going to find something else to write about.
[35:49]>> What do you see as big wins of >> mechanically were handled well? >> What do you see as the big wins of the China visit? >> The fact that it wasn't a disaster I think at this stage the wins. >> They have they can't come away and say
[36:00]I've got extra billion of deal. I haven't got this that and the other. >> Well, you might need a visa to go there. >> They've had the news. I would say that I don't think it's simply a case of the prime minister can ride it out as long
[36:10]as he likes. Um you know we've got potentially a very very bad set of local elections coming up for him and a bi-election um which may well end in defeat. All of this is making his MPs
[36:20]more restive more rebellious and more likely to use the internal mechanisms to topple the PM. It is a lot more difficult in the Labour party to do that than the the Tory party or at least until recently when they changed the
[36:32]rules about that to make it more secure. But I think you know they have an awful lot of although the majority is very large that disguises the fact that many MPs have very small majorities you know
[36:42]of under a thousand or so. So they're hyper sensitive to things that they feel will be unpopular and that is I think what has resulted already in so much U-turning >> re-elections. If you look at the
[36:53]Telegraph Chris Bryant is saying that voters don't care about unnecessary local elections that Labor is cancelling. Well, they're not unnecessary if they were the elections
[37:02]you were looking forward. Really, no one really really cares about their local elections. No one no one thinks, "Oh, hooray, hooray, I can go and vote for my local authority or the parish council." But they are necessary. They happen on a
[37:14]certain schedule for a certain reason. Um, and I think calling them unnecessary is probably a bit of a slip on on Bryant's part because I don't think he genuinely believes they're necessary. I think if you're going to have these
[37:25]reforms and it's going to cause problems with um the elections, then you probably delay the reforms a bit in order to get the election done first rather than the other way round. I mean, we've been talking about having possibility of elections in Ukraine and half of Ukraine
[37:37]is in a different part of the world and you can't have a secure election. You can't have referendums on whether to accept a Russia deal, that kind of thing. And we're still talking about perhaps finding ways of doing it. If
[37:47]they can do that in a war zone, I'm pretty certain they can do it in, you know, various different counties of the Do you think Chris Bryant has has misspoken? >> Well, I just think it's always a big mistake for politicians to speak with
[37:58]confidence about what voters do and don't want to say, "Oh, well, they don't care about that." Actually, a lot of them do care very much about that. A lot of people are >> often. As soon as you say that they don't care, they'll find a reason they do.
[38:09]>> Precisely. I feel like it's should be like one of the politics 101 lessons that they're taught in whatever media training they do before they become MPs. >> Politics 101. >> They have to find that they have to find
[38:21]that room. Not enough. >> We need to find that room. Uh, the Express. Uh, now you must give Britain a proper Brexit. Nigel Farage, Cammy Bedok, and Boris Johnson are backing a
[38:32]new campaign to stop the betrayal. >> This is the the expression, >> not listening. >> That's all I can say. I mean, I we can't really talk much about it because you can't see the inside of the paper and
[38:44]what the argument is, but um >> well well they're saying that they're betraying the the opportunity and the people they about this terrible betrayal are Nigel Farage, Kemmy Bay and Boris Johnson who were in charge of Brexit. If
[38:55]it's a betrayal, it's all on them. >> Sorry. Well, I mean I think it does again it's difficult to speak about this story without seeing more. But I guess
[39:04]it's also responding to a measurable um closer alignment with the EU which is something that Starmer and his cabinet ministers are pushing for. Uh and I think there is there is an active
[39:16]discussion going on within the Labour party about how much that's a good idea. So many MPs do not feel that um you know especially if they they're in more Brexit voting constituencies that this
[39:27]is necessarily going to go down well while others see it as an easy opportunity for economic win. So I think it it reflects specific decisions that are being made by Labor at the moment and the debate around that.
[39:38]>> How would you define a proper Brexit? Susie, >> this is the problem we had, isn't it? Between 2016 and 2020, we had this unending argument. Yeah. >> About whether we dealt or didn't dealt,
[39:50]whether it was an easy summit upland, whether it was a nightmare on a stick, and whether we should we should do this, whether they were holding us over a barrel, they're holding us. Oh, bloody Europe was there for all the rest of it. It was like having Henry II alive again
[40:02]and we had a king across the water who wanted to tax us to pay for their wars. It was just incredible. We just regressed a thousand years. And so we we did Brexit. We had a deal. We've now got
[40:12]someone in place who who is who is sticking to the deal but trying to find ways we could make it actually more productive for us. >> They may wish for example to to rejoin a customs union and that would then affect the ability to make trade deals for
[40:24]example. So there are, you know, there's um going in a certain direction will necessarily close down other options. So that that's kind of >> I think the Express would do better if
[40:34]they said, you know, to undo the betrayal that Brexit was of the country because they were lies. It didn't come true. The promises were never fulfilled. And the people that were in charge of
[40:46]enacting it were absolute incompetent morons. And you know, that was the betrayal. >> Betrayal of a betrayal is is where we're at really. Brexit itself was a betrayal. The fact someone's betrayed Brexit, I
[40:56]mean, thank goodness. China undo it. >> Should we move on to the Guardian, uh, the Israeli army accepting that the Gaza death toll is, uh, up to at least 70,000.
[41:07]Madlin? >> Yes. Um, unfortunately, again, we don't have much detail about this story um, beyond that headline. Um, but for some time now, the Israeli army has been has
[41:18]has been unwilling to accept those official estimates. What's not included is for example what I would be interested in knowing is what proportion of those deaths would be considered combatants but I can't I can't speak
[41:30]about that detail because I don't I don't know but um it's it's it's it's a big moment because this is something that people have been demanding for quite some time. >> It is significant isn't it Susie because the Israeli army are the ones actually
[41:42]verifying this figure >> when the Israeli government spokespeople have been on uh media around the world and especially in the UK every time they've said well so many thousand were killed in this air strike. we did this yesterday. So, so well those are Hamas
[41:53]figures. Those are from the Health Ministry of Gaza that run by Hamas. You can't trust them. And if now they're accepting the figures, then presumably it's because there's been some kind of independent verification. But, you know, we'll know more when we see some more of the detail.
[42:04]>> Okay. To the Times, uh, some sad news. Katherine O'Hara, the actress best known for Home Alone, the the film that, um,
[42:15]very well-known film. She's died at the age of 71. >> She's amazing. Um I actually started watching a program called Shitz Creek
[42:24]which is um SCH um which she is also um starring in and she's she's a very versatile actress. I actually took me a while to realize that that she was also the mom from Home Alone which is another
[42:35]iconic role that she plays so well. Um >> the mom in Beetlejuice are not going to mention >> I haven't seen that juice. It was fantastic. She did so much brilliant
[42:45]stuff throughout her career and um Shitz Creek was the fact she did that I think you know into her 60s and was getting Emmys for it. >> Phenomenal actress and so I mean such a a fantastic sort of character actress
[42:56]real extraordinary comic potential. >> Yeah. Famous I think mostly famous for the 1990 film uh Home Alone.
[43:05]>> Yeah. So let's h move on shall we? Now, the UK Food Standards Agency has told Sky News that a toxin which can cause vomiting and diarrhea has been detected
[43:16]in batches of the baby formula produced by the food and drink giant Nestle. The FSA along with the UK Health Security Agency has been investigating since
[43:27]there was a recall of more than 60 batches of Nestle SMA formula earlier this month. Well, Sky Katrina Vatsi has more. Let's take a look.
[43:37]>> A toxin has been found in Nestle baby formula. Here is what you need to know. We've been told that investigators have
[43:47]found a toxin that can cause vomiting, diarrhea, and stomach cramps in batches of baby formula produced by food and drink giant Nestle. The UK's Food
[43:57]Standard Agency along with the UK's Health Security Agency has been investigating since more than 60 batches of SMA formula produced by Nestle were
[44:08]recalled in early January. Now, these were batches sold on supermarket shelves online uh and also some were prescription only. At the time of the
[44:18]recall, Nestle said that this was due to the potential presence of this heatresistant toxin called cellulide and that their recall was out of an
[44:28]abundance of caution. The FSA has been unable to confirm when asked by Sky News how many of the batches have this toxin inside it, but they said that
[44:40]investigations were ongoing. So he basically experienced a full day of vomiting um and then continued um so we changed changed batch changed make sure we were using a fresh batch um and then
[44:52]vomiting pursued persist persisted sorry for another um week or so he was pretty really uncomfortable with feeding um really rigid after that first week he his fees were really really low so we
[45:03]were still concerned days later um about it to the fact to the extent that we ended up going to Amy again because we were still concerned about um his feed
[45:13]in general. As parents, it's bewildering that the massive range of formulas that are on the shelves. So, you pick a brand and you think, "Okay, this brand's going to be great." Um so, you kind of place your your faith and your trust in them
[45:24]that all these checks are carried out and that they've got quality control procedures in place. You feel guilty in a way that you've you've given them this stuff that's got it in or potentially got it in. The FSA could confirm that
[45:36]the toxin was found in the sole batch of Atimil formula produced by Danon and that the issue was a shared supplier
[45:45]used by both Danon and Nestle. >> Well, a reminder that a a spokesperson for Nestle has said there's been no
[45:55]change to the status of this recall. Leslie moved quickly and decisively to voluntarily issue a recall notice on the 5th of January 2025.
[46:05]This was due to the possible presence of Sarah lied in certain products because of an ingredient used in specific batches. Uh Susie and Meline, your
[46:16]thoughts on on this story and particularly worrying for parents who who put their trust as as as he was saying in a brand and and believe that they're doing the best for their baby. >> Of course you of course you do. I mean all I could say is fantastic
[46:27]investigative journalism to get to the bottom of this. Um genuinely terrifying as you say it's it's an area where you know parents will take for granted the
[46:37]assurances that they're given and for them to you know for this to suddenly come out it will make people worry I think more about what they're giving to their children generally which is not ideal. Susie, I think the bigger issue
[46:48]is that um this item was still on sale uh and a able to get to these parents um either because it was bought before the recall or because it was still on the
[46:59]shelf after the recall. And also those parents were unaware that anything had been recalled. And I think part of that is because we have a splintered media landscape now. People don't all get their news from the same source. And so,
[47:10]you know, unless it's it's going to be very very widespread, you're not going to hear that there's been a recall for a product that you might use. >> Um, so either there's been a problem with it staying on the shelf or the the recall not being um flagged up well
[47:22]enough that parents know about it. Um, or that it just, you know, that somehow the parents have bought it and managed to keep it past the point of recall that they haven't been haven't been made aware. And at the time, Madlin, uh,
[47:32]Nestle said that they were doing so I bringing the the recall into play out of an abundance of caution. Gosh, I mean, that sounds like um a very
[47:44]bureaucratic framing of it. Um, almost a sense that they're trying to, I guess, congratulate themselves for having belatedly done the right thing. >> Okay, Madlin and Susie, thank you very
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[51:30]But what happens now? Shall we see what's happening with all of the sports news in Chris United?
[51:58]>> Get in there, beauty. I will in the heads. >> As a youngster, Alan Shira had one ambition, to play in the black and white stripes of Newcastle United. News of his
[52:10]signing was confirmed by Kevin Keegan on Newcastle's current tour of Thailand. >> We have signed Alan Shira. It's a world record fee that we've paid
[52:21]and we're delighted. >> Fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. >> Most important point is a jordi. We want to save the press conference until we go back home to Newcastle because the
[52:31]signing is for the people of Newcastle. >> I've got no comment to make at this stage. I'll make it later on. >> Okay, please. >> Thank you. Delighted. Thank you. >> It was just time to come back home cuz
[52:42]I'd left 10 years earlier to go down to Southampton as a 15year-old. It wasn't as if Newcastle were struggling. They were a club that had just thrown away that 12-point lead in the race for the title. I just had to come back home. It
[52:53]was my dream to play for Newcastle and score goals at the Gala end. and I wanted my best years ahead of me. >> His hometown club have been doing brisk business in copies of the shirt will wear. >> 525 for his name, but we don't know if
[53:05]he's number nine yet or not, but that's the number people are getting. It'll be like 725 for his name and number. >> Every jewelry like a homing pigeon wants to come home. Allan's come home. And I think it's great for the club. And it'd say to the kids in the area, we're going
[53:16]to give you a chance. home. >> Newcastle United, that little team in the northeast of England. You know,
[53:27]we're breaking records. We're giving people hope again. The football team has such an effect on our lives. >> So, John, £15 million is an awful lot of money. Will you ever get it back?
[53:39]>> It is an awful lot of money. I wish we' paid less, but you know, it's the marketplace. It's the business of football. Sher's move from Blackburn to Newcastle beats the previous record, the 13 million pounds that AC Milan paid for
[53:51]Jean Luigi Lentini. And it's almost double the previous British record of 8.5 million that Liverpool paid for Stan Kymore. >> Worth 15 million. >> Worth 20 million to me.
[54:00]>> For the price of just one Alan Sheira, you could actually afford to buy yourself a brand new time bridge. Arguably the ultimate dilemma for any Jordi. >> Every had to put person in. But the
[54:12]brewery, Newcastle Brewery, the fans could never thank Newcastle breweries enough for what they did to the club. They brought the sponsorship deals forward and put in, etc. >> When you come to think of it, £15
[54:23]million then was like this vast amount of money, a world record fee. I loved the pressure and the expectation that sort of went with that. I enjoyed it,
[54:33]you know. I I enjoyed people looking at me wanting or expecting or demanding that I go out and score goals. For goodness sake, you're paying a world rail fee for a center forward, England
[54:42]center forward, and he's a Jordi. The Blackburn fans were returning shirts with Shira's name on. The club though
[54:54]say they did all they could to keep him. >> We are devastated for the club, the fans, and the people of Blackburn. But Alan now feels it is time to move on. >> Even the day he arrived, he'd always ask
[55:04]me what, you know, have Newcastle gone on when I go into the dressing room after the game. Newcastle, as we all know, you know, were his hometown.
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