BREAKING NEWS: Megyn Kelly Shows Absolutely No Mercy To Pam Bondi Over Jeffrey Epstein Files Drama

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[0:00]Hello, Tampa. [Music] >> Love you. [Music] >> So, Megan, you're here on a slow news
[0:12]day. >> Nothing's going on. Has anyone been on X in the past hour? >> They're happy. That's why, you know, they haven't been on social media. >> We'll update you.
[0:21]>> Why don't you update them, Megan? Well, this is the first big scandal, I'd say, of the Trump administration that's on Team Rational. It's not a fake media
[0:32]scandal like the left tries to create for President Trump every other day. It's one of the rights own making and it's not going well and it has to do with Jeffrey Epstein.
[0:42]>> Yeah. Let Let me just ask you, make some noise if you care about the Jeffrey Epstein scandal. Ra, raise your hand if it matters a lot
[0:54]to you. Raise your hand. >> So, every hand of 7,000 people, >> everybody cares. I think >> a lot. I said a lot. Every hand. >> Here's what I think is happening. I don't think President Trump is focused
[1:04]on this. He's focused on a lot of other things which are going great and he needs to be focused on those other things. Jeffrey Ebson's not the most important thing on his agenda by any stretch of the imagination. I mean, he's
[1:15]crushing it on the tariffs, foreign policy. Just got nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. If not Trump, then who? Honestly, Barack Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize after 9 months in office. He had done nothing. Nothing. He gave a
[1:27]nice speech about Muslims and they gave it to him. Uh, so President Trump should be getting the Nobel Peace Prize and there's all sorts of things he's focused on. I just don't think this is captured his attention quite yet. But it needs to
[1:38]because it's starting to create a real hornets's nest within the administration. And I've got to be honest, I blame Pam Bondi.
[1:47]I'll tell you why. Okay. I have nothing, yes, incompetence. Yes, I have nothing against Pam Bondi as a human being. I was fine with her
[1:57]nomination and her confirmation and she'd been loyal to the president. And I get that President Trump needs a loyal attorney general. Look what happened with Sessions. The first time he went away and then the next thing you know,
[2:08]we had the Mueller investigation and it was a nightmare, but there are a lot of other people who can be loyal and competent in that job. here. She is the reason that things are unraveling around this story right now that virtually all
[2:19]of the Republican party cares deeply about. It's it's also true that Dan Bonino and Cash Patel had questions about Epstein before they took office. Okay, before
[2:28]they went to the FBI, but once they joined the FBI, they said nothing. They've kept their mouths shut about Epstein. You have not seen them except for one joint appearance with Dan and
[2:39]Cash on Fox running all over the media looking for attention on this. Yes. clickbay story. Who have you seen? Pam Bondi. She has never missed an
[2:49]opportunity to go on television and dangle sweet nothings that might be coming your way. Try to lead you to believe that she's got it. It's on her desk. It's coming tomorrow. You're going
[3:01]to see something on Epstein. And it was a tease. So, you either believe that Pam Bondi was telling the truth then or that she's telling the truth now. But both
[3:11]cannot be true. She was either lying when she went on Fox News all those times saying, "I've got it. I've got it. We're looking at it. Wait until you see it. It's horrible." Or she's lying in her two-page memo that they released on
[3:22]a Sunday night at the tail end of a holiday weekend to Axios as if Axios is where we all go for our news. Hell no. She went to someone she knew would not kick the tires on the story and without
[3:33]signing the memo, dropped it in the dead of night and said, "That's it. Take it. Take the crumbs and be happy." refuse to come out and give a presser come out to the and give a press conference, stand
[3:44]there for six hours to the point where people are dying of boredom. They've asked all their questions. That's how you put a scandal to rest. But she wouldn't even sign her name to it. And
[3:54]I'm telling you, I I have dollars to donuts. It's going to come out that there was internal conernnation over that memo and whose name did and did not go on it and who was and was not behind
[4:04]it. And so now you have a situation where her words on the record on Fox News are diametrically opposed to what she put in this memo. She's embarrassed
[4:15]the president. She's embarrassed herself. And Dan and Cash, to the extent they've had to sign off on that, let's understand the FBI is controlled by the DOJ. FBI is subservient to DOJ. She's
[4:26]their boss. um that they're in this position where the only comments they've made on the record as administration officials have been we don't think he killed himself and we don't think he got murdered. We think he did kill himself.
[4:37]We've looked at the tapes and cash to Joe Rogan saying if if I saw all these tapes of Jeffrey Ebste with little girls trust me I would show you but I haven't seen it. Okay. So what they're saying now is consistent with what they've said
[4:49]since they joined the office. And that is one of the many reasons why this scandal is squarely on her. And I'm telling you, I'm of the cable news universe. I've seen it happen a million
[5:00]times. People get thirsty. They love to see themselves on television. They love to see their names
[5:11]in the colleague lights. They love the attention. They love the little emails and texts and tweets and thumbs up they get after their appearance. And they can feel their star rising. And listen, internally, I'm told there's a bit of
[5:22]like a power struggle between Pam Bondi and another female administration official on who's going to be the top dog. You know, we've got a great bench behind President Trump. We've got JD, we've got Marco, you know, we've got
[5:34]Pegsth. We've got a lot of people who could potentially be next up, but there are some women who've got their eye on that role, too. And >> maybe one of them speaking at this event. >> Oh, hell no.
[5:46]>> Yeah. >> I'm too heavy a person. No, I I know I was talking to someone tomorrow, so that might be speaking of this. But um so but Megan, you make a very astute point and
[5:56]let me add to it, which is that she also brought in some of our best influencers, people that I care about deeply, Jack Pobic, who's incredible, Libs of Tik
[6:06]Tok, Chia, um DC Drano. Yeah. >> And she gave them these binders >> and she humiliated them. >> Yeah. And you guys know what I'm talking about where she like did this stuff with
[6:17]your binders >> and you guys were upset, but you shouldn't be upset at the influencers. They were handed these binders like there was something incredible in there. >> It is what you would do to an enemy. It
[6:29]It would be It would have been a brilliant operation had she loathed them and been looking to undermine them. The trick would have been perfect had this been Joe Biden's White House doing this to some of President Trump's most loyal
[6:40]supporters and media advocates. Uh, you know, the what happened was they invited all of them there to say hi to the vice president, to say hi to the president. Sure, they all went, of course, who wouldn't go to the White House to say
[6:52]hello to Trump. They didn't expect anything on Epstein. So, they went, they said hello, and before they knew it, they were pulled into a room with Pam Bondi and Cash Patel. And she had made
[7:02]the binders. She bragged about making the cover sheet that read Epstein files phase 1. And she handed them out. And what Liz Wheeler, who was there, told me
[7:12]was that she told them, "There's not that much in here, but like another trove is coming. I'm going to get it from the FBI, but like here's here's
[7:21]phase one." Flash forward 14 hours earlier to when she was on with Jesse Waters on Fox News saying, "Oh, you're going to see some Epstein documents tomorrow. You're going to" She knew they
[7:33]were She knew that there was nothing in there. She told the influencers when she gave it to them, "There's really nothing in here. going to try to get you more. And in the meantime, then they funneled them out the back of the White House where all
[7:45]the press corps was and the influencers are standing there with these binders. They didn't even know they were there for Epstein and they looked foolish through no fault of their own. The only fault was they trusted her.
[7:56]>> And and these are some of our best people that got that we we should have their back. Liz Wheeler's amazing. Jack Bobic and they got >> she dinged their credibility for no reason. >> 100%. And did they ever get an apology for that?
[8:07]>> No. And the only way of making it up, trust me, as somebody in the media who relies on sources, the only way she could have made up for this enormous error, and truly to this day, if you
[8:19]believe she knew there was nothing in there, then I don't know why she did it. She just did it to make them look like fools for fun of it. Um, but the only way she could have made up for it was to give them a scoop. That's the only way
[8:29]of fixing it. Whe when you have the scoop, when when you do get the second trunch, you've got to leak something to them. you've got to let them break something. She never did, but she
[8:39]continued to tout that she had something. She was going to get that FBI file. Then she got caught by James O'Keeffe on hidden camera saying she had
[8:48]tens of thousands of videos of Epstein or and little children. It was like what? Well, we never heard that. We heard he was into the barely legal type,
[8:58]you know, the like 18year-olds who look 14, but we didn't hear about children. And then because she was caught once again shooting off her mouth inappropriately. Attorneys general of
[9:09]the United States normally say nothing. They say nothing. >> Merrick Garland had one press conference a year. >> Yes. Nothing. Bill Bar, you couldn't get him to speak or say anything. Even Eric Holder was less chatty than this. So she
[9:21]got caught on camera and she decided to cover up the James O'Keefe slip by then running to a real camera and being like, "There are tens of thousands of videos of the children and I'm announcing it all." So once again, she didn't give
[9:32]that to the influencers and then she slides it into this memo. >> So I I have a dumb question. Maybe it's not dumb. So it's tens of So she had doubled down on the videos. Is that correct, Megan?
[9:43]>> Yes. Now Epstein was not the perp in every one of those videos. >> So because they've been so ambiguous. >> No, but like think about this. Unless we're led to believe that Epstein
[9:52]himself personally raped all these kids, children, or whatever, then isn't the statute of limitations on child rape like basically infinite? >> So then why are we not indicting the
[10:04]people that were doing the raping that we have on video? Like what's that all about? >> Yeah. >> No, no, you know this better than I do. So Epstein's dead. He's, you know, he's
[10:14]met his hopefully eternal fire where he deserves in the pit of hell. But if it's true, the attorney general of the United States said, just remind me, we have thousands of videos. >> She said that we've got thousands of
[10:25]videos showing child pornography. >> And she doubled down on that. >> So tripled. >> So you have to infer Jeffrey Epstein was not the only person involved in that.
[10:35]>> Well, no. Let me So let me tell you what I've gleaned, but since she's been so ambiguous, take it with a grain of salt, okay? I'm She won't have a presser. She won't give an interview. She won't answer any hard questions. All we get is
[10:47]the unsigned paper memo, two pages to Axios, who won't ask any questions. So, what I think she's saying is that she's found allegedly tens of thousands of
[10:59]screen grabs of child pornography. You they call it child sexual abuse material now. It's CC scan. And that's what she says there. They found on his like hard drives, like he was into this form of
[11:10]porn like off the internet. But separately they say he had at least a thousand victims like of his. >> No. Okay. So, but a thousand victims. Unless we are to believe he personally
[11:21]was after every one of those victims, there has to be some other bad guys still alive that are powerful that did something to these children. Why are we not in paneling a special prosecutor to
[11:32]find every single one of these powerful people that went after these kids? Like, what? Why are we putting up with this? >> Yeah. I don't know. And I think you'll find out. >> Am I understanding this correctly? I don't even remember. I don't even know
[11:44]Pam Bondi said that. I thought I can't even remember all this cuz it's all over. I got a thing on my desk. I got a truckloads of stuff. >> Yeah. No, we all have busy lives and President Trump has a busy life and I don't think he realizes how much she's
[11:54]humiliated the administration. This is a self-inflicted wound. She caused it. Again, I have nothing against Pam Bondi, but if you want to look for the villain in this story, we have found her. It I mean, she is the person who's either
[12:06]she's either lying now or she was lying then. There's no two ways about it. And if you accept what's in the memo, that they don't have the goods on anybody, there's no one who can be indicted, they didn't find a trove of info on other people, then why was she trying to
[12:17]titilate us over a child sexual abuse case for months? She was on the air repeatedly in February, in March, again in May. It's completely inappropriate.
[12:28]You don't play cutesy with child sexual abuse material. >> So, Megan, I don't mean to interrupt. I mean, first of all, you're totally right, but you know the media. You know,
[12:39]you've been around the space of like hyper ambitious women. What is is is this analyze her for us? >> Well, I think she wants to make a name for herself. What she really wants to be
[12:51]is a star. That's what I think she wants. That's why she runs to the cameras on Fox News. There's no other reason. Look back at the attorneys general. Do seriously, do you ever remember knowing an attorney general
[13:02]like this or like even having the attorney general's voice in your head? Can you I can barely remember Merrick Garland's weird little nasly voice, but I mean it's in there. But the average
[13:13]person couldn't pick him out of a lineup because normally attorneys general are somber, serious people who are fairly annoying, but they're schooled in the
[13:22]law. Pam Bondi has one trait, and I think it's why Trump chose her. She's loyal to the president. And I get it. He does need somebody loyal, especially in
[13:31]that position. But he has a wealth of other options. Well, I mean, I think Judge Janine is amazing. Do we like Judge Janine? Everything else Judge Janine? >> Judge Janine would be brilliant. Harmy
[13:43]Dylan would be brilliant. >> You're calling for Pam Bondi to resign or to go, but can you please tell people the breaking news according to reports that you have verified Cash Patel and
[13:54]Dan Bonino will resign if what does not happen? >> If she doesn't go. >> So, >> I only have it on Bonino. >> It's No, it's all over X though. >> No, I know. Here's let me just tell you
[14:05]what my my reporting is. Banino. It's Bonino or Bondi. He's not saying >> who would you guys prefer, Bino or Bonnie? >> Okay. 7,000 to zero.
[14:16]>> They want Dan. Of course, Dan. You know why? Because Dan understands MAGA. Dan's part of the MAGA movement. Dan's been a an important piece of it and a mouthpiece for like really important
[14:25]ideas and and an advocate and a fierce warrior. He's been in the trenches. I mean, with all due respect to Pam Body, she's been in Florida. She represented the president. It's nice. But do you think she really gets MAGA? I don't
[14:37]think so. She wouldn't have behaved this way if she did. And now it's a time for choosing. It's a time for choosing. We're about to lose Dan for sure and maybe Cash, too, if she doesn't go. Now,
[14:48]she's got she's got some allies. I mean, I think Susie Wilds is close with her and Susie Wilds is amazing. Um, and look, there's not that many like powerful women in the in the administration. Maybe she wants to keep
[15:00]her. She's from Florida. Susie Wilds from Florida. Trump lives in Florida, but this has gone well beyond this. Like, this could actually cost Trump in the midterms. We need to make a smart choice right now. We can't lose any of the MAGA base.
[15:10]>> And and let me just also reiterate this and by no means did I want our very big student action summit to talk about Epstein the entire like of all the
[15:20]things. I'm not like Epstein obsessed. Some people their YouTube channel, it's all they talk about. I think that the fact that young people can't afford homes is something we should talk about a lot more than these things endlessly,
[15:32]but this matters a lot. And so from a media standpoint, Megan, you know the media better than anybody else. You've been in the media, you've been outside the media. What's this Sunday night thing? What is that? So you have a July
[15:44]4th weekend after the big beautiful bill and you leak it on a Sunday night >> to Axios. >> What is that? >> If you you want to leak it and you want conservatives to see it, you leak it to the Daily Caller. You leak it to Fox
[15:55]News. You leak it to Daily Wire. You don't leak it to Axios. Our people don't read Axios. If we read Axios, it's under protest just to see what the left is saying. So it was like you you saw it appear. It was like this must be bull.
[16:06]There's no way this is real. There's no way. I can tell you right now there's zero chance Dan Bonino's leaking to Axios. Zero. And cash. So, and yet today
[16:17]as we came here, there's a piece in Axios that reflects very poorly on Dan alleging Dan only freaked out once he saw in this memo um that people weren't
[16:28]responding well to the missing minute of the tapes of Jeffrey Epste's cell. Do you guys know this piece of the story? And that he went into a meltdown like a little child and then threw a hissy fit. So, my point is not to weigh in on the
[16:39]truth or falsity of that. It's false. But it is to point out that's clearly a Bondi leak. Very clearly that's a Bondi leak. So what's clear to me from this as a member of the media is Bondi leaked
[16:50]the memo to Axios and Bondi's doubling down by trying to get Axios to dump on Dan and trying to make him be the fall guy andor Cash be the fall guy and she will not face the cameras. If she means
[17:01]what she says, fine. Come out and defend it. To Dan's credit, he went on Fox a couple of weeks ago and he got beaten up pretty good for this and said, "I think
[17:11]Epstein killed himself and the the base went nuts. The the base doesn't believe that, but he's like, if you got other proof, show it to me. He faced the cameras and did it." She hasn't. >> I'm open to it. If that's true, why
[17:23]don't you just tell us the prisoners names who are on the same cell block as Jeffrey Epstein? >> There's a lot. >> No, that's BS. I'm sorry. The president of United States figured out HIPPA for federal prisoners. Tell us. I mean, tell
[17:34]us who the other prisoners were if no one had access to it because all of a sudden, if we find out some of these prisoners had suspicious intel ties, what I'm getting at is at some point, we want answers at some point.
[17:45]>> Yeah. Answer the questions. That's it. >> I I don't I I I again, I don't want to talk about this as long as we have and like we had this amazing summit and we've spent all these resources and planning. Charlie, wait. Let me just make the case for talking about it
[17:57]because I It's funny because you look back at the the past. Dan and Cash talked about Epstein all the time when they were in my business. >> Good point is that hasn't been a shtick of mine. >> Mine either. Mine either. I talked about
[18:07]it when it's bubbled up. Same. Same. But I am a lawyer by training and I can smell BS when it's being shoveled to me. And it's very obvious to me right now that we've got spinners trying to mess
[18:18]with us in Washington on a story that is important. And here's why. Yes, obviously child sexual abuse matters. And if we have some ring of pedophiles running around, I mean, outside of Hollywood, we need to know. Um, but
[18:30]here's why it's really why it does matter. It's worthy of discussing at a place like this. It's about transparency. One of the main reasons that we voted Trump in was because we wanted real answers on real stories and we didn't want to be BSD anymore with a
[18:41]bunch of nonsense from our government that treated us like a bunch of stooges. Right. Thank you. And I believe Trump is still loyal to that mission. And maybe maybe the people who are behind that
[18:52]memo are loyal to that mission too. But this ain't it. Th that would require especially on a story they know they know the base has been led down with a betrayal of breadcrumbs to believe
[19:04]something else for years. This is a story the only way to end it if that's your goal is you stand in front of those cameras and you take every single question your biggest critics have for you. >> So let let's go through a battle plan.
[19:15]Let's say you're senior adviser of the president. What is the one two three sequencing press conference? You would get rid of Bondi. What else to get us back on track towards transparency? I
[19:26]think the DOJ should immediately move to unseal all the Epstein documents in the Southern District of New York. >> Yeah. Everything. Everything except child sexual assault material. >> I think every file should be released to the public the same way as the JFK
[19:37]files. Let the American people decide. >> Put them out there because if there's nothing in there, then we can see there's nothing in there. Now, listen. people who are truly conspiratorial who will just never believe anything other than Jeffrey was murdered and there's a
[19:48]ring of pedophiles. They won't be satisfied and that's fine. You're entitled to believe that. Like that's fine. You're you're entitled to your own beliefs. However, some percentage of skeptics will at least give them credit
[19:58]for opening the files. And it we could have a situation where they open the files and Dan and Cash stand there and say, "I don't know what was taken out of here before we got here." You know, it's possible that those files are rather
[20:09]disappointing and they're not to blame. I don't know. Or it's possible, I just got to say this for the record, it's also possible that Jeffrey Epstein was an absolutely disgusting
[20:20]predator who loved just the barely legal types and did take advantage of them and didn't actually farm a bunch of girls out to a bunch of men. It's possible.
[20:31]And I'll say this on it. I know somebody very close to the case, very close to the case, who I trust implicitly, and that person has told me from the beginning that that's what happened.
[20:40]that Epstein was very into the girls who looked like 13, but he knew he had to hire the ones who were like 17, 18 to come in and give him massages that had
[20:50]the so-called happy ending. And that was really his thing and that's and there are over a thousand of those. >> No, I I get that. But I think what people want to know is who what other
[21:02]powerful people were involved. >> Yeah, we've heard all the names. who went to Epste, who went to Epste who specifically went on the plane, who stayed for more than a night. Like, that's what Alan Dersitz is saying, and
[21:12]he's so right about this. He was dragged through the mud by that Virginia Duayra >> and he won his case. >> He did not molest Virginia Duprey. It was a lie. Okay, if you and I've done
[21:22]this in depth, this the study of this. She was his name was suggested to her by somebody who thought she'd sell more books if she named a famous guy. And it was suggested to her, how about Allen?
[21:34]Who Jeffrey knew because Allen represented him when he got arrested for uh transportation of a of a minor in prostitution. And Allen, you know, he look, he did represent Epstein. That's
[21:44]not great. He represented OJ. Isn't that worse? Like that's what criminal defense attorneys do. I don't judge it. We need them. We need them to kick the tires on the system. Um so any that's how he knew Jeffrey. They weren't buddies. He wasn't
[21:55]like Bill Clinton ping around with him everywhere. Um so she got accused. She she accused him unfairly. But he is saying now he thinks the entire files
[22:06]should be opened even if other men like Allan get swept up into like a web a web of like you did it, you did it, you did it. And then let them rehabilitate
[22:16]themselves the way he did. Let them show the evidence of I actually wasn't even in the country when I got accused. I was at a different place. I was at work. I'm on camera at the Starbucks. Whatever.
[22:26]But why why not given given the amount of like smoke around this fire? Why not just open the files? >> Do you think there's any intel community involvement in this?
[22:37]>> I wouldn't be surprised one bit. I am convinced based on my own sources and my own reporting on this story. He wasn't one of ours. >> So he wasn't American, which leads
[22:48]basically three options. MI6, Saudi, or MSAD. >> Yep. >> Which one would you choose? I guess MSAD given his connection to Galain Maxwell. >> So what does that mean?
[23:01]>> Well, I mean it's possible that that's the reason everything is getting buried that there is some treasure trove and it's getting buried because >> How many people here believe that? Raise your hand. Okay, I'd say about half half the hands think that it's being buried
[23:12]because of an Israeli thing. >> It could be. I I really don't know. >> I have no evidence to suggest that. I'm just >> Yeah. No, me neither. I did think it was very odd how look half of you raised your hands because you've heard that
[23:23]theory you've heard it debated you're you have questions but the one time Pam Bondi was asked a question about this at the at the um cabinet meeting on Monday
[23:33]she she was like and as for whether he was an agent that I don't know I I haven't looked into that I'll get back to you haven't looked into it what do you mean you have so that was kind of a fishy answer
[23:44]>> and Megan remember Alexander Aosta in 2007 He said he was told to treat Epstein carefully because he was an intel asset. That was that was one of
[23:55]Trump's cabinet secretaries who was literally a US attorney 3 hours from here in Florida. He said that himself. >> Well, and let me tell you the
[24:05]consequences of that. His subpoena, his search warrant on Jeffrey Epstein's residence was very narrow. It was not the kind of like let's get everything.
[24:15]let's let's see everything inside this guy's, you know, dressers and so on. It was very very narrowly tailored. And to this day, that's what the FBI is stuck with. So, it really is possible that Dan
[24:27]and Cash got in there and, you know, in like a Haraldo and Al Capone's vault situation, opened it up, and we're like, "Oh my gosh, there's nothing in here."
[24:38]Like, we did not find the magic documents or photos or evidence of anything. And and why not? I don't know we'll ever know why not. I I'm not sure
[24:48]we'll ever know, but I guess I care less about that than I do about just open the books and be fully >> again I don't want to I don't want to feed into any of the let's just say speculative theories. I but Alexander
[24:59]Aosta himself talked about Intel asset >> and you have to wonder that the timing of all this Sunday night. So you have the big beautiful bill. You have Independence Day weekend. Why are you
[25:11]doing this on a Sunday night? Was it >> bury it? But you don't bury things on Sunday nights. >> You do on a holiday weekend. You do. Like people are away. They're traveling back from the beach on Sunday night.
[25:22]They're dealing with traffic. They knew they were too smart to to think that they could get away with doing it on a Saturday night or on a Friday night. So they wanted the cover of like we're doing it on like the night before a real
[25:33]news day, but Monday after July 4th is not a real news day. Everybody's still in transition. >> So left unressed. I know this is a hypothetical, which I hate those questions. What if they if we just try to proceed? What does that mean?
[25:45]>> If we just what? >> Just try to proceed. No, don't address this. If the administration just tries to power through, >> her days are numbered. She can't recover from this. She's shot herself in the foot on her own credibility. I just
[25:56]don't think enough to avoid making another mistake very soon. And so that'll probably be
[26:08]the one that that gets her because President Trump, I understand fully. He doesn't want to offer a scalp in response to this. And I get it. He doesn't want to, and I understand why,
[26:18]even though it's his own people, he doesn't want to look like uh he's sold out his people. And he's loyal, too. He really is. He's very loyal to the people who are loyal to him, to his credit. But I think he's also extremely smart, and he he can read a room better than
[26:30]anybody. And I think once he realizes, thanks to an event like this, etc., that this does matter with the base. This is not a nothing burger for them for all the reasons we've discussed. I think
[26:39]he'll decide she's a goner. It's just a question of what the excuse is. More time with her family or right and she'll she'll be sara.
[26:50]>> And so from a PR standpoint, what so you would do an open press conference, take every possible question. >> If I were Trump, I would say all three of you are going out and holding a presser. Everybody's welcome. All
[27:02]comers. And you're not leaving until like we're down to the Jimacostas of the world. Like you will stay until those kinds of people have gotten to ask questions because let me tell you
[27:13]something. This another thing that's irritating about the whole way they've handled is they're embarrassing other good people. Like did you see Caroline Levit out there trying to answer questions on this? >> I think Caroline's great. Don't we like Caroline?
[27:23]>> The best. >> Same. >> She has nothing to do with this. >> Nothing to do with it. I love her and she has total credibility and I watched her try to like spin that memo which is
[27:35]her job and I felt nothing but empathy for her and I and I also felt like how dare you put her in this position. This is your stink over at the DOJ. Why don't you get your own spokesperson out there to deal with it but don't make poor
[27:45]Caroline sacrifice the president's credibility and hers on this dog turd of a story. So it they do need to wrap it up. It should well it should be wrapped up in in a perfect world Trump will say
[27:56]all three of you get out there have an open press or anybody can take can can answer questions and just answer them all honestly short of that like we could get to today's Friday we could get to
[28:05]Monday with Dan gone possibly Cash gone again my reporting says Cash is staying others says he'll go if Bangino goes I think one of them knows we have a
[28:15]country to run and we really do need one of them there >> no I think we need both I mean I I'd hate to lose them both >> I do too >> and Let's play this out for a second,
[28:24]though. Let's say Bonino leaves. Well, he's not going to keep its mouth shut. So, he >> he's got one of these, too. >> He's got a big one of these. >> And he will come out immediately and he
[28:36]will tell his side of the story, which will not help the integrity of the administration. >> No. >> Right. So, if you if you let Bino, you will have somebody for years that
[28:47]will be bitter towards the administration and all of us. >> He's not going to want to hurt Trump. No, no, no. But he'll tell the truth and we will lose. We will be like, if Bonino can't go and fight and solve this thing,
[28:59]>> then like I mean, what are we doing here, right? If Dan Bonino, who's like one of the greatest patriots we have, >> cannot go and reform the FBI with Cash Patel after we win a popular vote majority, >> right?
[29:11]>> Then I'm not I'm like I will never give up. But I know for millions of people that will be met with just a sigh of cynicism. >> But think about it. You know what I mean? Yes. 100%. You think about like you mentioned Janine. Janine Piro would
[29:23]take no prisoners. She's she's totally confirmable, too. She She's She'd be great in this role. Like, it's not like there's no bench behind Pam Bondi. Like, there is a bench. Janine could do it.
[29:32]Har could do it. Um, even >> Matt Gates can't do it. I mean, he could do it, but he's not confirmable. >> Yeah, he's not confirmable. >> Matt Gates for a special prosecutor. That would be very interesting. >> Now, that would be fun to watch.
[29:44]>> Matt Matt Gates with a government corruption special prosecutor. >> Anyway, there are other people who could take over that role. And and just think about it because I can see the untenability of Dan and Cash thinking effectively working for Pam, right? Like
[29:55]they're working for her and she seems feckless except she seems somewhat petty and personal given the leaks I'm reading and she seems way too focused on being a
[30:05]star. It reminds me of Brian Williams of NBC. Remember how it was like it turned out he was more interested in seeing his mug on television and telling fake stories about what a badass he allegedly
[30:17]was and like Abadabad, you know, with CLTM6 practically raiding the compound than he was in in being taken seriously and being a credible credible news anchor. And I'm sorry to say I think she
[30:27]suffers from that same disease and so she has to go. >> Two final thoughts. Number one, everybody, just so you know, all uh going late tonight and all tomorrow, we are doing exclusive interviews for the
[30:38]Charlie Kirk show right near Ballroom C for members only. So, if you guys want to see interviews, we're going to be interviewing all the major names. We just had a conversation with Pete Hegsath and Tucker Carlson. We have big
[30:49]ones tomorrow, so it's at ballroom C. They'll be happening all day. Just look at your agenda that's right on there if you guys want to attend. Megan, last question is that there's 7,000 people
[30:58]here, most of which are students. What advice do you have for them fighting on campus trying to figure out what they want to do with their life? Let's do a non-Epstein end to all of this.
[31:07]>> Awesome. Um, be who you are. Don't pretend you're a lefty in order to win any professor's good humor. He's not worth it. Get your D on your paper because you refuse to argue that
[31:19]capitalism is bad. And wear it like a badge of honor. Bring it with you into your job interview. And that will make sure you align with an employer who's right for you. Right? Don't say that you
[31:30]support Planned Parenthood the way they want you to. Don't call yourself a feminist because your teacher will give you pats on the head. Stand up for what you really believe in. And that's how we spread the good word. That's how we
[31:41]convert others over to where we stand rather than just get ahead pretending we're with them and then only once we have power tell our true feelings. It's it's not worth it. Uh, anybody who came
[31:52]to me with a crappy GPA from one of these elite universities and then showed me all their papers that spoke up for conservatism and America and God faith,
[32:03]I I would hire them in an instant over somebody who emerged with an, you know, perfect GPA who went along to get along. That's not a leader. That's a sheep. Don't be like that. Stand up for your
[32:13]beliefs now when it matters. >> Megan, you are amazing. God bless you. and turning point you'll say thank you. >> Thank you so much you guys. It's great to be with you.