[0:00]AND FIND ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA, FACEBOOK, TWITTER, SNAPCHAT, FACEBOOK, TWITTER, SNAPCHAT, INSTAGRAM. INSTAGRAM. "DEADLINE: WHITE HOUSE" WITH "DEADLINE: WHITE HOUSE" WITH NICOLLE WALLACE STARTS RIGHT NICOLLE WALLACE STARTS RIGHT NOW. NOW. >>> HI, EVERYONE. >>> HI, EVERYONE. IT’S 4:00 IN NEW YORK AND TODAY IT’S 4:00 IN NEW YORK AND TODAY IT’S OFFICIAL, HIS BRAND IS IT’S OFFICIAL, HIS BRAND IS RACISM. RACISM. AND ALL BUT FOUR REPUBLICANS
[0:13]AND ALL BUT FOUR REPUBLICANS SIGNED ON TO THE DECISION TO SIGNED ON TO THE DECISION TO ALIGN THEMSELVES WITH DONALD ALIGN THEMSELVES WITH DONALD TRUMP’S HATEFUL CREEDS WITH TRUMP’S HATEFUL CREEDS WITH COMMENTS AGAINST FOUR DEMOCRATS
[0:25]COMMENTS AGAINST FOUR DEMOCRATS TO CONDEMN THEIR ATTACKS ON TO CONDEMN THEIR ATTACKS ON THEM. THEM. QUOTE, WITH THREE DAYS OF QUOTE, WITH THREE DAYS OF ATTACKS ON FOUR LIBERAL MINORITY ATTACKS ON FOUR LIBERAL MINORITY FIRST-TERM CONGRESSWOMEN, FIRST-TERM CONGRESSWOMEN, PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS HAVE SENT THE
[0:40]REPUBLICANS HAVE SENT THE BIGGEST SIGN YET THAT 2020 WILL BIGGEST SIGN YET THAT 2020 WILL BE A RACIALLY DIVISIVE REPRISE BE A RACIALLY DIVISIVE REPRISE OF THE STRATEGY THAT MR. TRUMP OF THE STRATEGY THAT MR. TRUMP NARROWED CAPTURED THE WHITE NARROWED CAPTURED THE WHITE HOUSE IN 2016.
[0:52]HOUSE IN 2016. HE MIGHT BE THE ONLY PERSON IN HE MIGHT BE THE ONLY PERSON IN THE POLITICAL ARENA NOW AND EVER THE POLITICAL ARENA NOW AND EVER FOR WHOM A WEEK-LONG RACE FOR WHOM A WEEK-LONG RACE SCANDAL THAT ENDS IN A SCANDAL THAT ENDS IN A CONGRESSIONAL REBUKE IS BETTER CONGRESSIONAL REBUKE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER HEADLINES OUT THAN THE OTHER HEADLINES OUT THERE ABOUT HIM. THERE ABOUT HIM. HEADLINES LIKE THIS ONE ON HIS
[1:06]HEADLINES LIKE THIS ONE ON HIS CHUMMY RELATIONSHIP ACCUSED CHUMMY RELATIONSHIP ACCUSED CHILD SEX TRAFFICKER JEFFREY CHILD SEX TRAFFICKER JEFFREY EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN. NBC ENURGED FOOTAGE OF DONALD NBC ENURGED FOOTAGE OF DONALD TRUMP WELCOMING EPSTEIN IN HIS TRUMP WELCOMING EPSTEIN IN HIS MAR-A-LAGO ESTATE IN 1992. MAR-A-LAGO ESTATE IN 1992. DONALD TRUMP KNEW THE CAMERAS DONALD TRUMP KNEW THE CAMERAS WERE THERE.
[1:18]WERE THERE. IN THE VIDEO HE MAKES A POINT TO IN THE VIDEO HE MAKES A POINT TO DRAW EPSTEIN’S ATTENTION TO DRAW EPSTEIN’S ATTENTION TO THEM. THEM. THE VIDEO CAPTURES DONALD TRUMP THE VIDEO CAPTURES DONALD TRUMP AND EPSTEIN CHATTING WHILE AND EPSTEIN CHATTING WHILE WATCHING A GROUP OF WOMEN AT THE WATCHING A GROUP OF WOMEN AT THE PARTY DANCE. PARTY DANCE. IT’S NOT AN IMAGE THAT MATCHES IT’S NOT AN IMAGE THAT MATCHES TRUMP’S DECLARATION THAT HE WAS
[1:30]TRUMP’S DECLARATION THAT HE WAS NOT A FAN OF EPSTEIN’S. NOT A FAN OF EPSTEIN’S. THE OTHER POTENTIAL DILEMMA FROM THE OTHER POTENTIAL DILEMMA FROM THE PRESIDENT, NEWS EARLIER THE PRESIDENT, NEWS EARLIER TODAY THAT THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE TODAY THAT THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE INVESTIGATION OUT OF THE INVESTIGATION OUT OF THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK, SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK, THE ONE THAT HELPED SEND TRUMP’S
[1:44]THE ONE THAT HELPED SEND TRUMP’S ONE-TIME PERSONAL TORE MICHAEL ONE-TIME PERSONAL TORE MICHAEL COHEN TO JAIL IS DONE. COHEN TO JAIL IS DONE. YOU WILL RECALL COHEN’S YOU WILL RECALL COHEN’S SENTENCING DOCUMENTS FROM THAT SENTENCING DOCUMENTS FROM THAT INVESTIGATION THAT DESCRIBED INVESTIGATION THAT DESCRIBED DONALD TRUMP AS, QUOTE, DONALD TRUMP AS, QUOTE, INDIVIDUAL ONE AND IMPLICATED
[1:56]INDIVIDUAL ONE AND IMPLICATED HIM AS A CO-CONSPIRATOR IN AN HIM AS A CO-CONSPIRATOR IN AN ILLEGAL HUSH MONEY OPERATION. ILLEGAL HUSH MONEY OPERATION. A JUDGE IN THAT CASE ANNOUNCING A JUDGE IN THAT CASE ANNOUNCING TODAY THAT CRITICAL EVIDENCE TODAY THAT CRITICAL EVIDENCE WILL BE UNSEALED TOMORROW. WILL BE UNSEALED TOMORROW. EVIDENCE RELATED TO THE RAID OF
[2:09]EVIDENCE RELATED TO THE RAID OF COHEN’S HOME AND OFFICES LAST COHEN’S HOME AND OFFICES LAST YEAR THAT SO INFURIATED TRUMP, YEAR THAT SO INFURIATED TRUMP, HE WOULD DESCRIBE THEM AS AN HE WOULD DESCRIBE THEM AS AN ATTACK ON OUR COUNTRY. ATTACK ON OUR COUNTRY. IT’S EVIDENCE THE GOVERNMENT
[2:22]IT’S EVIDENCE THE GOVERNMENT WANTED KEPT UNDER SEAL BUT WANTED KEPT UNDER SEAL BUT DENIED IT SAYING, QUOTE, THE DENIED IT SAYING, QUOTE, THE WEIGHTY PUBLIC RAMIFICATIONS OF WEIGHTY PUBLIC RAMIFICATIONS OF THE CONDUCT DESCRIBED WARRANT THE CONDUCT DESCRIBED WARRANT DISCLOSURE, ADDING, QUOTE, THE DISCLOSURE, ADDING, QUOTE, THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE VIOLATIONS
[2:35]CAMPAIGN FINANCE VIOLATIONS DISCUSSED IN THE MATERIALS ARE DISCUSSED IN THE MATERIALS ARE NOW A MATTER OF NATIONAL NOW A MATTER OF NATIONAL IMPORTANCE. IMPORTANCE. IT IS TIME EVERY AMERICAN HAS AN IT IS TIME EVERY AMERICAN HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SCRUTINIZE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SCRUTINIZE THE MATERIALS. MATERIALS. AND THAT IS WHERE WE START TODAY AND THAT IS WHERE WE START TODAY WITH SOME OF OUR FAVORITE WITH SOME OF OUR FAVORITE REPORTERS AND FRIENDS. REPORTERS AND FRIENDS. JEREMY BASH IS THE FORMER CHIEF
[2:48]JEREMY BASH IS THE FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF AT THE CIA AND DEFENSE OF STAFF AT THE CIA AND DEFENSE DEPARTMENT. DEPARTMENT. FRANK FIGLIUZZI, FORMER FRANK FIGLIUZZI, FORMER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR COUNTERINTELLIGENCE AT THE FBI, COUNTERINTELLIGENCE AT THE FBI, PLUS FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR PLUS FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR GLENN KIRSCHNER IS HERE. GLENN KIRSCHNER IS HERE. "THE WASHINGTON POST" NATIONAL "THE WASHINGTON POST" NATIONAL POLITICAL REPORTER ROFTIA COSTA
[3:01]POLITICAL REPORTER ROFTIA COSTA IS BACK BE WITH US ON SET, THE IS BACK BE WITH US ON SET, THE HOST OF "SATURDAY NIGHT HOST OF "SATURDAY NIGHT POLITICS" HERE ON MSNBC DONNY POLITICS" HERE ON MSNBC DONNY DEUTSCHE. DEUTSCHE. FRANK FIGLIUZZI, I HAVE TO START FRANK FIGLIUZZI, I HAVE TO START WITH YOU. WITH YOU. WE’VE ALL HAD COUNTLESS WE’VE ALL HAD COUNTLESS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS SDNY
[3:14]CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS SDNY CASE, WHAT THEY MIGHT BE DOING, CASE, WHAT THEY MIGHT BE DOING, WHAT THEY MIGHT BE BUILDING. WHAT THEY MIGHT BE BUILDING. AND WHEN EVERYONE CAME OUT AND AND WHEN EVERYONE CAME OUT AND TRIED TO ASSERT THERE WASN’T AN TRIED TO ASSERT THERE WASN’T AN UNDERLYING CRIME FOR ROBERT UNDERLYING CRIME FOR ROBERT MUELLER’S INVESTIGATION, YOU AND MUELLER’S INVESTIGATION, YOU AND JEREMY AND OTHERS POINTED BACK
[3:27]JEREMY AND OTHERS POINTED BACK TO THIS INVESTIGATION OUT OF TO THIS INVESTIGATION OUT OF SDNY WHERE DONALD TRUMP IS NAMED SDNY WHERE DONALD TRUMP IS NAMED AS AN UNINDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR AS AN UNINDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR IN THE COHEN SENTENCING IN THE COHEN SENTENCING DOCUMENTS. DOCUMENTS. TALK ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF TALK ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF TODAY’S DEVELOPMENT. TODAY’S DEVELOPMENT. >> WELL, IN CASE WE WITHNEEDED M
[3:42]>> WELL, IN CASE WE WITHNEEDED M DRAMIA ATTACHED TO THIS, WE HAVE DRAMIA ATTACHED TO THIS, WE HAVE A FEDERAL JUDGE SAYING THIS IS A FEDERAL JUDGE SAYING THIS IS OF NATIONAL IMPORTANCE. OF NATIONAL IMPORTANCE. LET’S LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY WHAT LET’S LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY WHAT HE’S TALKING ABOUT. HE’S TALKING ABOUT. THE PROBABLE CAUSE THAT WENT
[3:55]THE PROBABLE CAUSE THAT WENT INTO THE AFFIDAVIT AND SEARCH OF INTO THE AFFIDAVIT AND SEARCH OF COHEN’S HOME AND OFFICES. COHEN’S HOME AND OFFICES. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHEN YOU WRITE THAT AFFIDAVIT WHEN YOU WRITE THAT AFFIDAVIT YOU’RE CONVINCING A JUDGE THAT YOU’RE CONVINCING A JUDGE THAT LOCATION OR THOSE MULTIPLE LOCATION OR THOSE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS ARE LIKELY TO CONTAIN LOCATIONS ARE LIKELY TO CONTAIN EVIDENCE OF THE CRIME THAT
[4:08]EVIDENCE OF THE CRIME THAT YOU’RE INVESTIGATING. YOU’RE INVESTIGATING. SO WHAT CAN WE FIND OUT WHEN SO WHAT CAN WE FIND OUT WHEN THIS MATERIAL IS RELEASED. THIS MATERIAL IS RELEASED. WE KNOW THERE WILL BE SOME WE KNOW THERE WILL BE SOME REDACTIONS. REDACTIONS. USUALLY THAT INVOLVES SOURCES USUALLY THAT INVOLVES SOURCES AND METHODS. AND METHODS. WHAT I WILL BE FOCUSING IN LIKE WHAT I WILL BE FOCUSING IN LIKE A LASER IS THE EVIDENCE OF WHO,
[4:23]A LASER IS THE EVIDENCE OF WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN AND WHY. WHAT, WHERE, WHEN AND WHY. WHO WAS IT DIRECTING THESE WHO WAS IT DIRECTING THESE VIOLATIONS, DIRECTING HUSH MONEY VIOLATIONS, DIRECTING HUSH MONEY PAYMENTS? PAYMENTS? HOW MUCH DID THE PRESIDENT KNOW HOW MUCH DID THE PRESIDENT KNOW AND WHEN? AND WHEN? AND REALLY WHAT ARE THE ORIGINS AND REALLY WHAT ARE THE ORIGINS OF ANY MONEY PA THAT CAME OUT OF
[4:36]OF ANY MONEY PA THAT CAME OUT OF THIS? THIS? WHAT ARE CONVERSATIONS LIKE IF WHAT ARE CONVERSATIONS LIKE IF THEY’RE TAPE RECORDED? THEY’RE TAPE RECORDED? ARE THERE FOREIGN CONNECTIONS TO ARE THERE FOREIGN CONNECTIONS TO THE HUSH MONEY PAYMENTS? THE HUSH MONEY PAYMENTS? THE WORLD IS OUR OYSTER TOMORROW THE WORLD IS OUR OYSTER TOMORROW AND IT’S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME. AND IT’S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME. >> LET ME JUST UNPACK SOME OF >> LET ME JUST UNPACK SOME OF THE THAT, FRANK.
[4:48]THE THAT, FRANK. THERE WAS SO MUCH GOOD THERE WAS SO MUCH GOOD INFORMATION THERE. INFORMATION THERE. AND LET’S SLOW THIS DOWN. AND LET’S SLOW THIS DOWN. THE WHO IS DONALD TRUMP. THE WHO IS DONALD TRUMP. WHO SIGNED THE WHAT, WHICH IS WHO SIGNED THE WHAT, WHICH IS THE CHECKS, FROM INSIDE THE OVAL THE CHECKS, FROM INSIDE THE OVAL OFFICE, RIGHT? OFFICE, RIGHT? WE SAW SOME OF THOSE CHECKS
[5:03]WE SAW SOME OF THOSE CHECKS REPRINTED IN "THE NEW YORK REPRINTED IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES." TIMES." AND THEY’VE BEEN REPORTED ON BY AND THEY’VE BEEN REPORTED ON BY OTHER NEWS ORGANIZATIONS. OTHER NEWS ORGANIZATIONS. >> WE SAW AT LEAST ONE WHILE HE >> WE SAW AT LEAST ONE WHILE HE WAS IN THE OVAL OFFICE HE WAS IN THE OVAL OFFICE HE SIGNED. SIGNED. NOW WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE
[5:16]NOW WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE OTHERS. OTHERS. BUT ALSO AS AN INVESTIGATOR, I BUT ALSO AS AN INVESTIGATOR, I WANT TO KNOW DID HE FULLY WANT TO KNOW DID HE FULLY DIRECT, UNDERSTAND, CONCUR WITH DIRECT, UNDERSTAND, CONCUR WITH THESE PAYMENTS EACH AND EVERY THESE PAYMENTS EACH AND EVERY TIME? TIME? DID HE UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL TO DID HE UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL TO WHICH THEY MIGHT POSE A
[5:29]WHICH THEY MIGHT POSE A VIOLATION OF LAW? VIOLATION OF LAW? THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO COME THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO COME OUT IF I THINK THIS IS WHERE THE OUT IF I THINK THIS IS WHERE THE JUDGE IS GOING. JUDGE IS GOING. WHEN HE SAYS THERE’S NATIONAL WHEN HE SAYS THERE’S NATIONAL IMPORTANCE TO RELEASING THIS IMPORTANCE TO RELEASING THIS MATERIAL, THAT WE NEED TO SEE MATERIAL, THAT WE NEED TO SEE IT, WE NEED TO KNOW, THAT’S WHAT
[5:42]IT, WE NEED TO KNOW, THAT’S WHAT I’M THINKING WE’RE GOING TO SEE, I’M THINKING WE’RE GOING TO SEE, CONNECTIONS TO THIS PRESIDENT CONNECTIONS TO THIS PRESIDENT AND POSSIBLY EVEN FROM THE MONEY AND POSSIBLY EVEN FROM THE MONEY COMING FROM SOME FOREIGN ENTITY COMING FROM SOME FOREIGN ENTITY THAT ACTUALLY IS SUPPORTING THE THAT ACTUALLY IS SUPPORTING THE PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT. >> GLENN KIRSCHNER, YOUR
[5:55]>> GLENN KIRSCHNER, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THESE DEVELOPMENTS THOUGHTS ON THESE DEVELOPMENTS AND WHAT WE MIGHT EXPECT AND WHAT WE MIGHT EXPECT TOMORROW. TOMORROW. >> NICOLLE, I WENT BACK TO THE >> NICOLLE, I WENT BACK TO THE JUDGE’S ORDERS OF TODAY TO SEE JUDGE’S ORDERS OF TODAY TO SEE PRECISELY WHAT IT WAS THE PRECISELY WHAT IT WAS THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
[6:09]SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK PROSECUTORS REPRESENTED TO HIM PROSECUTORS REPRESENTED TO HIM ON THIS ISSUE OF WHETHER THESE ON THIS ISSUE OF WHETHER THESE MATERIALS SHOULD BE UNSEALED OR MATERIALS SHOULD BE UNSEALED OR REMAIN SEALED. REMAIN SEALED. HERE’S WHAT HE SAID THAT REALLY HERE’S WHAT HE SAID THAT REALLY CAUGHT MY ATTENTION. CAUGHT MY ATTENTION. HE SAID, THE GOVERNMENT NOW HE SAID, THE GOVERNMENT NOW REPRESENTS THAT IT HAS CONCLUDED REPRESENTS THAT IT HAS CONCLUDED THE ASPECTS OF ITS INVESTIGATION
[6:23]THE ASPECTS OF ITS INVESTIGATION THAT JUSTIFIES THE CONTINUED THAT JUSTIFIES THE CONTINUED SEALING OF THE PORTIONS OF THE SEALING OF THE PORTIONS OF THE MATERIALS RELATELING TO COHEN’S MATERIALS RELATELING TO COHEN’S CAMPAIGN FINANCE VIOLATIONS. CAMPAIGN FINANCE VIOLATIONS. NOW, I THINK EVERYBODY READS NOW, I THINK EVERYBODY READS THAT AND HEARS THAT BECAUSE THE
[6:38]THAT AND HEARS THAT BECAUSE THE INVESTIGATION IS CONCLUDED, INVESTIGATION IS CONCLUDED, THERE WILL NEVER BE FUTURE THERE WILL NEVER BE FUTURE CHARGES BROUGHT. CHARGES BROUGHT. I THINK WE NEED TO PULL THOSE I THINK WE NEED TO PULL THOSE TWO THINGS APART. TWO THINGS APART. MIND YOU, I’M NOT SAYING THIS IS MIND YOU, I’M NOT SAYING THIS IS AN INDICATION THAT THERE WILL BE
[6:50]AN INDICATION THAT THERE WILL BE CHARGES BROUGHT BUT HERE’S WHAT CHARGES BROUGHT BUT HERE’S WHAT I CAN TELL YOU, NICOLLE, WHEN I CAN TELL YOU, NICOLLE, WHEN PROSECUTORS LOOK AT A CASE THAT PROSECUTORS LOOK AT A CASE THAT POTENTIALLY INVOLVES MULTIPLE POTENTIALLY INVOLVES MULTIPLE CONSPIRATORS, WE HAVE ONE CONSPIRATORS, WE HAVE ONE OVERARCHING GOAL.
[7:03]OVERARCHING GOAL. WE WANT TO TRY TO BRING A CASE WE WANT TO TRY TO BRING A CASE THAT CHARGES ALL OF THOSE THAT CHARGES ALL OF THOSE CONSPIRATORS IN ONE CASE TO BE CONSPIRATORS IN ONE CASE TO BE TRIED IN ONE TRIAL. TRIED IN ONE TRIAL. WHY? WHY? BECAUSE YOU DON’T WANT TO BREAK BECAUSE YOU DON’T WANT TO BREAK IT UP, TRY TWO, THREE IT UP, TRY TWO, THREE CO-CONSPIRATORS WHILE THE OTHERS CO-CONSPIRATORS WHILE THE OTHERS WAIT IN THE WINGS AND GET A
[7:17]WAIT IN THE WINGS AND GET A COMPLETE PREVIEW OF YOUR CASE COMPLETE PREVIEW OF YOUR CASE AND YOUR EVIDENCE DURING THE AND YOUR EVIDENCE DURING THE FIRST TRIAL. FIRST TRIAL. SO WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT MICHAEL SO WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT MICHAEL COHEN IS GUILTY OF CAMPAIGN COHEN IS GUILTY OF CAMPAIGN FINANCE VIOLATIONS. FINANCE VIOLATIONS. HE DID IT AT THE URGING AND WITH
[7:29]HE DID IT AT THE URGING AND WITH THE ASSISTANCE AND FOR THE THE ASSISTANCE AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF DONALD TRUMP. BENEFIT OF DONALD TRUMP. WE HAVE SOME INDICATION THERE WE HAVE SOME INDICATION THERE MAY BE EXPOSURE BY DON JR. AND MAY BE EXPOSURE BY DON JR. AND ALLEN WIESEL BERG ON THE MONEY ALLEN WIESEL BERG ON THE MONEY SIDE AND CHECK-WRITING SIDE.
[7:42]SIDE AND CHECK-WRITING SIDE. LET ME HYPOTHETICALLY COMPOSE IF LET ME HYPOTHETICALLY COMPOSE IF THERE’S A CONSPIRACY WITH ALL THERE’S A CONSPIRACY WITH ALL FOUR OF THESE PEOPLE AND WE KNOW FOUR OF THESE PEOPLE AND WE KNOW THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT CANNOT THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT CANNOT CHARGE THE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW CHARGE THE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE OFFICE OF LEGAL BECAUSE THE OFFICE OF LEGAL COUNSEL MEMO SAYS YOU CAN’T
[7:56]COUNSEL MEMO SAYS YOU CAN’T INDICT A SITTING PRESIDENT, THEN INDICT A SITTING PRESIDENT, THEN IT COULD BE THE SOUTHERN IT COULD BE THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK HAS AN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK HAS AN INTEREST IN BRINGING ONE UNIFIED INTEREST IN BRINGING ONE UNIFIED CONSPIRACY CASE AGAINST ALL FOUR
[8:08]CONSPIRACY CASE AGAINST ALL FOUR POSSIBLE CO-CONSPIRATORS THE DAY POSSIBLE CO-CONSPIRATORS THE DAY PRESIDENT TRUMP LEAVES OFFICE. PRESIDENT TRUMP LEAVES OFFICE. I’M NOT SAYING THAT’S GOING TO I’M NOT SAYING THAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN. HAPPEN. I’M SAYING I DON’T THINK WE CAN I’M SAYING I DON’T THINK WE CAN JUMP TO THE CONCLUSION BASED ON JUMP TO THE CONCLUSION BASED ON JUDGE PAULEY’S ORDER TODAY THERE
[8:21]JUDGE PAULEY’S ORDER TODAY THERE WILL NEVER BE CHARGES BROUGHT. WILL NEVER BE CHARGES BROUGHT. >> JEREMY BASH, LET ME JUST PLAY >> JEREMY BASH, LET ME JUST PLAY ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAS ESSENTIALLY PLEADED GUILTY TO ESSENTIALLY PLEADED GUILTY TO HIS ROLE IN THIS CONSPIRACY HIS ROLE IN THIS CONSPIRACY TESTIFYING TO THE ROLE AND TESTIFYING TO THE ROLE AND PARTICIPATION OF SOME OF THE PARTICIPATION OF SOME OF THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS JUST NOW NAMED
[8:35]OTHER INDIVIDUALS JUST NOW NAMED BY GLENN KIRSCHNER. BY GLENN KIRSCHNER. LET’S LISTEN TO MICHAEL COHEN. LET’S LISTEN TO MICHAEL COHEN. >> THIS $35,000 CHECK WAS ONE OF >> THIS $35,000 CHECK WAS ONE OF 11 CHECK I STALLMENTSNSTALLMENTS 11 CHECK I STALLMENTSNSTALLMENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WHILE HE WAS
[8:47]THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT. OTHER CHECKS TO REIMBURSE ME FOR OTHER CHECKS TO REIMBURSE ME FOR THE HUSH MONEY PAYMENTS WERE THE HUSH MONEY PAYMENTS WERE SIGNED BY DONALD TRUMP JR. AND SIGNED BY DONALD TRUMP JR. AND ALLEN WEISSELBERG. ALLEN WEISSELBERG. SEE FOR THAT EXAMPLE 5B.
[9:05]SEE FOR THAT EXAMPLE 5B. THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THUS WROTE A PERSONAL STATES THUS WROTE A PERSONAL CHECK FOR THE PAYMENT OF HUSH CHECK FOR THE PAYMENT OF HUSH MONEY AS PART OF A CRIMINAL MONEY AS PART OF A CRIMINAL SCHEME TO VIOLATE CAMPAIGN SCHEME TO VIOLATE CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAWS. FINANCE LAWS. >> JEREMY?
[9:18]>> JEREMY? >> NICOLLE, I THINK WHAT’S >> NICOLLE, I THINK WHAT’S IMPORTANT HERE IS THAT WHEN THE IMPORTANT HERE IS THAT WHEN THE JUDGE GRANTS THE AUTHORITY SFT JUDGE GRANTS THE AUTHORITY SFT PROSECUTORS AND FEDERAL PROSECUTORS AND FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS ACCESS TO DONALD INVESTIGATORS ACCESS TO DONALD TRUMP’S PERSONAL ATTORNEY, THEY TRUMP’S PERSONAL ATTORNEY, THEY HAD TO SATISFY THEMSELVES THAT HAD TO SATISFY THEMSELVES THAT THAT MATERIAL WOULD NOT BE
[9:32]THAT MATERIAL WOULD NOT BE PROTECTED BY THE ATTORNEY/CLIENT PROTECTED BY THE ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVILEGE. PRIVILEGE. THEY HAD TO SATISFY THEMSELVES THEY HAD TO SATISFY THEMSELVES THAT INFORMATION THAT WAS IN THE THAT INFORMATION THAT WAS IN THE CUSTODY OF MICHAEL COHEN, HIS CUSTODY OF MICHAEL COHEN, HIS PLACE OF RESIDENCE, HIS OFFICE, PLACE OF RESIDENCE, HIS OFFICE, WAS SO IMPORTANT TO GET AT THE WAS SO IMPORTANT TO GET AT THE UNDERLYING CRIMINAL CASE AND
[9:44]UNDERLYING CRIMINAL CASE AND CLEARLY THE JUDGE SATISFIED CLEARLY THE JUDGE SATISFIED HIMSELF IN THAT MANNER. HIMSELF IN THAT MANNER. AND NOW WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS AND NOW WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS THAT ASPECT, THAT JUSTIFICATION THAT ASPECT, THAT JUSTIFICATION IS COMPLETE, AND NOW THE IS COMPLETE, AND NOW THE INFORMATION CAN BE REVEALED INFORMATION CAN BE REVEALED PUBLICLY. PUBLICLY. I EXPECT WHAT THAT LIKELY MEANS I EXPECT WHAT THAT LIKELY MEANS IS THAT THE INITIAL INFORMATION
[9:58]IS THAT THE INITIAL INFORMATION THAT FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS AND THAT FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS AND PROSECUTORS PUT FORWARD WAS A PROSECUTORS PUT FORWARD WAS A CLEAR TIE BETWEEN MICHAEL COHEN CLEAR TIE BETWEEN MICHAEL COHEN AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, AND THAT BEARS ON THE STATES, AND THAT BEARS ON THE PRESIDENT PRESIDENT PRESIDENT’S ILLEGAL EXPOSURE. PRESIDENT’S ILLEGAL EXPOSURE. IT BEARS ON ISSUES THAT CONGRESS
[10:11]IT BEARS ON ISSUES THAT CONGRESS MIGHT CONSIDER IN ANALYZING HIGH MIGHT CONSIDER IN ANALYZING HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS. CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS. IT COULD ALSO POTENTIALLY MEAN IT COULD ALSO POTENTIALLY MEAN ASPECTS OF WHETHER OR NOT THE ASPECTS OF WHETHER OR NOT THE PRESIDENT COULD BE CHARGED IN PRESIDENT COULD BE CHARGED IN THE FUTURE AND WHETHER OR NOT THE FUTURE AND WHETHER OR NOT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT RELIED ON THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT RELIED ON EXISTING JUSTICE DEPARTMENT EXISTING JUSTICE DEPARTMENT POLICY.
[10:23]POLICY. BUT I THINK IT’S A VERY BUT I THINK IT’S A VERY SIGNIFICANT STECH,P AND TOMORROW SIGNIFICANT STECH,P AND TOMORROW WILL KNOW A LOT MORE. WILL KNOW A LOT MORE. >> ROBERT COSTA, PEOPLE CLOSE TO >> ROBERT COSTA, PEOPLE CLOSE TO THE PRESIDENT ALWAYS DESCRIBE THE PRESIDENT ALWAYS DESCRIBE THE ANXIETY AROUND SDNY AND THE ANXIETY AROUND SDNY AND MICHAEL COHEN AND THESE RAIDS AS
[10:36]MICHAEL COHEN AND THESE RAIDS AS A FAR GRAVER EMBARRASSMENT TO A FAR GRAVER EMBARRASSMENT TO DONALD TRUMP IN TERMS OF DONALD TRUMP IN TERMS OF REVEALING SOME OF HIS LEAST REVEALING SOME OF HIS LEAST ELEGANT PERSONAL CONDUCT IF YOU ELEGANT PERSONAL CONDUCT IF YOU WILL AND FAR GREATER LEGAL RISK
[10:49]WILL AND FAR GREATER LEGAL RISK TO THE PRESIDENT IN TERMS OF HIS TO THE PRESIDENT IN TERMS OF HIS ROLE HERE AS UNINDICTED ROLE HERE AS UNINDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR IN THE HUSH MONEY CO-CONSPIRATOR IN THE HUSH MONEY SCHEME. SCHEME. AND IF SOME SORT OF CONSPIRACY AND IF SOME SORT OF CONSPIRACY IS CHARGED WHEN HE LEAVES THE IS CHARGED WHEN HE LEAVES THE OFFICE. OFFICE. YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS TODAY.
[11:01]YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS TODAY. >> IT DOES LOOM OVER HIM IN >> IT DOES LOOM OVER HIM IN TERMS OF SOMETHING THAT CAN COME TERMS OF SOMETHING THAT CAN COME DOWN THE HORIZON. DOWN THE HORIZON. BUT WHEN YOU TALK TO WHITE HOUSE BUT WHEN YOU TALK TO WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS AND TRUMP POLITICAL OFFICIALS AND TRUMP POLITICAL ADVISERS, THEY SAY THIS IS ADVISERS, THEY SAY THIS IS PERHAPS 10 TO 20 ITEMS ON THE
[11:13]PERHAPS 10 TO 20 ITEMS ON THE LIST CONGRESS AND HOUSE LIST CONGRESS AND HOUSE DEMOCRATS ARE LOOKING OVER IN DEMOCRATS ARE LOOKING OVER IN TERMS OF THE PRESIDENT’S CONDUCT TERMS OF THE PRESIDENT’S CONDUCT THAT COULD BE USED TO BRING THAT COULD BE USED TO BRING IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS AGAINST IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS AGAINST HIM IN THE COMING MONTHS. HIM IN THE COMING MONTHS. AND THEY ALSO BELIEVE A JUSTICE AND THEY ALSO BELIEVE A JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH
[11:26]DEPARTMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL BARR AT ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL BARR AT THE HELM, IS NOT GOING TO IN ANY THE HELM, IS NOT GOING TO IN ANY WAY GO AGAINST THE OFFICE OF WAY GO AGAINST THE OFFICE OF LEGAL COUNSEL GUIDELINES. LEGAL COUNSEL GUIDELINES. SO THEY FEEL IT IS A THREAT SO THEY FEEL IT IS A THREAT POTENTIALLY BUT THEY ARE POTENTIALLY BUT THEY ARE INSULATED POLITICALLY.
[11:39]INSULATED POLITICALLY. >> THEY’RE INSULATED LEGALLY >> THEY’RE INSULATED LEGALLY LIKELY AS WELL, AS ROBERT COSTA LIKELY AS WELL, AS ROBERT COSTA IS EXACTLY RIGHT. IS EXACTLY RIGHT. BUT WHAT SO ENRAGED THE BUT WHAT SO ENRAGED THE PRESIDENT, I REMEMBER WHETHER PRESIDENT, I REMEMBER WHETHER THE RAIDS HAPPENED, HE WAS AT A THE RAIDS HAPPENED, HE WAS AT A NATIONAL SECURITY MEETING SITE.
[11:53]NATIONAL SECURITY MEETING SITE. I BELIEVE THERE WERE GENERALS IN I BELIEVE THERE WERE GENERALS IN THE ROOSEVELT ROOM OR CABINET THE ROOSEVELT ROOM OR CABINET ROOM AND DESCRIBED IT AS AN ROOM AND DESCRIBED IT AS AN ATTACK ON OUR NATION. ATTACK ON OUR NATION. WE DON’T NEED TO GUESS HOW THE WE DON’T NEED TO GUESS HOW THE PRESIDENT FEELS ABOUT THE COHEN PRESIDENT FEELS ABOUT THE COHEN INVESTIGATION, COHEN PROSECUTION INVESTIGATION, COHEN PROSECUTION AND THIS EVIDENCE. AND THIS EVIDENCE. >> LET’S WRAP IT UP INTO
[12:06]>> LET’S WRAP IT UP INTO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIGGER AND SOMETHING A LITTLE BIGGER AND BRING BILL BARR INTO THIS. BRING BILL BARR INTO THIS. RIGHT BEFORE HE WAS APPOINTED, RIGHT BEFORE HE WAS APPOINTED, THE SDNY WAS ALREADY LOOKING THE SDNY WAS ALREADY LOOKING INTO THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION. INTO THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION. THERE WERE MEETINGS ABOUT TO BE THERE WERE MEETINGS ABOUT TO BE SET UP WITH THE TRUMP AND
[12:18]SET UP WITH THE TRUMP AND SUDDENLY THE MEETINGS NEVER SUDDENLY THE MEETINGS NEVER HAPPENED. HAPPENED. ONCE BARR CAME IN, NOTHING WENT ONCE BARR CAME IN, NOTHING WENT FORWARD. FORWARD. BILL BARR HAS TO ANSWER TO THAT. BILL BARR HAS TO ANSWER TO THAT. >> TO WHOM? >> TO WHOM? >> THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. >> THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. >> HE’S ABOUT TO BE HELD IN >> HE’S ABOUT TO BE HELD IN CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS.
[12:31]CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS. HE ANSWERS FOR A PRESIDENT. HE ANSWERS FOR A PRESIDENT. TO WHOM? TO WHOM? >> THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION. >> THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION. BUT THE REALITY IS RIGHT NOW AS BUT THE REALITY IS RIGHT NOW AS LONG AS BILL BAR IS IN THAT LONG AS BILL BAR IS IN THAT SEAT, IT’S LIMITED WHAT WE CAN SEAT, IT’S LIMITED WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH. ACCOMPLISH. MY FRIEND IS SITTING IN JAIL FOR
[12:43]MY FRIEND IS SITTING IN JAIL FOR A CRIME HE COMMITTED ON THE A CRIME HE COMMITTED ON THE DIRECTION AND BENEFIT OF THE DIRECTION AND BENEFIT OF THE PRESIDENT AND HOPEFULLY ONE DAY PRESIDENT AND HOPEFULLY ONE DAY THE PRESIDENT WILL HAVE TO THE PRESIDENT WILL HAVE TO ANSWER FOR THAT. ANSWER FOR THAT. BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A HEAD OF BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A HEAD OF THE DOJ, APPOINTED BY THE THE DOJ, APPOINTED BY THE PRESIDENT, HIS IN-HOUSE PRESIDENT, HIS IN-HOUSE ATTORNEY, WHO BASICALLY WILL ATTORNEY, WHO BASICALLY WILL CONTINUE TO RUN INTERFERENCE FOR
[12:58]CONTINUE TO RUN INTERFERENCE FOR ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH THE ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION. TRUMP ORGANIZATION. >> IT’S MORE THAN INTERFERENCE. >> IT’S MORE THAN INTERFERENCE. HE’S INVESTIGATING THE CIA. HE’S INVESTIGATING THE CIA. >> LET ME ASK ONE MORE QUESTION, >> LET ME ASK ONE MORE QUESTION, WHERE IS WEISSELBERG? WHERE IS WEISSELBERG? WHY IS IT HE DOESN’T FALL UNDER WHY IS IT HE DOESN’T FALL UNDER EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE?
[13:10]EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE? WHY ISN’T WEISSELBERG BEING WHY ISN’T WEISSELBERG BEING CALLED TO CONGRESS TO ASK ABOUT CALLED TO CONGRESS TO ASK ABOUT OTHER THINGS? OTHER THINGS? THIS CAN’T STOP HERE. THIS CAN’T STOP HERE. >> YOU’RE ALL GETTING A >> YOU’RE ALL GETTING A DOUBLEHEADER. DOUBLEHEADER. I WANT ALL OF YOUR THOUGHTS ON I WANT ALL OF YOUR THOUGHTS ON BARR AND ISSUES DONNY RAISES.
[13:26]BARR AND ISSUES DONNY RAISES. BUT I WANT TO PUT OUT THESE TWO BUT I WANT TO PUT OUT THESE TWO OTHER TOXIC NARRATIVES THAT OTHER TOXIC NARRATIVES THAT COULD MAKE A PLAY ON RACISM MAKE COULD MAKE A PLAY ON RACISM MAKE SENSE FOR DONALD TRUMP. SENSE FOR DONALD TRUMP. JEFFREY EPSTEIN SEEN RUBBING JEFFREY EPSTEIN SEEN RUBBING SHOULDERS WITH DONALD TRUMP SHOULDERS WITH DONALD TRUMP WHILE GIRLS ARE DANCING AT
[13:39]WHILE GIRLS ARE DANCING AT MAR-A-LAGO. MAR-A-LAGO. OUR COLLEAGUE MIKA BRZEZINSKI OUR COLLEAGUE MIKA BRZEZINSKI NARRATED SOME OF THAT. NARRATED SOME OF THAT. I THINK WE HAVE THAT. I THINK WE HAVE THAT. LET’S WATCH. LET’S WATCH. >> TRUMP IS SURROUNDED BY WOMEN >> TRUMP IS SURROUNDED BY WOMEN AS MUSIC BURGLARIES IN THELAIRS
[13:58]AS MUSIC BURGLARIES IN THELAIRS BACKGROUND. BACKGROUND. THEN HE MEETS GUESTS, AMONG THEM THEN HE MEETS GUESTS, AMONG THEM FINANCIER JEFFREY EPSTEIN, MORE FINANCIER JEFFREY EPSTEIN, MORE THAN A DECADE BEFORE THE GUILTY THAN A DECADE BEFORE THE GUILTY PLEA. PLEA. AND THEN TRUMP IS TALKING TO AND THEN TRUMP IS TALKING TO EPSTEIN AND ANOTHER MAN AS WOMEN
[14:10]EPSTEIN AND ANOTHER MAN AS WOMEN ARE DANCING IN FRONT OF HIM. ARE DANCING IN FRONT OF HIM. TRUMP GOES BETWEEN DANCING AND TRUMP GOES BETWEEN DANCING AND POINTING TO WOMEN AND TELLING POINTING TO WOMEN AND TELLING EPSTEIN ABOUT THE CAMERAS. EPSTEIN ABOUT THE CAMERAS. THOUGH EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY, THOUGH EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY, IT’S DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND AS
[14:23]IT’S DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND AS THEY DISCUSS THE WOMEN AND THEIR THEY DISCUSS THE WOMEN AND THEIR APPEARANCES. APPEARANCES. TRUMP GESTURES TO ONE AND TRUMP GESTURES TO ONE AND APPEARS TO SAY TO EPSTEIN, LOOK APPEARS TO SAY TO EPSTEIN, LOOK AT HER BACK THERE. AT HER BACK THERE. SHE’S HOT.
[14:35]SHE’S HOT. AND THEN TRUMP SAYS SOMETHING AND THEN TRUMP SAYS SOMETHING ELSE INTO EPSTEIN’S EAR THAT ELSE INTO EPSTEIN’S EAR THAT MAKES HIM DOUBLE OVER WITH MAKES HIM DOUBLE OVER WITH LAUGHTER. LAUGHTER. >> ROBERT COSTA, YOU WERE THE >> ROBERT COSTA, YOU WERE THE ONE WHO STOPPED ME IN MY TRACKS ONE WHO STOPPED ME IN MY TRACKS WHEN YOU SAID ON THIS SHOW ABOUT
[14:47]WHEN YOU SAID ON THIS SHOW ABOUT A WEEK AGO THAT EVERY JOURNALIST A WEEK AGO THAT EVERY JOURNALIST WHO COVERS THIS WHITE HOUSE HAS WHO COVERS THIS WHITE HOUSE HAS TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT TRUMP’S KNOWLEDGE WAS OF THE TRUMP’S KNOWLEDGE WAS OF THE NATURE OF EPSTEIN’S CONDUCT AND NATURE OF EPSTEIN’S CONDUCT AND WHEN THEY BECAME -- WHEN HE WHEN THEY BECAME -- WHEN HE BECAME AWARE OF WHAT IS CLEARLY
[15:02]BECAME AWARE OF WHAT IS CLEARLY NOW CRIMINALITY AND REAL SEXUAL NOW CRIMINALITY AND REAL SEXUAL DEVIANCE. DEVIANCE. WHAT DO YOU THINK WHEN YOU SEE WHAT DO YOU THINK WHEN YOU SEE THAT TAPE? THAT TAPE? DO YOU THINK ANYONE AT THE WHITE DO YOU THINK ANYONE AT THE WHITE HOUSE IS CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE HOUSE IS CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE IMAGES? IMAGES? >> THEY ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE >> THEY ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE IT’S A RELATIONSHIP THE IT’S A RELATIONSHIP THE PRESIDENT DOES NOT WANT TO TALK PRESIDENT DOES NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT AT ALL PUBLICLY OR
[15:14]ABOUT AT ALL PUBLICLY OR PRIVATELY. PRIVATELY. WHENEVER HE’S ASKED ABOUT IT, IN WHENEVER HE’S ASKED ABOUT IT, IN EITHER CIRCUMSTANCE, MY SOURCES EITHER CIRCUMSTANCE, MY SOURCES SAY HE DISMISSES IT AND SAYS HE SAY HE DISMISSES IT AND SAYS HE HAD A FALLING OUT WITH EPSTEIN HAD A FALLING OUT WITH EPSTEIN AND LEAVES IT AT THAT. AND LEAVES IT AT THAT. BUT THE FOOTAGE REVEALS DID HE
[15:26]BUT THE FOOTAGE REVEALS DID HE HAVE SOME KIND OF RELATIONSHIP HAVE SOME KIND OF RELATIONSHIP WITHIN THE CULTURE OF PALM BEACH WITHIN THE CULTURE OF PALM BEACH BACK IN 1992 AND THROUGHOUT THE BACK IN 1992 AND THROUGHOUT THE MID-AND EARLY 1990s. MID-AND EARLY 1990s. THERE ARE JUST SO MANY QUESTIONS THERE ARE JUST SO MANY QUESTIONS THAT HANG OUT THERE THAT WHY WAS THAT HANG OUT THERE THAT WHY WAS HE STEEP AT MAR-A-LAGO.
[15:39]HE STEEP AT MAR-A-LAGO. WHAT WAS THE EXTENT OF THE WHAT WAS THE EXTENT OF THE RELATIONSHIP? RELATIONSHIP? AND AS REPORTERS ALWAYS SAY, ARE AND AS REPORTERS ALWAYS SAY, ARE THERE OTHER DOCUMENTS? THERE OTHER DOCUMENTS? THIS VIDEO TELLS US A LITTLE THIS VIDEO TELLS US A LITTLE BIT. BIT. WHAT WAS THE EXTENT OF THIS WHAT WAS THE EXTENT OF THIS FINANCIAL RELATIONSHIP THAT FELL FINANCIAL RELATIONSHIP THAT FELL APART ABOUT A DECADE AGO
[15:52]APART ABOUT A DECADE AGO ACCORDING TO THE PRESIDENT? ACCORDING TO THE PRESIDENT? IT WAS A BIG REPORTING TARGET. IT WAS A BIG REPORTING TARGET. EVERYBODY IS WORKING HARD WHO’S EVERYBODY IS WORKING HARD WHO’S A NONPARTISAN REPORTER TRYING TO A NONPARTISAN REPORTER TRYING TO FIND THE FACTS. FIND THE FACTS. BUT A LOT OF FACTS STILL REMAIN BUT A LOT OF FACTS STILL REMAIN TO BE UNCOVERED. TO BE UNCOVERED. >> AND I THINK THAT PURSUIT OF
[16:05]>> AND I THINK THAT PURSUIT OF THE TRUTH, AS BOB’S COLLEAGUE THE TRUTH, AS BOB’S COLLEAGUE BOB WOODWARD SAYS, THE TRUTH BOB WOODWARD SAYS, THE TRUTH WILL EMERGE ABOUT THE NATURE OF WILL EMERGE ABOUT THE NATURE OF THAT RELATIONSHIP. THAT RELATIONSHIP. >> I THINK BOB AND ALL OF HIS >> I THINK BOB AND ALL OF HIS COLLEAGUES EVERY DAY FROM HERE COLLEAGUES EVERY DAY FROM HERE TO 2020, EVERY PRESSER, I DON’T
[16:17]TO 2020, EVERY PRESSER, I DON’T CARE WHAT IT’S ABOUT, IT’S NOT CARE WHAT IT’S ABOUT, IT’S NOT GOOD ENOUGH WHEN HE SAYS I BROKE GOOD ENOUGH WHEN HE SAYS I BROKE OFF MY RELATIONSHIP. OFF MY RELATIONSHIP. BY THE WAY, THIS WAS A MAN WHO BY THE WAY, THIS WAS A MAN WHO SAID I WAS FRIENDS WITH HIM FOR SAID I WAS FRIENDS WITH HIM FOR 15 YEARS. 15 YEARS. >> LET’S PUT IT UP.
[16:29]>> LET’S PUT IT UP. QUOTE, HE’S A LOT OF FUN TO BE QUOTE, HE’S A LOT OF FUN TO BE WITH. WITH. IT’S EVEN SAID HE LIKES IT’S EVEN SAID HE LIKES BEAUTIFUL WOMEN AS MUCH AS I DO. BEAUTIFUL WOMEN AS MUCH AS I DO. AND MANY OF THEM ARE ON THE AND MANY OF THEM ARE ON THE YOUNGER SIDE. YOUNGER SIDE. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, JEFFREY NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, JEFFREY ENJOYS THE SOCIAL LIFE. ENJOYS THE SOCIAL LIFE. EVEN THAT TO BOB COSTA’S POINT,
[16:42]EVEN THAT TO BOB COSTA’S POINT, 2002, TRUMP HAD KNOWLEDGE THAT 2002, TRUMP HAD KNOWLEDGE THAT EPSTEIN LIKED WOMEN WHO WERE, EPSTEIN LIKED WOMEN WHO WERE, QUOTE, ON THE YOUNGER SIDE. QUOTE, ON THE YOUNGER SIDE. >> HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU SEE >> HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU SEE HIM? HIM? WAS IT ONE? WAS IT ONE? WAS IT 100? WAS IT 100? WAS HE AT YOUR HOUSE? WAS HE AT YOUR HOUSE? MAKE HIM LIE. MAKE HIM LIE. I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING RIGHT I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING RIGHT NOW AS WE’RE SITTING HERE, MR.
[16:56]NOW AS WE’RE SITTING HERE, MR. EPSTEIN IS IN A LITTLE BOX EPSTEIN IS IN A LITTLE BOX SOMEWHERE SITTING, AND JOYCE SOMEWHERE SITTING, AND JOYCE VANCE TWEETED ABOUT THIS, WITH VANCE TWEETED ABOUT THIS, WITH THE SDNY AND THEY ARE SAYING WE THE SDNY AND THEY ARE SAYING WE WANT A COMPLETE OPERATION WANT A COMPLETE OPERATION AGREEMENT. AGREEMENT. ANYTHING YOU KNOW DID EVERYTHING ANYTHING YOU KNOW DID EVERYTHING ILLEGAL.
[17:08]ILLEGAL. THERE ARE A LOT OF POWERFUL MEN THERE ARE A LOT OF POWERFUL MEN I THINK HAVING SLEEPNESSLESS RIG I THINK HAVING SLEEPNESSLESS RIG BUT LET HIM GET ANGRY AND STOMP BUT LET HIM GET ANGRY AND STOMP OUT, WHATEVER. OUT, WHATEVER. KEEP PUTTING HIM AGAINST THE
[17:20]KEEP PUTTING HIM AGAINST THE WALL ON THIS. WALL ON THIS. BASED ON THAT ALONE, WE’RE NOT BASED ON THAT ALONE, WE’RE NOT ACCUSING MR. TRUMP OF EVERYTHING ACCUSING MR. TRUMP OF EVERYTHING BUT HIS ANSWER OF I BROKE OFF MY BUT HIS ANSWER OF I BROKE OFF MY FRIENDSHIP WITH HIM WAS NOT GOOD FRIENDSHIP WITH HIM WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. ENOUGH. WHAT WAS THAT FRIENDSHIP? WHAT WAS THAT FRIENDSHIP? >> FRANK FIGLIUZZI, YOU AGREE
[17:33]>> FRANK FIGLIUZZI, YOU AGREE WITH THAT? WITH THAT? >> OH, YEAH. >> OH, YEAH. HERE’S WHY PEOPLE ARE SWEATING HERE’S WHY PEOPLE ARE SWEATING THE ELECTRONIC DEVICE FORENSICS THE ELECTRONIC DEVICE FORENSICS THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW COMING OUT OF THE MOST RECENT COMING OUT OF THE MOST RECENT SEARCH OF EPSTEIN’S HOUSE IN NEW SEARCH OF EPSTEIN’S HOUSE IN NEW YORK AND PALM BEACH ARE GOING TO YORK AND PALM BEACH ARE GOING TO BE SCARY.
[17:46]BE SCARY. THEY’RE GOING TO FIND EVIDENCE THEY’RE GOING TO FIND EVIDENCE AND IT MIGHT BE OLD, IT MIGHT BE AND IT MIGHT BE OLD, IT MIGHT BE MORE CURRENT. MORE CURRENT. BUT THEY WILL FIND EVIDENCE BUT THEY WILL FIND EVIDENCE OTHERS WERE INVOLVED AND THE OTHERS WERE INVOLVED AND THE FULLER EXCEPT TO WHICH-- EXTENT
[18:03]FULLER EXCEPT TO WHICH-- EXTENT WHICH CHILDREN ARE BEING WHICH CHILDREN ARE BEING EXPLOITED. EXPLOITED. I ASK YOUR VIEWERS OF ANY VIDEO I ASK YOUR VIEWERS OF ANY VIDEO YOU PLAYED AND ASK YOURSELF S. YOU PLAYED AND ASK YOURSELF S. WITH THE UNDERSTANDING WITH THE UNDERSTANDING APPEARANCES COUNT, IS THIS THE APPEARANCES COUNT, IS THIS THE BEHAVIOR OF SOMEBODY ON THIS BEHAVIOR OF SOMEBODY ON THIS VIDEO WHO IS DISTANT, BARELY VIDEO WHO IS DISTANT, BARELY KNOWS THIS ACQUAINTANCE, OR IS KNOWS THIS ACQUAINTANCE, OR IS IT SOMEONE WHO FEELS QUITE
[18:16]IT SOMEONE WHO FEELS QUITE COMFORTABLE INTERACTING WITH COMFORTABLE INTERACTING WITH EPSTEIN, JOKING. EPSTEIN, JOKING. WHEN YOU’RE SEEING VIDEO -- AND WHEN YOU’RE SEEING VIDEO -- AND I HAVE SEEN THIS ON I HAVE SEEN THIS ON SURVEILLANCES, PEOPLE JOKING SURVEILLANCES, PEOPLE JOKING TOGETHER, LAUGHING IT UP, THOSE TOGETHER, LAUGHING IT UP, THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO KNOW EACH OTHER ARE PEOPLE WHO KNOW EACH OTHER AND KNOW EACH OTHER WELL.
[18:30]AND KNOW EACH OTHER WELL. COMBINE IT WITH THE QUOTE YOU COMBINE IT WITH THE QUOTE YOU PUT UP, YEAH, HE LIKES THEM ON PUT UP, YEAH, HE LIKES THEM ON THE YOUNG SIDE, YOU HAVE TO ASK THE YOUNG SIDE, YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, IS THIS PRESIDENT YOURSELF, IS THIS PRESIDENT KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT EPSTEIN’S KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT EPSTEIN’S ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR WITH CHILDREN?
[18:42]ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR WITH CHILDREN? >> I WANT TO ASK YOU A CULTURE >> I WANT TO ASK YOU A CULTURE QUESTION. QUESTION. BECAUSE I THINK THE CULTURE ON BECAUSE I THINK THE CULTURE ON DONALD TRUMP’S VIEWS ON WOMEN. DONALD TRUMP’S VIEWS ON WOMEN. PEOPLE SAY "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD" PEOPLE SAY "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD" HAPPENED BEFORE THE ELECTION. HAPPENED BEFORE THE ELECTION. PEOPLE KNEW WHAT THEY WERE PEOPLE KNEW WHAT THEY WERE GETTING. GETTING. THEY KNEW THEY WERE GETTING THEY KNEW THEY WERE GETTING SOMEONE WHO BELIEVED IF YOU’RE SOMEONE WHO BELIEVED IF YOU’RE FAMOUS, WOMEN CAN LET YOU DO
[18:56]FAMOUS, WOMEN CAN LET YOU DO EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING. YOU CAN GRAB THEM IN THE BLEEP. YOU CAN GRAB THEM IN THE BLEEP. NOW WE KNOW AS RECENTLY AS THREE NOW WE KNOW AS RECENTLY AS THREE WEEKS AGO MEGHAN TULI FROM "THE WEEKS AGO MEGHAN TULI FROM "THE NEW YORK TIMES" SAT ON OUR SET NEW YORK TIMES" SAT ON OUR SET AND DESCRIBED A CREDIBLE RAPE
[19:09]AND DESCRIBED A CREDIBLE RAPE ACCUSATION FROM E. JEAN CARROLL ACCUSATION FROM E. JEAN CARROLL IN A DRESSING ROOM. IN A DRESSING ROOM. THIS IS A MAN ACCUSED OF SEXUAL THIS IS A MAN ACCUSED OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT, SEXUAL MISCONDUCT HARASSMENT, SEXUAL MISCONDUCT AND NOW RAPE BY MORE THAN A AND NOW RAPE BY MORE THAN A DOZEN WOMEN AND THIS IS AN DOZEN WOMEN AND THIS IS AN ASSOCIATION WITH AN ADMITTED
[19:22]ASSOCIATION WITH AN ADMITTED SELF-UL PREDATOR AND NOW SOMEONE SELF-UL PREDATOR AND NOW SOMEONE WHO’S ACCUSED OF SEX TRAFFICKING WHO’S ACCUSED OF SEX TRAFFICKING OF MINOR GIRLS. OF MINOR GIRLS. WHAT DOES THE CULTURE LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES THE CULTURE LOOK LIKE? HOW DO DEMOCRATS BEGIN TO TELL A HOW DO DEMOCRATS BEGIN TO TELL A POLITICAL STORY ABOUT THAT?
[19:37]POLITICAL STORY ABOUT THAT? >> I THINK IT’S CONNECTED IN >> I THINK IT’S CONNECTED IN IMPORTANT WAYS TO THE TWO OTHER IMPORTANT WAYS TO THE TWO OTHER BIG HEADLINES OF THE DAY, BIG HEADLINES OF THE DAY, NICOLLE. NICOLLE. THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK PROSECUTION OF MICHAEL YORK PROSECUTION OF MICHAEL COHEN AND INDIVIDUAL ONE WAS COHEN AND INDIVIDUAL ONE WAS FUNDAMENTALLY ABOUT HUSH MONEY FUNDAMENTALLY ABOUT HUSH MONEY PAYMENTS TO WOMEN, TO
[19:51]PAYMENTS TO WOMEN, TO PORNOGRAPHY STARS, TO ADULT FILM PORNOGRAPHY STARS, TO ADULT FILM ACTRESSES, TO COVER UP THE ACTRESSES, TO COVER UP THE RELATIONSHIP THEM HAD WITH RELATIONSHIP THEM HAD WITH DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE HE FEARED DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE HE FEARED IT WOULD HURT HIS ELECTION IT WOULD HURT HIS ELECTION CHANCES AND THOSE WERE ELECTION CHANCES AND THOSE WERE ELECTION LAW VIOLATIONS. LAW VIOLATIONS. AND SECOND, OF COURSE, THE WAY
[20:04]AND SECOND, OF COURSE, THE WAY HE TREATS WOMEN, MEMBERS OF HE TREATS WOMEN, MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, ELECTED OFFICIALS, THE CONGRESS, ELECTED OFFICIALS, THE WAY HE SINGLES THEM OUT OR WAY HE SINGLES THEM OUT OR CRITICISM FOR RACIST TWEETS FOR CRITICISM FOR RACIST TWEETS FOR HIS OWN BRAND OF WHITE HIS OWN BRAND OF WHITE NATIONALISM. NATIONALISM. HERE WE HAVE A MAN ACROSS THE
[20:17]HERE WE HAVE A MAN ACROSS THE BOARD WHO IS NOT ONLY A BOARD WHO IS NOT ONLY A WOMANIZER, NOT ONLY A SERIAL WOMANIZER, NOT ONLY A SERIAL ABUSER OF WOMEN, HE’S ACCUSED ABUSER OF WOMEN, HE’S ACCUSED CREDIBLY OF ASSAULT, RAPE, CREDIBLY OF ASSAULT, RAPE, CRIMINALITY INVOLVING HIMSELF CRIMINALITY INVOLVING HIMSELF WITH SEX TRAFFICKING.
[20:29]WITH SEX TRAFFICKING. WHAT MORE DO WE NEED TO WHAT MORE DO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THIS UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THIS MAN’S CHARACTER? MAN’S CHARACTER? >> GLENN KIRSCHNER, I WILL GIVE >> GLENN KIRSCHNER, I WILL GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD. YOU THE LAST WORD. >> SO HERE’S THE GREAT UNKNOWN >> SO HERE’S THE GREAT UNKNOWN WHEN IT COMES TO HOW THE EPSTEIN WHEN IT COMES TO HOW THE EPSTEIN MATTER WILL PLAY OUT.
[20:42]MATTER WILL PLAY OUT. IT’S BILL BARR. IT’S BILL BARR. EPSTEIN HAS ALREADY BEEN THE EPSTEIN HAS ALREADY BEEN THE DOWNFALL OF SECRETARY OF LABOR DOWNFALL OF SECRETARY OF LABOR ACOSTA WHEN IT WAS EXPOSED THAT ACOSTA WHEN IT WAS EXPOSED THAT WHEN HE WAS U.S. ATTORNEY, HE WHEN HE WAS U.S. ATTORNEY, HE CUT THIS UGLY, UNPRECEDENTED
[20:57]CUT THIS UGLY, UNPRECEDENTED NON-PROSECUTION AGREEMENT ON NON-PROSECUTION AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF EPSTEIN. BEHALF OF EPSTEIN. IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS DRAFTED BY IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS DRAFTED BY AN EPSTEIN PUBLIC RELATIONS AN EPSTEIN PUBLIC RELATIONS FLAK, TO GOODNESS SAKE. FLAK, TO GOODNESS SAKE. SO IN THE NORMAL PROSECUTORIAL SO IN THE NORMAL PROSECUTORIAL WORLD, WE WOULD NOW BE LOOKING
[21:10]WORLD, WE WOULD NOW BE LOOKING AT THE EPSTEIN PROSECUTION BEING AT THE EPSTEIN PROSECUTION BEING RUN OUT OF THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT RUN OUT OF THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK AND THINK OKAY, OF NEW YORK AND THINK OKAY, THEY’VE GOT THE GOODS. THEY’VE GOT THE GOODS. THEY’RE GOING TO DETAIN HIM. THEY’RE GOING TO DETAIN HIM. THEY’RE GOING TO GO AT HIM HARD. THEY’RE GOING TO GO AT HIM HARD. MAYBE CONSIDER BRINGING HIM ON MAYBE CONSIDER BRINGING HIM ON AS A COOPERATOR SO HE CAN EXPOSE
[21:22]AS A COOPERATOR SO HE CAN EXPOSE EVERYBODY ELSE WHO WAS INVOLVED EVERYBODY ELSE WHO WAS INVOLVED IN HIS UGLY, UNSEEMLY SEX RING. IN HIS UGLY, UNSEEMLY SEX RING. BUT BILL BARR IS OVER THE TOP OF BUT BILL BARR IS OVER THE TOP OF AND HAS COMMAND AND CONTROL OVER AND HAS COMMAND AND CONTROL OVER THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW
[21:35]THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK, AND THAT INJECTS SO MUCH YORK, AND THAT INJECTS SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY AND SO MUCH