What did the Royal Family know about former Prince Andrew? | Andrew: The Downfall of a Prince

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[0:04]Here is Prince Andrew, 7 months old, as Bonnie a baby as any proud parents could wish. >> There was this element of a fairy tale
[0:12]in 1960, principally because Andrew was the first child born to a reigning monarch in over a hundred years. >> This young man, who is destined to be
[0:22]familiar with the camera all his life, certainly isn't camera shy, but a lovely smile. I think the queen was just
[0:31]entranced by him. He was this beautiful, chubby, laughing baby. And of course, he became incredibly spoiled by everyone in
[0:42]the palace, not just his mother and father. >> Prince Andrew, five last February, probably feels quite senior now that he has a baby brother.
[0:51]>> Nobody ever said no to him. He could do anything he wanted, and he did. No, I won't be a queen.
[1:01]>> As a baby, he wanted attention. As a child, he wanted attention. And as an adult, he wants attention. And he did use his royal status very much to protect himself. >> Poo pooed absolutely. It's not the sort
[1:12]of thing that that one should do. >> Andrew has been an accident waiting to happen for most of his life. >> I'm not even going to answer that question. A few of us coined this name
[1:23]his buffoon highness. >> He's rude. He's arrogant and he's entitled, but we didn't know the depths of his depravity.
[1:34]>> These are the latest pictures of the man formerly known as Prince Andrew. >> He was staying with Jeffrey Epstein, convicted pedophile. We got the picture.
[1:45]It was the first and only proof there was a friendship between Epstein and Prince Andrew. >> Bombshell arrest of the Jeffrey Epstein investigation. >> Ex Prince Andrew has been arrested. No
[1:56]one could possibly have known how the story was going to unwind. That the Bonnie baby being presented to the adoring public in 1960 was to do immense
[2:07]damage to the reputation of Britain and the royals on the world stage. Each family often has a bad apple. This bad
[2:17]apple has been rotten for a long time. Good morning. Well, there has been a
[2:31]very significant development in the investigation into the Epstein files and Andrew Mountbatton Windsor has been
[2:39]arrested this morning on suspicion of misconduct in public life. The files have been devastating for revealing the greed and the sort of
[2:51]entitlement that goes to the very heart of Andrew. Jeffrey Epstein was providing him with a neverending cocktail list it
[3:00]seems of attractive, very presentable uh young women. And on countless occasions he was forwarding confidential British government information to Jeffrey
[3:12]Epstein where Epstein would have been given some kind of financial advantage if he wanted to. He was arrested by Temps Valley police for misconduct in
[3:23]public office. which is extremely rare. I mean, I've prosecuted several times involving police officers, prison officers, that kind of thing. But it's
[3:32]um a very rare charge. I wouldn't want to be Andrew Mamba.
[3:43]The penalty goes up to a maximum of life imprisonment. It is as serious as homicide. And if you
[3:54]are guilty of these offenses, then you should go to prison. >> An arrest of this magnitude involving the sibling of a reigning monarch has no precedent in modern British history.
[4:05]>> Your Majesty, how are you feeling after your brother's arrest? >> The last royal to be arrested was in 1647. That is how significant it is. And it
[4:16]sends out a message that it doesn't matter who you are. It doesn't matter what your status is. you yourself will be held to account. >> I feel that Prince Andrews bought
[4:28]everything that has happened to him upon himself. So I don't feel sorry for him. I feel that
[4:39]he has to pay his penance. The first time I met him was probably in Los Angeles on a royal tour.
[4:50]They'll be in California for 9 days. It's a full and tiring program of events based around a UK Los Angeles arts festival. I wasn't daunted by him. I
[5:01]certainly would be knowing what I know about him now, but I wasn't daunted by him. So, I was quite sort of cheeky then. On subsequent times that I've met
[5:12]him, he's been very dismissive and rude. I have to say if you go back in history I think his fate was probably really set.
[5:22]He was absolutely adored by everyone and of course that paved the way for him getting even more of what he wanted because you know he could just demand it and it happened.
[5:34]>> A scaled down version of the James Bond car for young Prince Andrew. machine guns behind the sidelights to put bullets in the butler and a jolly effective smoke screen should produce
[5:44]some right royal coffin. >> He was the spare son. So he was second to Prince Charles for 20 years. He was like number two.
[5:56]So I think that did have a big effect on him. I encountered Prince Andrew on many
[6:06]occasions during my years as a frontline royal reporter and Andrew represented a sort of a special challenge if you like. Royal
[6:17]correspondents knew that he was an absolute favorite of the late Queen Elizabeth, perhaps her favorite child of all. It gave him a sort of an arrogance in the way that he conducted himself.
[6:29]And certainly his interactions with the public and the media spoke very much of an of an arrogant man who didn't brookke much criticism and didn't have really
[6:39]much time for anyone else's opinion. The upper class or the people who the the the rich people in this country can learn a great deal from the less fortunate people. And I think also that
[6:50]the less fortunate can learn something from from the upper class. He's just very grand with people he considers his inferior. >> We would have liked it, sir, when you
[7:01]agreed to design a set. >> There was a lot of stories about, don't you know who I am? And there was a great deal of talk at Buckingham Palace. What
[7:09]are we going to do with Andrew? >> Andrew joined the Royal Navy at 18. He was the first of the Queen's children to
[7:18]take a proper job, if you like. Prince Andrew's rigging lines become twisted, but keeping his cool, young Andrew sorts out the problem in midair. >> Suddenly, he was going to have to think for himself.
[7:30]>> Could Andrew think for himself >> and land safely? >> What would he think if he had to think for himself? These were all unanswered questions. >> Thank you.
[7:41]>> Off to another one now. >> He was a junior pilot on a length flight. I was a flight commander. And I'm afraid to say he was always the prince and he saw himself as a prince
[7:52]before he was a naval officer. And all the characteristics that you look for in a naval officer uh the dedication, the duty, the commitment were always
[8:00]subordinated to his image of himself as being a prince and what he was entitled to. >> That's my helicopter flying over at the
[8:09]moment. Okay, there's a real story when uh the then Prince Andrew uh met somebody who was going to be his superior, he went over to the guy and said, "Oh, I I hear you're going to be
[8:20]my superior." And the guy said, "Yeah, that's absolutely right." And um Andrew said to him, "Um well, in that case, you can call me H." And the guy said, "But your name's Andrew. Why would I call you
[8:31]H?" He said, "Well, it's short for HR, his royal highness." And the guy said, "That's fine, H. You can call me sir. Prince Andrew was on the same squadron
[8:42]as me. 820 Squadron. Some people have slated him for being arrogant or offish. No, it's all right. He wasn't a prince in the end. He was
[8:53]just a member of the crew. Simple as that. He couldn't operate being a prince, being all princely. He was a pilot first and foremost. And then there
[9:02]was a a sort of pivotal moment when in 1982 Britain found itself at war with Argentina. >> Within the past hour, the Ministry of
[9:14]Defense announced important progress in the battle to recapture the Faullands. >> Right and proper thing for for the prime minister to do is to say, should Prince Andrew go? Um and the answer from from
[9:25]here would have been quite simple. Well, of course he should go. So Andrew found himself sent out on a aircraft carrier. He did have a very dangerous job in
[9:35]those days in order to draw away the very deadly Argentine missiles. They sent up helicopters manned by people like Prince Andrew to act as decoys. We
[9:46]was in a situation there. We knew we were not joking. All day throughout the night, 24 hours a day for months on ends, we were doing that. Carrots definitely held up under
[9:58]fire on more than one occasion. He didn't falter. He was steadfast. He did his job. He didn't go to pieces. The only way I can describe it is that if you perhaps made a rather more risky
[10:09]overtake in a car and you get that sort of hot flush, well, double that add 10 and then do it again. That's how hot and sweaty it became inside my um immersion
[10:20]suit at that particular moment. When Andrew came back from the Forklands War and I remember being there on the
[10:31]key at Portsmouth, his mother was there, his sister was there, and he sort of bounced down the gang plank and he had a rose clamp between his teeth, a red rose. It was a huge huge national
[10:43]celebration of of relief, I think, but also of great pride. A lot of that pride was reserved for for the young Prince Andrew. The war certainly elevated his public
[10:57]image into the stratosphere because here we've got a gorgeousl looking prince. He's a hero because it was the Faulland's war. >> Would you accept an invitation from the prince?
[11:07]>> Poor would I? >> And we all thought this is just magical. very soon he was exploiting that u very
[11:18]good press that he had and soon he had another nickname if you like that the the press gave him >> this nickname you have >> on this name which nickname
[11:29]>> Randy Andy >> why Randy well because Andrew seemed to have a lot of girlfriends >> you know movie stars television
[11:40]presenters Andrew dated them all >> it would appear that this newscast cast or many other newscast would be incomplete without the latest on Britain's Prince Andrew and his current
[11:51]girlfriend, film actress Coup Stark. >> I mean, of course, we had no idea of how round he was at the time. >> No, thank you.
[12:03]>> I always thought that Andrew was just a bottom pincher. very few people did realize that the depths that uh Andrew fell into.
[12:14]>> I think he had every opportunity to make a success of his life but he failed he failed his test and um it has done immense damage um to Britain as a consequence.
[12:25]>> Thanks Andre. Can I ask you if it's time for you to step back from your ambassador role for trade? The organizers of a sports display
[12:42]haven't forgotten the prince's reputation with the girls. Randy Andy has a practiced eye for the ladies and his romantic adventures have been well publicized. Everything changed for Prince Andrew
[12:55]that summer of 1985 when his brother's wife, yes we're talking about Diana here, Princess Diana, decided to embark
[13:04]on a bit of matchmaking. Andrew was at that stage without a girlfriend. >> Sarah Ferguson, age 26, upbringing impeccable, social connections
[13:15]excellent. Diana had this feeling that Sarah, known universally as Fergie, would get on well with Andrew. >> Sorry.
[13:27]>> Yes. >> The public loved the story of Andrew and Fergie. I remember writing, "She's a breath of fresh air blowing through the dusty corridors of Buckingham Palace."
[13:38]Can you imagine writing anything like that? Anyhow, I did. Andrew, I want to look to I want to do I want to be good wife to you. >> There was a wonderful interview with them and I think they were sitting on a
[13:49]wall. >> Just squeeze my fingers. >> Kiss her then. >> Why do you want me to kiss her? >> Go hurry up. >> Why? >> Stop moving quick. Gone. Dare you.
[14:00]>> You're a monster. >> They couldn't keep their hands off each other. This was a couple who you felt wanted to rip each other's clothes off and get into bed as quickly as possible. So there was something very wholesome
[14:12]and warming about the pair um that went down very well with the public. >> And out into the sunshine they stepped to face those crowds for the first time as the Duke and Duchess of York.
[14:23]>> The wedding of Andrew and Fergie was absolutely huge. There was so much excitement
[14:31]and there was so many crowds and people had come from all over the world >> and this was what the crowd was waiting for. >> It was perfect. Absolutely perfect.
[14:50]She then got pregnant very quickly of course had two children within 4 years of marriage. But by then it was quite clear that something was not quite right. They
[15:00]appeared to be in love with each other. Yet very rapidly they began to be be not in love with each other.
[15:10]>> Andrew was away at sea a lot. But I didn't clock that there was anything wrong with the marriage until I started
[15:19]writing my book with Fergie. And she then told me that they'd had so few days together, that she was basically like a widow
[15:29]because she was left to fend for herself and everything was new for her. I mean, Andrew was only on a naval pay and Fergie wasn't earning any money at all.
[15:40]So, the debt started to build up, but they were living like millionaires. And I think that's was the root of the trouble. The Duchess of York, ready for the slopes, emerged from her chalet here
[15:52]at midm morning to talk for the first time about the divorce. How you feeling? >> Very well, thank you. >> So, fast forward to 1996 and um the marriage ends in divorce.
[16:03]>> How do you see your future after the divorce? >> Take every day as it comes. Every day is a new day. >> But they have a very curious kind of divorce. They don't totally separate in
[16:15]the way that most divorced couples do. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go. >> They were the happiest divorced couple in the world. Sarah was living at Royal
[16:26]Lodge because it suited them both. She had her part of the house and he had his part of the house. Then sometime around the late 1990s,
[16:38]Andrew, I guess with his 40th birthday looming, he he he began to change. It's been a wonderful life and I've I've thoroughly enjoyed it, but I've got new
[16:48]things to do and new challenges to face. >> When he reached the rank of commander, that was pretty much as high was going to go. He was not going to make captain.
[16:57]And I think that led to a sort of a big debate around Andrew within the royal family, but also for Andrew himself about what on earth was he going to do
[17:08]next. Prince Andrew will now take up a position promoting British trade around the world. While his new job carries no salary, it's all expenses paid.
[17:20]>> Prince Charles, his older brother, was very much against Prince Andrew securing this plum role as trade envoy in 2001. He thought uh that Andrew would exploit
[17:31]the position uh to pick up girls and play golf. And and you know, he wasn't a million miles wrong. Anybody who spent any time around Andrew would know that
[17:42]he's capable of an extreme lack of diplomacy. And given that that job really consisted of a kind of trade diplomacy, it's still pretty
[17:53]extraordinary that he got it and that people thought that it was a good idea. As far as I am aware, I am the only
[18:02]journalist ever to accompany the then Prince Andrew on one of his missions. And to be inside the bubble, >> it's a no-brainer to come to an event
[18:14]like this. >> He was always a loose cannon. He was always going to say the first thing that came into his head, and the first thing that came into his head was very often
[18:25]going to be ridiculous. We can all squeeze in the lift >> with the police. >> One policeman >> and the sound man. This is going to be fun.
[18:36]>> And yet they sent him bumbling around the world for Britain. >> We keep up a reasonably firm pace because there's so much to do. There are so many opportunities.
[18:48]>> My interactions with Prince Andrew were mainly in Bahrain and I was the deputy ambassador at the British Embassy in Bahrain. Most of us in the foreign
[18:58]office at that stage when he was appointed uh were really pleased that uh he he was in this position that things started to
[19:08]go wrong from the word go. His role was actually quite simple. It's shaking hands, banging the drum and
[19:18]smiling. And yet he seemed to do the opposite most of the time. He would not stay with the ambassador at the residence, which of course is free. He
[19:28]wanted to stay in the best hotel on the island. Plus, he was bringing a much larger entourage than we had anticipated. He was bringing not only a
[19:38]private secretary, but an equary. He was bringing two lady clarks whose sole responsibility was to write thank you letters. And there was this chap called
[19:49]the valet who was carrying a six-foot ironing board. And I'd said to the valet, "Why on earth are you bringing this ironing board? Is this normal?" He said, "Yes, I carry it everywhere cuz
[20:01]I'm the only person that knows how to how to iron his royal highness's trousers." So this sort of arrogance and entitlement was just shocking. And
[20:12]that's why few of us coined this name his buffoon highness to describe his visits. One thing that was noticeable uh which I
[20:23]didn't encounter with any other visit of a royal family was that his staff seemed to be petrified of him.
[20:33]from 1998 to 2004 and my role was armed protection um covering the palace and the royals for 24 hours a day. Protection officers go everywhere with
[20:43]Prince Andrew as they do with most senior roles. It's important that people understand who Prince Andrew is. He's a very unpleasant person. He could fly off the handle at the smallest thing. Um he
[20:53]would be abusive. He would shout. He would swear. His official code was Purple 41, but he did have a nickname. He was called the [ __ ] Um, plain and
[21:04]simple, cuz unfortunately he upset everyone he come across. Uh, he was the most unpopular member of the royal family. >> He had plenty of other names, but I won't repeat them on on on television.
[21:16]>> I've seen him described as a useful idiot. >> Nice to see you. >> I was with him on his first China trip in 2004, and I have to say on that trip,
[21:27]I was already questioning the first part of that phrase. One day he said to me that he wished he could have been a plumber and fixed
[21:38]things. And I remember thinking at the time, ain't that the truth about the royal predicament? He probably would have been a good plumber. You know, instead he's gone and broken all the
[21:48]delicate pipe work there. I actually saw him as a figure of fun for a long period of time without really
[22:00]taking seriously enough what it means to have a figure of fun um living at the heart of an institution that has so much significance
[22:11]and um what that could mean. The problem is there was no real accountability for his behavior
[22:22]and then there were other aspects of his visits which we weren't sure what was going on. >> I've seen relationships he had not only with Jeffrey Epstein but with all sorts
[22:33]of other people who raised extraordinary questions about his judgment. >> Do you regret the whole friendship with Epstein?
[22:43]I'm I now I still not. >> It gives me great pleasure to welcome
[22:53]back His Royal Highness the Duke of York in his capacity as the United Kingdom's special representative for international trade and investment. We knew very little about what Andrew
[23:07]was doing in his role as a UK tread envoy because he went sort of below the parapit. >> Started in Germany last week. I then had to go to Doha to give a speech. I then
[23:19]went to Abu Dhabi before going to Iraq. >> Back in those early 2000s, Andrew relished getting on an airplane and going anywhere. >> I'm following them.
[23:30]>> They know where they're going. There was no salary as the unofficial trade envoy for the UK, but there were expenses and he could load his expenses and he did.
[23:42]>> That's my job. >> Nothing was too grand for our prince Andrew and he ran up huge bills which the taxpayer were having to pay. Uh
[23:51]usually uh it involved a golf course or a yacht or a nice hotel somewhere. He's become known as Air Miles Andy. This
[24:01]private jet is taking the Duke of York to Newcastle. >> Did you have to go by private jet? Yeah, because there was no other way of getting there and back, bearing in mind from what I was doing before and what I
[24:12]was doing afterwards. >> He was always traveling. So, we didn't really see a great deal of him. You know, he he would appear at events with
[24:21]with very exotic looking women. The next thing you know would be a photograph of him covorting on a yacht. You know, then he'd be doing some business deals with
[24:32]the Middle East. Nice to see you. Well, >> the whole thing about royal life is they
[24:40]have this lifestyle that is very circumscribed and where although they look fabulously wealthy and comfortable to by most of
[24:51]our standards, they really don't have a lot of money by what they consider their own standards. So they are constantly
[25:02]looking for ways to increase their own personal wealth and income. There were questions about the sale of
[25:12]that appalling house that he and Sarah Ferguson lived in, Sunning Hill Park. this sprawling mansion that the queen had given him on his marriage to Sarah
[25:23]Ferguson and had been up for sale for a while for 10 or 12 million and uh hadn't moved.
[25:33]>> It ended up being sold way above its market value to the son of the Kazakhstan dictator.
[25:43]The first thing anyone would do if you've got money coming in from Kazakhstan or wherever would be a load of red flags, but these would just seem
[25:52]to be nodded through. The yearning to have a great deal of money. I think that is the problem. Andrew wanted money. Fergie wanted
[26:02]money. And when she got caught by the fake shake, it was just gutwrenchingly embarrassing. The Duchess of York, Sarah
[26:12]Ferguson, has been secretly filmed allegedly plotting to introduce a News of the World reporter posing as businessman to her former husband, Prince Andrew.
[26:22]>> She was offering access to her ex-husband uh for money. >> £500,000
[26:31]when you can to me open doors. >> New 100. >> Yeah, >> it's ideal. >> Yeah. She said in the interview, "We can
[26:42]open any door you need." You have to query now what we know about all the financial shenanigans within Andrew's orbit. You have to consider whether
[26:54]there may have been some truth in payment for access. And then he did have a female business advisor who came to all the meetings but never said a thing.
[27:06]And we didn't know what her role was, what she was supposed to do, but she attended all the royal events. Maybe she was advising him on on business opportunities. I don't know. We never
[27:17]found out. >> People did know that he was out of control. >> But he wasn't reigned in. This was the problem. I described him once as as a hot air
[27:28]balloon was because he he he had this appearance of sort of drifting around with no visible means of support. And by visible means of support, where was all
[27:39]the money coming from? Because he lived a fairly lavish lifestyle. He was spending a lot of time with very rich people. I remember going out to New York in 1999
[27:55]because reports were coming out of the United States that Andrew had formed an attachment with Gileain Maxwell. She was the daughter of the disgraced former
[28:06]press tycoon Robert Maxwell. Well, I think probably what attracted him to Gileain is she was someone that
[28:16]could take him with her into the high life and he didn't have to organize anything. See, I think Andrew is also very lazy and he's always had everything done for him. So, suddenly here's
[28:27]another person that's going to do everything for him. She's going to organize for him to have fun and meet lots of rich, influential people. I don't think she was actually dating
[28:38]him as uh as the reports had it at the time, but nevertheless, she was the person who was to usher in a new set of friends, a new set of acquaintances, and
[28:49]some of them were going to turn out to be very dangerous ones for Prince Andrew. Around the turn of the century, we know that he has made friends with this man
[29:00]called Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein is an anonymous figure in New York. I mean, in fact, it was many, many years before anyone really knew much
[29:10]about the sort of zeligike creature that he was. >> I think Andrew would have been an easy
[29:19]mark for anybody who was able to whine and dine and treat him to the things that he enjoyed. the company of
[29:30]young women and the use of posh houses, posh cars, private planes. He was completely taken in by Epstein
[29:40]because there was the money, the yachts, the parties, the business deals all given to him on a plate. I think
[29:49]that Epstein groomed him. Access was what Epstein wanted because members of the royal family can open all sorts of
[29:59]doors just by the fact that they are members of the royal family. Jeffrey Epstein had his eye on the main chance. I think he was looking for Andrew to
[30:10]open up all sorts of riches for him. Andrew Mountbatton Windsor appears to have knowingly shared confidential information with Jeffrey Epstein when as
[30:19]Prince Andrew he was a UK trade envoy. I was like everybody absolutely shocked to see in the Epstein files that Prince Andrew had been forwarding government
[30:31]documents to Epstein. >> Emails show Mr. Mountbatton Windsor apparently passing on details of investment opportunities. He forwarded details about his trade visits to
[30:42]Southeast Asia, Vietnam and China. He forwarded details about the British government response to the global financial crisis in 20089. And the the
[30:53]these are highly questionable activities. The allegation here is that Andrew asked for a certain document, he gets that document and within seconds he's
[31:02]forwarding it on tostein. Um, it I mean it beggars belief. >> Among the people that Andrew was asked to help Jeffrey Epstein get close to was
[31:13]the Libyan dictator, Colonel Gaddafi. Back in the early 2000s, uh, Epstein saw Andrew as a very useful way of getting
[31:23]to Gaddafi, who was thought to have many billions of illgotten gains in offshore bank accounts. And um there's this
[31:32]extraordinary exchange which shows how Epstein asked him for his help. >> People have asked me if I want to meet him as he does not know where to put his money. I wondered if Prince Andrew
[31:44]should make the intro. >> And Andrew said he would see his Libyan man and he duly responds only hours
[31:53]later Libya fixed. There is no doubt in my mind that there can only be one explanation for that which is what which is to give financial
[32:02]benefit to Epstein or anybody around Epstein at that time. There was an enormous amount of money flowing in and out of Libya. Um it suggests somebody
[32:12]that's um allegedly systemically breaching uh the responsibilities placed upon him. What the prosecutors and police will have to prove is that he was doing more than just being a ceremonial
[32:23]trade envoy. that he was actually uh making decisions that he was um acting in such a way that uh that would make him a public officer.
[32:35]But people shouldn't be just fixated on the misconduct. There are other potential crimes here. Breaking news out of Washington. The
[32:48]Justice Department just dropped a trove of new documents. The latest release of files is shocking in its size and its content. >> These are the latest pictures of the man
[32:58]formerly known as Prince Andrew. >> The Epstein files have been devastating for revealing seed billionaires entitlement and greed and rather unscrupulous goings on.
[33:10]>> Documents in the Epstein files appear to show that Andrew was using the disgraced financia as a gobetween to fix highlevel meetings. the suggestion. They both wanted to cash in.
[33:21]>> Andrew was very easily hooked by Epstein. He was completely taken in. And the only person that really noticed
[33:32]was Prince Phillip. Wise Prince Phillip. He said to his son, "Beware of Sidi billionaires
[33:42]because all they want is to be linked to a prince and they're going to use you." And Andrew wasn't intelligent enough to
[33:53]realize, you know, how evil it all was. I don't think he actually thought about it. He said, "Oh, this is jolly good fun." And didn't think about it.
[34:04]He actually didn't take on board that this was a man who who'd been jailed for defiling young girls. I was in New York when Jeffrey Epstein
[34:22]was first arrested for many, many charges of child prostitution. I'm a freelance journalist and I was
[34:32]like criy that is Gain Maxwell's boyfriend. So obviously I then looked into that and covered that and it was like this is astonishing.
[34:42]Ultimately he just did a sweetheart deal with the Florida prosecutors and served just 13 months in prison and he was allowed out in the daytime. So very much
[34:53]at that point, Jeffrey Epstein was on my radar. In December 2010, I got a phone call from the News of the World saying, "Panic. We uh we know Prince Andrews in
[35:05]town. He's not working. We don't know what he's doing, and we don't know where he is. Can you try and find him?" I thought that he might be staying was Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein owns the
[35:16]biggest private residence. I think it's 52 rooms in Manhattan. It's massive. But I also thought he wouldn't be stupid enough to actually go and stay with Jeffrey Epstein considering he's just
[35:28]come out of prison, you know, for basically paid affiliate. As I approached Epstein's place, yes, there was the diplomatic protection
[35:39]squad. I always call them men talking into their cufflings. All I knew was that somebody rather important was inside Jeffrey Epstein's mansion. So I called up the photographer Jay Donnelly.
[35:50]We sat outside in the freezing cold in the car on day one. We didn't see any signs of Andrew, but there was an awful lot of
[36:02]girls going in and out. And these girls were very, very young. One girl had flown in on literally from
[36:11]the airport from Russia. Um you could see even like the Aeraflot um plane ticket on her luggage and it's like what is going on? Next day Jay and I are back
[36:22]again. Suddenly the front door opened and out came Andrew with Jeffrey Epstein. It was like woof and it was it was so quick.
[36:34]Sort of took off in the car. Within seconds we hit Central Park and they turned right which was against the traffic. So Jay the photographer just
[36:44]ran out with his camera equipment, ran into the park, being a brilliant photographer, had managed to get ahead of them, clamber up a rock and take the most amazing set of photographs.
[36:56]It was incredible. I mean, at the time it was like, "We've got the picture. It's fantastic." I remember him showing me the pictures and I didn't want to have my fingers anywhere near them for fear of deleting
[37:07]on the camera. I could have written the headline there, you know, the prince and the pervert. And it was like, God, how could Andrew be so stupid? It was the first and only
[37:18]proof at that point we had that there was a friendship between Jeffrey Epstein, you know, a convicted pedophile and Prince Andrew. Now, if not for that picture, he would have carried on
[37:29]denying, denying, denying any sort of friendship. It's an incredibly important picture, and it was like the house of cards falling down.
[37:39]That is the moment I think that December day in 2010, you can kind of plot his downfall and what has subsequently happened to him over the next 16 years
[37:50]springs from that paparazzo photograph. What do you think when you see that photo? I think it's two maniacal
[38:02]individuals who help each other get what they want. They both think that they can get away with everything. Um, that they're above society.
[38:13]>> With that picture, Virginia Roberts Jeffrey said, "Right, that's it. I'm talking." I always said I would never talk. I cannot stand the idea that Jeffrey Epstein is trying to
[38:23]rehabilitate himself by being seen with British royalty. So, she told her story. >> I was trafficked to Prince Andrew. How many times were you trafficked to him?
[38:34]Three times. This is a real photo. >> And that was the first time you met him. >> And that's the very first time I met him. >> Virginia said, you know, I was forced to sleep with Andrew in London, in New
[38:46]York, and obviously in the Caribbean, where Jeffrey Epstein owns an island. >> The Duke of York has been named in court papers filed in the United States by
[38:56]Virginia Roberts. >> He knows what he's done and he can attest to that. >> Are you resigning? >> Do you remember her? No, I I I have no
[39:07]recollection of ever meeting her. >> And then of course, you know, 2019, I'm back in London and Andrew gives the car crash interview to Emily Mateless, which
[39:17]I sat and watched and it was like I had my fist in my mouth. I was like, what is he saying? >> She described dancing with you. >> No,
[39:26]>> and you profusely sweating and that she went on to have bath possibly. There's a slight problem with with with with with
[39:34]the sweating um because uh I I I have a peculiar medical condition which is that I don't sweat. >> My whole position had been I'm just
[39:45]asking the questions. My job is to ask the questions on behalf of the women who desperately need answers. >> I was on terminal leave at the time um
[39:56]from the Royal Navy. So therefore I was at home. >> Why would you remember that so specifically? Why would you remember a a Pizza Express birthday and being at home? >> Because going to Pizza Express in Woking
[40:07]is an unusual thing for me to do. >> I guess I just saw the holes, you know, the fabric was just kind of coming apart. Do you regret that trip? >> Yes.
[40:17]>> Do you regret the whole friendship with Epstein? I'm now still not that >> his most extraordinary answer in that
[40:27]interview was Emily asked him did he regret his association with Epstein and he said still not uh was the first two
[40:37]words still not because of the wonderfully useful links that Epstein brought him. the people that I met um and the opportunities that I was given
[40:47]to learn um either by him or because of him were actually very useful. >> It was disastrous. We know it was
[40:58]completely disastrous. We just said this man is a complete idiot. Well, just days after giving what has been described as a car crash interview, the prince said
[41:10]that he would be stepping down from royal duties for the foreseeable future. >> It meant that Prince Andrew's actions had started to damage the monarchy.
[41:20]>> The News Night disaster, more than anything else he has ever done, showed you who Andrew was.
[41:28]It happened because he is so arrogant that he thought he could sit there and say these things and not be challenged on them and not have it
[41:40]unravel later. >> His majesty the king has today initiated a formal process to remove the style, titles and honors.
[41:50]>> He will no longer be known as Prince Andrew. Instead, he will only be known as Andrew Mambbatton Windsor. This is full disgrace and pretty much
[42:02]unprecedented. >> No one could possibly have known how the story was going to unwind. Not for him, not for the House of Windsor and not indeed for the world at large.
[42:13]>> The damage has been done. There are countries around the world, I imagine even Australia, uh, who, you know, think, you know, is the royal family fit for purpose? Andrew is most certainly a symbol in
[42:29]this whole saga that no one, including the brother of a king, is above the law. >> When the reputational and now potentially criminal blast radius of the
[42:41]Epstein investigation reaches the monarchy, it is a global news event. >> The biggest crisis for the royal family since the death of Diana. >> Good afternoon, Your Majesty. >> Do you have any reaction to the arrest
[42:52]of your brother, sir? Your majesty, how are you feeling? >> Everywhere King Charles goes, people shout out questions about how much did you know and when did you know it? >> How long have you known about Andrew and state?
[43:03]>> Hennis, can I ask you in your Can I brother's position? Prince Andrew. >> How do you think the king has handled the Andrew Mountb situation? >> I think he's handled it fairly fairly.
[43:14]>> No, I don't think he's handling it very well. Most of us have a black sheep of the family in in every family and that's all Andrew is a black sheep, isn't he? >> I feel that we still don't know the
[43:25]significance of Andrew's arrest. >> Honestly, really pleased. I think it's about time. An important signal that it's uh taken very seriously. >> The royal family are obviously very
[43:36]distressed by it because he lied to them. They believed him. So, they must feel foolish as well. Sir, to what extent do you think the royal family has done enough around the Andrew and
[43:47]Epstein issue? >> When the Virginia Grey photograph emerged in 2011, I think within the royal family, there was a feeling we got to protect Andrew. He's told us it's
[43:59]entirely innocent. >> Jafrey has long said she wanted her day in court to face the man she claimed sexually abused her more than two decades ago when she was 17. From the moment that picture appeared, it has
[44:11]haunted the House of Windsor and it it has haunted Prince Andrew. >> Prince Andrew and Virginia Juprey, the woman who'd accused him of sexual assault, have reached an outofc court settlement.
[44:22]>> Andrew denied this for years, but reached a settlement in 2022 with Jupy in New York. >> Paying somebody off, in this case, £12
[44:31]million might sound like compensation, but it wasn't compensation. It was done with a disclosure, a non-disclosure agreement. It was done to buy her
[44:42]silence. >> That has caused people to look at the monarchy in a very different way. And I
[44:50]genuinely think that it could now come to an end in my lifetime. But even if it doesn't, it will never have that
[45:00]automatic expectation of respect and property that it has enjoyed uh for much of the time that I've reported on it. When the queen was alive, I never would
[45:14]have said the monarchy was vulnerable. >> More and more people want to get rid of the monarchies. Their days are numbered. I think that King Charles has done a magnificent job, but I think he's had an
[45:25]incredibly hard time. >> The king realized that this was existential for the royal family. That people were openly questioning the
[45:36]existence of a royal family. So, the king needed, as he has done, to show how seriously he was taking this. >> Breaking news. His majesty the king has released a statement saying the
[45:47]following. Let me state clearly the law must take its course. >> As part of the investigation, um the police will have to talk to witnesses including the close protection officers,
[45:57]uh people who are involved in security, people involved in looking after diary, people who um were involved in receiving phone calls, everybody will have to be
[46:07]spoken to. Uh and the historically the palace ecosystem has been extremely secret secretive. um you know what the public don't know they don't need to
[46:17]know you know uh but actually now they're going to have to open up. >> This is Andrew Mountbatton Windsor in the present day stripped of his titles and roles after revelations of his past
[46:28]dealings with Jeffrey Epstein. >> Andrew Mountbatton Windsor is understood to have moved from his Windsor mansion to the Sandringham estate.
[46:38]There are times when I feel sorry for Andrew and I know that Princess Anne and Prince Edward certainly are concerned for his mental health. Um the police
[46:47]actually went to um um his new digs and actually removed some firearms. So somebody there is concerned about
[46:56]him. But then I have to remind myself, what about the girls? Virginia Jeffrey died. she couldn't take anymore. That
[47:07]woman was so brave and if only she could sort of look back and see this. So yes, I have to remind myself, no, there are a lot of victims of sexual abuse here. And
[47:17]you know, Prince Andrew caused all of that misery. >> I've been calling for an investigation in relation to Andrew and Epstein and the sexual misconduct allegations for
[47:28]about 10 years now. And the initial view of the Metropolitan Police, which is the police for London, was that there was insufficient evidence for them to to
[47:38]even investigate. Now, however, suddenly he's in the public eye. And when people are now looking at all other areas of humanity, they're looking at this. I've said it
[47:49]publicly, when the government is an alleged victim, the state moves at pace. When a woman is alleged victim, state's extremely slow. My sense is that um we're we're at the beginning of
[48:00]something, not not near the end. Here was a man who was going to have some kind of dramatic reckoning.
[48:12]He was going to unravel with dizzying speed. And that's where I think our anger should be directed. Our anger should be directed at Andrew. What he was doing was something that was
[48:23]morally reprehensible. And he's done irreparable damage to his country, to his own family, and to the institution
[48:32]of monarchy that he pledged to serve.