Sky News Breakfast: Ghislaine Maxwell guilty of helping Geoffrey Epstein abuse teenage girls

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[0:00]it's 7 o'clock this is sky news breakfast and here are our top stories this morning facing the rest of her life behind bars british socialite galen maxwell is found guilty of helping
[0:10]jeffrey epstein sexually abuse teenage girls others must be held accountable virginia dufrese one of maxwell's accusers says she now has faith others connected to
[0:22]the crimes will face justice following the verdict meanwhile gulen maxwell's families say they are very disappointed with the verdict and have already started the
[0:31]appeals process against the decision and i'm in new york where lawyers for guillerme maxwell's victims say some justice has been served but more now
[0:41]needs to be done told others responsible for their role in jeffrey epstein's criminal enterprise setting up for a surge new nightingale hubs are rolled out at eight locations
[0:52]across england as the nhs prepares for a wave of omicron hospital admissions testing times a shortage of coveted test kits across the country but the uk
[1:03]health security agency promises eight million more will be available before the new year the u.s calls on china to immediately release employees of the pro-democracy
[1:14]media outlet strand news after they were arrested by hong kong authorities baby benefits sky news speaks to the companies helping staff start a family
[1:24]through ivf and the weather mild but windy with rain in the south and showers in the far north for a time and that of course too we'll look at the
[1:34]smallest papers with the journalists alpha adam and thomas copeland [Music] hello there very good morning thanks for
[1:48]joining us the 60 year old british socialite delane maxwell is facing the rest of her life behind bars after being found guilty of recruiting underage girls to be sexually abused by geoffrey
[1:59]epstein maxwell who was described as dangerous and epstein's partner in crime by the prosecution during her three-week trial was convicted on five of the six
[2:08]counts she was charged with her accusers including virginia dufrese say others connected to the crimes must now be held accountable following the verdict meanwhile maxwell's families say they've
[2:20]already started the appeal process against the decision well a warning this report from our u.s correspondent martha kellner does contain some flash photography
[2:30]guillen maxwell was the socialite whose manners and magnetism attracted princes and presidents but it was those same qualities she used to ensnare girls from
[2:41]troubled backgrounds teenagers whom she served up for abuse by jeffrey epstein her siblings were in court as the verdict was read out they know she'll
[2:51]almost certainly spend the rest of her life in prison so too do her lawyers laura i wonder if you can reflect on why you think that this jury believed the
[3:02]prosecution's case that glenn maxwell was a sexual predator it was the verdict her accusers say is long overdue among them sarah ransom who was in court
[3:13]for some of the trial what was it that gillane did to manipulate girls in order to serve them up to jeffrey epstein what was her role
[3:24]in the crime so guillen was the main enforcer she was you know even before i met elaine jeffrey said you answer to guillen you know
[3:35]she is the lady of the house she is um you just don't cross her she forced me into jeffrey's room to be raped
[3:45]and then when i walked out well walked limped i mean whatever you do when you've just been been brutally raped i looked at her
[3:56]and that's why it was really important for me to be there and look at her because when i looked at her after she forced me into that room to be raped
[4:07]she smiled and that's why i had to be there because you know what i smiled right back right back at her when i saw her
[4:19]four survivors took the stand in this case they were girls when they were abused they're now grown women who stepped out of the shadows and into this
[4:28]court to tell their story and ultimately it was that testimony which brought down gulen maxwell but after the verdict her family and friends remained defiant
[4:39]we firmly believe in glenn's innocence obviously we are very disappointed with the verdict we have already started working on the appeal and we are
[4:49]confident that she will be vindicated your excellencies presidents laws ladies and gentlemen maxwell once used her platform to address the un she traveled the world in a way only the super
[5:01]wealthy ever will but her privilege in the end was no protection for the crimes she committed martha kellner sky news new york
[5:11]and martha has the latest from new york there was a huge amount of tension in the court i think mainly because this verdict had taken much longer than many
[5:21]expected to be returned judge allison nathan got out her yellow note and said we have a verdict at that point there was an
[5:31]audible intake of breath from everyone in that courtroom and in the overflow courtrooms to to watch this hearing this deliberation period take place
[5:42]guillen maxwell sat relatively motionless rather devoid of emotion as the charges against her and the verdicts were read out she was found guilty of
[5:52]five of the six charges against her as that final charge was read out count six the most serious count on the charge sheet she was found guilty of sex
[6:03]trafficking which carries a maximum 40-year sentence in prison she simply looked down at the table in front of her the defense table in front of her she
[6:13]took a sip of water from her paper cup she then stood up there was a very brief pat on the back from one of her defense lawyers jeffrey
[6:22]palayuka there was then the briefest of glances behind her to her family who was sat on the front row of that courtroom her sister's isabella isabel apologies and
[6:34]christine and her brother kevin she gave them a brief glance before u.s marshals led her out of that courtroom
[6:44]afterwards her lawyer bobby sternheim as you saw there in my report and spoke out and said her family will appeal they are very much um defiant in disbelief at
[6:56]this verdict martha kellner there in new york for us now the nhs is setting up new nightingale surge hubs across england to deal with a potential wave of omicron
[7:07]hospital admissions work on eight sites each with a capacity of around 100 patients is set to begin as early as this week as the nhs prepares to go on a
[7:17]war footing against the virus sky sergey chowdhury reports last year's new year's resolution to help the national vaccine
[7:28]programme so that is you i've done it thank you let's do it nearly a thousand hours later and nobody in the east of england has volunteered more hours than alex
[7:40]pence it's all about them getting to do things when they're freed up from this so we had a lady the other day where she said i'd literally saved her wedding because she needed a vaccination within the next
[7:50]two days or she wasn't going to be able to get to barbados for the wedding it's not just wedding days being saved volunteer contribution is also helping
[7:59]keep pressure off and nhs under strain despite record-breaking vaccination figures this past fortnight omicron
[8:09]remains on the rise and the nhs is taking no chances this is a new temporary nightingale hub being built
[8:19]one of an initial eight sites across england in london the hub will be here at st george's hospital nhs trusts have been asked to help identify more sites like
[8:30]gyms and education centers that can be converted to help create up to 4 000 so-called super surge beds the expansion comes as the number of people in
[8:40]hospitals with kovid rose above 10 000 for the first time since march what we're doing here is we're preparing for the worst whilst hoping for the best
[8:51]it's it's a no regrets approach what you don't want to do is hit a point where you need to treat very large numbers of patients but you simply don't have the facilities and capacity to do it questions remain over who will staff the
[9:03]new hubs the royal college of nursing has sounded the alarm over worker shortages and low morale a survey of more than 9 000 uk nursing
[9:13]staff has found that 57 said they're considering or planning on leaving their job around three quarters said that in the last year they'd worked when feeling unwell
[9:24]and 18 said they weren't able to take annual leave we've got a nursing profession that's under intolerable pressures
[9:34]it's a workforce and crisis and if we don't address the crisis in the nursing profession then we won't have a health and care service that's fit to deliver for those that are in desperate need of
[9:44]it and deserve actually the care and that the health service should be able to deliver the nightingale surge hubs become the latest response to the rapid spread of omicron and the prospect of
[9:56]another major wave of people relying on the nhs for treatment sadia chowdhury sky news we're staying with kovid 19 and an extra
[10:07]8 million home testing kits are to be made available before the new year after shortages caused by exceptionally high demand the uk health security agency has warned that increased demand could
[10:18]continue to lead to a shortage in lateral flow and pcr tests both of which were unavailable for home delivery across the uk via the government website on wednesday professor alex richter a
[10:30]clinical immunologist at the university of birmingham says difficulty accessing pcr tests is forcing her family into isolation after her daughter returned to positive lateral flow results
[10:41]i look after individuals with vulnerable immune systems and so at high risk so i wouldn't be able to go back to work without a pcr test i probably wouldn't
[10:51]go back and see patients face to face anyway because of how vulnerable my patient cohort is but it doesn't allow any of us to
[11:02]release and we would have to remain in an isolated manner for the next 10 days let's bring in our political correspondent joe pike who's at westminster forest morning joe so why
[11:13]are we experiencing this lack of tests simply it's because we have seen a huge uptick in the number of cases that of course is going to lead to people
[11:24]wanting to test to see whether they have a cover 19 or not but also partly because the self-isolation rules have changed last week the uk government reduced the amount of time you need to
[11:34]self-isolate if you test positive from 10 days to 7 as long as you have a lateral flow test and test negative on day six and seven that is likely to
[11:44]increase demand as is the guidance from the government that if you've come into close contact with someone who's positive you don't need to self-isolate but ideally you take lateral flow tests
[11:56]every day for a week and the shortage of tests is certainly continuing this morning on the uk government's website there are no home tests for the general public or for essential workers in the
[12:06]nhs and care staff and in terms of the walk in and drive through a testing centers those are not available in scotland northern ireland and eight out
[12:16]of nine english regions this challenge is continuing the government are saying they're expanding capacity and the people should check their website every few hours what we are though perhaps
[12:26]seeing jonathan is a change in the way people are behaving acting more responsibly in testing regularly that is becoming part of everyday life but it is only possible for us to do that if we
[12:38]can get the test from government and uh for now it's quite difficult all right joe thank you well we can get some more now on those pressures being felt by nurses and the
[12:49]warning from the royal college of nursing that there's a growing sense of disillusionment amongst staff joining me now is the royal college of nursing's general secretary pat cullen you saw her
[12:59]in that report a little bit earlier very good morning to you thanks for being with us we'll talk about all the pressures that nursing staff are under in a moment but first of all just give me your reaction to these uh covered
[13:10]hubs that are being set up a sensible idea or not so easy to do well i don't know about uh how easy they are to do because you can set up all the
[13:22]hubs and that you wish to set up but if you don't have the nursing staff to actually care for the patients that are going to be placed in those hubs that places more
[13:33]challenges on the nursing workforce the nursing workforce already are struggling and massively to care for the patients that are already in hospital and we set
[13:44]up hubs and put on and put up additional beds that's going to even place more pressure on those nurses so at this point in time we have no idea how we're
[13:53]going to be um staffing those additional hubs as they're set up it appears that these hubs are going to be largely for patients who are getting
[14:04]better and are close to being discharged from hospital um could you argue that actually this will make life easier for those nursing staff inside the main
[14:14]building who are trying to look after the critically ill well where you see a bed in a hospital you inevitably see nurses so those beds
[14:24]will still have to be staffed by nurses the patients in those beds will still require nursing care and so the nurses that are already providing the critical care and
[14:35]hospitals will even be spread thinner across those areas unless there's another plan to staff those beds and care for those patients in another way
[14:45]but at this point in time that information isn't available so we are working on the premise that if there's a bed put up in a hospital or in a
[14:54]makeshift hospital inevitably that bed requires a nurse to be present provide the care for patients uh we're heading into uh another year
[15:04]it'll be our third year with uh kovid hanging over us uh what does that mean for those in your profession well we can see in this report today the
[15:14]stark statistics in the report that has been um issued today but it's not just the statistics behind each and every one of the statistics in
[15:24]that report and there's a story to be told and we can see those stories in the report and that's been published today and personally and professionally each
[15:34]and every nurse has paid a massive price um over the last number of years they headed into this pandemic with 50 000 nursing vacancies in the nhs
[15:45]in england and then on top of that we now have a situation where thousands of nurses are off isolating so you can imagine what it's like for those nurses
[15:54]that are still um getting up as we speak this morning to start a 13 14 hour shift and care for patients with a depleted workforce and knowing that there's no
[16:05]way into it that it's just relentless and the words that they just they they say to me on a daily basis is that it has become intolerable and you know throughout my 37 year
[16:16]nursing career i never thought that i would see a report issue today that shows 57 of our workforce wishing to leave the profession that certainly was never
[16:27]something that i thought i would see in my time and of course you know we're all hugely grateful to the work that nurses do but we are in unprecedented times aren't we kovit
[16:38]has taken its toll on so many people in so many different uh walks of life um is it fair to completely blame the government for the situation that
[16:47]nursing staff find themselves in well the nursing workforce has been subject to cost cutting exercises year on year
[16:57]by success of governments and there has been an absolute total absence and lack of workforce planning and cuts made to nursing permanent posts filled with temporary vacancies in order to get
[17:09]money out of the service those are not issues that have been created by the nursing workforce indeed the nursing workforce has stepped up and stepped out for the public and patients time and
[17:19]time again so someone has to take responsibility but what we're seeing is moving forward there needs to be accountability and responsibility for long-term workforce planning there needs
[17:30]to be investment in the service and we need a workforce that is fit for purpose that can deliver for the public and take the pressure off the front line those nurses that are trying every day to do
[17:40]their very best for patients so that they can go home after their shift and know that there's not care left undone that they don't feel that their patients are being subjected to unsafe care when
[17:51]we have got a workforce that is absolutely highly valued by the public that are skilled and expert in providing that care and it's it's down to the government unfortunately i do have to
[18:02]say that it is down to the government to make sure that the patients and the public have got the workforce to provide that care for them okay uh we must leave it there pat cullen general secretary of the royal
[18:14]college of nursing thank you thank you okay let's take a look at some of the other stories making news this morning the u.s has called on china to immediately release employees of the
[18:24]pro-democracy media outlet stand news after they were arrested by hong kong authorities the uk government also joined the u.s in condemning the actions calling the arrests a curtailing of
[18:36]media freedoms but hong kong leader carrie lam claimed the arrests were a law enforcement action and were not aimed at the media industry the foreign secretary liz truss has
[18:46]pledged up to 105 million pounds of uk emergency aid to help vulnerable countries tackle the omicron covet 19 variant the foreign office says the aid will help countries most in need fight
[18:57]kovit 19 with a particular focus on africa it's hoped the funding will help millions of people by supporting measures to reduce transmission scale up testing and boost oxygen supplies
[19:09]well that announcement comes exactly one year after the uk became the first country to approve the oxford astrazeneca vaccine two and a half billion doses of that job have since been administered around the world
[19:20]including 50 million here in the uk health secretary sajid javid says the oxford astrazeneca vaccine has been absolutely pivotal in saving millions of lives globally
[19:32]now a maintenance worker has suffered serious injuries after being attacked by a tiger when he entered an unauthorized area of a florida zoo authorities at the naples zoo shot and killed the tiger to
[19:43]free the man from its jaws almost 100 convicted terrorists are being assessed for release from prison by the parole board with several cases
[19:54]being decided in the next few months skies emma virtually is in the newsroom for us now morning emma so give us some more detail well we're actually talking
[20:04]about 92 convicted terrorists it would have been in the past that they would have been automatically released at the halfway point in their sentence but emergency laws were brought in in
[20:15]february of 2020 following two terror attacks committed by recently released terrorist prisoners attacks at fishmongers hall and
[20:26]streatham two within three months both in london and so now these convicted terrorists have to serve at least two-thirds of their sentence and then they have to appear before a parole
[20:38]panel who have to decide if they're safe before their release so the kind of people we're talking about are jawad akbar for example he plotted to bomb the blue water shopping center in kent in
[20:49]the ministry of sound nightclub in london back in 2004. jack coulson a teenager who made a pipe bomb in his bedroom which is was covered with nazi
[20:59]flags so you can see why people would be concerned about the prospect of these kind of people re-entering society now the parole board say that public safety
[21:09]is the top priority and that actually these parole board panels that make these decisions are really being beefed up with more specialists the kind of people judges senior police officers
[21:21]prisoner prison governors psychologists psychiatrists so they are the people who are making these decisions the problem according to nick aldworth who is a
[21:30]former national counter-terrorism coordinator is that these people are clever and they can cheat the system the trouble with ideologically based um
[21:42]offending is it is quite easy to conceal your your deep views but of course those are also views that come and go and you know there will be a case coming
[21:53]up um this year where an individual had not been on the police radar for several years and then committed an appalling act these are not easy decisions to make
[22:04]about the future of these convicted terrorists so to give you an example since the new legislation came in 22 months ago 117 cases have been referred to the
[22:15]parole board of those only 11 people have been released and 14 have been refused release welcome back you're watching sky news breakfast now the 60 year old british
[22:26]socialite giles maxwell is facing the rest of her life behind bars after being found guilty of recruiting underage girls to be sexually abused by geoffrey epstein maxwell who is described as
[22:36]epstein's partner in crime by the prosecution during her three-week trial was convicted on five of the six counts that she was charged with our u.s correspondent greg milan takes a look at
[22:47]the background of the case and verdict during elaine maxwell's trial a teenage accuser was asked why she didn't speak out or fight back
[22:57]because she said she knew she was isolated here in a mansion owned by jeffrey epstein on an 8 000 acre ranch in the middle of the desert isolated she said
[23:08]with just those two people the photos of that palatial home in new mexico now come marked with evidence labels the property revealed in the trial as being central to the sex
[23:18]trafficking operation of epstein and maxwell's role laid bare by those brought here their experience of what went on beyond the gate of zorro ranch
[23:29]and this is just one property in a global portfolio in which jeffrey epstein and elaine maxwell could operate exclusive homes in new york and florida and the virgin islands where as you can
[23:41]see they could stay well away from the public gaze and as the trial heard the means to travel between them that also kept them in their own private world because behind the gates and the
[23:53]security cameras zorro ranch has its own airstrip freedom of movement for epstein and maxwell and their guests here the flight logs of epstein's private jets
[24:03]revealed in the trial the world of the rich famous and powerful in which they moved with maxwell at its heart a who's who of politicians power brokers and performers
[24:14]none of those named in court were accused of any wrongdoing but they demonstrated a couple with unrivaled connections the lawyer for some of epstein's accusers ones whose allegations weren't
[24:26]heard during the trial say it was maxwell's presence that won the trust of those who became victims mr epstein would have never been able to
[24:35]abuse the number of women that he did had it not been for the part that galen maxwell played in that sexual pyramid the wealth
[24:47]and influence that jeffrey epstein and glenn maxwell had throughout the world allowed them to continue on this path for as long as they did
[24:57]the problems associated with their wealth and and influence is that they were always given the benefit of the doubt in situations where questions should have clearly been
[25:08]raised all the many hundreds of people who have sent messages of support those who know galen
[25:19]maxwell point to her past and the death of her father the disgraced tycoon robert maxwell on his yacht 30 years ago she was very upset she was crying about her daddy she was
[25:34]obviously you know a daddy's girl the youngest ken lennox identified robert maxwell's body after his death the death of
[25:43]epstein he believes drove prosecutors to go after gelane maxwell they lost jeffrey and she was the next there's no one else visible
[25:54]to punish for what happened to these girls i think she was under the influence of a man who in many ways resembled her father towards the end of gelaine maxwell's
[26:06]trial the jury was shown this video from inside the home in palm beach in florida where prosecutors say she and jeffrey epstein committed horrifying crimes
[26:16]their exclusive world is now no more that house has been demolished for many the memories can never be erased greg milam sky news well back here the british dental
[26:31]association says the government's decision to impose new activity targets is the wrong choice at the wrong time from the 1st of january nhs dentists in england will have to meet 85 of their
[26:42]pre-covered levels or face financial penalties joining me now is the chair of the british dental association eddie crouch very good morning to you thanks sir for joining us here on sky news
[26:52]breakfast that meeting 85 of your pre-covered uh appointments doesn't sound uh too tough why is it a problem well it's a massive problem at the
[27:02]moment we've had yesterday 185 000 people testing positive many of the teams the dental teams are struggling working flat out
[27:13]and two-thirds of those teams have not managed to achieve that target previously and we're going into deeper numbers within the pandemic we're having
[27:25]problems with staffing many of our staff are off with with symptoms or having to self-isolate many of our patients are uh the contract itself is not very um
[27:36]uh satisfactory and setting a target like this is setting dentists up to fail so what exactly how have the government said that 85 percent of pre-covered
[27:47]levels what else have you got to achieve well that in itself is is is a real shock to the profession um because as i say only two-thirds well sorry only a
[27:58]third of practices previously were hitting that target sorry why is that uh well we've been working to incredible uh
[28:08]cross infection control procedures since the pandemic started we've had the situation where we've had to have uh downtime after each particular patient
[28:20]trying to see 85 percent of the numbers of patients that we saw uh pre-pandemic is just not possible is there not an argument though that uh some of those measures can be relaxed
[28:31]now we already know that dental practices are some of the cleanest places that you can go to you've been wearing ppe uh well before we even knew
[28:41]what ppe stood for social distancing for example i know some dentists say that you have to have social distancing in in the waiting rooms well no one else is doing social distancing why do you need
[28:52]to because we're seeing patients that are potentially vulnerable within our surgeries and no other area of the health service is actually being put under this pressure
[29:03]my colleagues feel they're not being supported properly like other areas of the health service we understand there is a massive backlog 35 million appointments have been lost um we've got
[29:15]the situation where um many patients healthwatch for example are reporting that is one of the major issues that they're getting reported within the health service we need support not
[29:26]targets that are put there that are setting dentists up to fail many many practices are wondering about their long-term future in the nhs because they don't see the support coming from the
[29:37]nhs at this particular time you say that you're facing more pressures than other areas of the nhs but how can you possibly believe that we've just been speaking to the the
[29:47]royal college of nursing saying that they're under huge stress and pressure at the moment i mean nobody saw kovid coming and we have to deal with it is it not time for you
[29:57]to think about your own working practices and how you can change them to improve so that these targets can be at least got close to well i think dental practices have
[30:07]adapted absolutely fantastically to the problems of the pandemic but other areas of the health service have been receiving funding for example additional support
[30:18]and and dentistry has not got that in the uh spending review that was done recently uh and the 5 billion pound that was there to actually deal with backlogs in the nhs not a single penny of that
[30:29]has come to dentistry and it's not all about the money but dentists feel like they're not being supported at this particular time and we are working in vulnerable
[30:39]situations close up to patients dealing with aerosol generating procedures yes we have all the procedures in place but that takes time and that doesn't allow us to see the
[30:50]volume of patients that the nhs are expecting us to see okay uh you make your point uh very well we appreciate your time this morning eddie crouch chair of the british dental
[31:00]association thank you okay let's see how your thursday weather is shaping up [Music]
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[33:01]phillips air purifiers hello again it's 7 47 if you're just joining us a very good morning time to look through the papers today i'm joined
[33:11]by journalists adam and thomas copeland nice to see you both uh again why don't we kick off uh with you this time thomas front page of the mirror a story that
[33:21]broke late last night our top story of course and the mirror uh their headlines simply guilty the conviction of galaine maxwell and when you read the detail it really
[33:32]is very depressing indeed yeah i mean it's a very disturbing story through and through watching the sky news reports this morning though i mean what strikes you is how long maxwell was able to get away
[33:44]with what she did the bbc have a comment on their website from their new york correspondent actually this morning that struck me comments about how the first time that this correspondent had come across
[33:54]maxwell was a decade ago chasing her down a street in manhattan asking her about exactly these kind of allegations so for for at least 10 years this is a pr this has been you know something that
[34:05]at least journalists were aware of and considerably longer than that for the victims uh epstein died in 2019 so he'll never be able to fully answer to his alleged crimes but it would appear that
[34:17]maxwell was very much a linchpin for all of those but of course you know there's no dignity in crime and much of maxwell's defense relied upon turning on her once partner in crime accusing um
[34:28]epstein of of using her as a scapegoat and how uh he was very much in control of all of this but of course watching most of the covers it's fairly clear that maxwell was fundamental um to
[34:39]fundamentals of these crimes taking place epstein couldn't have done it by himself as the allegation being made so you get the distinct impression though from all of this that this is really only scratching the
[34:50]surface about uh you know for 10 years for for far longer than 10 years between holidays and holiday homes and and travel and houses across the world you
[35:00]have sort of a network underneath which um underneath which these kind of crimes were taking place yeah you hope that this is the beginning of a process not only for you know the actual victims but
[35:11]also a much wider process for society in general uncovering some of the criminality that's that's taken place clearly hidden beneath that web of power wealth and influence yeah you make a very good point there after uh
[35:23]the ramifications of this case will continue weren't they oh absolutely and like thomas said earlier on and i think this was probably going to maybe open the floodgates for
[35:33]other people who were victims of jeffrey epstein angeline maxwell to come forward and talk about what they went through and i think that will be a good thing so they can be fully held accountable for
[35:45]the crimes they committed against so many young people but i also think this reminds me when we talk about these kind of cases money wealth and power and what they can do to hide your crimes it
[35:57]reminds me of the r kelly case again journalists knew for years of the crimes that he committed like journalists knew for years of the crimes that glenn maxwell and jeffrey epstein committed
[36:08]but they were able to cover them up like i said for years so i think this is far from over that more people will come forward but i also think it will encourage people who are perhaps victims
[36:19]of other people we don't know who they may be but who have gone through something similar to come forward and say look you know i went through this even if it is against a person who has money in power i think
[36:31]this is going to egg people on and and say that you know what you can get justice justice if that's what you deserve so i think we could see more of these cases coming forward as well but i
[36:42]think elaine maxwell probably going to prison for the rest of her life will definitely give her victims some sense of closure i also think this could put the spotlight on prince andrew of course
[36:53]he has denied all the allegations against him but u.s authorities are still looking to speak to him right okay uh we're we seem to be losing
[37:08]your signal again after it's not a good morning uh for your broadband uh thomas let's uh move on to uh testing and and the latest issues there because it's still a real problem isn't it people
[37:19]struggling to get lateral flow tests and pcr tests the guardians saying that the prime minister is to blame for the testing shambles this has been a major problem for huge
[37:30]numbers of people up and down the country i've been only in the last couple of days i've been checking the website trying to order some some lateral flow tests and you find that in many cases are simply unavailable i know that there are even more acute problems
[37:41]in england for example than there are in scotland wales and northern ireland and the pcr test is a very important part of that the way that the process is meant to work is you take a lateral flow test if you get a positive lateral flow test
[37:53]you send off for a pcr test so once you start to get not only a problem with lateral flow tests coming through the door but also then pcr test due to an increased demand you very quickly walk into a system that seems to be falling
[38:04]apart now i suppose the the reason that that the fingers being pointed by the at the prime minister in this article and elsewhere is for example him encouraging people to go out and actually the government's saying have a good time on
[38:15]new year's eve but increasingly saying that testing is the key so in the past we've talked about how you know vaccines are the way out of this noise there seems to be a little bit a move towards saying you
[38:26]know what's about testing is really important at this current phase of the pandemic but the problem with doing that of course is you need to make sure that before you tell people get testing get the lateral flow test get the pcr test
[38:37]you have enough capacity in order to allow people to do that when you've got people trying to get home for christmas maybe see some of their family you've got folks going out on new year's eve you've also got and this is one of the
[38:47]sort of a zeitgeisty thing isn't it when when you hear of one person getting a test or your family is getting attached you're more likely to do it yourself you're more likely to order more we should be encouraging people to get more tests and to do a quick test before they
[38:58]go out somewhere but there's no point in doing that if it's going to take 48 hours for people to you know for far longer than that or people will never be able to get tests and what that actually will lead to is more people inclined to
[39:09]break the rules for example if you want to visit maybe a family member in a nursing home or a hospital and you're encouraged to take a lateral flow test before you go there if you aren't able to get one then clearly it is the case
[39:20]that you know your desperation maybe to see a family member will overcome those initial thoughts to do with that yeah you make a very good point there and that that is a real problem uh the government's saying that eight million tests are going to be put into
[39:31]the system uh very soon we shall wait and see um staying with kovid um we've got afford back uh now um afwa the financial times uh talking about the um
[39:42]tsunami of covid around the world um it is a real issue isn't it while casey is obviously going up here in the uk and the u.s as well more record levels of kovi cases but
[39:54]elsewhere in the world really the problems are only just beginning oh yes absolutely and this is the director general of the wh holy doctor tedros cabrerases and he has warned of
[40:06]this tsunami as you put it of covert um around the world we've had record cases in the us 265 000 daily in france 208 000 in germany
[40:17]13 000 omnicorn cases um and here's warning of a surge of omicron and delta all over the world india is reporting a surge in cases as well and he says you
[40:28]know even though omicron is being reported as being mulder that we shouldn't be complacent the cases are going to put um pressure on health care workers and healthcare systems around
[40:38]the world but he also commented on booster vaccines which i thought was really interesting and he said that there has been more booster vaccines given out in richer countries than there
[40:49]has been the total number of vaccines that's first and second doses that have gone out in lower and middle income countries and that
[41:01]explanation oh i thought we need to get we need to give your broadband a booster uh that's what we're going to have to try and sort out for the next hour uh thomas we talked about dinosaurs earlier just give
[41:11]me 20 seconds on the tequila fish well it's the headline of the day the guardian is reporting at the times is reporting another shot they said for the
[41:20]tequila fish well hey wake up favorite headline of the day it's a fish that chester zoo actually in the uk has helped to rehabilitate it was declared extinct from the wild in 2003 as being
[41:31]reintroduced you can see a picture of it there lovely little thing back into the wild so a little bit of good news story uh and a wonderful headline thomas we're
[41:40]out time thanks very much