MTG's transformation: From Trump loyalist to Trump critic

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[0:00]a national divorce. That is a direct quote. She  tweeted this week that we need to separate by red and red states and blue states and shrink the  federal government. Everyone I talked to says this from the sick and disgusting woke culture  issues shoved down our throats to the Democrats
[0:16]traitorous America last policies. We are done. She  tweeted about it once and then she tweeted about it again and again and she just kept tweeting  about it. And if all of that wasn't enough, Green felt the need to elaborate further on  all of this. The national divorce is not a
[0:35]civil war. It's actually separating  by red states and blue states. Um, and making state rights and state power a lot  stronger than it is right now. Um, it would be shrinking the federal government. I think it's  something that we should work towards because,
[0:51]you know, it's kind of the vision that our  founding fathers had for America. And I think it's a great one. It worked in the beginning. We  just got it completely out of control. It It's crazy that I have to say this, but the civil  war was fought to prevent the red states and
[1:07]the blue states from splitting up. CNN originally  spoke to about two dozen House Republican members of the so-called MAGO wing of the party. They  said they're not ready yet to endorse the former president's candidacy. That is despite intense  lobbying by his allies. A top concern, they say,
[1:20]is his electability. One House Republican who is  still firmly in his camp is Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green. On Tuesday during a meeting  the Republicans election integrity caucus, she was back to pushing false baseless claims that  the election was stolen. This time in the face
[1:35]literally of one of the top election officials  in her state, Georgia, Gabriel Sterling, who has bravely resisted immense pressure to overturn the  election there. Here's how that went down. Gabe, I do not consider you an expert on this issue. As  a matter of fact, I consider you a major problem.
[1:51]For you to say there were no dead voters in  Georgia, that's that is there was there was thousands of dead voters in Georgia. And then  and then the other thing is you have constantly shilled for this election. And I'm going to tell  you it's it there was blatant outright fraud in
[2:07]the 2020 election. Complete and total fraud.  You know it. You absolutely do know it. And I'm going to follow up with one more thing. Trump won  Georgia. I know you don't like for me to say that, but I am convinced that he did. For the She's  convinced. For the record, the former president
[2:22]lost Georgia by 11,779 votes in a state run  by Republican. Congresswoman Marjgerie Taylor Green is being accused of veiled racism after  a shouting match with Democrat Jamal Bowman. The argument was over the potential expulsion of  indicted Republican Congressman George Santos.
[2:41]The party has to kick him out. He's embarrassing  y'all. The party's hanging by a thread. The party is hanging. The party's hanging by a thread.  You got to save the party. Listen, no more QA.
[3:01]The congresswoman suggested she felt physically  threatened by Bowman because he was a had a quote history of aggression. Listen. What concerns  me about Jamal Bowman is he has a history of
[3:16]aggression. What's on video is Jamal Bowman  shouting at the top of his lungs, cursing, calling me a horrible calling me a white  supremacist, which I take great offense to. That is like calling a person of color the  n-word, which should never happen. Calling me
[3:33]a white supremacist is equal to that. And I  am concerned about I feel threatened by him. She was likely hearkening back to this incident  last month. Any rhetoric that uplifts white
[3:47]supremacy, we are pushing back against that in all  its forms. Marjgery Taylor Green needs a take her ass back to Washington. This was Congressman  Bowman's response to what Green has said.
[4:04]Unfortunately, this country has a history of  characterizing black men who are outspoken, who stand their ground, and who push back  as being threatening or intimidating. So, she's not even using a dog whistle. She's using  a bullhorn to put a target on my back. I never
[4:21]invaded her personal space. I was laughing  and gregarious the entire time. How is that intimidating? Unfortunately, white supremacists  historically, this is what they do. Here's why
[4:33]he's saying that. This is some important context  you should know. Green is the same person who chased down a teenage survivor of Florida's  deadliest school shooting who was on the hill advocating for gun control. Watch. You don't  have anything. You don't have anything to say
[4:48]for yourself. You can't defend your stance. How  did you get over 30 appointments with senators? And this February, Green spoke at a white  nationalist conference organized by well-known
[5:03]white supremacist Nick Fuentes. Congresswoman  Jasmine Crockett is not backing down, calling her Republican colleague Marjgerie Taylor Green  racist after a contentious committee meeting. A late night House oversight markup last night was  derailed for nearly an hour after Green mocked
[5:19]Crockett. You can see for yourself. Do you know  what we're here for? You know we're here about I don't think you know what you're here for.  Well, you the one talking about I guess I think your fake eyelashes are messing up the Hold on.  Hold on. Order. Mr. Chairman, that's beneath even
[5:39]order of your committee. Order, please. We have  a point of order. We have a point of order. Uh, Mr. Lynch, I do have a point of order and I would  like to move to to take down Miss Green's words. That is absolutely unacceptable. How dare you  a muscle appearance of another person? Are your
[5:57]feelings hurt? Take her words down. Oh. Oh, girl.  Baby girl. Oh, really? Don't even play. Baby girl, we are going to move and we're going to take your  words down. Thank you. I second that motion. Now,
[6:11]after that, there was a failed vote to  strike Green's comments from the record, and she was allowed to continue her remarks, and  that's when Crockett stepped back into the fray. I'm just curious just to better understand your  ruling. If someone on this committee then starts
[6:27]talking about somebody's bleach blind bad  built butch body that would not be engaging in personalities. Correct. A what now chairman  I make I make a motion to strike those verdict.
[6:43]I'm trying to get clarification. Look  at calm down. Calm down. No, no, no, no. Because this is what y'all do. I'm trying to  get Stop it. You're not recognized. I can't hear you with your yelling. Don't want me calm  down. Can you please calm down? Don't tell
[6:55]me to calm down. Because y'all talk and then  you can't control if I talk [ __ ] about her, y'all. Green brushed off any criticism that  she got over the last 24 hours, writing this.
[7:09]AOC isn't intelligent. Jasmine Crockett has fake  eyelashes. These aren't attacks on personalities. These are just facts. Dr. Anthony Fouchy, who  became the face of America's response to the
[7:21]COVID pandemic, went before Congress today for  the first time since retiring from government service two years ago. For perhaps his final  showdown with Republicans over mask mandates, vaccine guidelines, and the origins of CO 19,  things quickly went from tense to emotional
[7:40]to chaotic. Exhibit A, Georgia Congresswoman  Marjorie Taylor Green. Do you represent science, Mr. Fouchy? Yes or no? No, that's not a yes or no  answer. Yes, it's a yes or no. This is science.
[7:54]What does dogs have to do with anything that we're  talking about? These are these are scientific experiments. You're not doctor. You're Mr. Fouchy  in my few minutes. He belongs in prison. Suspend. I've instructed her to address him as doctor.  address him as doctor. Is this what we have
[8:13]become? Is this what we have devolved into? We  should be writing a criminal referral because you should be pro prosecuted for crimes against  humanity. You belong in prison. Dr. Fouchy,
[8:26]Marjorie Taylor Green, who obviously has been one  of the most vocal um of those saying he shouldn't have done the strikes. She said this to Manu  Raji just a few moments ago. Take a listen. And we saw President Trump's measured response  and his message on Truth Social is exactly the
[8:43]same messaging that we elected him for. He wants  peace. He wants this to end and he's going to urge Israel that it's time to end. I believe  she said that to Manu before the president uh posted about the the potential ceasefire.  Of course, that comes a few hours, I think,
[8:58]after she posted on uh TR or on X. It feels like  a complete bait and switch to please the neocons, wararm mongers, military-industrial complex  contracts, and neocon TV personalities that MAGA hates and who were never Trumpers. Minutes  before the president's ceasefire announcement,
[9:15]she said this. I think what you're seeing is a  very big divide in the MAGA base. And I think that's also something important to talk about.  And I think it's generational. We've been lied to too many times. And I think it's right to be  skeptical. Um, but I think you're seeing a major
[9:33]divide in Republican voters now as a potential  end to this conflict is on the horizon. The congressman writes on social media, "Thank you,  President Trump, for pursuing peace." For the first time in his political life, Donald Trump  is losing control of the message. The MAGA base
[9:49]is demanding answers after Attorney General Pam  Bondi announced that Jeffrey Epstein did not have a client list. At the time of his death, Epstein  faced charges over the sex trafficking of underage girls. How big of a blowback is there right now  in MAGA world specifically? It's pretty big. I
[10:06]have to be honest. It it's just a red line that  it crosses for many people. Uh Jeffrey Epstein is literally the most well-known convicted pedophile  in modern day history. This is something that's been talked about uh by many people serving in  the administration, myself and and many others
[10:22]uh on the right and the left of of there needing  to be transparency of the rich and powerful elites that were in his circle while he was um just one  of the worst serial uh abusers of of young women.
[10:39]It has been um a very serious situation for the  administration and many people are speaking out um online. You've seen it. You saw it at Turning  Point soon and action summon this weekend. Um and a lot of people in MAGA, they they really  want to know more information about the people
[10:55]uh that were involved with Jeffrey Epstein  and is there a blackmail list and are there foreign countries governments involved and there's  nothing wrong with people continuing to ask that. President Trump has declared he is officially  pulling his endorsement of MAGA firebrand Marjgery
[11:10]Taylor Green. The Georgia congresswoman has been  demanding the release of the Epstein files and has criticized the president for spending  too much time abroad. The president, well, has apparently heard enough, posting on Truth  Social overnight that all wacky Marjgery Taylor
[11:25]Green does is complain, complain, complain. I  think that her constituents aren't going to be happy. Already I have people calling me. They  want to challenge her to a race in her district
[11:37]in Georgia. And you know that's too bad. She's  lost a wonderful conservative reputation. But when she says don't go overseas, if I didn't go  overseas, we might be in a war right now with
[11:50]China. I stood with President Trump when virtually  no one else did. Campaigned all over the country. Spent millions of my own dollars helping him get  elected. And I think that's incredibly important.
[12:02]and I do support him and his administration and I  support them in delivering the campaign promises we made to the American people. His remarks of  course have been hurtful. Um, however, I I have
[12:15]something in my heart that I think is incredibly  important for our country and that is to end the toxic fighting in politics. And this has been  going on for years and it has divided our country,
[12:28]split up friends and families. um neighbors  and it's not solving our problems. Um the most hurtful thing he said which is absolutely untrue  is he called me a traitor and that is that is so
[12:43]extremely wrong and those are the types of words  um used that can radicalize people against me and put my life in danger. What do you think happened?  What do you think is the reason for this?
[13:01]Unfortunately, it has all come down to the  Epstein files. And that is shocking. And you know, I I stand with these women. I stand with  rape victims. I stand with children who are in terrible sex abuse situations. And I stand  with survivors of of trafficking and those that
[13:19]are trapped in in sex trafficking. And I I will  not apologize for that. I I believe the country deserves transparency in these files and I I  don't believe that that rich powerful people
[13:33]should be protected if they have if they have done  anything wrong and and so I'm standing with the women and I will continue to do my small part to  get the files released. You said on X yesterday,
[13:47]quote, "It's astonishing really how hard he's  fighting to stop the Epstein files from coming out and that it really makes you wonder  what is in those files." Are you suggesting
[13:59]there's something in the Epstein files that  President Trump does not want Americans to see? Well, I think that's the part that has so many  people confused is that the women themselves that
[14:13]I have talked to have over and over again said  that Donald Trump did nothing wrong. Um, quite a few of them even told me they voted for him. And  those are the women I would like to see in the Oval Office uh with support. I would like to see  all of the women there with support. Um, I have no
[14:31]idea what's in the files. I I I can't even guess.  But that is the questions everyone is asking is why fight this so hard? Well, before this blow up,  you you sort of alluded to this just now. You said
[14:43]you were confident the president wouldn't be  implicated. Are you still confident of that? I I'm listening to the women. Those are the  ones that are saying that he did nothing wrong.
[14:56]Uh Virginia Grey even said under oath that Donald  Trump did nothing wrong and she wrote it in her book. So I'm continuing to listening to the  women and I think their voices should be the loudest. You posted on X that President Trump  is with his comments fueling a quote hotbed of
[15:13]threats against you. Obviously any threats to  your safety are completely unacceptable. But we have seen these kinds of attacks or criticism  from the president at other people. It's not new.
[15:27]And with respect, I haven't heard you speak  out about it until it was directed at you. Dana, I think that's fair criticism. And I would  like to say humbly, I'm sorry for taking part in
[15:43]the toxic uh politics. It's it's very bad for our  country. Um, and I've it's been something I've thought about a lot, especially since Charlie Kirk  was assassinated, is that we I'm only responsible
[15:58]for myself and my own words and actions. And I  am going I am committed and I've been working on this a lot lately to put down the knives and  politics. I really just want to see people be
[16:12]kind to one another. And we need to figure out a  new path forward that is focused on the American people because as Americans, no matter what side  of the aisle we're on, we have far more in common
[16:25]than we have differences. And we need to be able  to respect each other with our disagreements. So, just to put a button on this, you regret the  things that you have said and posted in the past,
[16:37]the Facebook uh post that was taken down  of you in 2020 holding a gun alongside uh the squad encouraging people to go on the  offense against the socialists, liking uh a tweet
[16:50]of somebody calling for the execution of Nancy  Pelosi and former President Obama. Just examples. Well, Dana, as you know, and many people know,  I addressed that back in 2021. And of course,
[17:05]um I never want to cause any harm or or anything  bad for anyone. So, that that was addressed back then and I very much stand by my words I said  then and I stand by my words today. I think America needs to come together and end all the  toxic, dangerous rhetoric and divide. and I'm
[17:24]leading the way with my own example and I  hope that President Trump can do the same. Some breaking political news tonight and it is  big breaking political news. Just moments ago, the Republican Congresswoman Marjgery Taylor  Green posted on her exount the announcement.
[17:38]She's resigning. President Trump posted yesterday  that you are quote and I'm quoting him now America first or MAGA and your quote new views  are those of a very dumb person. That's the president of the United States speaking  about your speaking about you. What's your
[17:53]response to these latest attacks? Well, actually,  Wolf, I feel very sorry for President Trump. I I genuinely do. It It has to be a hard place  for someone that is constantly so hateful,
[18:08]um, and puts so much vitriol, name calling, and  really tells lies about people, um, in order to try to get his way or or win some kind of fight.  And I think that's exactly what's wrong in America
[18:23]today. That's what's wrong in this toxic political  environment that has ripped our country apart. And I I personally think that that's poor leadership  from a president. Um it's it's a very bad demeanor
[18:37]and and Americans are very tired of it. You are  a longtime loyal supporter of President Trump, but you you broke with him in part because you  felt he was too focused on foreign affairs rather than the America first promises he's made. on  he made on the companion trail as we enter day
[18:53]17 of the Iran war. Do you believe the president's  voters can trust him? Well, just to be clear, the president vote uh broke with me over the Epstein  files. Um so that that always has to be said. Uh
[19:07]he called me a traitor because I stood with women  who were raped when they were 14 and 16. But I do completely disagree uh where the president has led  the country. You know what? It makes absolutely no
[19:20]sense, Pamela, going into midterm elections. Let's  remove Donald Trump out of it. Let's just put any president in there. Why would an American  president lead his political party into the
[19:32]midterms waging a full-scale major war completely  unprovoked on on Iran um on behalf of Israel? And that's the way most Americans see it. They see  this is for Israel, not for America. Why would an
[19:46]American president do that, which is forcing gas  prices to hike right here going into spring break where families are going to be driving out of town  going into summer um declaring and and waging a major full-scale war that that seems to have no  end in sight. This is absolutely absurd and it's
[20:05]100% a betrayal to what MAGA was supposed to be  when we voted in 2024 and it's turned into some some perverted deranged version of MAGA now that  nobody wants. How insulting is it to Americans
[20:21]that the GOP can't even fund Homeland Security  right now? our own government that protects our own homeland while they're waging some war uh like  6,800 miles away in a country that none of us have
[20:35]ever been to against a foreign people that none  of us know uh killing killing many of these people even to the point of killing their children. It's  just absolutely absurd. I know you recently called for the president to be removed from office under  the 25th amendment to the constitution after that
[20:53]threat that he made about destroying the whole  civilization of Iran. The president has a long history of shocking and unprecedented social  media posts. Why was this the final straw for you? Because it's absolute madness. How can  any person that is mentally stable call for
[21:12]an entire civilization of people to be murdered,  to be wiped out, to never come back again? That's what the president called for. And that that shows  that there's serious instability in his thinking
[21:27]that he would not only would he even say that  in a private room perhaps with his adviserss, but actually go to his megaphone, his truth  social, and post that for the entire country
[21:40]and the entire world. And I'm this is it's it's  it's unreal. This should never be tolerated. Um, I know that's a it's a very difficult, hard  stretch to to see it actually coming through, but
[21:55]the conversation needs to be had and he's out of  control and people within the administration need to step up, take responsibility and reign this in.  I don't think that our good men and women in the
[22:08]US military would want to even carry something  like that out. I that's that's the other thing. Um, and I think that's important to point out. We  have we our men and women in the military are the greatest among us. They're serving our country,  defending our freedoms, and I'm so grateful to
[22:24]them and I support them so much. But we should  never have a commanderin-chief that that would call for for the great men and women of the United  States military to wipe out an entire civilation
[22:37]civilization and put that on their shoulders. And  you know, we've already got so many veterans that live with PTSD every single day in America. Um  that that can't sleep at night with terrible
[22:50]nightmares of of the wars that they fought in in  foreign lands, foreign wars, in foreign lands. Um not for America, for foreign countries and  foreign purposes. And this is what the president
[23:02]was talking about. So I can only take him at his  word because those are the words that he spoke to the entire world. There's also a new report out  today, uh, an extensive report that's in the New York Times, and it's based on Maggie Haberman  and Jonathan Swann's upcoming new book that's
[23:18]about to to be published called Regime Change. And  they write in this new report today about how the release of the Epstein files, debating over how  to handle Jeffrey Epstein, basically paralyzed the White House. And there were meetings in the  situation room even were obviously, you know,
[23:34]of the utmost national security concern. meetings  pertaining to that happened. When you read that and you hear that the president's team, the vice  president, the chief of staff, everyone's meeting inside the the sitroom about Jeffrey Epstein, what  does it tell you about how they viewed that story?
[23:53]Well, unfortunately, that's not new news to me.  Um, unfortunately, that was something that I lived through. I watched the speaker of the house  shut down the government for um and keep the house completely out of session for eight weeks  in the fall of 2025 simply because he was under
[24:10]orders of the president and and his team um not  to do anything in the House of Representatives because they were doing everything they could do  to stop that resolution from passing the House.
[24:24]the same resolution that I signed the discharge  petition to force to a vote on the floor. Um, I'm not surprised by this news, Caitlyn, because I  also had a very uncomfortable phone call with the president um before the release of the Epstein  files where he told me that his friends would
[24:41]get hurt if the files were released. And I'll  never forget that. I'll also never forget the text message he sent me when I told him that  my son's life was being threatened because he was calling me a traitor because I fought  to release the Epstein files where he told me
[24:57]that I deserved it. And so this doesn't shock me  that his team was paralyzed. Um but I tell you what it is. It's it's absolutely ridiculous and  unforgivable. We're talking about pedophiles and
[25:11]rapists of the elite class of people that never  get held accountable for anything. So if they were paralyzed and scared and didn't know what  to do about releasing the Epstein files, these
[25:24]people are absolutely absurd. They don't deserve  the American people's trust. As a matter of fact, we should consider them as um they should be  considered traitors. They're traitors. The ones that refuse to release Epstein files want to  cover up for pedophiles and rapists and all sorts
[25:42]of disgusting things in these files. Those are the  traitors to the American people and they should be ashamed of themselves. Uh I mean it this report  basically says it was the president who didn't want anything released. Are you saying that that  that applies to the president himself? I'm saying
[26:01]exactly that. He told me on the phone that  his friends would get hurt and that's why he's against releasing the Epstein files and I I think  we've seen a lot of that dribble out. So yeah,
[26:14]it all matches it. It completely adds up  from the phone call that I had with the president to to this report uh that is coming  out. It it it totally it all lines up. I mean,
[26:26]it's pretty remarkable to hear you say that  that you think the president is a traitor. What is remarkable to me is that this  administration, people that we voted for
[26:40]demanding transparency, the man that campaigned  all over the country claiming that he would be the one to drain the swamp is the very man that fought  to keep the Epstein files from being released. And
[26:54]then he in turn called me the traitor because I  fought to release the Epstein files. You know, many people have have turned and said, "Oh, she's  a Democrat now." I'm not a Democrat. Nothing
[27:06]changed about my views. I'm I'm unapologetically  America first. As a matter of fact, I've taken off the Team Party jerseys. I don't want anything to  do with any of them. I'm straight down the line strictly for the American people. Um, but it's  it's really it's it's been shocking uh to people,
[27:25]many people that voted for Donald Trump, many  people that voted Republican, that they would actually follow through to try to cover up the  Epstein files. And um that's that's the part that
[27:38]that everyone just can't even understand. Do you  regret supporting Trump for president? And where do you think the movement and the country is  headed? And will you position yourself to try
[27:50]to take, you know, at least the Republican side  back to what you believe to be the America first principles? I don't regret what I campaigned on  because nothing about me has changed. And in 2024
[28:05]when I helped President Trump get elected, uh, he  was pretty clear on what we were campaigning on. What I don't support is the man that he's  turning into be a man that is hellbent on war and
[28:19]destruction. Uh has forgotten about the American  people that are struggling so much economically and and has basically gotten incredibly focused  on his biggest donors and their top issues. That's
[28:32]what I'm against. Going forward, I'm looking  past Donald Trump. I'm looking towards a future that is focused on my children's generation.  They're all in their 20s and I think that's the generation that we should be fighting  for and that's the generation that's been
[28:46]largely failed. So I will continue to be vocal  because we have to look towards the future and and how to solve those problems for the American  people. Um and and so that's where my focus lies.