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[0:17]Good morning. It's 6 o'clock on today's show. Democrats released Jeffrey Epstein's birthday letter and it doesn't look good for Donald Trump. Plus, nominations open this morning in
[0:27]Labour's deputy leadership contest. Left-wingers are already accusing the leadership of the mother of all stitchups. >> It's Tuesday, September 9th, coming your
[0:37]way. The White House denies allegations that President Trump drew a picture of a naked woman for convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's birthday.
[0:48]The new Labour cabinet meets in Downing Street for the first time this morning as battle lines are drawn over the deputy leadership contest.
[0:58]Schools are to get new look report cards despite criticism from some teachers. Prince Harry talks to children at an awards ceremony about the challenges of
[1:09]having a big brother and Nuno Esprinto Santo is out. Nottingham Forest sacked their most successful manager since Brian Kloff.
[1:21][Music] Hello. Good morning everyone. Well, the Democrats have released a lured birthday
[1:33]letter sent to Jeffrey Epstein that appears to be signed by Donald Trump. The White House has rejected the claims, calling the card to the convicted sex offender a fake. Now, part of the
[1:44]document also includes messages from the UK's ambassador to Washington, Peter Mandolen. Our US correspondent, James Matthews, reports.
[1:54]>> This is the British angle on a scandal. Lord Mandelson, the UK ambassador who counted Jeffrey Epstein as his best pal.
[2:04]These are pictures from a newly released birthday book. Mandolson was among friends who celebrated Epstein's 50th birthday with the message, "We love you." There was the picture of a
[2:16]tropical island. And there was the message about glorious homes he likes to share with his friends. Brackets yum yum. In May of this year, Sky News asked
[2:26]Lord Mandlesson about Epstein and stay in his New York flat after he'd been convicted. >> My knowledge of him is something uh that I regret. I wish I'd never met him in the first place.
[2:37]>> Why did you have an association with him? Because he was in jail at the time. >> Why Why did many people uh meet him? He was a prolific uh networker and I wish I'd
[2:49]never met him in the first place. Britain's man in Washington isn't the only name that jumps out from these files. Donald Trump's White House has again denied he had any part in this. A
[2:59]handdrawn figure of a woman signed Donald beneath the waist. And the line, "A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday and may every day be another
[3:09]wonderful secret." There are numerous contributors to these documents. It's a disturbing read given Epstein's history. This appears to be a note from former
[3:19]President Bill Clinton. He speaks of Epstein's childlike curiosity and drive to make a difference. The name Trump features on an outsized check held by
[3:30]Epstein. It's signed DJ Trump. >> There's no suggestion either president did anything improper. >> But for all names in the book compiled by Epstein's co-conspirator, Gillian
[3:40]Maxwell, it makes for uncomfortable reading. James Matthews, Sky News in Washington. >> A new Labour cabinet meets in Downing
[3:52]Street for the first time this morning as battle lines are drawn over the deputy leadership contest. Nominations open today. Uh we're joined by political correspondent Tamara Cohen. Morning
[4:02]tomorrow. So the timeline for all of this is pretty tight. The stakes are high. What's the mood like in Labor? >> That's right. So this is one of the jobs vacated by Angela Raina. She was deputy
[4:14]prime minister and has been replaced by David Lammy, but she was also the elected deputy leader of the Labour Party. Now, that position is chosen by Labor Parliamentarians and anyone who
[4:26]runs needs to get 20% of them and because they have so many MPs at the moment, that means 80 names supporting them and it's a very high bar. So, we're seeing already people who'd been talked
[4:36]about ruling themselves out because uh they've realized they want to spend more time in their constituency perhaps feeling that they haven't got the numbers. So I think the left of the party very much want to field a
[4:47]candidate and already we've seen the London MP Bel Roberto Addi saying that she is going to throw her hat into the ring but acknowledging that they need to get those nominations by Thursday
[4:57]afternoon. It's going to be tough. She said that she would be putting her ideas forward over what she called an undemocratic three days. One of her supporters, very leftwing MP, Richard
[5:07]Bergen has said this. The leadership of the party has tried to rush the MP's nomination process through in just a couple of days, which I think makes it
[5:16]the mother of all stitchups. So, who might number 10 want to run for this post? Been lots of talk about the need for someone from outside London given
[5:26]that uh Karma and David Lami are both London MPs. Um there is talk of perhaps the education secretary, Bridget Phillips, a Sunderland MP, throwing her hat into the ring. uh Lucy Powell who's
[5:36]recently been thrown out of the cabinet has also been suggested and there was other people at the kind of ministerial but not cabinet level uh like Allison McGovern uh who was a welfare minister
[5:47]uh she is also a northern MP. If there was somebody who had the leadership's backing it would be a lot easier for them to say to all the MPs who are on the payroll who are ministers or have
[5:58]some kind of job vote for this person then they would get 80. So, I think the question is really how many candidates there end up being. Are we talking about three or two or possibly even just one? >> Yeah, there's a lot of maths that goes
[6:08]into how many candidates there could be. All right. Um, tomorrow, thank you so much for that. Really appreciate it. Just a reminder that Sky News will be hosting the immigration debate in Birmingham this Wednesday, the 10th of
[6:19]September. Uh, it'll be hosted by Sky Trevor Phillips and representatives of the main parties. They'll be there, too. Scan the QR code. It's on the screen now if you'd like to be in the audience and
[6:30]ask a question. Other news now and parents in England will receive redesigned Offstead report cards from November as part of changes
[6:40]to the way schools are inspected. Now the reforms were initiated following a difficult period for Offstead after the death of headteer Ruth Perry last year.
[6:51]Now, Miss Perry took her own life after her reading primary school was downgraded from outstanding to inadequate. Teaching unions have criticized the new system, saying it
[7:01]puts even more pressure on teachers. >> We are going to have more measuring, more areas of judgment. It's going to be a fivepoint scale that's going to be
[7:11]colorcoded like Nando. It's going to add pressure onto schools, not reduce it. It's not going to give parents more information. and is also uh going to increase the workload across the
[7:23]profession. >> There's been an explosion on board a boat attempting to carry aid to Gaza. Organizers of the Gaza tiller say it was
[7:34]struck by a drone off the coast of Tunisia. All six passengers and crew are safe. Tunisia's National Guard say the
[7:42]reports of a drone are untrue. The real life succession battle from Rert Murdoch's media empire has come to
[7:52]an end with Rert Murdoch's eldest son due to take control of the family's media empire. Luckland Murdoch will take full control of Murdoch's outlet. This
[8:02]includes Fox News and the Wall Street Journal. While his siblings, James, Elizabeth, and Prudence will give up their voting rights in return for a billion dollar payout.
[8:14]And France's outgoing prime minister will formally tender his resignation later today after losing a vote of confidence. President Mron must now choose his fifth prime minister in just
[8:25]two years. Our Europe correspondent Alistister Bunkl reports. >> France's prime minister arrived in the National Assembly to hear a fate that he
[8:35]already knew. The country was glued to the latest political turmoil in Paris as Francois Beiru made a final pitch to stay in office and push through economic reforms that he believes are long
[8:46]overdue. You have the power to overthrow the government, but you do not have the power to erase reality. Reality will
[8:57]remain inexurable. Spending will continue to rise and the weight of debt already intolerable will be heavier and more expensive. He failed resoundingly
[9:14]for 194 against 364. The prime minister needs to deliver his resignation from government to the president of the republic. >> Well, the outcome was never in doubt. It
[9:26]was always a question of how big's defeat was going to be. The result is just in and he's lost by a majority of
[9:35]170 MPs. In the end, it wasn't even close. Emanuel Macron is now left with no good choices. He must find a new prime
[9:46]minister, his fifth in just over two years, and his own future is also now in doubt. >> One way to achieve stability is to have fresh assembly elections or fresh
[9:57]presidential elections and to try and break the deadlock. Would you not agree with that? >> Or or fresh new prime minister. It's it's a solution. >> Should it be the fifth in two years,
[10:07]fifth in almost two years? I mean, it hasn't been five times before. if this new prime minister
[10:14]try to um to to work with a larger part of the the parliament. >> The farright politician who could be
[10:25]France's next president told me that new elections are now the only way to break the deadlock. >> Will you vote against Franis Beu today? >> We have no confidence in Mr. Bor's
[10:37]ability to address the country's problems. We gave him his chance. But from the moment any government, no matter who is leading it, chooses to continue Emanuel Mong's policies,
[10:47]despite the French having rejected those policies in the most recent European and legislative elections, then confidence is simply not possible. >> Franis Beu will hand in his resignation,
[10:59]but temporarily remain in office whilst Macron tries to find his replacement. He will want to move fast. Strikes and protests are planned for the coming weeks and France's economic crisis will
[11:10]only worsen. Alistister Bungle, Sky News in Paris. >> Nepole has lifted a ban on social media after the deaths of at least 19 people
[11:20]during protest against the ban in the country's capital just yesterday. Let's go live now to Neville Lazareth who joins us from Delhi. Uh Neville, just bring viewers up to date on what they
[11:32]need to know on this story. Morning. >> Morning. Uh yes, there this this ban has been revoked. The home minister of uh the country resigned. There's an
[11:42]investigation being launched into uh the unprecedented violence that took place yesterday, killing 19 and injuring 300, some with some very serious uh injuries
[11:53]because of uh live fire from uh by the police and also uh tear gas, water cannons and baitons used against these protesters who were marching down
[12:04]thousands of them against uh corruption and also a ban on social media platforms. the 26 uh social media platforms, some of the biggest names
[12:13]could YouTube, WhatsApp, Facebook, uh Instagram, Snapchat, etc. Uh now the government said uh had said that they wanted to uh uh wanted these companies
[12:25]to register and pay taxes. They also were supported by a ruling by the Supreme Court uh on on this matter. But uh the protesters say that this is a means of censorship. They want to
[12:36]control content of any sort of criticism of the government. Also, uh a a a lot of these uh platforms are used by small and medium uh scale businesses to to trade
[12:47]and and will have a detrimental effect on the economy, on their businesses, on their livelihood. Uh there there's a lot of suspicion amongst people because a number of legislative acts are in the
[12:58]pipeline which are very authoritarian, restrictive and intrusive uh which could be brought in by this government and therefore we saw these large protests
[13:07]and this unprecedented sort of um violence against them which you know sort of were played these scenes were played in when the mouse revolution
[13:17]happened against the monarchy uh and and a republic was born into in 2018 in uh 208
[13:24]uh to 2008 in Nepal and uh we've seen curfew being imposed now uh it happened last night and unsort of u unrestricted
[13:36]curfew being imposed early since morning since 8:30 in the morning uh across uh most parts of uh the capital and in in
[13:46]many other cities in Nepal but there have been some pockets of uh of protest taking place uh ac across uh across the
[13:55]capital city as well. But uh for the moment uh it just seems to be much calmer and quieter than what happened yesterday. Uh but it is a precarious
[14:06]situation as the government has backed down. Uh but the protesters say that they will they will carry on their protest against corruption in the country and also want some sort of
[14:18]justice uh for those who died. And many of them were young uh were young people in in Kathmandu that marched uh against these uh against the government and
[14:29]against uh the security forces yesterday. >> Neville, thank you. Prince Harry has spoken to children at an awards ceremony about the challenges
[14:40]of having a big brother. He was at the World Child Awards in London last night which celebrates the achievements of seriously ill children. And I'm joined by our correspondent this morning, Emma Burchley. So he's in London. He's at
[14:52]this awards ceremony, and he's speaking quite openly about the troubles he has with his big brother. >> Yeah. So he flew in from the US yesterday morning. Lots of charity
[15:03]engagements, and this one, he's a patron of WellChild. He has been for 17 years. There's the awards ceremony and all the bits that are planned. He says that the seriously ill children are a beacon of
[15:14]hope and inspiration. and he also meets behind the scenes some of the children and that's when this conversation is overheard. So he talks to one of the teenagers about his relationship with
[15:25]his brother. He says, "Do you get on?" And he said, "Oh yes, we do." Uh and Harry says, "Ah, you know what, siblings?" Aha. Um so, uh clearly a
[15:36]little hint there that things aren't so good still with William. And I think there will be a lot of people wondering whether while he's over here this time he does actually meet up with any of his
[15:46]family. Now the signs aren't good so far. So yesterday he went to Windsor. It was 3 years since Queen Elizabeth died. He laid flowers at her resting place in
[15:58]St. George's Chapel there. Meanwhile, a matter of miles away, Prince William is also paying his own tribute by by visiting a women's institute. The Queen
[16:08]obviously had huge ties with the the WI and there is no indication that they will actually be meeting. And then of course there's the relationship with his
[16:18]father, King Charles. Uh the last time they met was not long after his cancer diagnosis which was in February of last year. Now Charles we know is in Scotland
[16:30]at the moment. There is still time. Harry's got further engagements. is going to Nottingham today for some children in need. Um, uh, donation for a
[16:41]project there. >> Private account, no. You know, I heard that it was it was from his private donation for children in need, which >> Okay. Yeah. Interesting. >> And then tomorrow, another thing that's
[16:53]close to him, he's going to Imperial College London for the Center for Blast Injury Studies. >> Um, so various charity engagements. So, there's still time, but nothing official
[17:04]that we know of. >> Okay. If you hear anything, will you let me know? >> Yeah. Okay. >> All right. Thank you. >> And at 9:30, we'll speak to 14year-old Alysia Palira, who won the World Child
[17:15]Award last night, attended by Prince Harry. How amazing is that? Look forward to that. Uh let's take a look at today's weather, though, because the weather will turn more unsettled this week as a
[17:26]new area of low pressure moves in. Uh temperatures are are trending downward and the nights are becoming distinctly chilly in rural spots. There'll be a
[17:36]largely dry start for the UK mainland with early sunshine. Ireland, West Wales, and the Southwest will be more cloudy with outbreaks of showery rain and a freezing breeze. Now, the wet
[17:47]weather will make little eastward progress through the morning, but showers will develop over southern counties. And for the rest of the country, fair weather cloud will bubble up. Uh but the emphasis will be on dry
[17:59]conditions. Temperatures will reach 20 to 21 Celsius in the brighter spots at the late teens Celsius elsewhere. And there'll be little change through the afternoon, but showers will tend to die
[18:11]away towards the evening. And the showery rain over Ireland and the southwest will sweep eastwards overnight with more persistent rain following into the west and winds will become strong
[18:21]with gales likely around Irish sea coasts and hills. Still to come on the Breakfast Show, we're heading for a short break, but when we return, the British horse racing
[18:33]industry is set to strike to protest proposals to raise betting tax.
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[21:42]based in Delhi. [Music] Welcome back. Now, the horse racing
[21:54]industry is set to go on strike tomorrow to protest against government plans to raise the betting tax on racing. The British Horse Racing Authority warns the
[22:04]tax could cost the sport 66 million pounds annually and over 2,700 jobs. Our sports correspondent Rob Harris reports.
[22:15]>> For a government losing ground, a chancellor with little room to maneuver, the races have become a budget battleground. The sport raising the stakes over a proposed rise on betting
[22:26]taxes by going on strike calling off Wednesday's entire day of races. >> There to be no racing for a day. It's a big deal. It's almost it's like taking a Jenga block out of the pile and not
[22:37]expecting it to fall down. I mean, inevitably, if you take out the the the base, the rest crumbles. The British Horse Racing Authority claims more than 2 and a half thousand jobs are at risk
[22:47]in the first year alone if the government pursues plans to harmonize tax on gambling online into a single rate. It would see the 15% tax paid by
[22:56]book makers on racing rise to the 21% paid by online casinos and games. This is a an existential threat for the sport. Our modeling which has done been
[23:07]done independently tells us that over 5 years the the the impact the revenue impact into the sport would be circa £330 million. Why should horse racing be a special case?
[23:18]>> Race courses are often the focal point of local local towns and communities across the country as are the training facilities. The betting and gaming council has warned the strike will cause
[23:30]unnecessary disruption to punters, but the reality of the racing industry is felt by those up at dawn every day. It is unprecedented racing choosing to shut down for a day in protest. But it's
[23:42]believed it's the only way to pressure government to show how important the industry is and how costly and damaging the tax rise could be. So when the four courses where races
[23:55]were scheduled fall silent, jockeyies, trainers, and bosses will instead converge on Westminster to warn of the risks to racing if Rachel Reeves gambles with their futures to balance the books.
[24:07]>> Rob Harris, Sky News, Windsor. >> Okay, let's take a look through the papers for you this morning. We'll start with the Financial Times. It says the
[24:17]new home secretary has warned foreign counterparts that UK visas held by their citizens could be revoked if their governments don't accept the returns of
[24:27]illegal migrants. And it's the same story for the front page of the times too. There you go. Now the mirror don't be fooled by far clown
[24:37]act. The mirror says as the chancellor lifts the lid on reform's economic plans. Uh the Labour left a plotting revenge on
[24:47]Starmer as the party races to find a deputy leader who can challenge the prime minister. This is all according to the I newspaper. Meanwhile, the Guardian
[24:57]has an exclusive investigation into leaked files it's got hold of from when Boris Johnson was prime minister. Both the Guardian and Sky News have
[25:06]approached Mr. Johnson for comment, but we haven't heard back yet. Now, four in five hospitals are failing. This is according to the Daily Telegraph as the health secretary prepares to
[25:18]release performance league tables and the Express reveals the shocking toll of 500,000 sick days at tax offices and how
[25:29]much it's costing the economy. And then the Mail just 7 miles apart, but there's still a chism between the waring brothers. The Mail has the story of Prince Harry returning to the UK and the
[25:40]possibility of the brothers ending their feud. And how about the Metro? Well, they're reporting on a 135 million pound
[25:49]cocaine ship bust and say it's just the tip of the iceberg. So, a really mixed bag from the papers there. And don't forget to join me and tomorrow for our news review, delving into today's big
[26:01]stories. That's coming up for you at 6:45. Still to come on the Breakfast Show for you, do stay with us. We'll have reaction from the France to the fresh
[26:11]political crisis with the prime minister set to resign after losing a vote of no confidence. And then could Scotland maintain their
[26:20]unbeaten start in World Cup qualifying as they face Bellarus in an empty stadium in Hungary?
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[26:40]I'm Helen Smith. I'm Skye's Asia correspondent and I'm based here in Beijing. [Applause]
[26:51]>> Go ahead. Back white jacket. >> Deborah Haynes from Sky News. He called you daddy earlier. >> Did you? >> He did. He did it very affectionately. Daddy, you're my daddy. Thank you.
[27:01]>> Lester is on its knees. >> They've ripped the soul out of my factory and there's nothing left. >> It is eerily quiet. >> It's constantly on the brink of capacity.
[27:13]>> There's overcrowding. We start a new thing. >> It's rough. >> There's nothing to hide. Why aren't international journalists surrounded? >> Are you worried about escalation? >> Of course, I'm worried about escalation,
[27:24]which is why my focus is on deescalation. The region I think is on edge because they are anticipating a retaliation. Iran retaliates for the US attacks.
[27:34]>> Founding principle of the alliance that an attack on one is an attack on all. >> Could Putin attack another NATO country
[27:43]within 5 years? >> There's always more to the news than a headline. We want to discover to delve a
[27:54]little deeper to find out what's really going on. Explanation, analysis, the people at the heart of every story. I'm Neil Patterson and this is the Sky News
[28:06]Daily podcast. So, by the end, we'll hopefully all understand what's going on in the world just that little better. Available wherever you get your
[28:15]podcasts. [Applause] I'm Martha Kelner and I'm Sky US correspondent based here in Los Angeles.
[28:26]Sky News, the full story first. [Music] I'm Martin Brunt and I'm Skye's crime correspondent.
[28:36]I'm David Blevens and I'm Sky Senior Ireland correspondent. I've spent 30 years reporting the
[28:44]journey from conflict to peace. free wherever you get your news. I'm Neville Lazarus and I'm Sky reporter
[28:54]based in Delhi. Welcome back to the breakfast show. A
[29:06]quick reminder of our top stories this morning and US politicians have published a book of birthday messages sent to the convicted sex offender
[29:16]Jeffrey Epstein including a lude note allegedly sent by Donald Trump. Sakir Starmer is due to host cabinet in Downing Street for the first time this
[29:27]morning as the race to replace Angela Raina as deputy party leader gets underway. Parents in England will receive redesigned Offstead report cards from
[29:39]November. It's all part of changes to the way schools are inspected. Now, the reforms were initiated following the death of head teacher Rof Perry last year.
[29:50]Prince Harry has delivered a speech at the 20th anniversary of the World Child Awards in London. Duke of Sussex has returned to the UK for a number of
[30:00]public engagements this week. At least six people were killed in a shooting in Jerusalem yesterday with at least 12 others injured. Well, let's
[30:10]take a look at the details. Two Palestinian government opened fire on people. According to Israeli officials, it happened at a major intersection in the north of the city where police say
[30:21]the attackers were shot dead. And footage from the scene shows people fleeing a bus stop at the intersection during the busy morning rush hour. Our Middle East correspondent, Adam Parsons,
[30:32]reports from Jerusalem. >> Rush hour in Jerusalem and the bus on the right is suddenly attacked. You can hear the shots from two gunmen.
[30:44]>> Passengers flee, some of them falling. A bullet hits the coach next to this car,
[30:54]but this man survives and takes cover. And then we see armed Israelis arriving and within moments the gunmen have both
[31:03]been shot dead. But alongside them, victims of the attack, dead, wounded, traumatized. >> Suddenly I see the terrorist along with
[31:15]another person. They started shooting with guns. They were shooting and shooting and shooting. And then he came to my direction. He tried to shoot me. I jumped into the bus inside. I crawled
[31:25]inside and hid behind a bench. The prime minister was quickly at the scene, meeting emergency responders and vowing not to be dissuaded from his
[31:35]hardline policies in Gaza and the West Bank. >> These murders, these terror attacks on all sides, in all fronts, do not weaken us. They make us more determined to
[31:46]complete the missions that we have undertaken. >> At the same time, Israeli police were flooding the town of Katana, believed to be the home of the attackers. Among
[31:56]those arrested was the father of one of the suspects. Israel's hardline minister Bengave has already said he wants all family members to be deported.
[32:06]>> Bengavir was also on the scene of this attack. He's likely to use it to renew calls for Israel to annex Gaza and most of the West Bank. Well, the debris from
[32:17]this attack is now being cleared up. It's not the first time that people have been shot at a bus stop, but this has the potential to reverberate because
[32:27]Israel at the moment is such a divided, tense society, particularly around the question of its relationship with the
[32:36]Palestinians and the response to this attack could shape Israel's policy for years to come.
[32:45]>> This is a Jewish area. Among those who came here, we found differing responses. >> I think that like we can't go into Arab villages. The Arabs are not supposed to
[32:55]get into us. Any Arab Arabs are not allowed to walk in the year. Never. And even if they want to come into work, even if they want to come up, they're not allowed to stay in Israel because Arabs are always going to want to kill Jews.
[33:06]>> We need to learn how to figure out how to end this conflict, how to live here together in peace. uh because that's the only way we're going to we're going to end up not having terrible terrible
[33:18]attacks like this. >> Jerusalem is rarely the stage for this sort of attack and that means they reverberate more when they happen here in Israel. Every action brings a
[33:30]reaction. A response to this is inevitable. >> Adam Parson, Sky News, Jerusalem. France's outgoing prime minister will
[33:42]formally tender his resignation later after losing a vote of no confidence which he called himself. France Beiru was ousted by French MPs over proposed
[33:52]spending cuts. Well, let's speak more on this with French journalist an Elizabeth Moute. Great to have you with us once again. So, President Beiru is on his way
[34:02]out at the same time the country is grappling with a debt crisis. just outline how serious a moment this is for France.
[34:12]>> This is a serious moment because uh he was the fourth prime minister in two years after uh Emanuel Mun called a snap
[34:23]election. Uh he was supposed to be a safe pair of hands. He is older than either Mun or most of his cabinet. uh he has been in French politics for almost
[34:34]50 years and still uh the the he wasn't able to sort of carry through the notion that the country really is suffering under a debt that is close to 115 of
[34:46]GDP. Uh that we cannot afford a pay as you go pension system uh which was created when eight people at work were paying for the pension of one person and
[34:57]now you have almost fewer than two to pay for that. uh most of the debt of France over 40% is and and spending of the budget is spent on pensions of
[35:08]social uh uh and social benefits uh and uh we are we are going to go the way of Greece I won't say Italy any longer
[35:17]because Italy has got wiser policies so on the one hand the prime minister was making a very good case on the other he was not making in it in a very enthusiastic way and there's also a
[35:28]feeling as in most western countries that the real concerns of citizens have not been uh considered enough by uh a government of young technocrats living
[35:39]in in a bubble in Paris. So uh the the situation is a combination of a number of things. >> Um talk to us a bit more about the debt crisis particularly for people watching
[35:49]here in the UK. Are we talking about higher taxes, fewer services and and how does this show up for ordinary families in everyday life? If we look at the
[36:00]state of the French welfare system that was created like the British one in 194546 uh we have fewer services
[36:11]uh the cost is higher uh and and the quality of of those services uh are not quite as good as they were mostly because there's too much to pay for. So
[36:22]uh the French have got much more than the British a tradition of the old benevolent state. It was really true for for for many years and there is a feeling and that's always a dangerous feeling people do not consider for
[36:33]instance the progress of medicine which means that fewer people uh few people die of cancers fewer people die of other things uh and the uh uh and the
[36:43]longevity uh has gone up but at the same time there's a feeling that what we counted on which was a system that worked is no longer the case. you have entire areas of France uh especially in
[36:54]the countryside where it's very difficult to get an appointment with a doctor uh where you have to drive 100 kilometers in order to get um uh uh treatment and all of this is something
[37:06]that has been deeply resented. We have the same problem as Britain in terms of feeling that the arrival of of people from poor countries mean uh there's too
[37:17]many people using the same services. uh and there's a feeling that there's no understanding in Paris of those things. And in terms of the debt, yes, we are
[37:26]talking about lots of more t more taxes, but France is already the OECD country that taxes the most, both businesses and citizens. So, it's much more difficult to make this accepted, especially when
[37:38]the feeling is that uh we're not getting enough for our taxes. It's really interesting you outline all of that because while this is going on, you know, France along with other NATO
[37:48]allies have promised funding for Ukraine security guarantees if and when there may be a ceasefire and a peace deal. Uh but with so much strain at home, an
[37:59]Elizabeth, uh where is the money going to come from, do you think? >> Well, first of all, France, I again like Britain, we're very similar. Uh is a member of the security council. We're
[38:10]both nuclear powers. We both have an army that has deployment capacity worldwide. And that is not supposed to change. Uh and and it's, you know, we are not talking about something that you
[38:22]can say, well, I'm not giving so much for this hospital, I'm going to give for this one. Uh we're talking about something entirely different. We're also talking about an export capacity in both country in that we produce u some of the
[38:34]most of the weapons that we use and therefore it's a bit different because we're also talking about jobs. But the idea that we can sort of decide that well we are sort of you know we're checking out uh from uh the the the most
[38:45]important uh conflict armed conflict war on the continent of Europe uh for those reasons I would imagine and you've got about half the country or a little over
[38:55]half the country still thinking it that uh that is not this is not what we should be saving on uh because if you know if the border of Russia moves from
[39:05]the border of eastern Ukraine to western Ukraine it is moving moving too later. >> Okay, we'll have to leave it there. Really interesting to get your take. And
[39:13]Elizabeth Mute, journalist in France. Okay, time now to get your latest sports. Staying connected is vital for business.
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[39:49]The club made a great pitch to me that they wanted me. They gave me a 4-year contract. Uh, all the stops were out. They made me feel really welcome. We
[40:00]arrived at the airport there in Madrid and there were 50 30 40 50 uh journalists cameras uh and we thought oh
[40:10]they come for this movie star you know suddenly we see Jesus Christ Jimmy it's for you it's always difficult losing a great player Jimmy for me was always a
[40:22]worldass striker probably not talked about as much I don't think as to some of the other other great strikers But I was fortunate enough to play with him. >> We obviously made a very good profit on him. If you just take the business
[40:34]transaction, not the football emotion. The transaction was a good deal because we bought paid him bought him for two and we sold him for 12 million pounds >> in two years. Uh got six times their
[40:45]money. I was not a big earner at the time at the club. So for them it it was a big gain. [Music]
[41:01]He's settling into his new surrounds. The player renamed Judas Floyd Money in the Bank when he was drummed out of Ellen Road, but stories of excessive demands were fictional. According to Atletico's new signing,
[41:12]>> I was supposed to stay there. Uh I was supposed to uh sign a new contract and and and and feel happy. If they can ask 12 million for a player, the rest is all
[41:24]clear. Were you asking to be the the most highly paid player in the Premiership as we're led to believe? >> No. No. Don't believe the figures at all. Don't believe the figures at all. >> He didn't want £40,000 a week.
[41:34]>> It would have been nice. But is that what you were demanding? >> That's not what I asked. Reading the text last night, that was nothing about money from his agent. Well, Jesus, lads. Honestly, if that wasn't about money, I
[41:46]don't know. Then maybe I'm getting it wrong when he sent me there. Um, a lot of you have written good articles about it and all I'd like to say is that I've I've seen quotes of 45,000. I think
[41:57]you're being modest to Jimmy on that one. Honestly, I wouldn't like to say, but you I think you've been you'd be disappointed if you're only saying that. Honestly, >> did you feel you had to speak out publicly for the club? >> Yes, you have. Because we didn't want to
[42:09]sell a top player. I had one of the best number nines that you could wish to have. It puts me under pressure. Then I've got to go out and buy and put your head on the block to buy a number nine. Did we sell a bad player? No, we sell the top player.
[42:21]>> It did disappoint me how everything went. It made me look bad in front of the the fans was not necessary. The perception that people have of me, the the difficult person, blah blah blah,
[42:32]that is never there. I would have tried to find a solution. >> What we didn't do is say was a difficult character. But what I think we alluded to his desire for more money or you know other people can put words around what
[42:44]what you attribute to people who are just desperate for cash and we couldn't afford it given we'd found him in the first place. Maybe naive on my part to believe that players wouldn't be have the head turned for cash. So yeah, it
[42:55]was difficult and I understand why Jimmy would think that we um publicly probably let him down, but you've got to manage and frankly I felt let down as well. We
[43:05]just signed him and I'd offered him 100% in pay increase, but he wanted a 300% pay increase and I couldn't afford it. >> That was for me the the the fuel, you
[43:15]know, that kept me going that somebody didn't want me and I now had in the back of my mind, I'm going to show
[43:25]you what you're missing. His form has been nothing short of sensational, fueling.
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[47:02]welcome back. Our news review very shortly, but first just a quick uh teaser of what's coming up in the show later on with Wilfred Frost. So at 7:15 he'll be speaking to the health secretary Wes Streeting as a contest
[47:14]with the deputy leader of the Labour party that was really heating up. So it's great to have Wes in. At 7:45 we'll speak to the British Thor Rod Egley who became the first person to swim 1,000
[47:25]miles around Iceland yesterday. Puts us to shame here on the Breakfast Show. And then at 9:30, we'll be speaking to 14-year-old Alysia Pelicira, who won the
[47:35]World Child Award last night, and it was all attended by Prince Harry, wasn't it? So, a great lineup to come. Do stay with us. Before all of that, we're going to look through the papers with Tamara
[47:46]Cohen, our political correspondent here at Sky News. Very good morning, Tamara. >> Morning, Leah. Uh let's kick off, shall we, with the front page of the Eye uh Labour lefty plot that's going on,
[47:57]they're reporting uh to revenge Star. Uh tell us a bit about this story. >> That's right. Yes, they're saying that they're plotting revenge on Kier Starmmer. This is the hoting up deputy
[48:07]leadership contest to replace um Angela Raina as the deputy leader, but it's a very odd one because they've already got a deputy prime minister, so that won't be their job. So, we've got the left of
[48:17]the party uh wanting to build their own candidate, but it's a high bar. They need to get 80 supporters in parliament. So, it is likely that someone who has
[48:26]got the anointing of number 10 will um do get do well to get those signatures. So, we're looking at who that might be. Um there's a housing minister Allison McGovern. Uh the eye says she is
[48:38]believed to be number 10's preferred candidate. Uh you've also got uh Louise Haye who has actually ruled herself out though she she of the multiple phones uh and so has Jess Phillips who might
[48:49]otherwise have been a popular candidate. So this could although the nominations have to be in by Thursday night the the winner will not be announced for another six weeks. So this could well turn into
[49:00]quite a referendum on K Star Dama's leadership dominate the party's conference and whoever that person is depending on how loyal they are to number 10 they could also be a bit of a
[49:10]problem as well. M and there was lots of conversation, wasn't there, about the fact that it it has to from some sections of the party be out of London, be a woman, so be Northern. So, does
[49:21]Emily Thornbury and her post code completely rule her out? >> Well, it's interesting that you've got Kier Dharma and his new deputy PM David Lami, both London MPs. So, you had the likes of Andy Burnham, mayor of
[49:31]Manchester, saying he's on the north and we'll talk to him later. The left candidate, Bel Roberto Addi, is also a London MP and so is Emily Thornbury. So the left have united around somebody who
[49:42]is also a London MP. Um so they've decided that being in the north is is a very important thing rather than perhaps your politics. Um but that would suggest perhaps so Allison McGovern is a
[49:53]northern MP. So is the education secretary Bridget Phillipsson. Um could it be someone like that? Also Lucy Powell, another Manchester MP. Well, we'll see who the first rule of politics
[50:05]is counting. So, whoever can get that eight, whoever thinks they can get 80 because it's embarrassing to run and maybe only get 20. Whoever thinks they can get 80 will put their hat in the rings. We'll see how many people that ends up being.
[50:16]>> I find it so fascinating because why it's important for viewers at home is it really then dictates the direction of the Labor Party potentially. Absolutely. Um, let's move on to the Times. Sorry, I'm obsessing over that leadership
[50:27]contest. Um, deputy leader, uh, workers took a fortnight off six last year. Sick last year. That's on the front page of the Times because the number of sick sick days taken by British workers
[50:38]apparently that's risen to the highest level in 51 years. >> But it's also doubled since the pandemic. So before the pandemic, people took on average a week off sick every
[50:50]year. You know, you get a bad flu in the winter time, a week off. >> Now it's two weeks. And this is really difficult because the government are
[51:00]trying to get people who um who are on long-term sick uh back to work. Uh but you have people who are taking a lot of sick days and of course it puts strain on businesses and strain on colleagues.
[51:11]But also businesses are trying to work out what's the best way to you know motivate people to come back after sick leave whether that is extra sick pay uh whatever. So this is yeah this is a post-pandemic
[51:22]uh big issue. >> Interesting isn't it? Uh let's move on. Is it still the times? Are we still on the times? It's a >> still on the times. >> A visa threat to states not tackling um
[51:33]back taking back migrants. So this is a big issue, isn't it? Currently, immigration. >> So yes, we've got our new home secretary, Shabbana Mammud, and she said that one of the things she's going to do
[51:44]is if countries don't want to take back their citizens, then there will be a kind of retaliation that they won't get visas to come to the UK. Now the nationalities that are mentioned in this
[51:55]article, India, Pakistan, Nigerians, they will face visa restrictions if their countries refuse or delay efforts to take back illegal migrants. But the reason I picked this out, which is it's
[52:06]widely reported in all the papers, is the Times say immigration experts said this was likely to antagonize countries that Britain relies on for trade and economic growth. So India who've just
[52:17]done a trade deal with uh which UK officials say is one of the uh countries that that tends to refuse to take back its citizens who have overstayed on their visas and the migration observatory who study these trends say
[52:28]you can very well imagine they would take a dim view of bargaining tactics that involve these kinds of threats especially India who we have a long relationship with. So uh will this work or is it all going to end up in
[52:40]international politics? Yeah, immigration experts saying actually all of this could potentially antagonize countries that are involved in this um this thing. Let's move on to the Daily
[52:51]Telegraph. Um and we're moving away from politics and maybe it's the politics around revealing Banksy. It's a story um that could finally unmask um the artist.
[53:02]This is all after, many people may have seen this yesterday. Um, a new artwork depicting a judge, as you can see, attacking a protester on the floor. Well, the Metropolitan Police, they're
[53:13]saying they're investigating the graffiti. Um, and they >> people think it's Palestine Action. He doesn't actually use their name or anything like that, but it's sort of widely considered to be the the
[53:25]representing the Palestine Action ban, which he opposes. And um the the group which is def which is organized protest in support of Palestine action claims it
[53:36]is that. And so now um the suggestion is that it could if this ends up uh in court um Banksy after 25 years uh being
[53:47]anonymous could have to reveal his or I guess her name. Um, and uh, so yes, I mean there's been so many times I think over the last few years or I think we we
[53:57]said Banksy maybe unveiled. I was wondering with this story how much CCTV footage is around the Royal Courts of Justice where it was sprayed on the wall there. So they might have evidence that
[54:08]they can use. Right, we're going to go to the Sun double page spread. Prince Harry, he's in the UK at the moment for
[54:16]various um uh charity events and also his brother has not been too far away. >> So, so near yet so far apart. Um the it
[54:26]was the third anniversary of the late Queen's death. Prince Harry is in the UK and he went to pay his respect at St. George's Chapel in Windsor. Meanwhile,
[54:37]his aranged brother is 15 minutes away with his wife, the Princess of Wales. uh talking to the women's institute of which the queen was a member. Uh they then uh so they spoke to women's
[54:48]institute they then had a tea party with them. Meanwhile, Prince Harry left and went to speak to the wellchild charity where he joked about having difficult siblings. So it's like this uh kind of
[54:59]south of England running around avoiding each other uh because these two brothers do do not seem to be remotely interested in healing. there. >> Prince Harry has spoken about, hasn't
[55:10]he, very recently, uh, with an interview with the BBC talking about how he would really like to to get back around the table with his family for the feud that's there to >> there's
[55:21]perhaps even meeting his father, uh, the king on this trip, but um, I think the feud between the brothers sounds much more entrenched. >> Yeah, the king of course in Scotland at the moment. Um, we shall see what
[55:33]happens uh, with that. Um, I don't know if we can squeeze in one more story. How long do we have left? 40 seconds. The Great North Run. There was a medal.
[55:43]There was a run on Sunday. 60,000 people took part in the 13.1 mile run. >> Something odd was on the medal, >> but it was, if you look closely, it
[55:53]didn't have the correct river on the medal. mislabeled map of Sunderland and the river where >> but it was checked by over 300 people
[56:05]before it went to be made and it was one participant the day after who said hang on a second this isn't correct >> think they would have picked that one up
[56:15]but uh yes a bit embarrassing for the great Northrun who have admitted that they have messed it up >> we have run out of time see you at Hear
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[1:00:16]Good morning. It's 7:00 on today's show. Democrats released Jeffrey Epstein's birthday letter, and it doesn't look good for Donald Trump. >> Plus, nominations open this morning in Labour's deputy leadership contest, and
[1:00:27]left-wingers are already accusing the leadership of the mother of all stitchups. >> And what does it take to swim around Iceland, the country, not the supermarket? Uh, stay tuned to find out.
[1:00:38]>> It's Tuesday, the 9th of September. Your headlines. The White House denies allegations that President Trump drew a picture of a naked woman for convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's birthday.
[1:00:49]The new Labour cabinet meets in Down Street for the first time this morning as battle lines are drawn over the deputy leadership contest. Schools are to get new look report cards
[1:01:00]despite criticism from some teachers. And Prince Harry talks to children in an awards ceremony about the challenges of having a big brother.
[1:01:09][Music] Very good morning. The Democrats have released a lewd birthday letter sent to
[1:01:19]Jeffrey Epstein that appears to be signed by Donald Trump. The White House has rejected the claims, calling the card to the convicted sex offender a fake. Part of the document also included messages from the UK's ambassador to
[1:01:31]Washington, Peter Mandlesson. Our US correspondent, James Matthews, has this report. This is the British angle on a scandal. Lord Mandolson, the UK ambassador who
[1:01:42]counted Jeffrey Epstein as his best pal. These are pictures from a newly released birthday book. Mandolson was among friends who celebrated Epstein's 50th
[1:01:53]birthday with the message, "We love you." There was the picture of a tropical island. And there was the message about glorious homes he likes to
[1:02:02]share with his friends. brackets. Yum, yum. In May of this year, Sky News asked Lord Mandlesson about Epstein and a stay in his New York flat after he'd been
[1:02:13]convicted. >> My knowledge of him is something uh that I regret. I wish I'd never met him in the first place. >> Why did you have an association with him? Because he was in jail at the time.
[1:02:24]>> Why Why did many people uh meet him? He was a prolific uh networker and I wish I'd never met him in the first place. Britain's man in Washington isn't the only name that jumps out from these
[1:02:36]files. Donald Trump's White House has again denied he had any part in this. A handdrawn figure of a woman signed Donald beneath the waist. And the line,
[1:02:46]"A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday and may every day be another wonderful secret." There are numerous contributors to these documents. It's a
[1:02:56]disturbing read given Epstein's history. This appears to be a note from former President Bill Clinton. He speaks of Epstein's childlike curiosity and drive
[1:03:06]to make a difference. The name Trump features on an outsized check held by Epstein. It's signed DJ Trump. >> There's no suggestion either president did anything improper.
[1:03:18]>> But for all names in the book compiled by Epste's co-conspirator, Gillain Maxwell, it makes for uncomfortable reading. James Matthews, Sky News in
[1:03:29]Washington. >> Now, the new Labour cabinet meets in Downing Street for the first time this morning as battle lines are drawn over the deputy leadership contests. Nominations open today and tomorrow's
[1:03:40]here to break us all down for us tomorrow. I mean, firstly, just the sort of moon music in the new cabinet. It's a big reset meant to be all positive. Is it likely that will carry through to
[1:03:49]those cabinet ministers overall? I think we'll see all the excited new cabinet ministers uh who have changed departments or are new in their jobs filing into Downing Street today. Of course, the coming weeks and months will
[1:04:01]tell whether they're able to deliver uh where the fir in the first year in office. I think um you know insiders would concede. Labour have not really managed to deliver on what they wanted
[1:04:11]to. Um the post of deputy leader is an interesting one. It was one of the jobs vocated by Angela Raina, but the job of deputy prime minister has already been filled by David Lammy who is not running
[1:04:22]to be deputy leader. So there's a question about what this person is going to end up doing. And I think the contest um is going to be one that number 10 will be hoping they can have some control over. This is how it's going to
[1:04:34]work. So um nominations open today. Tomorrow we'll see a first round of hustings with the contenders making their pitches uh to MPs. The deadline to
[1:04:46]cast nominations is 5:00 PM Thursday. So, it's not very far off. And a candidate needs the support of 80 of their colleagues in parliament to get on the ballot. And then they have until uh
[1:04:57]the conference on the September the 27th to get the second bit which is local parties and unions and then it all ends at the end of October. So once we have uh the candidates, it will drag on for
[1:05:07]quite a long time. And it's end of October is a vote of who >> is going to be the the ballot the ballot opens of um labor members. Yes. Once
[1:05:18]people have hit that bar. Now the left of the party are concerned that they're about themselves having a say and uh one leading figure on the left is Richard
[1:05:27]Bergen and he says the leadership of the party has tried to rush the MP's nomination process through in just a couple of days which I think makes it the mother of all stitchups. Now the
[1:05:38]candidate he's likely to be backing is Bel Ribero Addi the first person to say confirm that they're running. Now she is a South London MP. She's very much on the left of the party. I think she will
[1:05:50]struggle to get 80 colleagues to support her. Um so I think we're looking at who the candidates might be that do have a wider backing. Um there is suggestion
[1:06:01]that number 10 might support someone like the housing minister Allison McGovern who is a northern uh MP. Bit of contrast to Kier Darmmer and David Lammy who are both London. There is talk about the education secretary Bridget
[1:06:12]Phillipsson who is a Sunderland MP. If number 10 say to all the MPs who have kind of government jobs who are ministers or on the payroll in some way this is our person then they are very
[1:06:23]likely to get over 80. So I think the the the question now is how many people actually hit that first bar which is very high. Is it just two? Is it just
[1:06:34]one? Uh you've got figures like Emily Thornbury who are also mulling a run. She would be not antagonistic to the leadership but perfectly happy to criticize the direction lightly.
[1:06:45]>> When we raise this question, is it a stitch up or not? I guess we'll know on Thursday if only one candidate has made it onto the ballot. That that would unequivocally, I think, be a be a stitch
[1:06:57]up. If there is at least two and they come from different wings of the party and then there is a battle to come, then it's I guess a harder accusation to make. And and when we say that you need
[1:07:07]80 MPs to nominate you to start it, that that's based on a percentage >> of of the MPs they've got, which is a lot of MPs, and that hasn't changed that percentage. >> Well, this was all in the new rules in
[1:07:18]2021 because under, you know, old they changed the rules for electing the leader and deputy leader because of perceived problems with the election of Jeremy Corbyn without support of very
[1:07:27]many of his colleagues. So this is a high bar and it's a particularly high bar because Labour have a landslide majority. So I think if only one candidate emerged, it could be a sign uh
[1:07:38]that all of the other uh people who wanted to throw their hats in the ring simply couldn't command the support of enough of their colleagues. So uh it could well be that that bar is too high simply because Labor had so many people
[1:07:49]in parliament. >> But as a percentage, it's not that high. >> It's 20%. >> Exactly. So I mean it one would think that's a in most sort of contests in life, it's a sort of reasonable bar. The
[1:08:00]left will no doubt say it is a stitch up if their candidate I think their candidate Bel River Roberto will struggle to get 80, especially if someone else who was kind of leaning
[1:08:10]left also uh decides to run. So I think we're at the point now where people you know of course the first rule in politics is learning how to count. So people will have to see whether they think they're realistically going to get
[1:08:21]there. I think we're already seeing some of the people who are tipped for it. Louise Hey for example saying oh I think I just want to be a backbencher. you know, some of these people are are canvasing their colleagues at the moment. There's a lot of intense conversations going on. Am I going to
[1:08:33]make it? Am I going to embarrass myself? Um, and then the people who think that they can go the distance. But I think what will be really interesting is who which is the minister or senior person who's lost the leadership uh who number
[1:08:44]10 sort of would want to have the job and then of course what the job is because they're not going to be the deputy prime minister. So are they going to be a full-time campaigner? Uh so
[1:08:54]exactly how that works. this hasn't been the case for a very long time that it's been done separately from the leadership and when Labour are already in government >> the uh learning how to count James Cleverly probably wishes he remembered
[1:09:06]that lesson when he was running for leadership when he was running for leadership um we'll be talking to West treating the health secretary shortly about all of this and also to Andy Burnham at 5 8 as well so well worth
[1:09:17]staying tuned for that by the way also worth mentioning that we'll be hosting the immigration debate in Birmingham it's coming up this Wednesday 10th of September. It's going to be hosted by
[1:09:27]Sky Trevor Phillips and representatives of the main parties will attend. Scan the QR code on your screen now if you'd like to be in the audience to ask a live question. Uh that's the immigration debate this Wednesday. Right, time for
[1:09:38]all of today's other stories now. Le's got those for us. >> Thank you, Bred. There's been an explosion on board a boat attempting to carry aid to Gaza. Organizers say the Gaza flatillaa say it was struck by a
[1:09:49]drone off the coast of Tunisia. All six passengers and crew are safe. Tunisia's National Guard say the reports of a drone are untrue.
[1:10:00]France's prime minister will hand in his government's resignation to President Macarron today after a lastm minute attempt to save his failed job. The country's national assembly ousted
[1:10:10]France Beiru with an overwhelming 364 to 194 in a confidence vote yesterday afternoon and the result was expected.
[1:10:20]The PM had received huge backlash to his proposed budget which aimed to curb France's public spending. Elsewhere, Nepal has lifted a ban on
[1:10:30]social media platforms including Facebook and YouTube after protests that led to 19 people being killed. At least 150 people were injured as protesters
[1:10:41]clashed with the police outside Parliament buildings in Catmandeue. Now the government say the ban was in place because social media companies failed to register their companies officially in
[1:10:52]the country. And the real life succession battle for Rbert Murdoch's media empire has come to an end. The 94year-old's eldest son Lacklam will take full control of the
[1:11:04]company which owns Fox News and the Wall Street Journal and the Times. His siblings, James, Elizabeth, and Prudence, will give up their voting rights in return for a billion dollar
[1:11:15]payout. Our parents in England will receive redesigned Offstead report cards from November as part of changes to the way
[1:11:24]schools are inspected. And uh joined us now on this. And this was all sparked, wasn't it? From the death of uh ROF Parry, who basically her school was
[1:11:35]rated outstanding, downgraded, wasn't it, to inadequate. And it sparked a huge debate around this. Absolutely. And these changes have come around as a result, direct result of those calls
[1:11:46]from the sector because the pressures that school leaders and head teachers feel during the inspection process was highlighted during that tragic death. And obviously it's been a very turbulent time since then for Offstead to have to
[1:11:57]think about what's the best way forward in terms of how can we ensure that there's a rigorous inspection process for schools but at the same time not put undue pressure and workload on school
[1:12:08]leaders and schools up and down the country. And what we've seen in this new changed framework that's being being rolled out from November is that the
[1:12:18]parent voice and parental engagement has been really really increased. And so Martin Oliver is very keen to make sure that parental engagement, parental perspective was factored in. And what
[1:12:29]we've seen though from the sector is that they feel as though they have not been haven't been listened to in the same way. And we've seen some backlash from unions and various bodies in the
[1:12:40]education sector who are saying actually we'd really like Bridget Phillipsson to intervene here and delay the roll out as because it's supposed to be in November. and they feel it's far too soon and they
[1:12:51]don't agree with the changes that have been made with regards to the one-word judgments being scrapped and being replaced with two words. So, they feel as though the the tweaks that have been made are not really the kind of changes
[1:13:03]that they really wanted to see where they wanted an overhaul of how schools were inspected and supported during that process. >> Anjam, thank you. We're going to be speaking, aren't we, a bit later on 7:45
[1:13:14]to Julia Waters, Ruth's sister. >> And Jim, thank you. Now, the horse racing industry is set to go on strike tomorrow to protest against government proposals to raise the betting tax on
[1:13:24]racing. The British Horse Racing Authority warns the tax could cost the sport 66 million pounds annually and over 2,700 jobs. Our sports correspondent Rob Harris has this
[1:13:34]report. >> For a government losing ground, a chancellor with little room to maneuver, the races have become a budget battleground. The sport raising the
[1:13:45]stakes over a proposed rise on betting taxes by going on strike, calling off Wednesday's entire day of races. >> There to be no racing for a day, it's a big deal. It's almost like taking a
[1:13:57]Jenga block out of the pile and not expecting it to fall down. I mean, inevitably, if you take out the the the base, the rest crumbles. The British Horse Racing Authority claims more than 2 and a half thousand jobs are at risk
[1:14:08]in the first year alone if the government pursues plans to harmonize tax on gambling online into a single rate. It would see the 15% tax paid by
[1:14:18]book makers on racing rise to the 21% paid by online casinos and games. This is a an existential threat for the sport. Our modeling which has done been
[1:14:28]done independently tells us that over 5 years the the the impact the revenue impact into the sport would be circa £330 million. Why should horse racing be a special case?
[1:14:40]>> Race courses are often the focal point of local local towns and communities across the country as are the training facilities. The betting and gaming council has warned the strike will cause
[1:14:51]unnecessary disruption to punters, but the reality of the racing industry is felt by those up at dawn every day. It is unprecedented. Racing choosing to shut down for a day in protest. But it's
[1:15:03]believed it's the only way to pressure government to show off how important the industry is and how costly and damaging the tax rise could be. So when the four courses or races were
[1:15:17]scheduled fall silent, jockeyies, trainers, and bosses will instead converge on Westminster to warn of the risks to racing if Rachel Reeves gamles with their futures to balance the books.
[1:15:28]>> Rob Harris, Sky News, Windsor. >> Prince Harry has spoken to children at an awards ceremony about the challenges of having a big brother. He was at the wellchild awards in London last night,
[1:15:39]which celebrates the achievements of seriously ill children. Well, Emma's here with more on this and uh there's a little comment that came out about about Brotherhood.
[1:15:49]>> Yeah. So, he uh Prince Harry flew over yesterday for all these charity engagements. WellChild, a really important uh charity for him. He's been patron for 17 years. And it was when he
[1:15:59]was chatting to some of these inspirational uh young people that there was this little quip. He asked a teenager about the relationship he had
[1:16:09]with his uh younger brother. um and said, "Does he drive you mad?" Uh uh the young man said, "No." Uh but Harry responded with a little quip, "Huh? You
[1:16:19]know what, siblings?" Uh which really gives us a hint at uh the continuing friction between the pair. Uh
[1:16:30]>> well, I mean, that type of comment any person with siblings could make. >> They most certainly >> the the and I mention can think of that almost on a daily basis. Um but but the
[1:16:40]sad the de I I I just kind of find it all very very heartbreaking this this it continues in such a divided way for so long and particularly when they know
[1:16:51]what it's like to not have a family member around how they can't sort of repair things and I I just every single time it comes up I find it heartbreaking.
[1:17:00]>> Yeah. And uh certainly Harry recently hinted that he would be open to reconciliation, but yesterday he went to
[1:17:10]uh St. George's Chapel at Windsor. Uh he laid some flowers at the resting place of his grandmother, Queen Elizabeth, while at the same time a few miles away, Prince William is meeting with members
[1:17:21]of the women's institute. The Queen clearly uh strong connections with the WI. There is nothing that we know about in the diary for the pair of them to meet. And then of course there's the
[1:17:33]relationship with their father. So King Charles is at Balmor Moral in Scotland at the moment. It may be that he is going to fly back to London. There is
[1:17:43]still time for there to be a meeting. There are further uh charitable engagements. So we know that Harry is going to be making a sizable donation to children in need. That's today in
[1:17:54]Nottingham. tomorrow he's going to the center for blast injury studies here in the capital. Um so still time. Uh but certainly the hint was that Harry at
[1:18:05]least was up for reconciliation. >> Yeah, it's it's um also really good to see him back doing stuff. I mean again there's always all sorts of criticism
[1:18:14]and uh and questions about it, but he he he's very good at it and and those pictures with him with the kids in particular, he's he's so at ease doing that sort of thing. And actually he said
[1:18:25]that this event, this awards ceremony, he described it as the highlight of his year. So I think that really is an indication of of you know this the strong link, the strong bond he has with this charity that he's been patron for
[1:18:36]17 years. >> Emma, great stuff. Thanks so much for that. Let's have a quick look at the front pages this morning before we speak to the government. Uh just seven miles apart, it's that story that we were just talking about with uh with Emma talking
[1:18:48]about the distance between Harry and William. 7 milesi a closer distance than the emotional separation uh between them and four and five hospitals are failing according to the Daily Telegraph as the
[1:19:00]health secretary prepares to release uh performance league tables. It's that story that we're going to pick up on first of all uh now with the health secretary where streeting who seamlessly switched in for Emma there. Morning
[1:19:11]health secretary good to see you. >> Good morning. >> Tell us about how these new league tables are going to arise for um for for NHS trusts. So today we're publishing a set of league tables that uh use a whole
[1:19:23]range of data points to rank uh NHS providers looking at the sorts of data that we often discuss on this program on things like ambulance response times or
[1:19:33]waiting times for planned treatment right through to some of the data points that the public would not necessarily have so much access to things like the NHS staff survey results or what the
[1:19:42]care quality commission's data shows and together we look at those factors the financial leadership and performance and we've ranked those hospital trusts and
[1:19:53]the reason we're doing this is firstly to make sure that patients are better informed and better to able to exercise choice but also so that in you know consistent with the approach I've taken since I became health secretary last
[1:20:05]year making sure that we have uh honesty transparency and honesty about the variation in performance I know there are some people that would rather we took the ostrich attitude buried our
[1:20:17]head in the stand the or the you know spare the blushes approach of um of not um setting out these data points but I genuinely think that the public deserve
[1:20:27]to be well informed and if we're not honest about the challenge and the range of challenges then we're not going to be able to fix them. >> What happens if you're in the top category? Do you get bonuses? Yeah.
[1:20:38]>> What happens if you're in the lowest category? >> Yes. We're looking at things like capital incentives uh to to incentivize um high performance. Uh and then in the lowest that's pay >> uh those would be things like you know
[1:20:49]investment in those trusts to invest in things like new technology equipment or bricks and mortar. >> Uh and then for the poorest performing trusts there'll be a range of approaches. Uh where you've got poor
[1:21:01]performing leaders in poor performing trusts uh then they will not receive their pay up lifts and so there'll be effectively a financial sanction. uh where you've we've sent some of our best
[1:21:12]performing leaders into the worst performing trust, which is what we want to do. Um we're obviously not going to penalize the very people we've sent in to help us sort out some intract intractable problems. Um so there's some
[1:21:23]complexity that sits beneath this, but I I do think that um this is the right approach. I've seen criticism from some of the think tanks uh this morning saying, "Oh, well, you know, is this
[1:21:33]necessarily helpful? What do the public really care about?" I just think this is elitist nonsense. Actually, the very same people who are out saying this are the are precisely the researchers who
[1:21:44]have access to these data sets and data points who do understand the variation in performance and think it's you know all right for them to understand it as researchers in London but it's not um you it's not okay to share that
[1:21:55]information with the public. >> And obviously you've published these these rankings this morning. I mean, if you look at a handful of the the very top performing trusts and a handful of the very worst, is it very simple to say
[1:22:07]we can learn the lessons of what these guys are doing well and apply it to here or or is there just a lot of local nuance to to those that are struggling
[1:22:16]to perform? I I think a bit of both. So, um certainly if you take uh North Umbrea, which is pretty much top of the table, Morfield's Eye Hospital is top of the table as a specialist hospital. North Umbrea is the top performing
[1:22:28]non-speist hospital. Uh, one of the things that makes them um exceptional is they've integrated their accident emergency services with local community services to help patients get the right care in the right place at the right
[1:22:40]time. And in doing so, they've protected the elective activity, all the planned care, the operations people have booked in for so that emergency care doesn't come at the expense of planned care.
[1:22:51]They're so well performing. That's why I nicked one of their former chief executives to come and run the whole NHS, Jim Mackey. So we will be taking the best of the NHS to the rest. Now of course there are some parts of the
[1:23:01]country where they have been consistently bottom of the table and you have to look at issues of geography, demography. So there is that level of complexity and as a government we will
[1:23:12]take that kind of thoughtful approach. Most NHS leaders, most NHS staff and patients will welcome this approach. I have I have to say in the last year I've not found that I've been battling NHS
[1:23:23]managers. Actually, a lot of them share this government's determination. Vast majority of them share this government's determination to get the NHS back to where it always should have been. Sounds very interesting. I look forward to
[1:23:34]hearing um what the results are in time. Um what's your message today to newly qualified doctors, the the most junior doctors who are considering strike action?
[1:23:43]>> Uh well, firstly, uh I absolutely agree with them about the the challenge of doctor unemployment, and we're determined to um deal with that challenge. We've got a new workforce
[1:23:54]plan uh in development. I recognize the problem they're up against. Uh and against that backdrop, I mean, I must say it's similar to the wider dispute we've had with resident doctors on um
[1:24:06]paying conditions. I'd say look, you've got a government that fundamentally agrees with the problem and wants to work with you to solve it. Strike should always be the last resort. Industrial action should always be the last resort.
[1:24:16]if you've got an intrigent employer or an intrigent government that isn't prepared to listen and work with you to sort the problem out. That's not the case here. So, I think we've got the message and I think it's totally
[1:24:27]legitimate of uh doctors to send us the message in the way that they have um through this indicative result, but there's no need for strike action. In fact, going back to our previous conversation about NHS performance,
[1:24:39]strikes only sets back, makes things worse for patients, and it provides harder conditions for for doctors and other NHS staff to work in. >> I saw a story in the Times today about the number of sick days taken by British
[1:24:50]workers is at the highest level for 15 years. As a nation, do we need to toughen up a little bit? I I think this is a really serious challenge and I
[1:25:01]think the health of the nation and the health of the economy are inextricably linked and part of my job as the health secretary is to get people back to health because in many of those cases
[1:25:12]people will also be going back to work. There are all sorts of other challenges. We see um rising levels of mental ill health and mental illness being a reason for people being off work. Now, there'll
[1:25:24]often be good reasons if people are in crisis not to go to work that day, but what we're also finding is that lots of people um who are out of work because of their mental ill health end up becoming
[1:25:35]trapped outside of work, which ironically reinforces mental ill health and makes it worse. And that's why we've been looking at some of the best practice at
[1:25:46]hospitals like the Mortsley and South London who've done a brilliant job of combining um mental health recovery and treatment with employment support to
[1:25:56]help people coach people support people back to work. That's the kind of approach the effective approach we want to take. uh and I'll be working very closely with Pat McFaden as the new working pension secretary to tackle this
[1:26:07]problem of ill health and the health of our nation impacting on the health of our economy. >> Let's touch on the deputy leadership uh race in your party. Obviously, some people coming out say it's a stitch up
[1:26:18]because of the uh timeline. >> Do you accept that if there aren't at least two candidates come Friday morning that it will have been a stitch up? >> I think there will be two candidates um
[1:26:28]at least by the end of the week. I think we've got some fantastic people putting themselves forward. There is a tight timeline. There always is a tight timeline when a vacancy occurs when we
[1:26:38]are in government and um with you know respect to all of my colleagues and um lab putting themselves forward and Labour party members who will be voting
[1:26:49]um it is not the most important thing going on in the country today and it won't be the most important thing going on in the country in the coming months and we are the party of government now. That's got to be our first focus, our
[1:26:59]first priority. Um, tackling the big issues that that people want us to and elected us to tackle. Whether that's the cost of living and the pain people are feeling their pockets, the state of the
[1:27:09]NHS or insecurity at our borders and on our streets. Those are our priorities. And the deputy leadership contest, while important for the Labor Party, mustn't and won't distract the Labor government
[1:27:20]from the important work that people sent us here to do. So, so do you think that there's no need therefore for there to be a candidate who is also a government minister? >> I don't think that's a precondition. I don't think they need to be. And I think
[1:27:32]there are I look at the some of the names that are currently circulating and people who are dipping their toes in the water and testing support among colleagues. We've got some brilliant ministers who are thinking of going for it and we've got some brilliant
[1:27:43]backbenches who are thinking of going for it. I think the important thing is who's going to be our campaigner chief? Who's going to be the person that helps us uh win those elections in Scotland,
[1:27:53]Wales, and across England next May? Um who's going to help broaden the appeal of the um government? Those are the essential promises for a deputy leader. >> Who's your favorite pick?
[1:28:04]>> Uh I'm I'm I'm keeping my keeping my powder dry at the moment. Um I think there are some a range of good candidates. I want to see the stall they set out before I'll decide who I'm supporting.
[1:28:14]>> Um final question. And there's been a another release of documents relating to Jeffrey Epsteines coming from Democrats in in Congress and some of them have included letters that appear to have
[1:28:25]been sent to Jeffrey Epstein by Peter Mandlesson. Is is it a problem that he's continued to be linked to Jeffrey Epstein whilst having such an important
[1:28:35]role? Well, I think um our ambassador has made it very clear that he deeply regrets ever having been introduced to Epstein and frankly given what we all
[1:28:46]now know about the way he conducted himself and um you know the appalling um testimony um we've heard from Epstein's victims who would want to
[1:28:57]be associated with him frankly. So it doesn't uh lead to a change in in in ambassador or any consideration of that. >> No, I don't think we should regard
[1:29:07]everyone as guilty by association. Uh I think that the important thing is um Epstein's victims
[1:29:16]receive um the justice now and the platform now to tell their stories to receive the hearing and the the justice
[1:29:28]that comes from transparency um and being now able to speak out in a way that um sadly they weren't able to do while Epstein was was
[1:29:39]And um it's really important that victims are believed, that they're given the space to set out their experiences
[1:29:48]uh and that you know the justice that was not applied to Epstein in life can at least um tarnish his name in death.
[1:29:59]>> West treating, thanks for joining us this morning. Good to see you. We're going to take a break here on the breakfast show where when we come back, the British Thor will speak to Ross Edgely, the first person to swim a
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[1:34:19]Sakist Dharma is due to host his new cabinet in Downing Street for the first time this morning as the race to replace Angela Raina as deputy party leader gets underway. Health Secretary Wed Streing
[1:34:31]told this program that the new deputy leader didn't have to be a cabinet minister but should be the Labour Party's campaigner in chief. Parents in England will receive
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[1:35:26]Right, let's uh talk again about the deputy leadership contest which uh of course is uh ongoing uh in the Labour party with nominations needing to be in by Thursday. Here's what the health
[1:35:38]secretary Wes Streeting told us about that race moments ago. >> Um at least by the end of the week, I think we've got some fantastic people
[1:35:49]putting themselves forward. There is a tight timeline. There always is a tight timeline when a vacancy occurs when we are in government and um with you know
[1:35:58]respect to all of my colleagues and um lab putting themselves forward and Labour party members who will be voting um it is not the most important thing going on in the country today and it
[1:36:09]won't be the most important thing going on in the country in the coming months and we are the party of government now. That's got to be our first focus, our first priority. um tackling the big issues that that people want us to and
[1:36:21]elected us to tackle. Whether that's the cost of living and the pain people are feeling their pockets, the state of the NHS or insecurity at our borders and on our streets. Those are our priorities and the deputy leadership contest while
[1:36:32]important for the Labor Party mustn't and won't distract the Labor government from the important work that people sent us here to do. >> So, so do you think that there's no need therefore for there to be a candidate
[1:36:43]who is also a government minister? >> I don't think that's a precondition. I don't think they need to be and I think there are I look at the some of the names that are currently circulating and people who are dipping their toes in the
[1:36:54]water and testing support among colleagues. We got some brilliant ministers who are thinking of going for it and we've got some brilliant backbenches who are thinking of going for it. I think the important thing is who's going to be our campaigner chief?
[1:37:05]Who's going to be the person that helps us uh win those elections in Scotland, Wales and across England next May? um who's going to help broaden the appeal
[1:37:15]of the um government. Those are the essential promises for a deputy leader. >> Who's your favorite bit? >> Uh I'm I'm I'm keeping my keeping my powder dry at the moment. Um I think there are some a range of good
[1:37:27]candidates. I want to see the stall they set out before I'll decide who I'm sporting. >> Yeah. Really interesting. Is it keeping his powder dry wedge streeting there? >> He that little smile. I thought he was going to reveal it for a moment.
[1:37:38]>> No. Well, I did. I was on tender hooks. But it it is so interesting, isn't it, what he was saying about landing that message for Labour and that reset from Karma reset number two for the party as
[1:37:49]a whole and whether this, you know, deputy leader contest and the person that's ultimately picked will be able to do that. >> Yeah. I mean it's a convenient argument of course for him to say the focus is on
[1:37:59]delivering on the government in case either people say it's a stitch up because one of their candidates gets it very easily or if it's someone that's going to be a thorn in Star's side they
[1:38:09]can use that argument to say this is a distraction we're focused on on the government hand which by the way we we get a big focus on today because it's of course the first new cabinet meeting and tomorrow's made her way to Downing
[1:38:21]Street for all of those arrivals. I am interested in seeing the tone. I mean obviously everyone's going to turn up and walk down very smiling happy they tomorrow shout questions they won't respond but you know some have left the
[1:38:32]cabinet but either way others in there have gone up and down and you know Darren Jones is a big winner Shabbana Mammud is is a big winner no doubt a spring in their step as they arrive you
[1:38:41]know David Lambie bit of a demotion gone to justice got this title of deputy PM does does it really count um others that >> people thought were for the chop uh and
[1:38:51]have have we'll get that get it later and have and and have remained. Now, Bridget Phillips is a really interesting one. Education secretary is now being rumored to be runner for deputy leader.
[1:39:03]So, kind of if she did get it, you'd think she's very well protected. >> Well, either way, Westminster loves elections and this is going to be a tight one, but the ultimate decision won't be announced for another party
[1:39:14]conference. Yeah. Six weeks. So, we we'll get probably down to two, I would imagine, this week. I doubt it'll be down to to three. Right. Let's move on and talk about uh the more complicated political situation in France where the
[1:39:26]prime minister will formally tender his resignation later today after losing a vote of confidence yesterday. President McCron must now choose his fifth prime minister in just two years. Our Europe correspondent Alistister Bungle has this
[1:39:37]report. >> France's prime minister arrived in the National Assembly to hear a fate that he already knew. The country was glued to the latest political turmoil in Paris as
[1:39:48]Francois Beeru made a final pitch to stay in office and push through economic reforms that he believes are long overdue. You have the power to overthrow the
[1:40:02]government, but you do not have the power to erase reality. Reality will remain inexraable. Spending will continue to rise, and the weight of debt, already intolerable, will be
[1:40:12]heavier and more expensive. He failed resoundingly for 194 against 364. The prime minister
[1:40:29]needs to deliver his resignation from government to the president of the republic. >> Well, the outcome was never in doubt. It was always a question of how big's defeat was going to be. The result is
[1:40:40]just in and he's lost by a majority of 170 MPs. In the end, it wasn't even close.
[1:40:50]Emanuel Macron is now left with no good choices. He must find a new prime minister, his fifth in just over two years, and his own future is also now in
[1:40:59]doubt. One way to achieve stability is to have fresh assembly elections or fresh presidential elections and to try and break the deadlock. Would you not agree with that?
[1:41:10]>> Or or fresh new prime minister. It's it's a >> be the fifth in two years, fifth in almost two years. I mean, it has five
[1:41:19]times before. if this new prime minister try to um to to work with a larger
[1:41:29]part of the parliament. >> The farright politician who could be France's next president told me that new elections are now the only way to break the deadlock.
[1:41:40]>> Will you vote against today? >> We have no confidence in Mr. Bor's ability to address the country's problems. We gave him his chance. But from the moment any government, no
[1:41:51]matter who is leading it, chooses to continue Emanuel Mong's policies, despite the French having rejected those policies in the most recent European and legislative elections, then confidence
[1:42:02]is simply not possible. >> Franis Beu will hand in his resignation, but temporarily remain in office whilst Macron tries to find his replacement. He
[1:42:12]will want to move fast. Strikes and protests are planned for the coming weeks and France's economic crisis will only worsen. Alistister Bungle, Sky News
[1:42:22]in Paris. Now he's no stranger to audacious expeditions. And now the man labeled as the British Thor has completed his latest challenge, a record-breaking
[1:42:32]1,000mi swim around Iceland. >> Yeah. Ross Edgley from Cheshire spent four months experiencing towering waves, freezing temperatures. You can just
[1:42:43]about see him there in that last pick. Uh inquisitive local wildlife while circumnavigating the Nordic island. He officially crossed the finish line in Reichovich yesterday.
[1:42:54]>> We'd like to say he joins us now. Ross, very good morning to you. Enormous enormous congratulations. I mean tell us the feeling as you finish them. What
[1:43:06]what unbelievable joy but also I imagine relief. >> Absolutely. Yeah. This this was a long time coming as well, battling Arctic storms, um jellyfish, um and yeah, it
[1:43:17]just it felt so good just to to st stand on firm land. Um have a Viking beer as well. They delivered that out of a horn and did a Viking ceremony to welcome you in as well. Um it's been amazing. A
[1:43:28]strange way to spend a summer, but an amazing one as well. >> Yeah, a really good way to spend the summer. But Ross, what on earth made you do it?
[1:43:38]I asked myself the same question so many times when I was going around. I I think records are nice and obviously to be the first person to do that. That's great. But really the whole thing we were teamed up with some scientists as well.
[1:43:50]They said, "Look, if you have someone crazy enough to try to swim around, that allows us this really unique opportunity to actually track Edna samples. So environmental DNA samples that basically look at what's been in the water. Is it
[1:44:01]a Greenland shark? Is it seals? Is it a basking shark?" So what we're left with is this map of biod diversity around the entire coast of Iceland in a level of detail we've never quite seen before. Um
[1:44:13]so the swim of the record was nice but the ocean constellation and the message behind it was far much more you know sort of powerful and important. >> I I note you chose the summer uh period
[1:44:23]of time to to do it. Um but no doubt it was still un unbelievably what what sort of temperatures was the water? Yeah, it gets really strange, you know, because because going around we crossed over the
[1:44:35]Arctic Circle, went over the top and obviously that's cold. You get the wind and the waves coming from the Arctic, but it's actually swimming past the frozen glaciers and and the rivers that are frozen. So when they start melting,
[1:44:46]it's, you know, 2, three°, it's just above freezing. Um, so it was really weird. The East Coast actually got a lot colder because of these huge frozen rivers that were just melting and coming
[1:44:56]into my swimming pool for the day. Um, so yeah, you know, battling hypothermia and jellyfish were probably the two biggest enemies of this swim.
[1:45:06]>> And Ross, tell us about some of the wildlife that you came face to face with on this swim. Anything really quite terrifying? >> You know, you know, I'm so glad you
[1:45:16]asked because I think a lot of people um were saying, you know, is it going to be orcas? Are you scared? Are you worried? Um, many orcers came over. It was really interesting. They kind of came over, looked at me, and they were like, you're not a you're not a seal. uh you're too
[1:45:28]small to be a whale. What are you? And they they just kind of but we went on our on our way. But the best hands down the best whole experience signal fluid us over the top of Iceland. Um locals said, "Look, we we need help. There are
[1:45:40]30 pilot whales that have been beached. Um this never happens." And then by hand we had to push pull by rope. We got all 30 pilot whales back out to sea. Not one
[1:45:51]of them died. And there was just like I said 50 people from all around, you know, the world. A lot of people didn't speak English, didn't speak Icelandic, but we all just had this common goal and we managed to get them out there. So,
[1:46:02]the swim was amazing, but the stories along the way as well were just incredible. >> Ross, thanks so much for joining us. Much appreciated. Congrats again. >> Thank you so much, guys. Thank Thank you.
[1:46:14]>> Um, good to good to have him on. We'll maybe speak to him about his next uh his next challenge when it when we find out about it. But we have some breaking news to bring you. Uh we mentioned her name just moments ago when we discussing about the Labour deputy leadership for
[1:46:25]the party race and Bridget Philipsson has just announced that she is running for deputy leader of uh the Labor Party. She's saying she's promising to unite the party and deliver for working
[1:46:36]people. She says I'm putting myself forward for the deputy leadership of the Labor Party to unite our great party and deliver for working people. I'm proud workingclass woman from the northeast. I've come from a single parent family on
[1:46:47]a tough council street all the way to the cabinet determined to deliver better life chances for young people growing up in our country. It's a longish
[1:46:56]statement. Uh and she does uh conclude uh by saying with me as deputy leader we will beat them across the country and unite to deliver the opportunity that
[1:47:06]working uh people across this great country uh deserve. working them referring a bit above to Farage and
[1:47:15]reform and other uh opponents that Labor Party faces. So, Bridget Phillipsson has put herself forward to be the leader, deputy leader of the Labor Party. We'll have more on that with Tamara from
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[1:50:44]raft of changes to the way it inspects schools this November, including additional monitoring focusing on the quality of education and the care schools provide. However, the reforms
[1:50:55]have been called an over complicated mishmash by Professor Julia Waters, the sister of Ruth Perry, who took her own life following an Offstead inspection
[1:51:05]which ranked her school as inadequate. We're pleased to say we're joined by Professor Julia Waters now. Um, Julia, good morning to you. Thanks for joining us on breakfast. Julia, can you hear us?
[1:51:22]>> Yes, I can hear you. >> Great to have you with us. Morning to you. Um, I just wonder if we start with ROF because you would have seen her
[1:51:32]unraveling during the time that Offset uh were inspecting her school and the emotional toll that it took. What was
[1:51:40]she going through? >> She felt responsible for what had happened to her school. She
[1:51:51]felt a sense of intense shame. She was absolutely terrified
[1:52:00]that she might lose her job. She was terrified that she couldn't show her face in the local community
[1:52:10]and she felt completely trapped. Um, she knew, her staff knew, her governors knew, the local authority knew that that
[1:52:22]judgment was unfair, was disproportionate. But there was no way there still is no
[1:52:30]way for her to challenge that. Um, and this is really what I'm worried about with the new new system that's being um
[1:52:41]proposed that those life-threatening risks identified in the inquest into my sister's death are still very very much present.
[1:52:53]Because the new ranking you think is too similar to to the previous system. >> Yes, the new ranking is pretty much the same, isn't it? Let's get a thesaurus
[1:53:03]out and change the words. Stick back in the satisfactory um judgment but call it expected standard. And to add insult to
[1:53:13]injury, put color coding um in it, which draws attention to any perceived failings. There's also, and this is for Bridget Phillipsson to address rather
[1:53:24]than Offstead Strictly, there are also very much high stakes consequences of a poor judgment. Um, head teachers will
[1:53:34]still fear that they might lose their job. Um, and they have no redress. Do do you still need to have some level
[1:53:47]of ranking um in order for people to know the good practices and the less good practices and and schools to improve
[1:53:56]their standards over time? the parliamentary inquiry into Offstead's work with schools, a very rigorous
[1:54:06]crossparty inquiry into Offstead's work with schools, recommended that the government
[1:54:15]investigate, look into other school accountability systems in high performing countries that do not put the kind of level of absolutely intolerable
[1:54:26]pressure. literally in intolerable pressure on school leaders and teachers. And Offstead and the government have chosen
[1:54:37]to ignore that advice and to plow ahead with what is really just com cosmetic changes to an already to the existing system that has been
[1:54:48]proven to pose a threat to life. They have not taken the warnings of the coroner at my sister's inquest seriously. They have not listened to
[1:54:59]parliament. They have not listened to the vast majority of the teaching profession. And they have certainly not listened to me and my family. Um so
[1:55:10]whether there's a need for rankings, I don't believe there is a need for rankings. Of course, there is a need for
[1:55:19]parents to have a reliable sense of what their local school is like. I have never argued.
[1:55:29]>> No sensible person would argue against accountability and inspection can play a role in that. But it has to be an accountability system that does not put
[1:55:41]the well-being and potentially lives of hardworking teachers and school leaders at risk. That is not in the interests of
[1:55:51]children and their parents. >> Professor Waters, thanks so much for joining us. >> Thank you. >> Let's get quickly out to tomorrow. We've
[1:56:02]got about a minute left on the program. Uh on that breaking news tomorrow, the education secretary is running for the deputy leadership. >> Yes, Bridget Philipsson has just announced she's running. She's also
[1:56:13]going to be addressing the TU conference this afternoon. Uh she says she's a proud workingclass woman. She's a Sunderland MP. Uh she grew up in a single parent household, has risen to be
[1:56:24]education secretary, and she says she's the right person to take the fight to Nigel Farage. And it looks as if as a member of the cabinet and supporter of Kier Starma who survived the reshuffle,
[1:56:35]she is very very likely to get the number of nominations that will be needed. >> Great stuff. Tomorrow we'll be back out with Tamara in Downing Street for all the very latest Westminster news after
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[2:00:16]Good morning. It's 8:00 on today's show. Nominations open in Labour Party's uh deputy leadership contest and we've got breaking news. The education secretary, Bridget Phillips, has announced that she's standing.
[2:00:27]>> Plus, Democrats released Jeffrey Epstein's birthday letter and it doesn't look good for Donald Trump. It's Tuesday, September the 9th. Your headlines. >> Karma's new cabinet will be meeting
[2:00:38]shortly at number 10 behind me as the battle lines are drawn in the contest to be Labour's deputy leader. >> New cabinet ministers will arrive. >> In the last few minutes, education secretary Bridget Phillipsson has
[2:00:49]announced that she's running on a ticket to unite the party. But leftwingers are already accusing the leadership of the mother of all stitchups.
[2:01:00]Also ahead, the White House denies allegations that President Trump drew a picture of a naked woman for convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's birthday. Schools are to get new look report cards
[2:01:12]despite criticism from some some teachers. And Prince Harry talks to children at an awards ceremony about the challenges of having a big brother.
[2:01:21][Music] >> Very good morning to you. The new Labor cabinet meets in Downing Street for the
[2:01:32]first time this morning as battle lines are drawn over the deputy leadership contest. Nominations opened today and in the last hour, Education Secretary Bridget Phillips announced that she'll be running for the position promising to
[2:01:44]unite the party. I'm joined by Tamara who's there in Downing Street. And tomorrow, it it changes I guess the question that you can shout to the
[2:01:53]cabinet ministers as they arrive in terms of are you going to back Bridget Phillips. I guess the assumption is they certainly will. >> That very much is the assumption. K Starmmer's new cabinet, just appointed
[2:02:05]on Friday, will be having their first meeting today. And he will tell them that they're here because they are the right people to deliver the government's number one mission, which is growth, and
[2:02:16]that they are all patriots working to deliver for working people. Now, one person around that cabinet table, who some had expected might be let go in the reshuffle is Bridget Phillipsson, the
[2:02:28]education secretary, who was just announced in the last few minutes that she is going to be running to be the party's deputy leader. That's one of the jobs vacated by Angela Raina, not deputy
[2:02:39]prime minister, that's David Lammy, but this is an elected role within the Labour Party. And in order to get on the ballot by Thursday afternoon, you have
[2:02:49]to get 80 nominations uh from MP colleagues. That's a very high bar. Now, we know that the left of the party critical of Kharma have fielded a
[2:02:59]candidate that is Bel Ribero Addi. She's a London MP and I think it's be quite a struggle for her to get 80 nominations. Bridget Phillipsson, the education
[2:03:09]secretary, is the cabinet candidate now and she has put out a statement uh saying this. She says that she is a northern workingclass woman. She is a
[2:03:20]Sunderland MP. She believes she can unite the party and take the fight to reform. She says she's shown that she can beat Nigel Farage's party in the
[2:03:31]Northeast. And she says, "I'm ready for it. I've proven I can do it." and she can beat reform while staying true to the Labour party's values she says of equality, fairness and social justice.
[2:03:42]Now this suggests that if uh the government are supporting her to be deputy leader uh that they can probably mobilize everyone who's a minister or on
[2:03:53]the government payroll and loyal MPs to support her and she looks almost certain to be one of the candidates. I think the question now is whether there's going to be more than one candidate who can hit
[2:04:04]that bar. We know other people are considering it in the party. Emily Thornbury may be one of them, of course, chairing the foreign affairs committee. There are other figures in the party who
[2:04:14]are assessing uh their options, but she now looks like uh the one to beat. Uh there's a question of course about what role that will now be. Uh but the final
[2:04:24]decision after the nominations are in will be made uh by Labour party members towards the end of October. So it opens the door to quite a long discussion about the direction of Kier Starma's
[2:04:35]Labour party and where they've gone wrong in the past year >> tomorrow. Great stuff as always. Thanks very much for that. Let's get reaction now from the mayor of Greater Manchester, Andy Burnham, who joins me
[2:04:46]in studio. Very good morning to you. >> Good morning. >> Thanks for joining us. I mean, good candidate, Bridget Phillips. >> There's lots of good candidates coming forward. I'm pleased to see it because there needs to be a debate not about the
[2:04:56]the government and everything it's doing because I don't think that would be right. You know, running commentary on the new ministerial team and I I wish them all well and here to support them. I think the debate should go in this
[2:05:07]contest towards how the Labour party is being run, how parliament is being is being run. I don't think uh that MPs should be uh treated in the way that
[2:05:18]they have been in in recent times. cuz I was in the uh the Blair and Brown governments and it wasn't done like that then. Uh MPs more ability to speak out
[2:05:27]without facing the loss of the whip and and and all of the other things that we've seen. >> So So give me that you're talking specifically about this first year or so of the the new Labor government. >> Yeah. Yeah, I think we need to listen to
[2:05:38]our MPs more and respect them more because they have sounded the alarm over winter fuel uh and they were right to do so over disability benefits and they were right to do so because it's clear
[2:05:49]the party changed its position. And I just think you need that that culture in a Labor government where people are able to speak out. Sometimes when you're a minister and I've been there, you're in the department, you got the civil
[2:06:00]servant saying everything to you. When you go over to the House of Commons for a vote, people say, "You know what? I'm not sure you've got this right." Uh and that's what you really need because you know the MPs are on the ground in their
[2:06:11]constituencies. They feel these things and you know they they often are your your best guide when you're in a in a government department. This kind of approach of you know removing the whip uh at the first offense and sort of
[2:06:22]ostracizing people. I I I don't recognize it from my time uh in government with the Labor Party uh in power. I think you need all of the Labor family involved and particularly when we look at the the country right now and
[2:06:34]the challenges that we're facing. You want, you know, everyone involved, everybody pulling together, even at times if there's discordant voices saying, you know what, think again about this. >> And and I mean, obviously, some people
[2:06:46]have suggested that it's important that the deputy leader is from a different region, not London, or also potentially a woman. Um, and obviously Bridget
[2:06:56]Phillips would check those boxes, but does she not qualify in your eyes because she's a government minister? >> Uh, everyone has a role to play here. Everyone's got a voice in this in this
[2:07:06]contest, but I think it needs to be people who are going to be prepared to speak out independently about some of the challenges that I've just mentioned. I want to see this Labor government
[2:07:16]succeed. I wish the new cabinet and the ministerial team well. We're all here to help. But it's really important at this point that we get the culture inside parliament and inside the wider party right as well because I think there are
[2:07:28]lots of concerns amongst Labour Party members about the way that constituencies are being treated at times. You know it's it's too factional and it needs to be more pluralistic, more inclusive.
[2:07:40]>> So someone to speak out independently implies a backbencher. Who who is who is your preferred candidate? Well, I you know mentioned Lucy Powell, who I think has got all of the experience, but there
[2:07:51]are others potentially coming forward as as well, you know, so I think we need to see what the the list the short list looks like. Parliament is going to decide that and the PLP. So, you know,
[2:08:02]they're closer to it than me these days. You know, I'm I I'm I'm in Greater Manchester. I don't kind of live it in the way that they do. So, let's see what the PL kind of says in terms of who they think should be on the short list and then I think, you know, everyone will be
[2:08:14]able to make their choice. But it is I I guess implied by what you're saying critical in your eyes that come Friday morning there is at least one backbencher facing off against the cabinet minister. I think it's really
[2:08:25]important to have, you know, independent voices in this debate and particularly from the north and obviously Lucy is a strong voice from the north. Always had a, you know, good degree of independence about what she does because if you look
[2:08:35]in the news today and I did want to talk about this, you know, we need people to speak up for us and I'm a bit worried about the number of ministers from the Northwest particularly that have left the government. We've got Reform UK this
[2:08:47]morning uh pledging to scrap the Liverpool Manchester railway line that we've worked so hard uh to to move to move forward. You know, it just says to
[2:08:57]me that, you know, the leadership of reform is like the ex leadership of the Tory party. You know, they're they're the London establishment. Uh Mr. Farage and Mr. Ty, they haven't had a lifetime
[2:09:08]of using the railways in the north of England like we have. Um because if they had they wouldn't be proposing a secondass railway for the north of England in perpetuity. That's what
[2:09:18]they're doing. They're proposing to bake in the north south divide in perpetuity. We've got much higher ambitions for the north and that's why I want to see a deputy lead of the Labor Party that will
[2:09:28]call them right out. It's actually unbelievable. They're saying this. They pose as friends of the North. They are anything but. Um, obviously Bridget Phillips in her statement specifically
[2:09:39]cited reform and Farage and and beating them in in her backyard. More broadly, what does the Labor government need to
[2:09:48]do more of to quell the rising pole numbers of of reform? I >> I would do more of what I just said to you. I don't think these people are
[2:09:58]friends of the north of not just the but it's not just the north is all I'm saying. Yeah. And you know the the parts of the Midlands would feel the same as as you I'm representing the
[2:10:09]north. That's my job. But the Midlands would feel the same. The Southwest and East Anglia would feel the same. You know, they they they are the London establishment and the person who has written this report on rail this morning
[2:10:21]was in number 10 when the Conservatives were in power. They're doing the things that the Conservatives did to the north. Uh and they're just they're just repeating it. So you call that out. They are no friends. Reform UK are no friends
[2:10:32]of the North in my in my view. They have low ambitions. They want us to have a secondass railway. We won't accept it. And it's this is now kind of starting to flush out what they're all about. But they were the cheerleaders for
[2:10:43]privatization and deregulation in the 1980s. These people that's left us with high water bills, high energy bills, unaffordable rail fars. You know, that that has been them through their career.
[2:10:54]And what I would say to my party is don't lean in their direction. Don't pander to what they're what they're saying. Lean into our values. unite people, you know, on the progressive side of politics who who actually, you
[2:11:05]know, want to see that challenge being made. Um, that's what I would like to hear from the candidates for the deputy leadership that going forward, we will be bolder, you know, we'll be more
[2:11:14]inclusive uh and we take them head on. >> What what about on I mean in terms of the recent reshuffle on policy towards immigration and and the assumption is
[2:11:24]that Shabbana Mammud is going to take a much harder line on that than Avette Cooper did. Is that a mistake? >> I I've got huge respect for Shabbana. I've worked with her over over many
[2:11:36]years. And what what I would say is having done that job myself. I worked as an immigration minister in the Blair government. You you've not got to go out there and sort of grandstand as you know
[2:11:47]as the Tories did and and reform do. Just get the system working properly. It was allowed to descend into absolute chaos. I I was responsible in the Blair government for making agreements about
[2:11:58]returns with with other countries doing the hard yards. That's what you've got to do. The the thing that kind of worries people is when they don't see the system under under control. Get it
[2:12:08]under under control. And Shabbana has proven herself as somebody who who knows the detail, gets stuck into the detail. Uh and I think she'll do a really good job. >> Is it out of control at the moment?
[2:12:18]30,000 uh crossings so far this year. Well, I when I looked at the dying days of the Conservative government, I actually couldn't believe what they were doing. They just it was like they had given up and it did feel chaotic and
[2:12:30]when it comes to the immigration system to allow a sense of chaos is very dangerous. They almost created the chaos and then campaigned used it to campaign as though you know it to to make it look
[2:12:40]as though they were the ones to fix it. Well, sorry, but you know that that's why this government has been really on the back foot because they left a mess behind the Conservatives. But it's about
[2:12:51]restoring order to the system. I think slowly but surely you can see those return agreements getting put in place. Uh you can see the numbers of returns increasing. Uh they are beginning to
[2:13:02]bring a sense of order to it. >> Do you regret not being able to run for the deputy leadership yourself? >> Uh no, not particularly. I've got what I consider to be the best uh job in
[2:13:14]politics, which is mayor of Greater Manchester. You know, we are a city region that for the last decade has been growing faster than the UK economy. You know, you go to our city now, you see it, you feel what's happening there, the
[2:13:25]energy that that we have. It's it's brilliant to be there. And and that's why, you know, it's kind of for me so depressing to hear the sort of Westminster establishment, Mr. Farage and Mr. Ty coming along this morning
[2:13:36]saying, "Oh, well, you know what? We'll just pull the plug on on on the rail infrastructure that the Northwest needs." I don't I don't think people down here really kind of believe in the north in the way that in the way that we
[2:13:46]do. It's kind of why I left this world. Uh down here I I kind of made the case for the north here was banging my head against a brick wall and today's move from a reform UK shows that it's still
[2:13:56]you know those those biases and prejudices against the north are still are still very much there in the way they the way they all think. So to me the job I've been doing kind of fulfills
[2:14:06]why I came into politics to close the north south divide and because greater man is growing faster than the UK economy that is actually now happening. We are closing the north south divide and then you get reform UK popping up uh
[2:14:18]kind of trying to throw all of that in that progress into reverse. It's depressing but we will fight them all the way with higher ambitions for the north. >> Andy Bern, good to see you this morning. Thanks for stopping by. >> Thank you very much. Uh, now the
[2:14:28]Democrats have released a lewd birthday letter sent to Jeffrey Epstein that appears to be signed by Donald Trump. The White House has rejected the claims, calling the card to convicted sex offender a fake. Part of the document
[2:14:39]also include messages from the UK's ambassador to Washington, Peter Mandlesson. Our US correspondent, James Matthews, has more. >> This is the British angle on a scandal.
[2:14:50]Lord Mandlesson, the UK ambassador, who counted Jeffrey Epstein as his best pal. These are pictures from a newly released birthday book. Mandolson was among
[2:15:01]friends who celebrated Epstein's 50th birthday with the message, "We love you." There was the picture of a tropical island. And there was the message about glorious homes he likes to
[2:15:13]share with his friends, brackets, yum, yum. >> In May of this year, Sky News asked Lord Mandlesson about Epstein and a stay in his New York flat after he'd been
[2:15:24]convicted. My knowledge of him is something uh that I regret. I wish I'd never met him in the first place. >> Why did you have an association with him? Because he was in jail at the time.
[2:15:35]>> Why Why did many people uh meet him? He was a prolific uh networker and I wish I'd never met him in the first place. >> Britain's man in Washington isn't the only name that jumps out from these
[2:15:46]files. Donald Trump's White House has again denied he had any part in this. A handdrawn figure of a woman signed Donald beneath the waist and the line,
[2:15:57]"A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday and may every day be another wonderful secret." There are numerous contributors to these documents. It's a
[2:16:07]disturbing read given Epstein's history. This appears to be a note from former President Bill Clinton. He speaks of Epstein's childlike curiosity and drive
[2:16:17]to make a difference. The name Trump features on an outsized check held by Epstein. It's signed DJ Trump. >> There's no suggestion either president did anything improper.
[2:16:29]>> But for all names in the book compiled by Epstein's co-conspirator, Gillian Maxwell, it makes for uncomfortable reading. James Matthews, Sky News in
[2:16:39]Washington. and tune in at 6 because we'll bring you a live news conference at the White House where Donald Trump's press secretary Caroline Levit will be
[2:16:49]speaking uh 6:00 pm. Uh time to get you up to speed though now on all the others other top stories. >> Thank you, Wilfred. Parents in England will receive redesigned Offstead report
[2:16:59]cards from November. It's all part of changes to the way schools are inspected. The reforms were initiated following a difficult period for Offstead after the death of headteer ROF
[2:17:09]Perry last year. Miss Perry took her own life after her reading primary school was downgraded from outstanding to inadequate. Teaching unions have criticized the new system, saying it
[2:17:21]puts even more pressure on teachers. There's been an explosion on board a boat attempting to carry aid to Gaza.
[2:17:32]Organizers of the Gaza Flatilla say it was struck by a drone off the coast of Tunisia. All six passengers and crew are safe. Gunia's National Guard says the
[2:17:42]reports of a drone attack are untrue. And France's prime minister will hand in his resignation to Macaron today after a lastm minute attempt to save his failed
[2:17:53]job. The country's national assembly ousted Francois Beiru with an overwhelming 364 to 194 in a confidence vote yesterday
[2:18:04]afternoon. Now this result was expected. Mr. of Beirut had received huge backlash to his proposed budget which aimed to curb France's public spending and the real life succession battle for
[2:18:19]Rert Murdoch's media empire has come to an end. The 94 year old's eldest son Luckland will take full control of the company which owns Fox News, the Wall Street Journal and the Times. Meanwhile,
[2:18:31]his siblings James, Elizabeth, and Prudence will give up their voting rights in return for a billion dollar payout. Now, Kevin Boed is expected to challenge
[2:18:42]Labor on their welfare cuts during a speech today. The Tory leader will also claim that Labor pushing Britain closer to a bond crisis and that they need to be willing to work together in order to greater plan to cut welfare spending.
[2:18:53]Let's talk about it all. Joined now by Helen Weightley, the shadow work and pensions secretary. A very good morning to you. >> Good morning. >> Thanks. Uh, thanks for joining. So, so what exactly are you as a party outlining today? >> Well, what we're doing today is a
[2:19:05]proposal because of the serious situation that the economy is in and because the Labor government has brought the country's economy to the brink. Borrowing is up, but also borrowing
[2:19:15]costs up at a 27year high. Unemployment has been going up month. They already put taxes up and it looks like taxes will go up again in the autumn in the
[2:19:25]budget. It's a very serious situation. It's not just economists saying that. It's also everybody I speak to, whether it's business leaders, it's literally people coming up to me in the street telling me how worried they are about
[2:19:35]the state of our economy. And one thing the government has got to do is get spending under control and start the country living within its means. And the place to start is the welfare budget.
[2:19:47]With sickness benefits going up to around 100 billion by the end of this decade, Kama has to get that under control. Now, he tried to do that before the summer recess, but he couldn't get
[2:19:57]savings past his backbenches. In fact, he u-turned what was meant to be a savings plan turned into spending more money. So, I've been doing the work as shadow secretary of state on what he can
[2:20:08]do to make savings. and Keb Maiden has made an offer to the prime minister, to the chancellor that we will sit down with them and we will work with them on a savings plan to get welfare spending
[2:20:19]under control and to start showing that the country can reduce the amount that we spend and get the economy back on track. I I can understand um a lot of that, but but the framing of suggesting
[2:20:30]that Kembbe not wants to with with a constructive tone sit down to to work with the government on welfare reform doesn't really fly because you said he
[2:20:40]couldn't get welfare reform past his backbenches. You could say he couldn't get it past parliament and and the conservatives could have supported his attempts and it would have got through, but you didn't. Well, we offered to work
[2:20:52]with them back then and they didn't take us up on our offer. Then he tried to get it through past his back benches and in fact it was clear that he couldn't and we saw this that dramatic moment quite
[2:21:02]unprecedented in the chamber of parliament when a minister literally stood up in the middle of somebody else speaking and did a Uturn and and abandoned the cuts that they were trying
[2:21:13]to achieve the savings that they were trying to make. What was clear is he couldn't. We've had this whole reset and the reshuffle and a new secretary of state for work and pensions, but it's still the same backbenches and no sign
[2:21:24]that they're going to want to back savings. That's why we're offering to work with >> all of that is true and you know it was a crazy day in parliament that day. No doubt about it. But uh you you say you
[2:21:35]offered to work with them. Obviously you voted against them and you you could have embraced what they put in front of you. So what we voted against was because they pulled the
[2:21:45]legislation apart and actually it turned into from being a 5 billion savings proposal to being a 300 million spending. >> Two weeks prior to that, a week prior to that, the your party was very clear they
[2:21:57]weren't going to support the the plan that that Labour put forward. And there is a point here that that is, you know, maybe you would have wanted their welfare reform to go further. Maybe you want would have wanted it to to change
[2:22:08]around the edges. But you're in opposition and you did have the chance to support a bill in the general area of welfare reform that would have reduced spending and you didn't. So, so all I'm
[2:22:19]saying is today to frame it as we're the gracious ones willing to work with the government feels a bit rich. >> So, we made an offer to them and as it happens the plans they put forward
[2:22:30]though they were going to save money were not a good way of going about it. But we still we offered to work with them to bring down the welfare bill. As I said at the time, they didn't take us up on it. Now, one of the problems that
[2:22:40]Labour's got is they didn't make a plan when they were in opposition about what they were going to do about welfare. They came in and they did not have a plan for making savings. I've been doing the work as shadow secretary of state on
[2:22:52]what they should be doing, the things that they should be doing. So, firstly, for instance, they should be stopping the misuse of the benefit system. Things like these claims for common mental health health problems like anxiety and
[2:23:01]ADHD, that's got to stop. They've got to stop the abuse of the welfare system. They need to bring back the face-to-face assessment. Stop this abuse of the motability scheme where people are getting free cars for things like ADHD
[2:23:12]and tennis elbow. They've got to make sure that it's the people who really need and deserve benefits are the ones who get them. Not for instance foreign nationals coming here to claim sickness benefits. I've set out those are some of
[2:23:23]the things that they need to do. They didn't have a plan. We do. We will work with them so they can put some of these things into practice. Get welfare spending under control. demonstrate not at least to the markets that this
[2:23:34]government can actually make savings that could help boost confidence in our country's economy and that would help us achieve uh the growth that so badly the country needs. As I said, everybody I
[2:23:45]speak to is distraught about the state of the economy. >> Just a final question this and we we'll we'll file this clip and we might play it back to you in in in in weeks or months to come, but if Pat McFen brings forward a plan that addresses even one
[2:23:57]of those two or three areas that you that you outlined, will you support it? So I we have said we will sit down with them and we will work out a savings plan. It's not going to be precise. I'm not going to say a blank sheet of paper.
[2:24:08]It's like whatever they say, but I said we will sit down with them and work out with them a plan that we can back to help them get savings past their backbenches and through parliament. >> Okay. Well, in opposition, it's not your
[2:24:18]uh your job to lead the framing of the legislation. So I doubt I doubt you'll get that privilege, but we shall see uh if if the offer more broadly is genuine in the weeks ahead. Helen Wley, good to see you. Thanks so much for joining us.
[2:24:30]Let's have a look now at some cabinet arrivals. We mentioned there Pat McFaden. He used to be the chancellor of Duchy of Lancaster, the new chancellor of the Dutch Lancaster, the uh new chief
[2:24:41]secretary to the prime minister and the head of the cabinet office. I think those are all his titles. Darren Jones there arriving. I think he's the first arrival for cabinet which is uh
[2:24:51]enlightening itself in terms of the new power balance within there looking chipper unsurprisingly. Lots of new titles, nice promotion for him. Uh the cabinet meeting of course will be taking
[2:25:02]place imminently. Now France's outgoing prime minister will formally tend to his resignation later today after losing a vote of confidence. President Macron must now choose his fifth prime minister in just two years. Our Europe
[2:25:12]correspondent Alistister Bungle has this report. >> France's prime minister arrived in the National Assembly to hear a fate that he already knew. The country was glued to
[2:25:23]the latest political turmoil in Paris as Francois Beiru made a final pitch to stay in office and push through economic reforms that he believes are long overdue. You have the power to overthrow the
[2:25:39]government, but you do not have the power to erase reality. Reality will remain inexurable. Spending will continue to rise and the weight of debt already intolerable will be heavier and
[2:25:50]more expensive. He failed resoundingly for 194 against 364. The prime minister
[2:26:06]needs to deliver his resignation from government to the president of the republic. >> Well, the outcome was never in doubt. It was always a question of how big's defeat was going to be. The result is
[2:26:17]just in and he's lost by a majority of 170 MPs. In the end, it wasn't even close.
[2:26:27]Emanuel Macron is now left with no good choices. He must find a new prime minister, his fifth in just over two years, and his own future is also now in doubt.
[2:26:37]>> One way to achieve stability is to have fresh assembly elections or fresh presidential elections and to try and break the deadlock. Would you not agree with that?
[2:26:47]>> Or or fresh new prime minister. It's it's a solution. >> It be the fifth in two years, fifth in almost two years. I mean, it hasn't been five times before. if this new prime
[2:26:58]minister try to um to to work with a larger part of the the parliament.
[2:27:09]>> The farright politician who could be France's next president told me that new elections are now the only way to break the deadlock. >> Will you vote against Franis Beu today?
[2:27:21]>> We have no confidence in Mr. Bahour's ability to address the country's problems. We gave him his chance. But from the moment any government, no matter who is leading it, chooses to
[2:27:30]continue Emanuel Mau's policies, despite the French having rejected those policies in the most recent European and legislative elections, then confidence
[2:27:39]is simply not possible. >> Franis Beu will hand in his resignation, but temporarily remain in office whilst Macron tries to find his replacement. He
[2:27:49]will want to move fast. Strikes and protests are planned for the coming weeks and France's economic crisis will only worsen. Alistister Bungle, Sky News in Paris.
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[2:32:09]and a lot more. But first, let's just remind you of the today's top stories. >> Yes, thank you, Wilfred. Education Secretary Bridget Phillipsson has declared she is running for deputy
[2:32:19]leader of the Labour Party. Health Secretary Wes Streeting told this program that a new deputy leader didn't have to be a cabinet minister but should be the Labour Party's campaigner in
[2:32:29]chief. We've heard from him this morning and Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham who wants someone who will speak out independently. >> I look at the some of the names that are
[2:32:39]currently circulating and people who are dipping their toes in the water and testing support among colleagues. We got some brilliant ministers who are thinking of going for it and then we've got some brilliant backbenches who are thinking of going for it. I think the
[2:32:51]important thing is who's going to be our campaigner chief? Who's going to be the person that helps us uh win those elections in Scotland, Wales, and across England next May?
[2:33:02]I think it needs to be people who are going to be prepared to speak out independently about some of the challenges that I've just mentioned. I want to see this Labor government succeed. I wish the new cab and the
[2:33:14]ministerial team well. We're all here to help. But it's really important at this point that we get the culture inside parliament and inside the wider party right as well because I think there are lots of concerns amongst Labour Party
[2:33:26]members about the way that constituencies are being treated at times. >> Well, we're joined now by a political correspondent Tamara Cohen live from Downing Street. So the education
[2:33:38]secretary Bridget Phillips puts herself in the running. What does this tell us uh tomorrow about the the direction potentially of the Labour Party? Well, I think it tells us, Leah, that
[2:33:49]number 10's preferred candidate is the education secretary, Bridget Phillipsson. Surprise in a way, survivor of Kier Star Darmmer's reshuffle of his cabinet, who will be meeting with all the new faces around the table uh for
[2:34:00]the first time this morning. She says that she is a northern workingclass woman who grew up in a single parent household. She can reach those parts of the party that perhaps Kier Starmer and
[2:34:12]David Lammy as London MPs uh cannot. and she says that this party, the Labour party is in a fight. That fight is with reform and that she can take the fight to Nigel Farage in her Sunderland
[2:34:24]constituency. Reform uh have done well in recent years and came second at last year's election. So she says sees that as the key threat for the Labor government and says she is the person uh
[2:34:35]to take it on and it is very likely uh that now no other minister will run for the deputy leadership and that if all the government ministers and loyal MPs
[2:34:46]throw their weight uh behind her, she's almost certain to get the 80 nominations that will be needed uh by Thursday afternoon. And so the question becomes
[2:34:56]who does she face if anyone as a challenger in that uh deputy leadership contest. Other candidates we know the only one is confirmed is Belle Ribero
[2:35:05]Addi. She is a L south London MP who is very much on the left of the party. Uh she may well struggle to get 80 people to nominate her. And she said that it's
[2:35:16]undemocratic to run the contest so quickly. Some on the left see it as a bit of a stitch up. We wait to see whether people more in the center of the party, the likes of Emily Thornbury, for
[2:35:27]example, who has been lightly critical of the Labour leadership and its direction, uh, will throw their hats into the ring as well. You can hear that figures like Andy Burnham, who uh think that the leadership should be doing some
[2:35:39]things differently, wants someone who could be a bit more critical. Uh but clearly Bridget Phillipsson who is in the cabinet is loyal to Kier Starmmer uh would be someone who she hopes can uh
[2:35:50]can kind of campaign very hard and rev up Labor as they come up to the next election. >> Great stuff. Thank you very much for that. We'll be back out with tomorrow throughout the morning of course as more
[2:36:01]cabinet members do arrive there in Downing Street. Now Ukraine was hit by the largest aerial bombardment since the start of the war over the weekend. In response, Donald Trump has threatened
[2:36:12]tougher sanctions on Russia. Now, talks between the US and the European Commission are underway to discuss what those restrictions might look at look like. Excuse me. Let's talk about all of that and more with the former US
[2:36:22]security adviser to Donald Trump in his first term and the decorated war hero, General HR McMaster. A very good morning to you, General. Great to have you with us. >> Hey, Wolf. Great to be with you. Thanks for having me. >> I wanted to start with a big picture
[2:36:34]question and obviously you know President Trump well. you you worked with him uh in his first administration. What is his genuine intention as it relates to Russia and Ukraine? Is it all
[2:36:46]is there a lot of method behind what sometimes looks like madness on this or or or are you worried yourself this time round versus Trump one? >> I think what he wants is good, right? He
[2:36:56]wants an end of the war on terms that you know that are favorable to the I think to the Ukrainians and the West. But what Putin has done, I think, is confused him about the best way to get
[2:37:06]there. What Putin does is he of course uses flattery. You can't go wrong there with President Trump oftentimes. But then what he'll do is he'll hold out the prospect for a really big deal on
[2:37:17]something else like reduction of nuclear arms. He'll try to expand the issue set so he can sort of put Ukraine in a box as as a country that's really not as as important or a situation that's not as
[2:37:28]important. And then what he'll do is try to create this sense of agrievement. You know, it really was NATO enlargement, right, that that put him, you know, in in a really precarious position, what he calls these root causes, you know, which
[2:37:39]are um which the root cause of course is his aggression uh against Ukraine. And then he'll sort of portray any other alternative or President Sullinsky is
[2:37:49]weak and and he thinks he can win this because he thinks that the West is weak, Europe, the United States, that we're weak, that we're decadent, that we lack the resolve, we're divided. So I don't
[2:38:01]think he's going to get what he wants. Putin is going to get what he wants from President Trump. But he strings President Trump along with these kind of false promises of a big deal and this this uh this false narrative, you know,
[2:38:12]that somehow he's the agrieved party. So, is the implication what you're saying there that President Trump has sort of fallen for it in the short term or or or do you not think that's the case? >> Well, I think he has kind of fallen for
[2:38:22]it in the short term and uh but I don't think he's he's given he has not given Putin what he wanted. Remember what what Putin wanted in Alaska, right, is he wanted President Trump to sign up for
[2:38:33]terms for a ceasefire that were unacceptable to the Ukrainians, unacceptable to European leaders, and that he would use that to drive a wedge uh between the United States and our
[2:38:43]European allies, uh, and to to divide the West further because, you know, Putin's Putin's ambitions are grand here, right? He not only wants to uh to to dominate Ukraine and have just a rump
[2:38:55]maybe Ukrainian state that he can that he can really uh uh that he can rule over even indirectly. Uh he wants to make the Black Sea a Russian lake. He wants to break NATO apart and then
[2:39:06]extend his influence further into Europe. Uh probably dominate once again, you know, the the former republics of of the Soviet Union. Uh as well as as dominate the the former states of the
[2:39:16]Warsaw Pact. So, you know, he he wants to restore the Russian Empire and he won't stop until he is stopped. >> Um, what's your sort of message to European leaders, including the prime
[2:39:28]minister here, in terms of whether they could be doing more? I I think it's fair to say that everyone has stepped up significantly here and and obviously various pledges to increase defense
[2:39:38]spending, but is there much more that could be done? And I think India is a really interesting example because we've just done a free trade deal with India and of course President Trump is is
[2:39:47]striking tariffs on Indian India because they're buying oil from Russia. So how do you see as much as we look at President Trump and worry about some of the rhetoric? Should there be more being done here?
[2:39:59]>> Well, first of all, I would say that European leaders including the prime minister uh have done a really good job in engaging President Trump. President Trump, you know, I think what he wants to achieve is is is actually positive.
[2:40:10]how he goes about it is problematic sometimes and I think that he learns from these conversations he does evolve his thinking so the engagement has been I think quite effective but in terms of what more can be done of course you know
[2:40:22]burden of responsibility sharing and defense that's in the positive column I think that's helping the transatlantic relationship and the transatlantic alliance but there's much more that can be done in two areas to sustain support
[2:40:32]for Ukraine and then also to put more pressure on Russia at a time when Putin is actually quite vulnerable I mean his economy is in is in sham gambles and I think the two main things to do are to
[2:40:43]highlight what you already have uh really highlighted is what is the international system that is allowing Putin to evade you know more severe effects of of sanctions uh including
[2:40:54]India purchasing the cheap oil but actually Europe still buying 20% of the oil that they used to buy and and energy from from Russia reducing that dramatically I think would be important
[2:41:04]secondary sanctions on those who are really foundational to to Russia being able to continue this onslaught that you mentioned at the outset against Ukraine and China is at the forefront of that.
[2:41:15]>> So there are discussions as you know going on now between European leaders and and US leaders about what are the nature of some of these secondary sanctions, financial sanctions, other
[2:41:25]sanctions that can impose costs on China for for really underwriting uh this this horrible war against Ukraine. >> Um >> one more question on this area but it links to China. To to what extent do you
[2:41:36]think President Trump's motivations to be otherwise more consilary towards Putin than perhaps the facts would suggest comes from him wanting to try and peel
[2:41:47]Russia away from China? Is is that a genuine motivation and is it a legitimate one or is it wishful thinking? >> It's a genuine motivation. It's legitimate, right? Because it of course
[2:41:58]the the geostrategists of the late 19th early 20th centuries this is McKinder and Spikeman from a British perspective said hey it would be a terrible thing if if there was a hostile power that
[2:42:09]dominated the Eurasian land mass. Britain can't stand for that. It's not good for the world. Uh so dividing them is is a positive but they're they can't be divided this moment. We saw the optics from the Shanghai Cooperation
[2:42:21]Organization meeting the virtual bricks meeting that happened yesterday. They've declared their undying love for one another. Putin and Xiinping. I think the opportunity lies in gluing them together because what we've been doing is
[2:42:33]pretending that we can separate them and it allows them to cover for one another, especially for China to cover for Russian aggression. I think you can make the argument, Wolf, that China is fighting a proxy war against Europe and
[2:42:45]the West through the Russians. And the sooner we make that connection, the more effective we can be, I think, on putting the pressure on Putin sufficient for him
[2:42:55]to conclude he can't win the war at an acceptable cost and risk. And I think that's that's the moment when you maybe do have a chance at a ceasefire that can end uh the suffering of the Ukrainian people.
[2:43:06]>> That's really interesting. Um so so harder on China as part of this and harder on Russia as opposed to trying to peel each of them away from each other, >> right? Stop pretending that they're not acting in concert. And of course they've
[2:43:16]brought into this axis of aggressors. I mean the photos, you know, from the Shanghai Cooperation Organization with Kim Jong-un, you know, and the and the uh and the Iranian delegation there. I
[2:43:27]mean, there there are maybe 30,000 more troops coming from Kore from North Korea to fight alongside uh Russians. Um, I wanted to touch on the UK military
[2:43:37]because last time you came on uh on this program, you said the UK military makes me want to cry because of your assessment of the sort of capability had slipped over the decades.
[2:43:47]>> I'm it's not been that long, a year or so since we last last spoke. Has that assessment changed or are you given a little bit of hope by small increases in defense spending, but we're only talking about,
[2:43:58]>> you know, increases of 0.2.3%. Yeah, it it is it is obviously much more positive in terms of the increase, but you know, it takes a really long time to
[2:44:09]build back the cap the capacity and the range of capabilities, the skill sets once you cut your military. I mean, it's much easier to sustain a professional. This is why it made me want to cry
[2:44:19]because and and because the British army still is extremely professional, extremely capable, but just not big enough. And in an all volunteer force, it's hard to grow that capacity back. So
[2:44:31]when when a decision point comes up again maybe a couple of decades from now after rebuilding which will be painful that capacity I think that's a really important consideration. It's easy to
[2:44:43]cut it very hard to grow it back. >> Um in terms of the president just coming back to him you said he likes praise. Um obviously you've worked closely with him and and had to work out what to say when
[2:44:53]and and in order to sort of achieve your aims in those meetings. When you look at Trump Mark II, if you look at those cabinet meetings, in fact, there was also a dinner with with tech leaders
[2:45:03]last week. I I mean, I was there for the first term that the level of praise around the table has gone up and and it's unanimous now. Does that I mean, as
[2:45:13]as a military leader who is, you know, forthright with your views and I'm sure has faced forthright views back to you, does it >> does it worry does it even sicken you to watch? What's your take on it?
[2:45:24]>> Well, well, if there's a reason why it only lasted 13 months, right? So, so you know, yeah. I mean, I I I think it's a disservice to the president to tell the president what the president wants to
[2:45:34]hear. I saw it as my job to guard President Trump's independence of judgment to get him best analysis to get him multiple options because, you know,
[2:45:44]he he's the guy got elected, right? So, he should get to make the decisions. The problem is in an environment of competitive syophy, what you get is you get people telling the boss what the
[2:45:54]boss wants to hear. So you can maybe mask some potential negative long-term costs and consequences of decisions. But also many of these people who engage in this kind of sycophancy. What they don't
[2:46:06]want is to help Donald Trump with his agenda. What they want to do is manipulate decisions consistent with their agenda. And so I tried to protect against that to put into place a
[2:46:17]process, decision-making process that got the president a a broad view of perspectives, you know, not to try to control him or manipulate his decisions, but allow him to to understand fully
[2:46:28]these complex problem sets and make sound decisions. >> Is that happening now? You worried that it's not? >> I'm worried that it's not happening. It's been widely reported, you know, and this is sort of, you know, bureaucratic politics and everything, but it seems as
[2:46:40]if some people have convinced President Trump that his own staff was the so-called deep state, you know, the the source of bureaucratic inertia. Uh, when when in fact his own staff, that's
[2:46:50]National Security Council, National Economic Council is really helpful to pulling together these options, presenting them for decision to the president. I think this is how you you one of the reasons why you've seen some
[2:47:01]of these wide swings with tariffs and and other decisions. >> General, it's always a pleasure. Thanks so much for stopping by. >> Hey Wolf, great to be with you. >> Great to see you. General HR McMaster there, former national security adviser
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[2:50:32]redesigned Offstead report cards from November. It's all part of changes to the way schools were inspected. Teaching unions have criticized the new system, saying it puts even more pressure on
[2:50:43]teachers. Now, the reforms were initiated following a difficult period for Offstead after the death of headteer Ruth Perry. Offstead Chief Inspector Sir
[2:50:53]Martin Oliver joins us in the studio today. Um, talk us through the changes this morning which will come in in November and I suppose what teachers and
[2:51:04]parents and students will notice straight away. >> Yeah, good morning. Well, the changes that I'm introducing are built upon the largest consultation that I've ever undertaken. Last year, we heard from
[2:51:15]20,000 people and this year we've heard from a large consultation and it's going to raise standards, help educational professionals in nurseries, schools, and colleges raise standards for all children, particularly the most
[2:51:25]disadvantaged and vulnerable. And parents will see a new report card which will better describe the strengths and areas for improvement for a school, but it will also give them an at a glance summary. And parents have overwhelmingly
[2:51:37]supported me in saying this is better than the system we used before. And it will be fairer fairer to teachers and head teachers like me. I'm teacher and head teacher for 30 years. Had nearly 100 offstead inspections before I took
[2:51:48]on this job. And it will be fairer to them because it will better describe those strengths and those areas of improvement better than the blunt one-word system did previously.
[2:51:58]>> But the summary is still pretty blunt, right? >> No, no, because you've got a number of areas. So don't forget offstead inspects nursery, schools and colleges. But if you take schools for example, we look at
[2:52:09]six core areas and safeguarding and we describe what's attendance and behavior like what's the curriculum and teaching, what subjects a child might study and the quality of teaching like and parents
[2:52:20]want that detailed information because it informs them. It helps them. And as leaders, I've written this very much with an idea of being a toolkit. as a head teacher, as a teacher, there was a
[2:52:31]professional standard that I qualified at and there were legal duties on me to carry out things, statutory responsibilities and my framework tests all of those. So teachers and head
[2:52:41]teachers should look at it today and think, well, that's my job he's checking. Exactly. >> So Martin, we did mention, didn't we, at the top of this conversation about the difficult period that Offstead went through?
[2:52:53]>> How will this new system take away that pressure? I'm a mom of a primary two primary school kids actually and the teachers often tell parents at the school gates that the offstead
[2:53:02]inspection process is filled with so much stress and pressure. How will this system take that away? Well, look, I can't take away all pressure from an
[2:53:11]inspection and as a headteer, I think accountability really matters because we are accountable for your two children, for over, you know, like 12 million children in the country going into
[2:53:23]school settings and nurseries and colleges and that's really important that we have standards for education because you only get one chance at childhood, but it wants to be fairer. So the methodology how we go about carrying
[2:53:34]out an inspection will be done with those teachers with those headteers and I'm relying upon all of my three decades of experience have nearly 100 inspections to think what's the best way
[2:53:44]of doing this that still will never shy away from calling out standards for children but works to be fairer with schools and the way I set out even the grading description is crystal clear so everyone knows exactly what we're
[2:53:56]looking for there's no hidden mystery to it. Um you said you consulted very very widely particularly with parents. Did you do so as well with teachers and headteers and do they embrace this change or not? >> Well, it's different. The reactions have
[2:54:08]been different from different groups. So teaching unions have been really finding it really challenging to work with me on this and I've tried my best with them before I took on this role and throughout the last 20 months. I even
[2:54:18]met them yesterday and went through all of these changes and when I describe it to them they understand it far better. And that's the difference. Offstead isn't just about what's written on the
[2:54:28]page. It's about the visit and how it feels. And I'm absolutely convinced that it will feel better. But early years providers, people there are far three times as many early years, children's,
[2:54:39]child minders, nurseries than there are schools in the country. The system leaders running early settings have overwhelmingly shown me support. The people who run colleges have overwhelmingly shown support. And I've
[2:54:49]been on lots of media this morning and my phone's flooding in with messages. head teachers of the largest groups in the country are saying this is going to be much better. So, it's a mixed reaction and it's my job now to make
[2:55:01]sure that this lands absolutely safely but still reports on behalf of parents on the quality of education for children and that is my job. This is the office for standards and that's my role.
[2:55:13]>> So, Martin, thanks for joining us. Very much appreciated. I'll I'll save you from asking the question of whether Bridget Phillips will make a good deputy leader of the Labour Party cuz uh >> well, she makes an excellent Secretary of State. >> There we go. Well, that that thank you
[2:55:24]very much for for for that answer and for all of the conversation this morning, Sir Martin, much appreciated. Let's get out to tomorrow. Tomorrow's been watching the arrivals in Downing Street for this first reshuffled cabinet
[2:55:35]meeting. And Bridget Phillips, one of the many uh whose mood you'll be looking out for. >> Yes, that's right. Karma chairs his cabinet with all these new faces around
[2:55:45]it. will tell them the top priority is growth and they need to deliver it. But he's also of course got the contest for deputy leader to worry about. We've now heard this morning that a member of his
[2:55:56]cabinet, Bridget Philipsson, the education secretary, slightly surprisingly stayed in her job on Friday. She is running. She says she is a northern workingclass woman and she
[2:56:07]can take the fight to Labour's key opponents which he said is Nigel Farage and the Reform Party. So, she says she's someone the party can unite around.
[2:56:17]>> And and how many are in so far? Everyone. >> Uh just a few. We haven't really got started yet. We've seen Darren Jones now the chief secretary to the prime
[2:56:26]minister. Uh but we haven't seen some of the key new figures like Shabbana Mammud, the new home secretary as yet. But Bridget Phillipsson now running and she looks like the one to beat almost
[2:56:37]certainly to get those 80 nominations >> tomorrow. Great stuff. Thanks so much. It's interesting that Darren Jones was the first in which is sort of telling about the new setup. We're going to take a very quick break here on the Breakfast Show. When we come back, we'll have all
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[3:00:15]Good morning. It's 9:00 on today's show. Nominations open in Labour's deputy leadership contest. And just over an hour ago, the education secretary, Bridget Phillipsson, became the first minister to announce that she's standing.
[3:00:27]>> Plus, Democrats released Jeffrey Epstein's birthday letter and it doesn't look good for Donald Trump. It's Tuesday, September the 9th. Your headlines. >> As cabinet ministers gather in number
[3:00:39]10. Behind me, battle lines are drawn in the contest to be Labour's deputy leader. >> Education Secretary Bridget Phillips announces that she's running on a ticket to unite the party. Manchester Mayor
[3:00:50]Andy Bernham tells us the party needs someone who will speak out independently. >> We need people to speak up for us and I'm a bit worried about the number of ministers from the Northwest particularly that have left the
[3:01:00]government. Also ahead, the White House denies allegations that President Trump drew a picture of a naked woman for convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's birthday.
[3:01:12]Schools are to get a new look report card despite criticism from some teachers. And Prince Harry talks to children at an awards ceremony about the challenges of
[3:01:21]having a big brother. [Music] >> Very good morning to you. Let's get back
[3:01:31]uh straight out to Downing Street where tomorrow is standing by as tomorrow we await what the first cabinet meeting of this new reshuffled era.
[3:01:42]>> That's right. K Starmmer appointed his new cabinet on Friday with some new faces and some of the same faces in different jobs and they're all going to be meeting for the first time this morning. We've seen a couple of them
[3:01:53]file in already. most notably uh Darren Jones who actually works at number 10 now as the new chief secretary to the prime minister and K star will be saying
[3:02:02]to them that the top priority for his second year is growth. They have to deliver it. Delivery is the watch word of what he calls the second phase. I
[3:02:13]think many in number 10 would admit the first phase didn't quite go to plan, but he wants them to deliver. And he says make people feel that more of their hard-earned cash is in their pocket. He
[3:02:24]says they are patriots. Last night at an internal Labour Party meeting, he called Nigel Farage a plastic patriot. He says they are patriots. They want the best for for our country and he says that now
[3:02:35]it's up to them to deliver it. >> Of course, the deputy leadership race for the party is ongoing as well. And uh we've been speaking this morning uh to the health secretary West Streeting and
[3:02:46]the mayor of Manchester uh Andy Burn. I look at the some of the names that are currently circulating and people who are dipping their toes in the water and
[3:02:58]testing support among colleagues. We got some brilliant ministers who are thinking of going for it and we've got some brilliant backbenches who are thinking of going for it. I think the important thing is who's going to be our campaigner chief? who's going to be the
[3:03:09]person that helps us uh win those elections in Scotland, Wales and across England next May. >> I think it's really important to have, you know, independent voices in this
[3:03:20]debate and particularly from the north and obviously Lucy is a strong voice from the north. always had a you know good degree of independence about what she does because if you look in the news today and I did want to talk about this
[3:03:30]you know we need people to speak up for us and I'm a bit worried about the number of ministers from the northwest particularly that have left the government Lucy Powell was who he was referring to
[3:03:41]there of course and tomorrow Bridget Phillipsson the education secretary announced she was running in between those two uh interviews so the the the phrasing there from Andy Bernham that he
[3:03:52]wanted someone independent was in light of knowing that Bridget Phillipsson, a woman from the north, was standing and the implication was that of course he didn't want it to be her. What do you make of all of that?
[3:04:04]>> That's right. So, Bridget Phillips, the education secretary, survivor of the reshuffle last week, some thought she might not, uh, is going to be running as deputy leader. She is now, it would appear, the candidate that number 10
[3:04:15]want and the one to beat. And if all the loyal MPs and people who are ministers and have jobs in the government support her, she's almost certainly going to get the 80 nominations that they will all
[3:04:26]need to get by Thursday afternoon before they go on to the latter stages where you need to get unions and local Labor parties on side before the winner is announced at the end of October. The
[3:04:37]question now, of course, is who might stand against her. We know there's going to be a candidate from the far left of the party. Bel Robertoro Addi, a London MP, says she is going to stand. She may
[3:04:48]struggle to get the nominations. Bridget Phillipsson points out that she represents Sunderland in the Northeast. She is a workingclass woman. She's grown up in a single parent household,
[3:04:58]overcome lots of barriers in politics, and she says she's the person to bring the fight to Nigel Farage to show that the Labour Party can beat reform. She
[3:05:08]sees that as their key challenge. Now, of course, she is going to be loyal to the leadership. She is from within the cabinet, and there are people like Andy Bernham, who has been critical of the
[3:05:18]Labour leadership uh over the last few months, who want to see what he calls an independent voice. Now, Bridget Phillips is of course from the north. Andy Bernham says he wants someone who's going to be a bit more critical. Lucy
[3:05:30]Powell, who he was talking about, was sacked from the cabinet uh last week, reshuffled out. uh it's unclear whether she's going to stand. Emily Thornbury also a London MP but a bit critical of
[3:05:41]the leadership in some ways. She may stand as well. So I think the key question now is whether there is going to be a sort of center of the party but slightly more critical of K star candidate who is not a minister who
[3:05:53]might stand for the deputy leadership. Important to say that it's very unusual for this role uh to be elected separately from the the election of the
[3:06:02]leader and also at a time when Labour are already in government. That's not something that normally happens. There isn't really much of a precedent for this. So exactly how that role works and what is their job in terms of
[3:06:14]campaigning uh we'll have yet to see. >> Is it I mean it's so interesting this tomorrow and obviously they'll all be discussing it at the cabinet meeting. If Bridget Phillipsson now doesn't win, is
[3:06:25]that a a big blow and embarrassment for the prime minister, for her as well? >> Oh, oh, massively. I mean, she will be standing to win and she will no doubt
[3:06:35]get the support of um her cabinet colleagues and and loyal MPs. I think anyone standing against her will have to consider very carefully whether they are going to get the numbers. 80 is a very
[3:06:46]high bar to be achieved by Thursday afternoon. Um, some MPs on the far left of the party like Richard Bergen have said doing it this quickly is a stitch up. I think frankly there are some candidates on on the left of the party
[3:06:57]who would struggle to get 80 nominations however long they were given but it is quick and um she is she is now the one to beat and who the final candidates will be voted on by Labour party
[3:07:07]members. So the stakes are quite high and the risk I think was that this could become bit of a referendum on Kier Starmmer's leadership. They will be hoping that's headed off by choosing Brit Bridget Phillipsson who hits a
[3:07:17]number of bases uh in terms of um her upbringing and her her journey to the cabinet. But she is someone who is going to be loyal to K star. She will go out
[3:07:27]and bat for him. That is what number 10 want to see and they will be trying to rally Labour MPs around her. I think we'll get a sense by this evening of whether there is going to be any serious
[3:07:37]candidates standing against Bridget Phillipsson. people who MPs who do not back her or vote for her will be sending a message to number 10 that they want someone who is going to be critical. So
[3:07:48]that is going to be a difficult look I think for especially for the for the new MPs. Uh so whether there's going to be a contest at all I think really is is is the question now >> tomorrow. Great stuff as always. Thanks
[3:07:59]so much for that. Now the Democrats have released a lewd birthday letter sent to Jeffrey Epstein that appears to be signed by Donald Trump. The White House has rejected the claims, calling the
[3:08:09]card to be convicted to the convicted sex offender a fake. Part of the document also included messages from the UK's ambassador to Washington, Peter Mandlesson. Our US correspondent, James
[3:08:19]Matthews, has this report. >> This is the British angle on a scandal. Lord Mandolson, the UK ambassador, who
[3:08:27]counted Jeffrey Epstein as his best pal. These are pictures from a newly released birthday book. Mandolson was among friends who celebrated Epstein's 50th
[3:08:38]birthday with the message, "We love you." There was the picture of a tropical island. And there was the message about glorious homes he likes to
[3:08:47]share with his friends. Brackets, yum, yum. In May of this year, Sky News asked Lord Mandlesson about Epstein and stay in his New York flat after he'd been
[3:08:58]convicted. >> My knowledge of him is something uh that I regret. I wish I'd never met him in the first place. >> Why did you have an association with him? Because he was in jail at the time.
[3:09:09]>> Why Why did many people uh meet him? He was a prolific uh networker and I wish I'd never met him in the first place. >> Britain's man in Washington isn't the only name that jumps out from these
[3:09:21]files. Donald Trump's White House has again denied he had any part in this. a handdrawn figure of a woman signed Donald beneath the waist and the line a
[3:09:32]pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday and may every day be another wonderful secret. There are numerous contributors to these documents. It's a disturbing
[3:09:42]read given Epstein's history. This appears to be a note from former President Bill Clinton. He speaks of Epstein's childlike curiosity and drive
[3:09:51]to make a difference. The name Trump features on an outsized check held by Epstein. It's signed DJ Trump. >> There's no suggestion either president
[3:10:01]did anything improper. But for all names in the book compiled by Epstein's co-conspirator, Gillain Maxwell, it makes for uncomfortable reading. James
[3:10:12]Matthews, Sky News in Washington. Well, do tune in at 6 PM. We'll bring you a live news conference at the White House where Donald Trump's press secretary, Caroline Levit, will be
[3:10:22]speaking. Now, parents in England will receive redesigned Offstead report cards. This is happening from November, and it's all part of changes to the way schools are inspected. Well, in the last
[3:10:34]hour, Offstead Chief Inspector Sir Martin Oliver told us why he had made the changes and it was a better system. Parents will see a new report card which
[3:10:45]will better describe the strengths and areas for improvement for a school but it will also give them an at a glance summary and parents have overwhelmingly supported me in saying this is better than the system we used before and it
[3:10:56]will be fairer fairer to teachers and headteers like me I'm teacher and headteer for 30 years had nearly 100 offstead inspections before I took on this job and it will be fairer to them
[3:11:07]because it will better describe those strengths and those areas of improvement better than the blunt one system did previously. >> Well, Anam's here to discuss this a bit more. This was all sparked all of these
[3:11:18]changes that we'll see in November, sparked by the tragic death of teacher, headteer roof parry. Um, after her school, she had a high rating. It was dropped down to poor, inadequate.
[3:11:30]But lots of parents today will be wondering, will these new rules will it make it any easier for them to decide decipher whether their schools is good
[3:11:40]or bad? Is it an easier system to understand? Essentially, >> there's definitely more information available at a glance, and I think that's what Sir Martin was alluding to. There's more information for parents,
[3:11:51]and the response they've had from parents has been largely positive because at a glance, you can now see a color-coded rating system for any school that will have this new style ofstead
[3:12:01]under the new framework. The problem is it doesn't address the issues which have instigated the changes in the first place. And those reasons were around the stress and workload for school leaders
[3:12:13]and schools and the tragic death of Ruth Perry. And we've seen the reaction from the sector across the board from unions and professionals in the education
[3:12:23]sphere. They've all said that this is not the kind of change that they need. It's not supportive and they're asking Bridget Philipsson to delay the roll out because the rollout is due to take place
[3:12:34]from this term from November which is very soon. So there's a real kind of um division if you like between what parents are saying and also what the sector is asking for. >> Yeah, it's really interesting, isn't it?
[3:12:46]Julia Waters, Ruth's sister, wasn't quite sure about the new system, calling it a mishmash of old and new. Essentially, there still is some kind of overall rating, though,
[3:12:57]>> of course. Yeah, there's still a rating system. There's still a grading and a judgment that's given to schools. And I know they said they wanted to move away from those one-word judgments like
[3:13:07]outstanding or inadequate, but they've been replaced by two words. So, it seems as though they haven't really had a change. They've just had a few tweaks and they haven't really listened to the
[3:13:17]sector, but they have listened to parents. >> Okay. All right. And thank you, Anjam Picos. Uh, with the latest there, uh, let's take viewers now through some of the days other news. And there's been an
[3:13:28]explosion on board a boat attempting to carry aid to Gaza. Organizers of the Gaza for a tiller say it was struck by a drone off the coast of Tunisia. All six
[3:13:38]passengers and crew are safe. Tunisia's national guard say the reports of a drone are untrue. France's prime minister will hand in his resignation to President Macarron today
[3:13:50]after a lastm minute attempt to save his job failed. the country's national assembly as did Francois Beiru with an
[3:13:58]overwhelming 364 to 194 in a confidence vote yesterday afternoon. The result was expected and Mr. Beou had received huge
[3:14:08]backlash to his proposed budget which aimed to curb France's public spending. And the real life succession battle for Rbert Murdoch's media empire is come to
[3:14:20]an end. The 94 year old's eldest son, Lacklan, will take full control of the company which owns Fox News, the Wall Street Journal, and the Times. His siblings, James, Elizabeth, and
[3:14:31]Prudence, will give up their voting rights in return for a billion dollar payout. >> Now, Cmandu International Airport is partially closed this morning due to
[3:14:42]protest. Yesterday, at least 19 people were killed in Nepal's capital during protests over a ban on social media, which the government has now rescended. Neville Lazarus joins us now from Delhi with all the details of this story.
[3:14:54]Neville, bring our viewers up to speed. >> Well, there's been these protests yesterday. We saw the unprecedented violence there with the death of 19
[3:15:05]people and over 300 injured some with very severe wounds because the police resorted to live firing water cannons uh tear gas and baiton charges against
[3:15:15]them. It's again kicked off today. There was a curfew imposed since early morning at 8:30 in the capital. Uh but defying all of that protesters have come out.
[3:15:27]They tried to march to parliament which is in the restricted area which has been bolstered by by uh security forces the military and police as well. So now
[3:15:37]they've turned their attention to other parts of the city where they have targeted homes private homes of uh politician
[3:15:46]politicians uh in in in Nepal. Now uh we are seeing pictures of uh the the private home of the prime minister uh oi
[3:15:56]has been set on fire. Uh the president's house has been vandalized. A number of cabinet ministers their homes including the home minister his home has been set
[3:16:06]on fire and also others have been vandalized. Now uh there are plumes of smoke seen across the horizon in Kathmandu and uh protesters are burning
[3:16:18]these homes. They are burning tires on on the roads and also pelting stones at uh at security forces and police. They are pushing back though they have not
[3:16:28]yet come anywhere close to parliament where we saw these speeches yesterday. Uh but nevertheless they are not relenting now. They want uh are demanding for the resignation of the
[3:16:39]prime minister and also for also calling uh for general elections early. uh all this because uh they marched yesterday against corruption in the government and
[3:16:51]also against the ban of these 26 uh social media platforms including YouTube, WhatsApp, Messenger, X,
[3:17:00]Snapchat etc. uh and uh they say that they will not relent unless uh the there is the resignation of the prime minister and his whole government should fall and
[3:17:11]early elections must be called. Neville, great stuff as always. Thanks so much, Neville. Lazarus there for us in Delhi. Still to come here on the Breakfast Show where we're going to be talking about British horse racing, which will go on
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