[0:00]private health information for example to be leaked in ways that violate federal law we also want to make sure that no one misunderstands what the supreme court's ruling
[0:10]on friday in dobbs means that they do not believe that they have any rights whatsoever rights continue forward whether it's family planning whether it is in birth
[0:20]control services and we want to make sure that there's no misunderstanding and that we will enforce any violations of those rights can you
[0:30]do you have a sense of what's specific that was from the health and human services secretary there talking about the path forward therefore the biden
[0:40]administration on abortion rights welcome everyone here to a new hour on live now from fox we really appreciate you joining us here once again i'm your
[0:50]host mike pace as we continue to bring you top stories and headlines from across the country well now we are going to go out to the capitol for the january 6th insurrection
[1:01]committee they will once again have their hearing and of course right here on live now from fox like only you could expect we will be offering up gavel the gavel coverage for you right here so
[1:12]let's go out to the capitol right now where we will hear from an aide of mark meadows the former chief of staff for president trump this was a hearing that
[1:23]we just heard about just yesterday where they released that they will be having this special hearing i wasn't expected to be until sometime in july but the
[1:34]committee wants to do this hearing right now let's go to it right here on live now from fox good afternoon
[1:44]in our hearings over the previous weeks the select committee has laid out the details of a multi-part pressure campaign driven by the former president aimed at
[1:55]overturning the results of the 2020 presidential election and blocking the transfer of power we've shown that this effort was based on a lie
[2:05]a lie that the election was stolen tainted by widespread fraud donald trump's big lie in the weeks ahead the committee will hold additional hearings about how
[2:17]donald trump summoned a mob of his supporters to washington spurred them to march on the capitol and failed to take meaningful action to quell the violence as it was
[2:29]unfolding on january 6th however in recent days the select committee has obtained new information dealing with what was going on in the
[2:40]white house on january 6 and in the days prior specific detailed information about what the former president and his top
[2:50]aides were doing and saying in those critical hours firsthand details of what transpired in the office of the white house chief of staff
[3:00]just steps from the oval office as the threats of violence became clear and indeed violence ultimately descended on the capitol
[3:10]in the attack on american democracy it's an important it's important that the american people hear that information immediately that's why in consultation with the vice
[3:22]chair i've recalled the committee for today's hearing as you've seen and heard in our earlier hearings the select committee has
[3:31]developed a massive body of evidence thanks to the many hundreds of witnesses who have voluntarily provided information relevant to our investigation
[3:42]it hasn't always been easy to get that information because the same people who drove the former president's pressure campaign to overturn the election are now trying
[3:53]to cover up the truth about january 6th but thanks to the courage of certain individuals the truth won't be buried the american people won't be left in the
[4:04]dark our witness today ms cassidy hutchinson has embodied that courage i won't get into a lot of detail about
[4:13]miss hutchinson's testimony we'll show i'll allow her words to speak for themselves and i hope everyone at home will listen very closely
[4:23]first i recognize our distinguished vice chair ms cheney of wyoming for any opening statement she'd care to offer thank you very much mr chairman
[4:34]in our first five hearings the committee has heard from a significant number of republicans including former trump administration justice department officials trump campaign officials
[4:45]several members of president trump's white house staff a prominent conservative judge and several others today's witness ms cassidy hutchinson is
[4:55]another republican and another former member of president trump's white house staff certain of us in the house of representatives recall that ms hutchinson once worked for house
[5:06]republican whip steve scalise but she is also a familiar face on capitol hill because she held a prominent role in the white house legislative affairs office and later was
[5:17]the principal aide to president trump's chief of staff mark meadows miss hutchinson has spent considerable time up here on capitol hill representing the trump administration
[5:27]and we welcome her back up until now our hearings have each been organized to address specific elements of president trump's plan to overturn the 2020 election
[5:39]today we are departing somewhat from that model because ms hutchinson's testimony touches on several important and cross-cutting topics topics that are
[5:49]relevant to each of our future hearings in her role working for the white house chief of staff ms hutchinson handled a vast number of sensitive issues
[5:59]she worked in the west wing several steps down the hall from the oval office ms hutchinson spoke daily with members of congress with high-ranking officials in the administration with senior white
[6:11]house staff including mr meadows with white house counsel lawyers and with mr tony ornato who served as the white house deputy chief of staff
[6:22]she also worked on a daily basis with members of the secret service who were posted in the white house in short miss hutchinson was in a position to know a great deal about the
[6:32]happenings in the trump white house ms hutchinson has already sat for four videotaped interviews with committee investigators and we thank her very much
[6:41]for her cooperation and for her courage we will cover certain but not all relevant topics within ms hutchinson's knowledge today again our future hearings will supply
[6:52]greater detail putting the testimony today in a broader and more complete context today you will hear ms hutchinson relate certain first-hand observations of
[7:03]president trump's conduct on january 6th you will also hear new information regarding the actions and statements of mr trump's senior advisors that day
[7:14]including his chief of staff mark meadows and his white house counsel and we will begin to examine evidence bearing on what president trump and members of the white house staff knew
[7:25]about the prospect for violence on january 6 even before that violence began to best communicate the information the committee has gathered we will follow the practice of our recent hearings
[7:36]playing videotape testimony from miss hutchinson and others and also posing questions to miss hutchinson live mr chairman i yield back
[7:47]thank you very much our witness today is miss cassie hutchinson who served in the trump administration in the white house office of legislative affairs from 2019
[7:58]to 2020 and as a special assistant to the president in the white house chief of staff's office from march 2020 through january 2021
[8:09]i will now swear in our witness the witness will please stand and raise her right hand you swear affirm on the penalty of
[8:19]perjury that the testimony you're about to give is truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god thank you you may be seated as a record reflect the witness answered
[8:34]in the affirmative i now recognize myself for questions ms hutchinson i'd like to start with a few questions about your background the
[8:45]these are some photographs we've obtained highlighting your career these show you with members of congress including
[8:56]steve khalif scalise as well as the white house with leader kevin mccarthy and jim jordan others show you with the president and
[9:08]members of congress aboard air force one before you worked in the white house you worked on capitol hill for representative steve scalise the
[9:18]republican whip and senator ted cruz and then in 2019 you moved to the white house and served there until the end of
[9:29]the trump administration in 2020 when you started at the white house you served at in the office of legislative
[9:38]affairs we understand that you were initially hired as a staff assistant but was soon promoted to a position of greater responsibility
[9:48]can you explain your role for the committee when i moved over to the white house chief of staff's office with mr meadows when he became the fourth chief of staff
[10:00]it's difficult to describe a typical day i was a special assistant to the president and an advisor advisor to the chief of staff the days depended on what the president
[10:11]was doing that day and that's kind of how my portfolio was reflected i had a lot of outreach with members of congress senior cabinet cabinet officials we would work out work on policy issues
[10:22]with relevant internal components and members on the hill as well as security protocol at the white house complex for mr meadows and the president and then you were
[10:34]you received another promotion in march 2020. at that time you became the principal aide to the new white house chief of staff mark meadows is that right that's
[10:44]correct sir what did a typical day look like for you in your work with mr meadows it varied with what was going on we spent a lot of time on the hill i spent
[10:56]time on the hill independently too as i was his liaison for capitol hill um we did a lot of presidential travel engagements but mostly i was there to
[11:07]serve what the chief of staff needed and a lot of times what the chief of staff needed was a reflection of what the president's schedule is detailed to do that day so is it fair to say that you spoke
[11:18]regularly in your position both with members of congress and with senior members of the trump administration that's correct that's a fair assessment sir and would you say that in your work
[11:30]with mr meadows you are typically in contact with him and others in the white house throughout the day that's correct sir mr meadows and i were in contact almost pretty much throughout every day
[11:44]um consistently although so much of grave importance happens in the west wing of the white house it's a quite a small building
[11:56]above me on the screen you can see a map of the first floor of the west wing of the white house on the right
[12:06]you can see the president's oval office on the left the chief of staff's office suite within the chief of staff's office suite
[12:17]is the heart of the west wing was your desk which was between the vice president's office this kirschner's office and the oval office
[12:29]mrs hutchinson is this an accurate depiction of where you were located it's accurate it's a lot smaller than it looks absolutely
[12:40]uh ms hutchinson this is a photo that shows the short distance between your office and the president's oval office
[12:51]and it only takes 5 to 10 seconds or so to walk down the hall from your office to the oval office is that right that's correct thank you pursuant to the section
[13:05]8 of house resolution 503 the chair recognizes gentlewoman from wyoming miss cheney for questions thank you very much mr chairman
[13:16]mr chairman we will begin today with an exchange that first provided ms hutchinson a tangible sense of the ongoing planning for the events of january 6th
[13:26]on january 2nd four days before the attack on our capital president trump's lead lawyer mr giuliani was meeting with white house chief of staff mark meadows and others
[13:37]ms hutchinson do you remember mr giuliani meeting with mr meadows on january 2nd 2021 i do he met with mr meadows in the
[13:46]evening of january 2nd 2021 and we understand that you walked mr giuliani out of the white house that night and he talks to you about january 6th
[13:56]what do you remember him saying as mr giuliani and i were walking to his vehicles that evening he looked at me and said something to the effect of cast are you excited for the sixth it's
[14:08]going to be a great day i remember looking at him saying rudy could you explain what's happening on the six and he had responded something to the effect of
[14:19]we're going to the capitol it's going to be great president's going to be there he's going to look powerful he's he's going to be with the members he's going to be with the senators talk to the chief about it talk to the chief about it he knows
[14:30]about it and did you go back uh then up to the west wing and tell mr meadows about your conversation with mr giuliani i did after mr giuliani had left the campus
[14:40]that evening i went back up to our office and i found mr meadows in his office on the couch he was scrolling through his phone i remember leaning against the doorway and
[14:50]saying i had an interesting conversation with rudy mark sounds like we're going to go to the capitol he didn't look up from his phone and said something to the effect of
[15:01]there's a lot going on guess but i don't know things might get real real bad on january 6th ms hutchinson mr meadows is engaged in
[15:12]litigation with the committee to try to avoid testifying here um what what was your rea action when he said to you things might get real real bad
[15:22]in the days before january 2nd i was apprehensive about the six i had heard general plans for a rally i had heard tentative movements to
[15:32]potentially go to the capitol but when hearing rudy's take on january 6 and then mark's response that was the first that evening was the first moment
[15:44]that i remember feeling scared and nervous for what could happen on january 6 and i had a deeper concern for
[15:55]what was happening with the planning aspects of it thank you ms hutchinson today we're going to be focusing primarily on the events of january 5th
[16:07]and 6th at the white house but to begin and to frame the discussion i want to talk about a conversation that you had with mr john ratcliffe the
[16:17]director of national intelligence and you had this conversation in december of 2020. mr ratcliffe was nominated by president
[16:25]trump uh to oversee u.s intelligence our u.s intelligence community and before his appointment mr ratcliffe was a republican member of congress as
[16:36]you will see on this clip director ratcliffe's comments in december of 2020 were prescient my understanding was mr director
[16:49]didn't want much to do with the post-election period dr radcliffe felt that it wasn't something that the white house
[17:02]should be pursuing it felt it was dangerous for the president's legacy he had expressed me that he was concerned
[17:13]that it could spiral out of control and potentially be dangerous either and for our democracy or
[17:25]the way that things were going for the sex when you say it wasn't something the white house should be pursuing what's the end trying
[17:38]to fight the results of the election fighting missing ballots pressuring filing lawsuits in certain states
[17:53]where there didn't seem to be significant evidence and reaching out to state legislatures about that so pretty much the way that the white house is handling the post-election period he felt that
[18:05]there could be dangerous repercussions in terms of precedent set for elections for our democracy for the six you know he was hoping that
[18:16]we would concede so ms hutchinson now we're going to turn to certain information that was available before january 4th and what the trump administration and
[18:28]the president knew about the potential for violence before january 6. on the screen you will see an email received by acting deputy attorney
[18:37]general donahue on january 4th from the national security division of the department of justice mr donohue testified in our hearings last week
[18:47]the email identifies apparent planning by those coming to washington on january 6 to quote occupy federal buildings and discussions of quote invading the
[18:57]capitol building here's what mr donohue said to us and we knew that if you have tens of thousands of very ups obsessed
[19:07]people showing up in washington dc that there was potential profile u.s secret service was looking at similar information and watching the
[19:17]planned demonstrations in fact their intelligence division sent several emails to white house personnel like deputy chief of staff tony oronado
[19:28]and the head of the president's protective detail robert engel including certain materials listing events like those on the screen the white house continued to receive
[19:39]updates about planned demonstrations including information regarding the proud boys organizing and planning to attend events on january 6th although ms hutchinson has no detailed
[19:50]knowledge of any planning involving the proud boys for january 6th she did note this i recall
[20:01]hearing the word oath keeper and hearing the word proud boys closer to the planning of the january 6 rally when mr giuliani would be around on january 3rd the capitol police issued
[20:15]a special event assessment in that document the capitol police noted that the proud boys and other groups planned to be in washington d.c
[20:26]on january 6th and indicated that quote unlike previous post-election protests the targets of the pro-trump supporters are not necessarily the counter
[20:37]protesters as they were previously but rather congress itself is the target on the sixth of course we all know now that the proud
[20:53]boys showed up on january 6th marched from the washington monument to the capitol that day and led the riotous mob to invade and occupy our capital
[21:04]ms hutchinson i want to play you a clip of one of our meetings when you described a call on january 4th that you received from national security advisor robert o'brien on the same topic
[21:15]potential violence on january 6th i received a call from robert o'brien the national security adviser
[21:25]he had asked if he could speak with mr meadows about potential violent words of violence that he was hearing that were potentially going to happen on the hill
[21:35]on january 6. i had asked if he had connected with tony ornato because tony ronato had a conversation with him with mark about that topic
[21:46]robert had said i'll talk to tony and then i don't know if robert ever connected with mark about the issue
[21:56]ms hutchinson can you describe for us mr ornato's responsibilities as deputy chief of staff the deputy chief of staff position at the white house for operations is
[22:06]arguably one of the most important positions that somebody can hold they're in charge of all security protocol for the campus and all presidential protectees primarily the president and
[22:18]the first family but anything that requires security for any individual that has presidential protection so the chief of staff or the
[22:29]national security adviser as well as the vice president's team too tony would oversee all of that he was the conduit for security protocol between white house staff and the united
[22:39]states secret service thank you and you also described a brief meeting between mr ornato and mr meadows on the potential for violence
[22:50]the meeting was on january 4th they were talking about the potential for violence on january 6th let's listen to a clip of that testimony i remember mr ornato had
[23:01]talked to him about intelligence reports i remember mr ronato coming in and saying that we had intel reports saying that there could potentially be violence on this on the 6th
[23:11]you also told us about reports of violence and weapons that the secret service were receiving on the night of january 5th and throughout the day on january 6th is that correct that's correct
[23:23]there are reports that police in washington dc had arrested several people with firearms or ammunition following a separate pro-trump rally in freedom plaza on the evening of january
[23:34]5th are those some of the reports that you recall hearing about they are of course the world now knows that the people who attacked the capital on
[23:44]january 6th had many different types of weapons when a president speaks the secret service typically requires those attending to pass through metal
[23:53]detectors known as magnetometers or mags for short the select committee has learned that people who willingly entered the enclosed area for president trump's speech
[24:04]were screened so they could attend the rally at the ellipse they had weapons and other items that were confiscated pepper spray knives
[24:14]brass knuckles tasers body armor gas masks batons blunt weapons and those were just from the people who chose to go through the security for the president's event on the ellipse
[24:26]not the several thousand members of the crowd who refused to go through the mags and watched from the lawn near the washington monument the select committee has learned about
[24:36]reports from outside the magnetometers and has obtained police radio transmissions identifying individuals with firearms
[24:46]including ar-15s near the ellipse on the morning of january 6th let's listen there's an individual in a tree
[24:58]maybe a white male about six feet tall ten builds brown cowboy boots he's got blue jeans and a blue jean jacket and underneath the wooden jacket and we're
[25:09]complaining smokes all stock with ar-15 you can be with a group of individuals about five to eight five to uh eight other individuals two of the individuals in that group at
[25:20]the base of the tree near the porta potties were wearing green fatigues greens olive traps thousands of these about five eight five knots skinny uh skinny white males brown cowboy boots
[25:31]they had glock smile pistols in their waistband 87 36 was the message that subject weapon on his right hip cowboy beats
[25:41]weapon on the right right side hip i've got three men walking down the street in facing carrying ar-15 copy at four people independent ar-15s at 14th and independence
[25:59]as you saw in those emails the first report that we showed we now know was sent in the 8 o'clock hour on january 6th this talked about people in the crowd
[26:08]wearing ballistic helmets and body armor carrying radio equipment and military-grade backpacks the second report we showed you on the screen was sent by the secret service in
[26:18]the 11am hour and it addressed reports of a man with a rifle near the ellipse miss hutchinson in prior testimony you described for us a meeting in the white
[26:28]house around 10 a.m in the morning of january 6th involving chief of staff meadows and tony ornato were you in that meeting i was let's listen to your testimony about
[26:40]that meeting and then we'll have some questions i think the last time we talked you mentioned that um some of the weapons that people had
[26:49]at the rally included flight poles oversized sticks or flagpoles bear spray is there anything else that you recall
[27:01]hearing about the people who would gather on your lips hat i recall tony and i having a conversation with mark probably around 10 am
[27:12]10 15 am where i remember tony mentioning knives guns in the form of pistols and rifles
[27:22]um bear spray body armor spears and flagpoles spears were one item flag poles were one item but then tony had relayed to me
[27:31]something to the effect of and these i think people are fascinating spheres onto the ends of flagpoles ms hutchinson here's a clip of your
[27:41]testimony regarding mr meadow's response to learning that the rally attendees were armed that day what was mark's reaction mr meadow's
[27:52]reaction to this list of weapons that people had in the crowd when tony and i went in to talk to mark that morning mark was sitting on his couch and on his phone which was
[28:03]something typical and i remember tony just got right into it i was like sorry i want to let you know and informed him like this is how many people we have outside the mags right now these are the weapons that were known to have it's possible he
[28:14]listed more weapons off that i just don't recall um and gave him a brief but inconcise explanation but also fairly fairly thorough
[28:25]and i remember distinctly mark not looking up from his phone and i remember tony finishing his explanation
[28:37]and it taking a few seconds for mark to say something to the point where i almost said mark did you hear him um and then bark
[28:48]chimed it was like alright anything else still looking down at his phone and tony looked at me and i looked at tony and he said no sir do you have any questions
[29:00]he's like what are you hearing and i looked at tony and i was like sir he just told you about what was happening down at the rallies and he was like yeah i know and then he looked up and said
[29:10]have you talked to the president and tony said yes sir he's aware too all right good he asked tony if tony had informed the
[29:18]president yes and tony said yes he had so ms hutchinson is it your understanding that mr ornato told the president about weapons at the rally on
[29:28]the morning of january 6th that's what mr renato relayed to me and here's how you characterize mr meadows general response when people raised concerns about what could happen
[29:40]on january 6th so at the time in the days leading up to the six there were lots of public reports about how things might go bad on the sex and even the potential for
[29:52]violence if i'm hearing you correctly what stands out to you is that mr meadows did not share those concerns or at least did not act on those concerns
[30:01]did not act on those concerns would be accurate but other people raise them to to him like in this exchange you mentioned that this tornado pulled them aside that's
[30:12]correct miss hutchinson we're going to show now an exchange of texts between you and deputy chief of staff ornato
[30:22]and these text messages were exchanged while you were at the ellipse in one text you write but the crowd looks good from
[30:32]this vantage point as long as we get the shot he was effing furious and the text messages also stressed that president trump kept mentioning the otr
[30:42]and off the record movement we're going to come back and ask you about that in a minute but could you tell us first of all who it is in the text who was furious the he in that text that i was referring
[30:54]to was the president and why was he furious miss hutchinson he was furious because he wanted the arena that we had on the ellipse to be
[31:05]maxed out at capacity for uh all attendees the advanced team had relayed to him that the mags were free-flowing everybody who wanted to come in had
[31:16]already come in but he still was angry about the extra space and wanted more people to come in and did you go to the rally in the presidential motorcade i was there yes
[31:28]in the motor game and were you backstage with the president and other members of his staff and family i was and you told us ms hutchinson about
[31:38]particular comments that you heard while you were in the tent area when we were in the offstage announce
[31:49]area tent behind the stage he was very concerned about the shot meaning the photograph that we would get because the rally space wasn't full
[31:58]um one of the reasons which i've previously stated was because he wanted it to be full and for people to not feel excluded because they'd come far to
[32:09]watch him at the rally um and he felt the mags are at fault for not letting everybody in but another leading reason and likely the primary reason is because he
[32:20]wanted it full and he was angry at that we weren't letting people through the mags with weapons what the secret service deemed his weapons and our our weapons but when we were in the offstage
[32:32]announced tent i was part of a conversation i was in the i was in the vicinity of a conversation where i overheard the president say something to the effect of you know i don't even care that they
[32:43]have weapons they're not here to hurt me take the effing bags away let my people in they can march the capital from here let the people in take
[32:51]the effing mags away just to be clear miss hutchinson is it your understanding that the president wanted to take the mags away and said
[33:02]that the armed individuals were not there to hurt him that's a fair assessment the issue wasn't with the amount of space available in the official rally area uh
[33:14]only but instead that people did not want to have to go through the mags let's listen to a portion of what you told us about that in this particular instance it wasn't
[33:24]the capacity of our space it was the mags and the people that didn't want to come through and that's what tony had been trying to relate to him that morning you know it's not the issues that we encountered on the campaign we
[33:36]have enough space or they don't want to come in right now they they have weapons they don't want confiscated by the secret service and they're fine on the mall they can see you on the mall and they're they
[33:46]want to march straight to the capitol from the mall the president apparently wanted all attendees inside the official rally space and repeatedly said quote they're
[33:57]not here to hurt me and and just to to be clear so um he was told again
[34:08]in that conversation or was he told to get in that conversation that people couldn't come through the mags because they had weapons correct and um
[34:18]that people and his response was to say they can march to the capitol from from the ellipse something the effective take that i think mags away they're not here to hurt me
[34:30]let them in let my people in they can march the capitol after the rally is over they can march from they can march from the ellipse take the effing mags away
[34:39]then they can march the capital ms hutchinson what we saw when those clips were playing were photos provided by the national archives showing the president in the offstage tent before
[34:50]his speech on the ellipse you were in some of those photos as well and i just want to confirm that that is when you heard the president say the people with weapons weren't there to
[35:00]hurt him and that he wanted the secret service to remove the magnetometers that's correct in the photos that you displayed we were standing towards the front of the tent with the tvs
[35:10]really close to where he would walk out to go onto the stage these conversations happened two to three minutes before he took the stage that morning
[35:20]let's reflect on that for a moment president trump was aware that a number of the individuals in the crowd had weapons and were wearing body armor and here's what president trump instructed
[35:31]the crowd to do we're going to walk down and i'll be there with you we're going to walk down we're going to walk down anyone you want but i think right here
[35:43]we're going to walk down to the capitol [Applause] and the crowd as we know did proceed to the capitol it soon became apparent to
[35:53]the secret service including the secret service teams in the crowd along with white house staff the security at the capitol would not be sufficient i've had
[36:07]two or three phone conversations with mr ronaldo when we were at the ellipse and then i had four men on mr meadows detail with me
[36:17]in between those individuals and then a few other bodies on the ground just secret service doing advance
[36:28]they were getting notifications through their radios and mr rordado one conversation had called me and said make sure the chief knows that they're getting closer to the capitol it's
[36:38]um having trouble stacking bodies miss hutchinson when you you said they were having trouble stacking bodies did you mean that law enforcement at the capitol
[36:50]needed more people to defend the capital from the rioters it was becoming clear to us and to the secret service that capitol police officers were getting overrun at the security barricades outside of the
[37:01]capitol building and they were having short they were short people to defend the building against the rioters and uh you mentioned that mr ornato was conveying this to you because he wanted
[37:13]you to tell mr meadows uh so did you did you tell mr meadows that people were getting closer to the capital and that capitol police was having difficulty
[37:24]after i had the conversation with mr meadows mr after i had the conversation with mr ornato i went to have the discussion with mr meadows he was in a secure vehicle at the time making a call so
[37:36]when i had gone over to the car i went to open the door to let him know and he had immediately shut it i don't know who he was speaking with it wasn't something that he regularly
[37:46]did especially when i would go over to give him information so i was a bit taken aback but i didn't think much of it and thinking that i was would be able to have the conversation with him a few
[37:58]moments later and were you able to have that conversation a few moments later probably about 20 to 25 minutes later there was another period in between where he shut the door again and then when he finally got out of the
[38:10]vehicle we had the conversation but at that point there was a backlog of information that he should have been made aware of and so you opened the door to the control car and mr meadows pulled it
[38:21]shut that's correct and he did that two times that's correct and when you finally were able to give mr meadows the information about the violence at the capitol what
[38:32]was his reaction he almost had a lack of reaction i remember him
[38:44]saying all right something to the effect of how much longer does the president have left in this speech again
[38:57]much of this information about the potential for violence was known or learned before the onset of the violence early enough for president trump to take steps to prevent it
[39:09]he could for example have urged the crowd at the ellipse not to march to the capitol he could have condemned the violence immediately once it began or he could have taken multiple other steps
[39:20]but as we will see today and in later hearings president trump had something else in mind one other question at this point ms hutchinson were you aware of concerns
[39:30]that white house counsel pat sipoloni or eric hirschman had about the language president trump used in his elipse speech there were many discussions the morning
[39:40]of the six about the rhetoric of the speech that day in my conversations with mr hirschman he had relayed that we would be
[39:51]foolish to include language that had been included at the president's request which headlines along to the effect of
[40:02]fight for trump we're going to march the capitol i'll be there with you fight for me fight for what we're doing fight for the movement things about vice president at the time
[40:15]too both mr hershman and white house counsel's office were urging the speechwriters to not include that language for legal concerns and also for the
[40:25]optics of what it could portray the president wanting to do that day and we just heard the president say that he would be with his supporters as they marched to the capitol
[40:36]even though he did not end up going he certainly wanted to some have questioned whether president trump genuinely planned to come here to
[40:47]the capitol on january 6th in his book mark meadows falsely wrote that after president trump gave his speech on january 6 he told mr meadows
[40:57]that he was quote speeding med speaking metaphorically about the walk to the capitol as you will see donald trump was not speaking metaphorically
[41:07]as we heard earlier rudy giuliani told ms hutchinson that mr trump planned to travel to the capitol on january 6. i want to pause for just a moment
[41:18]to ask you ms hutchinson to explain some of the terminology you will hear today we've heard you use two different terms to describe plans for the president's movement
[41:28]the capital or anywhere else one of those is a scheduled movement and another one is otr could you describe for us what each of those mean a scheduled presidential movement is on
[41:39]his official schedule it's notified to the press and to a wide range of staff that will be traveling with him it's known to the public known to the secret service and they're able to coordinate the movement
[41:50]days in advance an off-the-record movement is confined to the knowledge of a very very small group of advisors and staff typically a very small group of staff
[42:01]would travel with him mostly that are just included in the national security package you can pull an off to off the record movement together in
[42:11]less than an hour it's a way to kind of circumvent having to release it to the press if that's the
[42:20]goal of it or to not have to have as many security parameters put in place ahead of time to make the movement happen thank you and let's turn back now to the
[42:32]president's plans to travel to the capitol on january 6th we know that white house counsel pat sipoloni was concerned about the legal implications of such a trip and he
[42:42]agreed with the secret service that it shouldn't happen miss hutchinson did you have any conversations with pat sipoloni about his concerns about the president going to the capitol on january 6th
[42:54]on january 3rd mr sipoloni had approached me knowing that mark had raised the prospect of going up to the capitol on january 6. mr sipoloni and i had a brief private
[43:06]conversation where he said to me we need to make sure that this doesn't happen this would be
[43:14]a legally a terrible idea for us we have serious legal concerns if we go up to the capitol that day and he then urged me
[43:25]to continue relaying that to mr meadows because it's my understanding that mr sipoloni thought that mr meadows was indeed pushing this along with the
[43:35]president and we understand miss hutchinson that you also spoke to mr sipoloni on the morning of the sixth as you were about to go to the rally on the ellipse
[43:47]and mr sipoloni said something to you like make sure the movement to the capitol does not happen is that correct that's correct i saw mr sipoloni right before i walked out onto west exec that
[43:58]morning and mr cipolloni said something to the effect of please make sure we don't go up to the capitol cassidy keep in touch with me we're going to get charged with every
[44:10]crime imaginable if we make that movement happen and do you remember which crimes mr cipolloni was concerned with in the days leading up to the six we had
[44:22]conversations about potentially obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral account let's hear
[44:32]about some of those concerns that you mentioned earlier in one of your interviews with us having a private conversation with pat late in the afternoon of
[44:43]third or the fourth that pat was concerned it would look like we were obstructing justice or obstructing the electoral college
[44:55]count and i apologize for probably not being very firm with my legal terms here but um that it would look like we were
[45:06]obstructing what was happening on capitol hill and he was also worried that it would look like we were inciting a riot or encouraging a riot to erupt on the
[45:17]capitol at the capitol in fact in the days before january 6 and on january 6 itself president trump
[45:27]expressed to multiple white house aides that he wanted to go to the capitol after his speech here's what various white house aides have told the committee about the president's desire
[45:37]to go to the capitol did the president tell you this that he wanted to speak at the capitol correct yes during the meeting in the dining room did the the idea of the president
[45:49]um proceeding or walking to the capitol on the six after his speech come up walking to the capitol no driving to the capitol it came up
[46:00]okay how did it come up and what was discussed you brought it up you said i want to go down to the capitol what about him marching to the capitol on the sixth um yes
[46:12]tell us about that so it's kind of a general thing i mean to get into the specifics of it i i was aware of the
[46:22]desire of the president to potentially uh march to the or or accompany the
[46:34]rally attendees to the capitol when did you first hear about this idea of the president accompanying rally attendees to the capitol on the sixth well this was at the six this was during the
[46:45]um after he finished his remarks when the president said that he would be going to the capitol during his speech on the ellipse the secret service
[46:54]scrambled to find a way for him to go we know this from witnesses and the secret service also from messages among staff on the president's national security council
[47:06]the nsc staff were monitoring the situation in real time and you can see how the situation evolved in the following chat log that the committee has obtained
[47:18]as you can see nsc staff believed that mogul the president was quote going to the capitol and quote they are finding the best
[47:29]route now from these chats we also know the staff learned of the attack on the capitol in real time when president trump left the
[47:39]ellipse stage at 110 the staff knew that rioters had invaded the inaugural stage and capitol police were calling
[47:49]for all available officers to respond when republican leader kevin mccarthy heard the president say he was going to the capitol
[48:00]he called you ms hutchinson isn't that right that's correct and in this text message you told tony ornato quote mccarthy just
[48:12]called me too and do you guys think you're coming to my office tell us about the call that day with leader mccarthy during the president's speech on the ellipse
[48:23]i was still in the tent behind the stage and when you're behind the stage you can't really hear what's going on in front of you so when mr mccarthy called me with this
[48:34]information i answered the call and he sounded rushed but also frustrated and angry at me and i was confused because i didn't know what the
[48:44]president had just said he then explained the president just said he's marching to the capitol you told me this whole week you aren't coming up here why would you
[48:55]lie to me i said i'm i'm not lying i i wasn't lying to you sir i we're not going to the capitol and he said well he just said it on stage cassidy figure
[49:05]it out don't come up here i said i'll i'll i'll run the traps on this now i'll shoot you a text i can assure you we're not coming up to the capitol we've already made that decision
[49:16]he pressed a little bit more believing me but i think frustrated that the president had said that and we ended the phone conversation after that
[49:27]i called mr oronato to reconfirm that we weren't going to the capitol and which was also in our text messages i sent mr mccarthy another text
[49:39]telling him the affirmative that we were not going up to the capitol and he didn't respond after that and we understand miss hutchinson that the plans for the president to come to
[49:49]the capitol had included discussions at some point about what the president would do when he came up to the capitol on january 6th
[50:00]let's look at a clip of one of your interviews discussing that issue with the committee when you were talking about a scheduled movement did anyone say what the president wanted to
[50:11]do when he got here no not that i can specifically remember i
[50:21]remember i remember hearing a few different ideas discussed with between mark and scott perry marco rudy giuliani
[50:32]i don't know which conversations were elevated to the president i don't know what he personally wanted to do when he
[50:42]went up to the capitol that day um you know i i know that there were discussions about him having another speech outside of the capitol before going in
[50:54]i know that there is a conversation about him going into the house chamber at one point as we've all just heard in the days leading up to january 6th
[51:06]on the day of the speech both before and during and after the rally speech president trump was pushing his staff to arrange for him to come up here to the capitol during
[51:17]the electoral vote count let's turn now to what happened in the president's vehicle when the secret service told him he would not be going to the capitol
[51:28]after his speech first here is the president's motorcade leaving the ellipse after his speech on january 6th miss hutchinson
[51:54]when you returned to the white house in the motorcade after the president's speech where did you go when i returned to the white house i walked upstairs towards the chief of
[52:03]staff's office and i noticed mr ronato lingering outside of the office once we had made eye contact he quickly waved me to go into his office which was just across the hall from mine
[52:14]when i went in he shut the door i noticed bobby angle who's the head of mr trump's security detail sitting in a chair just looking somewhat discombobulated and a little lost
[52:26]i looked at tony and he had said did you i think hear what happened in the beast he said no tony i just got back what happened tony proceeded to tell me that
[52:42]when the president got in the beast he was under the impression from mr meadows that the off the record movement to the capitol was still possible and likely to happen but that bobby had more
[52:52]information so once the president had gotten into the vehicle with bobby he thought that they were going up to the capitol and when bobby had relayed to him
[53:03]we're not we don't have the assets to do it it's not secure we're going back to the west wing the president had very strong
[53:12]very angry response to that [Music] tony described him as being irate the president said something to the effect of
[53:23]i'm the effing president take me up to the capitol now to which bobby responded sir we have to go back to the west wing the president
[53:35]reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel mr engel grabbed his arm said sir you need to take your hand off the steering wheel
[53:47]we're going back to the west wing we're not going to the capitol mr trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby angle and mr when mr
[53:57]ronato had recounted the story to me he had motioned towards his clavicles and was mr engel in the room as mr ornato told you this
[54:08]story he was did mr engel correct or disagree with any part of the story from mr ornato mr engel did not
[54:19]correct or disagree with any part of the story did mr engel or mr ornato ever after that tell you that what mr ornato had just said was untrue
[54:30]neither mr ornato nor mr engel told me ever that it was untrue and despite this altercation this
[54:39]physical altercation during the ride back to the white house president trump still demanded to go to the capitol here's what kaylee mciney the white
[54:50]house press secretary at the time wrote in her personal notes and told the committee about president trump's desire to go to the capitol after returning to the white house
[55:02]when you wrote potus wanted to walk to the capitol was that based solely on what the president said during his speech or anything that he or anybody else said afterwards
[55:14]so to the best of my recollection i believe when we got back to the white house he said he wanted to physically walk with the marchers and according to my notes he then said uh
[55:25]you'd be fine with just writing the beast but so that's my recollection he wanted to be a part of the march in some fashion and just for the record the beast refers
[55:35]to the presidential limousine yes president trump did not go to the capitol that day we understand that he blamed mark
[55:45]meadows for that so prior to leaving the rally site when he got off the stage and everybody was making the movement
[55:55]back to the motorcade i had overheard mr meadows say to him then as i had prior to mr trump taking the stage that morning
[56:04]that he was still working on getting an off the record movement to the capitol so when mr trump took the stage he was under the impression by mr meadows that
[56:15]it was still possible so when he got off the stage i had related to mr meadows that i had another conversation with tony the movement was still not possible mr meadow said okay
[56:26]and then as they proceeded to go to the motorcade um and mr meadows had reiterated we're going to work on it sir talk to bobby bobby has more information
[56:37]mark got into his vehicle to my understanding trump got into the beast and after we'd all arrived back at the white house later in the day
[56:48]it had been released me by a mark that the president wasn't happy that bobby didn't pull it off for him and that mark didn't work hard enough to get the
[56:58]movement on the books the physical altercation that ms hutchinson described in the presidential vehicle was not the first time that the
[57:09]president had become very angry about issues relating to the election on december 1 2020 attorney general barr said in an interview that the department
[57:19]of justice had not not found evidence of widespread election fraud sufficient to change the outcome of the election ms hutchinson how did the president
[57:29]react to hearing that news around the time that i understand the ap article went live i remember hearing noise coming from
[57:40]down the hallway so i poked my head out of the office i saw the valet walking towards our office he had said get the chief down to the dining room the president wants him
[57:52]so mark went down to the dining room came back to the office a few minutes later after mark had returned i left the office and went down to the dining room and i noticed that the door was propped
[58:03]open and the valley was inside the dining room changing the tablecloth off of the dining room table he motioned for me to come in and then pointed towards the front of
[58:13]the room near the fireplace mantle and the tv where i first noticed there was ketchup dripping down the wall and there's a shattered porcelain plate on the floor
[58:25]the valet had articulated that the president was extremely angry at the attorney general's ap interview
[58:36]and had thrown his lunch against the wall um which was causing them to have to clean up so i grabbed a towel and started
[58:46]wiping the catch up off the wall to help the valet out and he said something to the effect of he's really ticked off about this i would stay clear of him
[58:58]for right now he's really really ticked off about this right now and miss hutchinson was this the only instance that you are aware of where the president
[59:07]threw dishes it's not and are there other instances in the dining room that you recall where he expressed his anger there were there were several times
[59:19]throughout my tenure with the chief of staff that i was aware of him either throwing dishes or flipping the tablecloth to let all the contents of the table go onto the floor and
[59:31]likely break or go everywhere and miss hutchinson attorney general barr described to the committee the president's
[59:41]angry reaction when he finally met with president trump let's listen and uh i said look i i
[59:52]know that you're dissatisfied with me and i'm glad to offer my resignation and he pounded the table very hard everyone sort of jumped and he said accept it mr chairman i reserve
[1:00:06]gentlewoman reserves the chair requests those in the hearing room to remain seated until the capitol police have escorted our witness from the room
[1:00:16]pursuant to the order of the committee of today the chair declares the committee in recess for a period of approximately 10 minutes you're watching live now from fox
[1:00:31]everybody as uh you heard it right there they are taking that quick uh 10 minute break and uh the witness testimony is the former aide to chief of staff mark
[1:00:40]meadows cassidy hutchinson and this is a really a lot to get to here a lot of highlights already as we're learning really the timeline
[1:00:51]leading up to january 6 and then of course the day of and really the moments before and after president trump's uh speech to his
[1:01:02]supporters there at the eclipse there so let's take a quick two minute break here on live down from fox and i want to replay some of the biggest moments
[1:01:11]including uh when uh the former president trump said in terms that quote i'm the effin president uh let my people
[1:01:21]in so we'll have all of that coming for you right here on live now from fox [Music]
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[1:03:31]and welcome back everyone here to live now from fox i'm your host mike paige thanks so much uh for joining us here today we really appreciate it uh of course we are continuing to give you gavel together coverage right here of
[1:03:42]the january 6 committee the hearing right now is in a short recess right here but this is a hearing today that has a lot of highlights the witness
[1:03:53]today is cassidy hutchinson a former aide to the chief of staff mark meadows and right now i want to play out some of the highlights here including the testimony
[1:04:05]from hutchinson talking about the wants and needs of then president trump wanting to go to the capitol after
[1:04:14]after he gave his speech on january 6. let's listen right here on live now from fox that had been included at the
[1:04:26]president's request which headlines along to the effect of fight for trump we're going to march the capitol i'll be there with you
[1:04:38]fight for me fight for what we're doing fight for the movement um things about the vice president at the time too both mr hershman and white house
[1:04:49]counsel's office were urging the speechwriters to not include that language for legal concerns and also for the optics of what it could portray the
[1:04:59]president wanting to do that day and we just heard the president say that he would be with his supporters as they marched to the capitol even though
[1:05:09]he did not end up going he certainly wanted to some have questioned whether president trump genuinely planned to come here to the capitol on january 6th
[1:05:21]in his book mark meadows falsely wrote that after president trump gave his speech on january 6th he told mr meadows that he was quote speeding medi speaking
[1:05:31]metaphorically about the walk to the capitol as you will see donald trump was not speaking metaphorically as we heard earlier rudy giuliani told
[1:05:41]miss hutchinson that mr trump plans to travel to the capitol on january 6th i want to pause for just a moment to ask you ms hutchinson to explain some of the
[1:05:52]terminology you will hear today we've heard you use two different terms to describe plans for the president's movement the capitol or anywhere else one of those is a scheduled movement and
[1:06:04]another one is otr could you describe for us what each of those mean a scheduled presidential movement is on his official schedule it's notified to the press and to a wide
[1:06:15]range of staff that will be traveling with him it's known to the public known to the secret service and they're able to coordinate the movement days in advance an off-the-record movement is confined
[1:06:26]to the knowledge of a very very small group of advisors and staff typically a very small group of staff would travel with him mostly that are just included in the
[1:06:36]national security package you can pull an off to off the record movement together in less than an hour um it's a way to kind of circumvent
[1:06:48]having to release it to the press if that's the goal of it or to not have to have as many security parameters put in place ahead of time to
[1:06:58]make the movement happen thank you and let's turn back now to the president's plans to travel to the capitol on january 6th we know that white house counsel pat
[1:07:09]sipoloni was concerned about the legal implications of such a trip and he agreed with the secret service that it shouldn't happen ms hutchinson did you have any
[1:07:19]conversations with pat sipoloni about his concerns about the president going to the capitol on january 6th on january 3rd mr sipoloni had approached me knowing that mark had
[1:07:30]raised the prospect of going up to the capitol on january 6. mr sipoloni and i had a brief private conversation where
[1:07:39]he said to me we need to make sure that this doesn't happen this would be a legally a terrible idea for us
[1:07:50]we have serious legal concerns if we go up to the capitol that day and he then urged me to continue relaying that to mr meadows because
[1:08:01]it's my understanding that mr sipoloni thought that mr meadows was indeed pushing this along with the president and we understand miss hutchinson that
[1:08:11]you also spoke to mr sipoloni on the morning of the sixth as you were about to go to the rally on the ellipse and mr sipolini said something to you like make sure the movement to the
[1:08:22]capital does not happen is that correct that's correct i saw mr sipoloni right before i walked out onto west exec that morning and mr cipolloni said something to the
[1:08:34]effect of please make sure we don't go up to the capitol cassidy keep in touch with me we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that
[1:08:44]movement happen and do you remember which crimes mr sippiloni was concerned with in the days leading up to the six we had conversations about potentially
[1:08:55]obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral account let's hear about some of those concerns that you
[1:09:06]mentioned earlier in one of your interviews with us having a private conversation with pat late in the afternoon of third or the fourth that pat was concerned it would look
[1:09:21]like we were obstructing justice or obstructing the electoral college count and i apologize for probably not being very
[1:09:32]firm with my legal terms here but um that it would look like we were obstructing what was happening on capitol hill and he was also worried that it would look
[1:09:44]like we were inciting a riot or encouraging a riot to erupt on the capitol at the capitol in fact in the days before january 6 and
[1:09:56]on january 6 itself president trump expressed to multiple white house aides that he wanted to go to the capitol after his speech here's what various white house aides have told the
[1:10:07]committee about the president's desire to go to the capitol did the president tell you this that he wanted to speak at the capitol correct yes during the meeting in the dining room
[1:10:18]did the the idea of the president um proceeding or walking to the capitol on the six after his speech come up walking to the capitol no
[1:10:29]driving to the capitol it came up okay how did it come up and what was discussed you brought it up you said i want to go down to the capitol what about him marching to the capitol
[1:10:40]on the sixth um yes tell us about that so it's kind of a general thing i mean to get into the specifics of it i
[1:10:51]i was aware of the desire of the president to potentially uh march to the or or accompany
[1:11:03]the um rally attendees to the capitol when did you first hear about this idea of the president accompanying rally attendees to the capitol on the sixth
[1:11:13]well this was at the six this was during the um after he finished his remarks when the president said that he would be going to the capitol during his speech
[1:11:25]we are going to take a quick two minute break here for some of you on live now from fox we are just moments away from the committee to come back from recess we want to get one more break here out
[1:11:35]of the way before that happens the nsc staff were monitoring the situation in real time and you can see how the situation evolved in the following chat log that
[1:11:46]the committee has obtained as you can see nsc staff believed that mogul the president was quote going to the capitol
[1:11:58]and quote they are finding the best route now from these chats we also know the staff learned of the attack on the capitol in real time
[1:12:09]when president trump left the ellipse stage at 110 the staff knew that rioters had invaded the inaugural stage and capitol police
[1:12:19]were calling for all available officers to respond when republican leader kevin mccarthy heard the president say he was going to
[1:12:30]the capitol he called you miss hutchinson isn't that right that's correct and in this text message
[1:12:40]you told tony ornato quote mccarthy just called me too and do you guys think you're coming to my office tell us about the call that day with leader mccarthy during the president's
[1:12:52]speech on the ellipse i was still in the tent behind the stage and when you're behind the stage you can't really hear what's going on in front of you
[1:13:03]so when mr mccarthy called me with this information i answered the call and he sounded rushed but also frustrated and angry at me and i was
[1:13:14]confused because i didn't know what the president had just said um he then explained the president just said he's marching to the capitol you told me this whole week
[1:13:25]you aren't coming up here why would you lie to me i said i'm i'm not lying i wasn't lying to you sir i we're not going to the capitol and he said well he just said it on stage cassidy figure
[1:13:36]it out don't come up here i said i'll i'll i'll run the traps on this knot i'll shoot you a text i can assure you we're not coming up to the capitol we've already made that decision
[1:13:48]he pressed a little bit more believing me but i think frustrated that the president had said that and we ended the phone conversation after that
[1:13:58]i called mr oronato to pre-confirm that we weren't going to the capitol and which was also in our text messages i sent mr mccarthy another text
[1:14:10]telling him the affirmative that we were not going up to the capitol and he didn't respond after that and we understand miss hutchins all right so that was just one of the
[1:14:20]many highlights uh so far you could see on the right there that they are coming back from recess so we are going to go to that live right here on live down from fox so you don't miss anything
[1:14:31]right here once again for those of you just joining us the witness today is cassidy hutchinson the former aide chief of staff mark meadows really describing
[1:14:41]leading up to january 6 as well as the actions from the administration before and after the riots so let's listen right here on live now from fox for more
[1:14:52]gavel the gavel coverage right here the committee will be in order chief recognizes the general woman from wyoming vice chair cheney
[1:15:02]thank you mr chairman before we turn to what ms hutchinson saw and heard in the white house during the violent attack on the capitol on january 6th
[1:15:13]let's discuss certain communications white house chief of staff mark meadows had on january 5th president trump's associate
[1:15:23]roger stone attended rallies during the afternoon and the evening of january 5th in washington dc on january 5th and 6th
[1:15:33]mr stone was photographed with multiple members of the oath keepers who were allegedly serving as his security detail as we now know
[1:15:44]multiple members of that organization have been charged with or pled guilty to crimes associated with january 6th mr stone has invoked his fifth amendment
[1:15:54]privilege against self-incrimination before this committee general michael flynn has also taken the fifth before this committee mr stone previously had been convicted
[1:16:06]of other federal crimes unrelated to january 6th general flynn had pleaded guilty to a felony charge also predating and unrelated to january 6.
[1:16:17]president trump pardoned general flynn just weeks after the presidential election and in july of 2020 he commuted the sentence roger stone was to serve
[1:16:28]the night before january 6th president trump instructed his chief of staff mark meadows to contact both roger stone and michael flynn regarding what would
[1:16:40]play out the next day miss hutchinson is it your understanding that president trump asked mark meadows to speak with roger stone and general
[1:16:50]flynn on january 5th that's correct that is my understanding and ms hutchinson is it your understanding that mr meadows called mr stone on the fifth
[1:17:00]i'm under the impression that mr meadows did complete both a call to mr stone and general flynn the evening of the fifth and do you know what they talked about
[1:17:10]that evening ms hutchinson i'm not sure is it your understanding that mr giuliani mr eastman and others had set
[1:17:20]up what has been called quote a war room at the willard hotel on the night of the fifth i was aware of that the night of the fifth and do you know if mr meadows ever
[1:17:30]intended to go to the willard hotel on the night of the fifth mr meadows had a conversation with me where he wanted me to work with secret service on a movement from the white
[1:17:41]house to the bullard hotel so he could attend the meeting or meetings with mr giuliani and his associates in the war room and
[1:17:52]what was your view as to whether or not mr meadows should go to the willard that night i had made it clear to mr meadows that i didn't believe it was a smart idea for
[1:18:04]him to go to the willard hotel that night i wasn't sure everything that was going on at the willard hotel although i knew enough about what mr giuliani and his associates were
[1:18:14]pushing during this period i didn't think that it was something appropriate for the white house chief of staff to attend or to consider involvement and
[1:18:25]i made that clear to mr meadows throughout the afternoon he mentioned a few more times going up to the willard hotel that evening and then eventually dropped the subject
[1:18:36]the night of the fifth and said that he would dial in instead so general flynn has appeared before this committee and when he appeared before our
[1:18:47]committee he took the fifth let's briefly view a clip of general mike flynn taking the fifth amendment uh general flynn do you believe the
[1:19:00]violence on january 6 was justified do we have yes all right
[1:19:24]could you repeat the question please yes general flynn do you believe the violence on january 6 was justified is that connected to clarification it's
[1:19:35]not a moral question of you asking a complete question i'm asking both do you believe the violence on january 6
[1:19:57]was justified morally take the theft you believe the violence on january 6 was justified legally general flynn do you believe in the
[1:20:12]peaceful transition of power in the united states of let's america let's move on now to january 6th and the
[1:20:24]conduct of donald trump and mark meadows during the attack on the capitol ms hutchinson i'd like now for us to listen to a description
[1:20:34]your description of what transpired in the west wing during the attack for context in this clip you describe
[1:20:42]the time frame starting at about 2 pm so i remember mark being alone in his office for uh quite some time and you know
[1:20:53]i know we've spoken about ben williamson going in at one point and i don't personally remember ben going and i don't doubt that he had gone in um but i remember him being alone in his
[1:21:03]office for most of the afternoon around two o'clock to 205 around two o'clock to 205 you know we were watching the tv and i
[1:21:14]could see that the riders were getting closer and closer to the capitol mark still hadn't popped out of his office or said anything about it so that's when i went into his office i saw that he was sitting on his couch
[1:21:25]on a cell phone same as the morning where he was just kind of scrolling and typing um i said
[1:21:36]hey are you watching the tv chief because tv was small you can see it but i didn't know if he was really paying attention watching the tv chief he was like yeah
[1:21:48]the writers are getting really close have you talked to the president he said no he wants to be alone right now still looking at his phone
[1:21:57]so i started to get frustrated because i sort of felt like i was watching a this is not a great comparison but a bad
[1:22:08]car accident that was about to happen where you can't stop it but you want to be able to do something and i just remember i remember thinking
[1:22:19]in that moment mark needs to snap out of this and i don't know how to snap him out of this but he he needs to care and i just remember i blurted out i said mark do you know where jim's at right
[1:22:30]now and he looked up at me at that point said jim i said marcus he was on the floor a little while ago giving a floor speech did you listen he said yeah it was real good did you
[1:22:41]like it and i said yeah do you know where he's at right now he said no i haven't heard from him you might want to check in with him mark and i remember pointing at the tv and
[1:22:51]the writers are getting close they might get in and he looked at me and said something to the effect of all right i'll give him a call not long after the rioters broke into
[1:23:05]the capitol you described what happened with white house counsel pat cipoloni no more than a minute
[1:23:16]a minute and a half later i see pastor bologna barreling down the hallway towards our office and rushed right in looked at me said is mark in his office and i said
[1:23:28]yes he just looked at me and started shaking his head and went over open marks off the store stood there with the door propped open
[1:23:38]and said something to the mark is still sitting on his phone i remember like lansing and he's still sitting on his phone and i remember pat saying to him something to the effect of the writers have gotten to the capital
[1:23:50]mark we need to go down and see the president now and mark looked up at it and said he doesn't want to do anything bad and pat said something to the effect of
[1:24:00]and very clearly had said this to mark something's the effect of mark something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood's
[1:24:11]going to be on your effing hands this is getting out of control i'm going down there and at that point mark stood up from his couch both of his phones in his hand he had his glasses on still
[1:24:22]he walked out with pat he put both of his phones on my desk and said let me know if jim calls and they walked out and went down to the dining room
[1:24:33]a few minutes later representative jordan called back a couple minutes later so likely around
[1:24:44]between 2 15 2 25 i know the tweet went out at 2 24 i don't remember if i was there when the tweet went out or if it happened right afterwards but
[1:24:56]jim had called i answered the phone said one second he knew it was i guess he knew this man i introduced myself but i i don't remember if he called my cell phone or if he had
[1:25:06]called one of marx um but i answered the phones in one second mark's on the hall i'm going to go hand the phones and he said okay so i went down i asked the ballet if
[1:25:17]mark was in the dining room valerie said yes i opened the door to the dining room briefly stepped in to get mark's attention
[1:25:27]showed him the phone like flipped the phone his way so he could see it said jim jordan he had stepped to where i was standing there holding the door open took the phone talking to jim with the
[1:25:38]door still propped open so i took a few steps back so i probably was two feet from mark he was standing in the doorway going to the oval office dining room
[1:25:50]they had a brief conversation and in the crossfires you know i heard briefly like what they were talking about but in the background i had heard conversations in the oval dining room at
[1:26:00]the point at that point talking about the hang mike pence chance that clip ended ms hutchinson with you recalling that you heard the president
[1:26:12]mr meadows and the white house council discussing the hang mike pence chance and then you described for us what happened next it wasn't until
[1:26:24]mark hung up the phone handed it back to me i went back to my desk a couple minutes later him and pat came back possibly eric
[1:26:35]hirschman too i'm pretty sure eric hershey was there but i'm i'm confident it was pat that was there
[1:26:45]um i remember pat saying something to the effect of mark we need to do something more they're literally calling
[1:26:54]for the vice president to be effing hung and mark had responded something to the effect of you heard him pat he thinks mike deserves it he doesn't think they're doing anything wrong
[1:27:06]to which pat said something this is nothing crazy we need to be doing something more briefly stepped into mark's office and when mark had said something marcus said something to the
[1:27:17]effect of he doesn't think they're doing anything wrong knowing what i had heard briefly in the dining room coupled with pat discussing to hang my
[1:27:29]pen's chance in the lobby of our office and then mark's response i understood there to be the riders in the capital that were chanting
[1:27:41]for the vice president to be hung let me pause here on this point as rioters chanted hang mike pence the president of the united states
[1:27:52]donald trump said that quote mike deserves it and that those rioters were not doing anything wrong this is a sentiment that he has expressed at other times as well
[1:28:03]in an interview with abc news correspondent jonathan carl president trump was asked about the supporters chanting hang mike pence last year
[1:28:14]instead of condemning them the former president defended them because it's common sense it's common sense that
[1:28:26]you're supposed to protect how can you if you know a vote is fraudulent right how can you pass on a fraudulent vote to congress
[1:28:36]president trump's view that the rioters were not doing anything wrong and that quote mike deserved it helps us to understand why the president
[1:28:46]did not ask the rioters to leave the capitol for multiple hours in fact he put this tweet out at 2 24 p.m ms hutchinson do you recall
[1:29:01]seeing this tweet in which the president said the vice president did not have the courage to do what needed to be done i do miss hutchinson what was your reaction
[1:29:12]when you saw this tweet as a staffer that worked
[1:29:21]to always represent the administration to the best of my ability and to showcase the good things that he had done for the country i remember feeling
[1:29:35]frustrated disappointed and really it felt personal i it was really sad as an american
[1:29:47]i was disgusted it was unpatriotic it was un-american we were watching the capitol
[1:29:59]building get defaced over a lie and it was something that was really hard in that moment to digest knowing what i'd been hearing
[1:30:10]down the hall in the conversations that were happening seeing that tweet come up and knowing what was happening on the hill and it's something that i
[1:30:22]it's still i still struggle to work through the emotions of that ms such as we have also spoken to multiple other white house staff about
[1:30:33]their reaction to donald trump's 224 tweet condemning mike pence for not having the courage to refuse to count electoral votes an act that would have been illegal
[1:30:45]matthew pottinger a former marine intelligence officer who served in the white house for four years including including as deputy national security
[1:30:54]adviser was in the vicinity of the oval office at various points throughout the day when he saw that tweet he immediately decided to resign his position
[1:31:06]let's watch him describe his reaction to the president's tweet one of my staff brought me a printout
[1:31:16]of a tweet by the president and the tweet said something to the effect that mike pence the vice president didn't have the courage
[1:31:27]um to do what he what should have been done um i uh i read that tweet
[1:31:37]uh and uh made a decision at that moment to resign uh that's where i knew that i was leaving that day
[1:31:46]once i read that tweet ultimately members of the white house staff sarah matthews cabinet members secretary chao
[1:31:55]and secretary devos resigned as well here is secretary devos's resignation letter as you can see in resigning on january 6
[1:32:06]secretary devos said to the president quote there's no mistaking the impact your rhetoric had on the situation and it is the inflection point for me let's also look at secretary chao's
[1:32:18]resignation statement when secretary chau resigned she spoke of the january 6 attack and she said quote as i am sure is the case with many of you
[1:32:30]this has deeply troubled me in a way i simply cannot set aside ms hutchinson in our prior interviews we've asked you about what the president's advisors were urging him to
[1:32:41]do during the attack you've described roughly three different camps of thought inside the white house that day can you tell us about those
[1:32:51]there's a group of individuals that were strongly urging him to take immediate and swift action i would classify the white house counsel's office mr hirschman miss
[1:33:01]ivanka trump in that category of really working to get him to take action and pleading with him to take action
[1:33:12]there was a more neutral group where advisors were trying to toe the line knowing that mr trump didn't necessarily
[1:33:24]want to take immediate action and condemn the riots but knowing something needed to be done and then there was the last group which was
[1:33:36]deflect and blame let's blame antifa these aren't our people it's my understanding that
[1:33:46]mr meadows was in the deflect and blame category but he did end up taking a more neutral route knowing that there were several advisers in
[1:33:56]the president's circle urging him to take more action um which i think was reflected in the rhetoric released later that day in the videos you told us that the white house
[1:34:08]counsel's office was in the camp encouraging the president to tell the writers to stop the attack and to leave the capitol let's listen white house counsel's office wanted there to be a strong statement
[1:34:20]out to condemn the rioters i'm confident in that now let's look at just one example of what some senior advisers to the
[1:34:30]president were urging ms hutchinson could you look at the exhibit that we're showing on the screen now have you seen this note before that's a note that i wrote at the
[1:34:41]direction of the chief of staff on january 6 likely around 3 o'clock and it's written on the chief of staff note card but that's your handwriting ms hutchinson that's my handwriting
[1:34:53]and why did you write this note the chief of staff was in a meeting with eric hershman and potentially mr philbin and they had
[1:35:03]rushed out of the office fairly quickly mark had handed me the note card with one of his pens and started dictating a statement for
[1:35:12]the president to potentially put out and no i'm sorry go ahead that's okay uh there are two phrases on there one illegal and then one without proper
[1:35:23]authority the illegal phrase was the one that mr meadows had dictated to me mr hershman had chimed in and said also put without legal authority
[1:35:34]there should have been a slash between the two phrases it was an or if the president had opted to put one of those statements out evidently he didn't later that afternoon
[1:35:44]mark came back from the oval dining room and put the palm card on my desk with illegally crossed out but said we didn't need to take further
[1:35:54]action on that statement so to your knowledge this statement was never issued it was to my knowledge it was never issued and ms hutchinson did you understand
[1:36:05]that ivanka trump wanted her father to send people home that's my understanding yes let's play a clip of you addressing that issue i remember her saying
[1:36:18]at various points you know she wants him she wanted her dad to send them home she wanted her dad to tell them to go home peacefully and she wanted to include
[1:36:30]language that he necessarily wasn't on board with at the time you will hear more about this at our later hearings but we have evidence of
[1:36:39]many others imploring donald trump and mark meadows to take action here is some of that evidence text messages sent to mark meadows during the attack
[1:36:51]this is a text message at 232 from laura ingram hey mark the president needs to tell people in the capitol to go home in the next message this is hurting all
[1:37:03]of us and then he's destroying his legacy and playing into every stereotype we lose all credibility against the blm antifa
[1:37:12]crowd if things go south the president's son don jr also urgently contacted mark meadows at 253 two of the numerous examples of trump
[1:37:34]supporters and allies urging the president to tell his supporters to leave the capitol it would not have been hard for the president to simply walk down to the
[1:37:45]briefing room a few feet down the hall from the oval office as norah o'donnell noted during an interview with house republican leader kevin mccarthy
[1:37:56]where leader mccarthy said he believed the attack was un-american want to quickly bring in kevin mccarthy the house minority leader leader mccarthy
[1:38:07]do you condemn this violence i completely condemn the violence in the capitol what we're currently watching unfold is un-american
[1:38:17]i am i'm disappointed i'm sad this is not what our country should look like this is not who we are this is not the first amendment this has to stop and this has to stop now
[1:38:28]leader mccarthy the president united states has a briefing room steps from the oval office it is the cameras are hot 24 7 as you know why hasn't he
[1:38:38]walked down and said that now i i conveyed to the president what i think is best to do and i'm hopeful the president will do it republican house member mike gallagher
[1:38:51]also implored the president to call off the attack mr president you have got to stop this you are the
[1:39:01]only person who can call this off call it off the election is over call it off
[1:39:12]this is bigger than you it's bigger than any member of congress it is about the united states of america which is more important than any politician
[1:39:24]call it off it's over despite the fact that many people close to donald trump were urging him to send
[1:39:33]people home he did not do so until later much later at 4 17 p.m donald trump finally told the rioters to go home
[1:39:44]and that he loved them here's a portion of the video president trump recorded from the white house we have to have peace so go home
[1:39:55]we love you you're very special you've seen what happens you see the way others are treated that are so bad and so evil i know how you feel
[1:40:06]but go home and go home in peace but as we will show in even greater detail in future hearings donald trump was reluctant to put this
[1:40:17]message out and he still could not bring himself to condemn the attack ms hutchinson has told us that too one that he put out at 4 17
[1:40:31]um i'm sure you've discussed it just to elaborate if i hadn't already at that point i recall him being reluctant to film the video on the
[1:40:41]six i was not involved in any of the logistics or the planning for that video i just remember seeing the video go out and feeling a little shocked after it
[1:40:51]went out on the evening of january 6 and the day after the president's family and his senior staff and others tried to encourage the president to
[1:41:02]condemn the violence and commit to the peaceful transition of power at 3 31 pm on january 6 sean hannity of
[1:41:11]fox news texted mark meadows mr hannity said quote can he make a statement i saw the tweet ask people to leave the capitol
[1:41:23]later that evening mr hannity sent another text message to mark meadows this time he shared a link to a tweet that tweet reported that president
[1:41:34]trump's cabinet secretaries were considering invoking the 25th amendment to remove president trump from office as you can see on the screen
[1:41:47]the 25th amendment to the constitution creates a process for the transition of power if a president is unfit or unable to serve 25th amendment has never been used to
[1:41:58]remove a president but the committee has learned that after the attack on the u.s capitol this was being discussed by members of president trump's cabinet
[1:42:08]as a way of stripping the full power of the presidency from donald trump president trump's supporters were worried in addition to the tweet that he sent
[1:42:19]mark meadows after the attack sean hannity apparently spoke with president trump and warned him about what could happen we understand that this text message
[1:42:32]that sean hannity sent to kaylee mcaney on january 7th shows what mr hannity said to the president first no more stolen election talk
[1:42:43]second impeachment and 25th amendment are real many people will quit ms hutchinson you told us that you were
[1:42:52]hearing about discussions related to the 25th amendment here's part of what you said mr pompeo reached out to have the conversation with mr meadows in case he
[1:43:04]hadn't heard the discussions amongst cabinet secretaries and from what i understand it was more of a this is what i'm hearing
[1:43:16]i want you to be aware of it but i also think it's worth putting on your radar because you are the chief of staff you're technically the boss of all the cabinet secretaries and you know if
[1:43:26]conversations progress you should be ready to take action on this like i'm concerned for you and your positioning with this yeah reach out to me if you have any questions or like i would be helpful
[1:43:38]with you at all inside the white house the president's advisors including members of his family wanted him to deliver a speech to the country deputy white house counsel pat philbin
[1:43:49]prepared the first draft of what would be the president's remarks on national healing delivered by a pre-taped video on january 7th when he arrived at the white house on
[1:44:00]the 7th mr philbin believed that more needed to be said so he sat down and started writing he shared the draft with pat sipoloni who also believed the president needed
[1:44:12]to say more mr sipoloni agreed with the content as did eric hirschman who reviewed the draft the committee has learned that the president did not agree with the
[1:44:23]substance as drafted and resisted giving a speech at all miss hutchinson do you recall discussions about the president's speech on january 7th
[1:44:33]i do let's listen miss hutcheson to what you told us about that and about the process of crafting those remarks uh i learned from a conversation with
[1:44:44]mark and over here between him and white house counsel and eric hirschman as well that trump didn't necessarily think he needed to do
[1:44:55]anything more on the seventh than what he had already done on the six when he was convinced to put out a video on the
[1:45:09]seventh he i understand that he had a lot of opinions about what the context of that announcement were to entail um i
[1:45:19]had original drafts of the speech where there were several lines that didn't make it in there about prosecuting the rioters or calling them violent he didn't want that in there he wanted
[1:45:29]to put him in that he wanted to potentially pardon them um it was just with the increased emphasis of his mindset at the time which was
[1:45:41]he didn't think they did anything wrong he the people who did something wrong that day or the person who did something wrong that day was mike pence by not standing with him
[1:45:52]but the president's advisers urged him to give the speech who convinced him to do the video on the seventh i'm not sure
[1:46:03]who convinced him if it was a group of people that convinced him who was in the group that you're aware of that i'm aware of mark ivanka
[1:46:14]jared kushner um eric hershman pasaboloni pat philbin those are people that i'm aware of
[1:46:26]do you know why that group of people thought it was necessary for him to release a statement i believe kelly mcinerney as well um
[1:46:36]from what i understood at the time and from what the reports were coming in there's a large concern of
[1:46:48]the 25th amendment potentially being invoked and there were concerns about what would happen in the senate if it was if the 25th was invoked so the primary reason that i had heard
[1:46:59]other than you know we did not do enough on the six we need to get a stronger message out there and condemn this this otherwise this will be your legacy the secondary reason to that was think about what might happen in the
[1:47:11]final 15 days of your presidency if we don't do this there's already talks about invoking the 25th amendment you need this as cover the president ultimately delivered the remarks
[1:47:21]unlike many of his other speeches he did not ad-lib much he recited them without significant alteration except one even then
[1:47:32]on january 7th 2021 the day after the attack on the u.s capitol the president still could not bring himself to say quote but this election is now
[1:47:43]over one other point about the speech ms hutchinson did you hear that mr trump at one point wanted to add language about pardoning those who took part in the
[1:47:53]january 6 riot i did hear that and i understand that mr that mr meadows was encouraging that language as well thank you and here's what you told us
[1:48:04]previously about that you said he was instructed not to include it who was instructing him not to include language about the pardon in that january 7th i understood from white
[1:48:15]house counsel's office coming to our office that morning that they didn't think that it was a good idea to include that in the speech that being patent bologna that's correct and eric hershman miss hutchinson
[1:48:29]did rudy giuliani ever suggest that he was interested in receiving a presidential pardon related to january 6th he did miss hutcheson
[1:48:40]did white house chief of staff mark meadows ever indicate that he was interested in receiving a presidential pardon related to january 6th mr meadows did seek that pardon yes
[1:48:50]ma'am thank you miss hutchinson mr chairman i yield back i want to thank our witness for joining us today
[1:49:01]the members of the select committee may have additional questions for today's witness and we ask that you respond expeditiously in writing to those questions
[1:49:11]without objections members will be permitted 10 business days to submit statements for the record including opening remarks and additional questions for the witness
[1:49:22]without objection the chair recognized the vice chair for a closing statement thank you very much mr chairman i want to begin by thanking ms hutchinson for her testimony today we
[1:49:34]are all in her debt our nation is preserved by those who abide by their oaths to our constitution our nation is preserved by those who
[1:49:45]know the fundamental difference between right and wrong and i want all americans to know that what ms hutchinson has done today is not easy the easy course is to hide from the
[1:49:57]spotlight to refuse to come forward to attempt to downplay or deny what happened that brings me to a different topic
[1:50:08]while our committee has seen many witnesses including many republicans testify fully and forthrightly this has not been true of every witness
[1:50:19]and we have received evidence of one particular practice that raises significant concern our committee commonly asks witnesses
[1:50:29]connected to mr trump's administration or campaign whether they've been contacted by any of their former colleagues or anyone else who attempted to influence or impact
[1:50:40]their testimony without identifying any of the individuals involved let me show you a couple of samples of answers we received to this question
[1:50:52]first here's how one witness described phone calls from people interested in that witness's testimony quote what they said to me is as long as
[1:51:03]i continue to be a team player they know i'm on the right team i'm doing the right thing i'm protecting who i need to protect you know i'll continue to stay in good
[1:51:14]graces in trump world and they have reminded me a couple of times that trump does read transcripts and just keep that in mind as i proceed
[1:51:25]through my interviews with the committee here's another sample in a different context this is a call received by one of our witnesses
[1:51:37]quote a person let me know you have your deposition tomorrow he wants me to let you know he's thinking about you he knows you're loyal and you're going to do the right thing
[1:51:48]when you go in for your deposition i think most americans know that attempting to influence witnesses to testify untruthfully
[1:51:58]presents very serious concerns we will be discussing these issues as a committee carefully considering our next steps
[1:52:07]mr chairman thank you i yield back general woman yields back ms hutchinson thank you thank you for doing your patriotic duty
[1:52:18]and helping the american people get a complete understanding of january 6th and its causes thank you for your courage in testifying
[1:52:28]here today you have the gratitude of this committee and your country i know it wasn't easy to sit here today and answer these questions
[1:52:40]but after hearing your testimony in all his candor in detail i want to speak directly to the handful of witnesses who have been outliers in our
[1:52:50]investigation the small number who have defied us outright those whose memories have failed them again
[1:53:02]and again on the most important details and to those who fear donald trump and his enablers because of this courageous woman and
[1:53:13]others like her you attempt to hide the truth from the american people will fail and to that group of witnesses
[1:53:22]if you've heard this testimony today and suddenly you remember things you couldn't previously recall or there are some details you'd like to clarify
[1:53:34]or you discovered some courage you had hidden away somewhere our doors remain open the select committee will reconvene in the weeks ahead
[1:53:45]as we continue to lay out our findings to the american people the chair requests those in the hearing room to remain seated until the capitol police have escorted
[1:53:56]the witness and members from the room without objection the committed stands are joined and you have been watching gavel the
[1:54:09]gavel coverage here of today's a january sixth hearing the big one right here as we were listening to witness testimony from the former aide
[1:54:19]to mark meadows who is the chief of staff at the time during the january 6 riots you're watching live now from fox everyone we always appreciate you
[1:54:29]joining us here worldwide to bring you the very top stories and headlines from across the country i'm your host mike face that is uh continuing to be guiding
[1:54:39]you uh through this uh committee hearing here that just as yesterday we didn't know that this was going to happen until the afternoon yesterday
[1:54:50]where they said that they were going to have another hearing there wasn't another one expected to be until sometime in july because right now they do have a recess july 4 recess
[1:55:02]going on right now in congress but they wanted to bring this one to the attention of americans here and what i want to do is just play out some of the very many highlights from today's
[1:55:13]hearing we want to go back to uh near the beginning just in case some of you might have missed the beginning or the middle and wanted to show you some of those highlights talking about the
[1:55:25]timeline of threats that were happening before january 6 the days leading up to this speech that was going to be made by
[1:55:35]president trump let's listen us about reports of violence and weapons that the secret service were receiving
[1:55:47]on the night of january 5th and throughout the day on january 6th is that correct that's correct there are reports that police in washington d.c had arrested several
[1:55:57]people with firearms or ammunition following a separate pro-trump rally in freedom plaza on the evening of january 5th are those some of the reports that you recall hearing about
[1:56:08]they are of course the world now knows that the people who attacked the capital on january 6th had many different types of weapons
[1:56:18]when a president speaks the secret service typically required closed area for president trump's speech were screened so they could attend the rally at the ellipse they had weapons and other items that
[1:56:30]were confiscated pepper spray knives brass knuckles tasers body armor gas masks batons blunt weapons and those were just from the people who
[1:56:42]chose to go through the security for the president's event on the ellipse not the several thousand members of the crowd who refused to go through the mags and watched from the lawn near the
[1:56:52]washington monument the select committee has learned about reports from outside the magnetometers and has obtained police radio transmissions
[1:57:02]identifying individuals with firearms including ar-15s near the ellipse on the morning of january 6th let's listen there's an individual who's in a tree
[1:57:18]maybe a white male about 6 feet tall 10 build brown cowboy boots he's got blue jeans and a blue jean jacket and underneath the hoodie jacket the
[1:57:28]complainants both saw a stock with ar-15 you can be with a group of individuals about five to eight five to eight other individuals two of the individuals in that group at the base of
[1:57:40]the tree near the portal bodies were wearing green fatigues green olive trash thousands of these about five eight five nine skinny uh skinny white males brown cowboy boots
[1:57:51]they had glock smile pistols in their waistband 87-36 with the message that subject weapon on his right hip
[1:58:00]how that he is in the tree motor one make sure ppd knows they have an elevated threat in the tree south side of constitution avenue look for the don't tread on me flag
[1:58:12]american flag face mask cowboy boots weapon on the right right side hip i got three men walking down the street fatigue will carry ar 15 coffee and
[1:58:23]fourth people independent ar-15s at 14th and independence
[1:58:33]as you saw in those emails the first report that we showed we now know was sent in the 8 o'clock hour on january 6th this talked about people in the crowd
[1:58:43]wearing ballistic helmets and body armor carrying radio equipment and military-grade backpacks the second report we showed you on the screen was sent by the secret service in
[1:58:53]the 11am hour and it addressed reports of a man with a rifle near the ellipse ms hutchinson in prior testimony you described for us a meeting in the white
[1:59:03]house around 10 a.m in the morning of january 6th involving chief of staff meadows and tony ornato were you in that meeting i was let's listen to your testimony about
[1:59:14]that meeting and then we'll have some questions i think the last time we talked you mentioned that some of the weapons that people had
[1:59:24]at the rally included flagpoles oversized um sticks or flagpoles bear spray is there anything else that you recall
[1:59:35]hearing about the people who would gather on your lips hat i recall tony and i having a conversation with mark probably around 10 am
[1:59:46]10 15 am where i remember tony mentioning knives guns in the form of pistols and rifles
[1:59:56]um bear spray body armor spears and flagpoles spears were one item flag poles were one item but then tony had relayed to me something to the effect of
[2:00:08]and these i think people are fascinating spheres onto the ends of flagpoles miss hutchinson here's a clip of your testimony regarding mr meadow's response
[2:00:18]to learning that the rally attendees were armed that day what was mark's reaction mr meadow's reaction to
[2:00:29]this list of weapons that people had in the crowd when tony and i went in to talk to mark that morning mark was sitting on his couch and on his phone which was something typical and i remember tony just got right into it i
[2:00:40]was like sorry i just want to let you know and informed him like this is how many people we have outside the mags right now these are the weapons that were known to have it's possible he listed more weapons off that i just don't recall
[2:00:52]um and gave him a brief but inconcise explanation but also fairly fairly thorough and i remember
[2:01:03]distinctly mark not looking up from his phone i remembered tony finishing his explanation and it taking a few seconds for mark to
[2:01:14]say something to the point where i almost said mark did you hear him um and then bark chimed in i was like
[2:01:24]alright anything else still looking down at his phone and tony looked at me and i looked at tony and he said no sir do you have any questions
[2:01:34]he's like what are you hearing and i looked at tony and i was like sir he just told you about what was happening down at the rallies and he was like yeah i know and then he looked up and said
[2:01:44]have you talked to the president and tony said yes sir he's aware too all right good he asked tony if tony had informed the president yes and tony said
[2:01:54]yes he had so ms hutchinson is it your understanding that mr ornato told the president about weapons at the rally on the morning of january 6th that's what
[2:02:05]mr renato relayed to me and here's how you characterize mr meadow's general response when people raised concerns about what could happen
[2:02:14]on january 6th so at the time in the days leading up to the six there were lots of public reports about how things might go bad on the sex even the potential for
[2:02:26]violence if i'm hearing you correctly what stands out to you is that mr meadows did not share those concerns or at least did not act on those concerns
[2:02:35]did not act on those concerns would be accurate but other people raised him to to him like in this exchange you mentioned that this tornado pulled them aside that's
[2:02:46]correct ms hutchinson we're going to show now an exchange of texts between you and deputy chief of staff ornato
[2:02:56]and these text messages were exchanged while you were at the ellipse in one text you write but the crowd looks good from this vantage point as
[2:03:08]long as we get the shot he was effing furious and the text messages also stress that president trump kept mentioning the otr and off the record movement we're going
[2:03:19]to come back and ask you about that in a minute but could you tell us first of all who it is in the text who was furious the he in that text that i was referring to was the president
[2:03:30]and uh why was he furious miss hutchinson he was furious because he wanted the arena that we had on the ellipse to be maxed out at capacity for
[2:03:42]uh all attendees the advanced team had relayed to him that the mags were free-flowing everybody who wanted to come in had already come in but he still was angry about the extra
[2:03:54]space and wanted more people to come in and did you go to the rally in the presidential motorcade i was there yes
[2:04:02]in the motor game and were you backstage with the president and other members of his staff and family i was and you told us miss hutchinson about
[2:04:12]particular comments that you heard while you were in the tent area when we were in the offstage announce
[2:04:23]area tent behind the stage he was very concerned about the shot meaning the photograph that we would get because the rally space wasn't full um
[2:04:34]one of the reasons which i've previously stated was because he wanted it to be full and for people to not feel excluded because they'd come far to watch him at the rally
[2:04:46]and he felt the mags are at fault for not letting everybody in but another leading reason and likely the primary reason is because he wanted it full and he was angry at that we weren't letting
[2:04:57]people through the mags with weapons what the secret service deemed his weapons and our our weapons but when we were in the offstage announced tent
[2:05:08]i was part of a conversation i was in the i was in the vicinity of a conversation where i overheard the president say something's the effect of you know i don't even care that they have weapons
[2:05:18]they're not here to hurt me take that f mags away let my people in they can march the capital from here let the people in take the effing mags away just to be clear miss hutchinson is it
[2:05:32]your understanding and that was just some of the highlights uh from just moments ago at the january sixth hearing there that featured a
[2:05:43]former aide of mark meadows the chief of staff to then uh president trump uh during the tumultuous time there in early january hi everyone mike base here thanks so much for joining us here today
[2:05:55]as we uh as always bring you gavel the gavel coverage of these special committee hearings and we've been featuring it for you for quite some time and we just wanted to show you just some
[2:06:05]of the many many highlights as well but i want to bring in our guest here to help us provide even more insight to about what we heard and what we will continue to hear in uh
[2:06:17]future hearings so let's bring in our guest for this hour it is uh randy zellen he is a criminal defense attorney as well as adjunct professor of law at
[2:06:28]cornell we appreciate you joining us here on live down from fox thank you for having me no problem all right so today uh what was the day that we heard from uh testimony from the
[2:06:40]former aide here and i i would just like to get your uh insight from when we're hearing from from the aid here uh talk about things that she may have
[2:06:52]heard or things that she heard maybe of the the former president speaking isn't that uh hearsay and how how is that being talked about
[2:07:02]well if we're going to get legally technical and remember we are not in that setting we're not in a courtroom where the rules of evidence
[2:07:12]and the rules of procedure apply but even if we were yes any out of court statement which is offered for the truth of the matter asserted is what we called
[2:07:21]here is what we call hearsay and the system does not like hearsay because you can't cross-examine the person who's saying what someone
[2:07:32]else said because you can't cross-examine the ultimate speaker however there are exceptions to hearsay it's all about reliability so for example sometimes a statement is not
[2:07:44]hearsay if it's not necessarily offered for the truth but it's offered to show someone's state of mind for example if i were to yell out right now on your show that i'm really
[2:07:55]napoleon um or even better not that i'm napoleon but mark meadows uh said he was napoleon then
[2:08:06]it may not necessarily be offered for the truth of the matter asserted but for mark meadows state of mind there are times when we say something in an excited moment we call that an excited
[2:08:16]utterance again that's got reliability to it the person who's saying it doesn't have the time to make something up so yes there's hearsay then there are exceptions to hear say an admission
[2:08:28]if i were to admit that i had done something wrong that would be that would not fall under the hearsay exception again it's an admission against my own self-interest but without
[2:08:39]getting too technical we're not in court so hearsay doesn't matter but what does matter and always matters is the witnesses credibility and and since we are so polarized now as a country there
[2:08:51]are those people who believe that january 6 was an atrocity and that uh people from the president on down should be punished for that
[2:09:02]those people who feel that way will find ms hutchinson to be entirely credible those who believe that this is a witch hunt uh and finds her to be incredible
[2:09:12]of course the only way to break that tie is going to be whether or not the january 6th committee can provide corroboration other evidence to support
[2:09:23]what miss hutchinson is saying was told to her what she saw what she heard what went on randy i think that uh he has a great
[2:09:33]insight right there and thank you for continuing uh to tell our uh just viewers of about the legal ramifications uh coming from this and a lot of people also want to know okay so once all of
[2:09:45]these hearings are over with they're they're uh expected to be concluded uh next month sometime but what will the next steps be for uh
[2:09:55]the doj if they want to get involved and pursue criminal matters well certainly one would think
[2:10:05]that the department of justice has already been made aware and is not hearing things for the first time as part of their own investigation into
[2:10:17]january 6. this committee of course is not a prosecuting agency they have no authority to prosecute they have no authority to file charges but certainly
[2:10:28]the evidence that they are gathering in the evidence that they have gathered will certainly one would think be provided to law enforcement for law
[2:10:38]enforcement to determine whether or not it is appropriate to file criminal charges so i would think that as closely as you and i and your viewers
[2:10:49]are paying uh and the close side that all of us are paying to the january 6th hearings we would like to think that the department of justice is doing so as well and the
[2:11:00]justice department is in close contact with the select committee and information is being provided so that in fact the determination can be made by
[2:11:11]the department of justice if in fact there is probable cause to believe that crimes were committed arising out of arising in connection with and of course
[2:11:21]with regard to the events leading up to january 6. and let's all also uh talk about uh for then president trump but during this
[2:11:31]time he was giving the speech he was treating it like a like a speech that he normally would give at some of his big rallies they go anywhere from an hour to
[2:11:42]90 minutes and he's known to really just speak uh off the cuff and speak his mind there and that's my question to you if if someone is just feeling the saying the things that they
[2:11:53]feel at the time uh to to think that uh in in his words there that the election was stolen and uh is that okay for him just to say what he
[2:12:04]feels at the time and on his mind and how can they turn maybe that those thinkings into maybe something
[2:12:11]more criminal in nature down the line one of the most challenging aspects of a criminal prosecution
[2:12:21]is establishing intent particularly when we are being asked to look at someone's state of mind what someone's intent was what someone's
[2:12:32]objective was because invariably just about all crimes require intent and require bad intent require
[2:12:41]criminal contempt a criminal intent that was a freudian slip when we talk about contempt but i think what you're what you're getting to
[2:12:53]is if then president trump truly believed that the election had been stolen from him
[2:13:02]could he then have formed the criminal intent to create this ground swell this mob this
[2:13:14]insurrection this this attempt to overthrow as some people might argue our government to overturn the results of of
[2:13:25]a fair and legitimate election does it rise to the level of sedition does it rise to the level of obstruction of justice and that perhaps
[2:13:36]may be the 64 billion dollar question what was president trump's intent if he truly believed that the election had been stolen from him could he have
[2:13:46]formed the criminal intent to gather up this mob in an effort to overthrow the results of the election and then of course equally interesting
[2:13:57]is even if he believed that the election had been stolen from him could he still have the criminal intent to have
[2:14:07]tried to overturn the results of the election nonetheless i think what very much of what's going on here with the january six committee is an effort to establish it no president trump
[2:14:19]had in fact no belief that the election had been stolen from him certainly had no reasonable belief that the election had been stolen from him as everyone from
[2:14:30]the attorney general sideways up and down was basically telling him that the there was no evidence to suggest that the election had been taken from him and then of course we have the other
[2:14:41]allegations of fake electors to replace the legitimate electors so what we're talking about here is the select committee building evidence upon evidence they're
[2:14:51]essentially constructing a house right now and they are trying to create as firm a foundation as they possibly can for this house because of course the republicans are going to say it's a
[2:15:02]house of cards um and the temp the democrats are going to say that this is a house made out of brick and mortar and
[2:15:11]steel um and not even superman could knock this house down you're making some great points there uh randy and i also want to talk about how
[2:15:22]uh uh er earlier today in in the conversation that we uh that we're having here talking about uh how you said you know we live in such a divided
[2:15:32]country right now where it's either you're you're either a trump supporter or you're not a trump supporter and there's really nothing really in the middle right now but uh
[2:15:42]going forward here um what do you think like trump aides that may have not uh participated yet in in in any of the
[2:15:53]uh depositions what do you think they're thinking at this very moment that had some close contact with the president uh especially during during before and
[2:16:02]after january 6th perhaps prayer uh we are seeing evidence that
[2:16:12]very very important very powerful elected officials we're running for cover we're running for pardons
[2:16:22]we are seeing those who refuse to comply with subpoenas being held in contempt and being brought up on criminal charges
[2:16:33]this is no joke it may very well be that this country is so polarized and in fact there are people who would argue that uh attorney general barr was paid
[2:16:43]off to say that there was no evidence of the election having been stolen that ivanka trump had a stand-in or had been
[2:16:53]cloned and it wasn't her that actually said that she had no reason to disbelieve what attorney general barr had said about the election not being stolen
[2:17:05]there will be those that say oh january 6 that was just a a peaceful exchange of uh ideas and was basically just a walking tour that uh just got heated
[2:17:16]because listen we live in a democratic society and people are entitled to speak their minds it it this isn't even watergate even back in watergate there were republicans whether
[2:17:28]they were republicans or democrats who just saw things for what they were it walked like a duck it cracked like a duck it was a duck here it's almost as
[2:17:38]if there is no longer any objective truth and that every person that you disagree with is a liar
[2:17:47]and every person that you agree with is brilliant and there is no longer the ability to look at one's watch and say we can all agree it is 3
[2:17:58]18 or 3 19 p.m eastern time there will be those that will say no that's not true that clock has been rigged and this is a
[2:18:08]witch hunt and that truly is the scary thing we are almost like russian right now where russians have actually gone on record to say oh the people who died in
[2:18:18]ukraine that was staged they weren't actually killed oh that shopping center no that shopping center there was no one in the shopping center when we when we
[2:18:28]dropped missiles on it oh and that other place that we we dropped missiles on no no that was really a weapons that was really a weapons factory that is how
[2:18:39]just how polarized how divided how this country is is simply tearing itself apart absolutely absolutely and randy i thought another
[2:18:50]very very interesting part here of the testimony that we heard from the former aid there to mark meadows talking about
[2:19:02]really as the riots were happening in the in the hours that were after it as uh the testimony showed that many of the cabinet members were
[2:19:12]thinking about invoking the 25th amendment to pull uh presidential powers from donald trump i mean that right there is just crazy in its all itself to
[2:19:22]be even thinking about that very moment but that will seem like a real possibility this is the piecing together and and let's take a step back
[2:19:34]and remember that a trial is about disputed facts what we have here right now is a hearing over
[2:19:45]disputed facts but to your point we are seeing evidence that those in the know we're thinking about the 25th amendment
[2:19:56]we now see evidence from someone on the inside 25 years old or not an aide or not who was talking in painstaking detail about
[2:20:08]the build up and what was happening and the panic that was beginning to ensue and how she's running around like a chicken with her head cut off trying to get even chief of staff meadows
[2:20:19]attention who was too busy on the phone perhaps talking to the president closing the door on her face twice and then when she finally can get his attention his only concern is when is the president's
[2:20:30]speech going to be over um chief of staff meadows talking about really really bad things happening um and then rudy giuliani being excited and what a show of power is going to be and
[2:20:41]of course just it is difficult to imagine in in this day and time and in this age the president of the united states
[2:20:50]cursing um as to how his people and that will come back to haunt president trump if in fact it's true his people are not going to hurt him well then who
[2:21:01]are they going to hurt and that cursing and talking about yeah let them bring their guns in they're not going to hurt me trying to grab the steering wheel when he was enraged that he was not
[2:21:12]going to be brought over to the capitol it's those pieces of evidence that this country needs to pay attention to and for those of you who don't want to believe to say so of miss hutchinson
[2:21:24]i'll bet you i'll bet you there's corroborating evidence coming right around the corner and at what point in fact
[2:21:33]are we all looking at the same duck and lastly here randy the end game uh like i said july is going to be when this all wraps up if everything goes to
[2:21:43]schedule who knows there might be an august a surprise there but at this moment here when this wraps up next month where are we looking as far as
[2:21:54]congress can only do so much we like like you said can they try to pass something where uh president trump cannot run again for office or
[2:22:06]do they just wait for a possible doj indictment i would say the latter i only hope that by the time that comes around
[2:22:17]we still have some semblance of a country because every day it seems to be something else that is further tearing us apart
[2:22:27]certainly i think uh it would behoove congress to let events now unfold to let those in charge of enforcing the laws
[2:22:39]do that enforcement and as water finds its own level no matter what i think congress should be in the
[2:22:49]business of assembling the evidence compiling the proof and then turn it over to the professionals whose job it is to determine whether or not that
[2:23:00]proof rises to the level of a criminal prosecution it will be uh really uh something to see there it this whole uh hearing process
[2:23:09]the the amount of uh time is spent here just feels like a you know a snowball that continues to be growing right now and uh we know that there is more coming and uh right here on live now from fox
[2:23:21]we will have continuing uh coverage when that happens but thank you uh so much uh randy for for coming on and really giving and offering up your insight for breaking down all of today's uh big
[2:23:32]news that came and there was a lot of it that came today from this hearing so we really appreciate it thank you for having me no problem and uh of course we will continue to always bring you top stories and headlines from
[2:23:44]across the country right here on live now from fox i think it's a perfect time to take a quick two minute break stay right here with us we have some other breaking news that we want to get to you
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[2:25:56]welcome back everyone here to live now from fox breaking news continues right here as galen maxwell was sentenced today to 20 years in prison for procuring teenage girls to be sexually
[2:26:07]abused by late financer jeffrey epstein and calling him a manipulative cunning and controlling man a jury found maxwell guilty back in
[2:26:17]december after a month-long trial of recruiting and grooming teenage girls for sexual encounters with her in epstein between 1994 and 2004 at the
[2:26:27]late billionaires mansions and estates in manhattan new mexico florida in the virgin islands before the sentence was handed down maxwell addressed the court
[2:26:38]saying i believe that jeffrey epstein was a manipulative cunning and controlling man who lived a profoundly compartmentalized life and filled all of
[2:26:48]those in his orbit epstein a convicted pedophile killed himself at 66 in his jail cell in 2019 while awaiting trial on a sex
[2:26:57]trafficking indictment maxwell then turned and spoke directly to many of her victims who were seated in the gallery saying i am sorry for the pain that you experienced she said i hope my
[2:27:08]conviction and harsh incarceration brings you closure and uh just happening moments ago attorneys representing the victims spoke
[2:27:19]right outside of the courthouse i want to bring that to you right here on live now from fox sorry i'm sigrid mccauley i'm annie farmer's attorney today was a towering
[2:27:30]day sorry i'm sigrid mccauley i'm annie
[2:27:43]farmer's attorney today was a towering day for justice as we saw gillian maxwell was sentenced to 20 years in prison for the crimes she
[2:27:54]committed against these survivors and so many others today showed us that individuals can be held accountable
[2:28:04]irrespective of power and privilege and today showed us that the chorus of voices of these survivors prevailed and showed accountability
[2:28:15]it's really a victorious day for justice and on behalf of all the survivors we've represented we want to thank the prosecutors for their fierce and relentless pursuit of justice here
[2:28:26]we want to thank the judge for being just and true and thoughtful and we want to thank all of you for never stopping and continuing to pursue this story and make sure that their
[2:28:37]voices were heard so now annie's going to make a few statements uh i think they can probably speak to that but um personally for me that was
[2:28:48]not an apology she once again did not acknowledge her crimes did not take responsibility for them in any way so that was really disappointing may this sentence demonstrate that it is
[2:29:02]never too late for the truth to come out and never too late for there to be accountability if you're someone who's experienced sexual abuse or exploitation and did not feel safe to report those crimes
[2:29:14]or were not believed when you did or were told that the perpetrators would not be held accountable this is for you there's still a lot of work to be done on this issue but in this fight we need to celebrate
[2:29:25]the victories and today this is a big victory the truths about these crimes about child sexual abuse and exploitation are deeply uncomfortable they happen more
[2:29:36]frequently than we want to acknowledge and often perpetrators as we saw in this case are not strangers and vans they're the people that live in our communities and they're people often in positions of
[2:29:47]power maxwell and epstein were predators who were able to use that power and privilege to harm countless individuals and for far too long the institutions that
[2:29:58]should be protecting the public were instead protecting them and i still hope that we find out more about how that was allowed to occur we know that historically though that
[2:30:08]this has happened in many organizations and many institutions that predators are protected in you know in churches in political
[2:30:18]groups in the foster care system and so i just hope that this sentence can be another sign that voices are coming together and saying no more if you commit these crimes you will be
[2:30:30]punished if you facilitate these crimes you will be punished if you are a bystander that looks the other way you will not be allowed to continue to hold a position of power it's easy to focus on the darkness in
[2:30:43]the case like this but i also think it's important to highlight all the people that have worked so hard to bring the truth to light and i want to start by expressing my
[2:30:53]gratitude and appreciation for my sister maria farmer who reported these crimes over decades ago and has so bravely continued to try and bring attention and
[2:31:04]fight for justice in this case for all for the other women who support who spoke in the courtroom i am so grateful for the other survivor
[2:31:15]sisters that i have met on this journey who have worked so hard to make this happen i am incredibly grateful this would not have happened without so many voices coming together
[2:31:24]i am so incredibly grateful for my team of attorneys most especially sigrid mccauley who has gone above and beyond at every step of the way to support us
[2:31:34]and encourage us that this could happen for brad edwards and his team for the for the media who were you know really i think continued to tell the
[2:31:46]story and try and bring attention to this case to uh the agents who worked so hard and dedicated themselves these last few years to the maxwell case and to the
[2:31:56]fierce team of prosecutors who took a chance to bring this to trial and to show that she could be held accountable for this heinous penis scheme
[2:32:06]so how do you feel speaking in court and uh it actually felt very powerful to finally have a chance to speak and and you know have my voice on the record uh
[2:32:18]and say the things that i wanted to say about how her crimes had impacted the people in fact of myself and the people that that i know and care about annie how did you feel listening to her
[2:32:28]in court uh just i'll just say one more thing that yeah her her statement felt like a very hollow apology to me it she did not take responsibility for the crimes that she committed and it felt
[2:32:39]like once more her trying to do something to benefit her uh and not at all about the harm that she had caused it's 20 years long enough
[2:32:48]i'm very happy thank you thank you so everyone thanks for uh
[2:33:00]yeah i'm brad edwards and over the course of the last almost 15 years i've represented over 60 of jeffrey epstein's victims brad edwards
[2:33:10]and this is a major victory not just for annie farmer and kate and some of the others who spoke today but also for the dozens of other victims i'm not only
[2:33:21]involved in this sex trafficking operation but that are being trafficked worldwide i think that it sends a really powerful message to conform with the law and to be
[2:33:31]deterred from engaging in any form of conduct like this whether you are the facilitator groomer perpetrator whoever you are nobody is above the law and i think
[2:33:42]that's the message that everybody understands very loud and clear today i think our system works it took a long long time longer than we wanted it to but today is a good and positive day and tells us that our country's still intact
[2:33:54]and our system it really has worked the right way um bill clinton how about bill clinton look there there's a lot of people that have a lot of information we've said for a
[2:34:04]long time they know things and they should be speaking and the time is now and if they're continuing to not speak they're hurting victims they're hurting survivors they're not helping so we could sit here and yell out names of a
[2:34:15]lot of people who have a lot of power and prestige and they hide behind that and instead don't come forward and just do the right thing like a normal good human being there there are people that are coward and and i wish that they would come forward
[2:34:27]and maybe that's one of them i do think that some people who have not been acknowledged today such as courtney wilde this doesn't happen without her virginia roberts it doesn't happen
[2:34:38]without her maria farmer it doesn't happen without her sarah ransom doesn't happen without her it took a team of survivors very courageous people who
[2:34:48]sacrificed their lives their privacy their children in order to see that justice was done for jeffrey epstein and for gilan maxwell some of whom just can't be here today
[2:34:59]but there's many many that that deserve recognition in addition to the lawyers and this wonderful judge who issued a very deliberate and fair decision on the
[2:35:10]bench just now um and in fact helene max was very lucky because she was prosecuted for a very distinct set of crimes and there were many other crimes out there and many other victims that she could have been charged with so on a
[2:35:22]very conservative indictment she's giving 20 years so that doesn't sound lucky but in the course of scope of what she did it is do you think that's impressed i can't imagine that anyone was
[2:35:37]impressed by guillen maxwell's statement it was probably the closest thing she's ever come to acknowledgement of anything in her life but it was passive acknowledgement she acknowledged somebody else's pain but not that she
[2:35:49]caused it and obviously she was the perpetrator of the crime to think that she's being charged for something that jeffrey epstein did is arrogant in and of itself she was charged with the crimes she
[2:35:59]committed and only a fraction of them there are other people that should be held accountable i can't talk a whole
[2:36:09]lot about that but um i don't think that this is over if it's over from a criminal perspective it's not over from a civil perspective so we will keep pushing forward until the whole range of people are known what they did and what
[2:36:20]they didn't do the government prosecutes them that'll be great thanks everybody you're watching live now from fox
[2:36:33]everybody we are going to take a quick two minute break stay right here with us we'll have more coverage from outside of the courthouse in just moments [Music]
[2:38:04][Music] we're good close all right
[2:38:56]right folks out of respect for all of you and your patients during all of this i am going to make a brief statement but i am not taking any questions so those
[2:39:06]are the rules of engagement we have resisted speaking to you throughout the tendency of this case
[2:39:16]out of respect for the rules of the court but as you can see now the mask is off our client Ghislaine Maxwell
[2:39:28]has been vilified pilloried and it left little room for her to be treated fairly because even before she stepped forward
[2:39:40]into this courthouse she was being tried and convicted in the court of public opinion glenn will appeal this case
[2:39:53]and we are confident that she will prevail on appeal we all know that the person
[2:40:03]who should have been sentenced today escaped accountability avoided his victims
[2:40:12]avoided absorbing their pain and receiving the punishment he truly deserved
[2:40:22]clever and cunning to the end jeffrey epstein left Ghislaine Maxwell
[2:40:30]holding the whole bag Ghislaine Maxwell should never have been denied bail she has endured
[2:40:41]the most unusual and severe conditions of pre-trial detention in solitary confinement we recognize that the public at large
[2:40:56]has little sympathy or compassion for inmates that of course is until they themselves or members of their families have
[2:41:06]brushes with the law and find themselves in the midst and thrust into the criminal justice system
[2:41:16]galen's treatment for 22 months in solitary confinement and recently again was abhorrent
[2:41:27]the conditions in the mdc even mentioned by the judge are reprehensible
[2:41:37]for those of you in the press if you need a story if you want a story there is your lead
[2:41:47]i urge you to run with it Ghislaine Maxwell is a truly extraordinary person she has been sentenced
[2:41:58]to an extremely long term of imprisonment for a 60 year old woman who has shown no involvement whatsoever
[2:42:10]in criminal activity for the better part of the past 20 years or anything before the conduct of conviction
[2:42:21]she has been incredibly strong to endure the daily vilification and mistreatment it has been my personal and professional
[2:42:36]privilege to have represented Ghislaine Maxwell and i want to thank her family and her personal attorney
[2:42:47]for their unfailing support of her we thank all the people who have expressed outrage
[2:42:56]by her situation and that is all i have to say so thank you again's decision to speak in court i thought her statement
[2:43:07]was moving and on point and as everyone should know that anybody who is appealing their
[2:43:18]sentence has the right to maintain the record and the issues on appeal kevin you're speaking yes
[2:43:33]and so just uh to say that we have nothing and to add to the very heartfelt statement that gilen gave in court and nothing to add to the comments that
[2:43:44]she made about the victims and her sincere hope that the trial her conviction and this sentencing will allow the victims some
[2:43:56]closure and just to echo what bobby sternheim has said gilen will be exercising her right to appeal her conviction and sentence and we the
[2:44:09]family will be solidly behind her all the way thank you very much you're watching live now from fox everybody so that is the latest there
[2:44:20]from right outside of the courthouse where just moments ago uh galen maxwell sentenced to 20 years in prison you're watching live now from fox everybody we are going to take
[2:44:30]another quick two minute break here when we come back we are taking you out to san antonio texas getting an update on the dozens and dozens of migrants that
[2:44:39]were found dead inside of a truck yesterday we'll have the very latest details coming up live in a live news conference right here on live now from
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[2:46:50]welcome back everyone here to live now from fox taking you out to san antonio getting an update now we have a new number there unfortunately of the number of migrants found dead inside of a truck
[2:47:00]in san antonio that number has now risen by one to 51. let's listen right here on live now from fox who have died
[2:47:10]our medical examiner's office has carried a heavy load over the last few weeks from the uvalde victims and now today we have reached out to neighboring
[2:47:23]counties for assistance from their medical examiner's offices also as of one o'clock very sad to report that we the medical
[2:47:35]examiners also has 51 bodies 12 women they have potentially id'd 34 of them i'm not only angry
[2:47:49]about what occurred yesterday but my heart also mourns for the families who have lost their loved ones the governor of the great state of texas
[2:47:59]has once again politicized this horrific tragedy by taking to twitter and placing the blame on others for his failures
[2:48:10]while bodies were still being removed and others being taken to local hospitals he chose to be heartless and point the finger
[2:48:19]shame on our governor his words were also a complete contradiction to state that this tragedy was due to open border policies if there was such a policy as
[2:48:31]open borders we wouldn't have had over 50 human lives trying to enter this country the way they did we wouldn't be mourning the deaths of so
[2:48:41]many people who were simply seeking a better life i can't imagine being in another country and waiting to get a call from a loved one who's been
[2:48:52]traveling for weeks or months to hear if they've arrived at their destination safely and then to see the news of this tragedy here in their county instead
[2:49:03]we are not certain of all the countries where the victims are from but i have spoken with the walaman consul general and they are working to get information from the hospitals for their citizens
[2:49:14]we're also working with the consulates of mexico honduras and el salvador if you have a family member that you fear could be one of the victims you can
[2:49:26]call the watermelon consulate at 956-800-7351 gracias
[2:50:15]well thank you the inscription on our statue of liberty says give me your tithe your poor
[2:50:26]and your huddled masses yearning to breathe free and our nation was built on the backs of poor immigrants and made
[2:50:36]us a great nation today today we mourn for those 51 immigrants who came to us
[2:50:46]to breathe that fresh air but instead found death in the state of texas suffering in a van or trailer
[2:50:56]from heat exhaustion it's a terrible way for us to treat immigrants the state of texas
[2:51:06]has done just about everything wrong that i can think of they participate in building a wall which does nothing to protect our border they have spent billions of our
[2:51:18]taxpayers dollars state taxpayers dollars on paying for the texas national guard at the border and they throw innocent people those that just
[2:51:28]lost their lives just like them they throw them in converted prisons down by the border we dehumanize them we make them people think that there's
[2:51:40]something less than us and they are not less than us instead of spending texas dollars on a failed body security program
[2:51:52]we should instead be using those funds to help immigrants spend those funds to catch the smugglers and the crooks that live right here in
[2:52:02]texas that did what they did today state should be spending dollars helping the immigration courts to help them move those cases along so
[2:52:12]they can decide their state here their status here and they should be participating with the mexican border states and providing funding for them so that they can provide shelter and
[2:52:23]food for the immigrants that are coming through mexico and most of all our state leaders should be supporting immigration reform
[2:52:33]until the congress enacts a comprehensive immigration reform that's fair to people it gives the people for the great opportunity they're looking for we're going to continue to see this
[2:52:45]horrible horrible policy instituted by the state of texas and complemented by the federal government we mourn for them i'm so so pleased what university
[2:52:57]hospital has done george hernandez and his team sutherland springs massacre uvalde mass shooting of innocent 19
[2:53:06]children and two teachers and now 51 people dying here in bexar county as they come across the water
[2:53:16]a medical examiner as rebecca stated has received all the bodies from uvalde and now she's facing this
[2:53:26]tremendous workload tremendous i can't imagine how they go through that in the job that they do also want to thank the bear county emergency services for being out there
[2:53:36]on site and for bear county sheriff javier salazar for his attention to the problem we've got out there so
[2:53:45]we should mourn we should not forget but we should try to correct the horrible mistakes this state's making in our nation's making okay we're going to take a few questions
[2:54:00]if we want to go around like what type of question in spanish my name is tom piner i'm an assistant public information officer so we want to make sure that we get everybody in so if you have some questions we want to make sure that you
[2:54:12]understand we cannot talk about anything that has to do with the investigation the investigation is handled by the department of homeland security and we
[2:54:22]most certainly want to make sure that they they can talk about what they need to talk about but if you have any questions with respect to the medical examiner's office or what the county does then that
[2:54:33]would be a good time yes sir there are currently 51 bodies uh in the
[2:54:45]custody of the medical examiner there are 39 of them are men 12 of them are women children so that potentially
[2:54:57]some of them are under the age of 18. but we have to ask you to understand that
[2:55:06]what we have in materials there to try and identify the individuals cannot be at this time perfectly matched to the individuals right
[2:55:17]so that is what the medical examiner is trying to do hence uh my saying these are potentially people under 18.
[2:55:29]but not i would say in the t in the teenage age range not younger i'm sorry i don't have a number i don't have
[2:55:40]enough i cannot do it that is what so the medical examiner and the medical examiner's office
[2:55:49]their job is to determine the cause and the manner of death and these investigations and to identify the victims these uh this work will
[2:56:00]take days if not longer because you may imagine there's 51 victims and we want to be very diligent in this work
[2:56:10]and respectful to them talking to family members especially they're not getting any response from
[2:56:21]the consulate and a lot of them think that their family members are here in the hospital they speak their native language and they're only speaking to us they're desperate they don't know what to do what are we going to do with all
[2:56:32]these families well i've been in communication with the walman and consulate they've actually been very gracious um so i'll answer in english since your
[2:56:45]question was in english and then i'll go to spanish so i've been in contact with the walaman and consulate they've been very gracious i gave out the number you can let me know if i need to give that out at the end they are also working with the
[2:56:57]hospitals to get information they are also limited because of hipaa rules so they are working with that estado in communications foreign
[2:58:02]entering into a spanish version here for the question and answer round uh we are only short delay here and we know that the and there will be another english
[2:58:12]portion here on live now from fox's we are learning that the number has increased by one unfortunately now to 51 people that have died from
[2:58:23]extreme heat measures here of being an abandoned truck in san antonio and we'll continue to follow it here for you on live now from
[2:58:33]fox everybody and uh we are coming up at the top of the hour here so uh we're going to welcome in our new audience that continues to join us and everyone
[2:58:43]else that has been with us for quite some time today we appreciate that as now we are four o'clock out on the east coast one o'clock on the west coast as we are continuing to follow this
[2:58:54]breaking news that came from last evening yesterday evening of this 51 now migrants found dead inside of a truck in san antonio we are continuing to get
[2:59:05]updates from authorities there let's continue to listen now we can only estimate as you may imagine 51 victims so it'll take at least several days if
[2:59:17]not longer than that and then the information of their findings will have to be given to the consulates and then the consulates will take it from there it is very difficult if not impossible
[2:59:28]right now to answer your question i understand that people are desperate to know but at the same time it is more complicated because these are potentially citizens from
[2:59:40]other countries and the process is more complex [Music] i don't have any hospital i don't have
[2:59:50]any hospital numbers i don't know if anybody else does how many kids we have the information here at uhs so we just have this local information
[3:00:00]not not the other hospitals [Music] is
[3:00:35]respect foreign
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[3:01:54]yeah she was just asking about the kind of care that they're giving i can obviously speak for uhs because it is our county hospital and they are getting excellent care um
[3:02:04]the young woman who's 23 year old that i visited with this morning for guatemala i can personally say that her condition has gotten better she is better she was
[3:02:14]able to speak to me and the uhs staff is giving excellent excellent care i would say the teenage boy um personally we are asking for prayers for
[3:02:25]him how many people remain hospitalized so we can only speak about the patients we have here at uhs we
[3:02:36]don't have the information as you can imagine they went out critical care to the hospitals that had the beds um and so strack has organized that
[3:02:48]and different hospitals have yeah you can abstract different hospitals are privatized and different things and there's a lot of hipaa laws that we're trying to protect anything we're asking state and federal
[3:03:03]leaders i mean i can give you my personal opinion people need to get registered to vote and vote for a governor of texas who cares about people period that's
[3:03:14]what i think we need to do register and vote latinos [Music] um
[3:03:59]i don't know that is something that federal authorities decide and you would have to ask them they're afraid to come forward because
[3:04:14]they think they're going to expose their family members that are undocumented how can you ensure that they're going to be protected because some of them are not looking for them they're afraid to speak
[3:04:24]out because of this reason that's why they need to go through that yeah the so the important part there is as commissioner clay flores said earlier they need to contact the consulates
[3:04:35]their consulate so that the consulate can then talk to our medical examiner's office and then we can relay information that way for the adolescent who is uh hospital
[3:04:47]has any guardians been identified either among the dead or among any of the other patients no no no no that's not the case i'm sorry
[3:05:00]we don't have it out there feels yeah we don't have that information available if they were by themselves yeah ma'am the problem is you're asking
[3:05:21]us questions that we can't answer because this is something that lies within federal authority not within the authority of the county so i'm sorry but we don't i just don't have that information can you rephrase your question please um
[3:05:53]let me tell you i don't trust the state of texas on any of dealing with immigrants nationwide the federal government they are protected i can't tell you what some state
[3:06:03]officials will do they've passed so many laws that tried to discriminate against immigrants we have millions of immigrants living here they're undocumented that'll mean
[3:06:13]they're here illegal but they're afraid to speak up not just because of this issue so i have no confidence in what the state of texas might do when they're putting innocent people
[3:06:25]in a uh a prison uh how can we have any confidence that they would do anything right but the federal government will if we don't have any more questions and
[3:06:39]that will conclude today's press conference thank you [Music] [Music]
[3:06:53]all right so once again that was the latest update that we have from authorities the number now rising to 51 migrants found dead inside of this truck in san antonio with heat related
[3:07:04]illnesses there's also others with with injuries we'll be monitoring their conditions and updates from the local hospital there but many of the reporters asking
[3:07:14]about asylum for these migrants who have come across the border as still that continues to be a major issue a major topic
[3:07:25]fox news correspondent griff jenkins is in texas and has been reporting on this story as well as the border surge as these two stories are really coming together and paralleling the plight of migrants seeking refuge is
[3:07:40]always a humanitarian crisis but tonight we are dealing with a horrific human tragedy a gruesome discovery in san antonio texas more than 40 migrants found dead inside a tractor trailer 16
[3:07:52]individuals four of them children found alive inside the sweltering 18-wheeler and taken to the hospital for treatment they were suffering from heat stroke heat exhaustion
[3:08:02]no signs of water in the vehicle it was a refrigerated tractor trailer but there was no visible working ac unit on that rig the tractor trailer abandoned on a remote
[3:08:14]back road in the scorching heat for an unknown period of time a city worker in san antonio reportedly hearing a cry for help coming from the 18-wheeler three people have been arrested in what is presumed to be a smuggling attempt the
[3:08:25]scene difficult to process for first responders we're not supposed to open up a truck and see stacks of bodies in there none of us come to work imagining that
[3:08:36]texas governor greg abbott placing the blame on president biden tweeting in part quote these deaths are on biden they are a result of his deadly open border policies they show the deadly consequences of his refusal to enforce
[3:08:48]the law meanwhile fox news witnessing the rescue of migrants who nearly drowned while attempting to cross the rio grande a group of nine venezuelans struggling after being caught in the current all of this as we await a
[3:08:59]decision from the supreme court on whether president biden has the authority to end the remain in mexico policy in eagle pass texas griff jenkins fox
[3:09:10]news and also a live look as the u.n security council briefing is underway we were just listening into mexico or mexico was just speaking now we have the russian
[3:09:21]federation that is speaking here we might be popping in and out of that as we highlight some of the other top stories of the day of course the supreme court ruling coming out
[3:09:32]overruling roe v wade there's been quite a bit of reaction from that so we'll be touching on that also that january 6 hearing major major bombshells coming out of that today if
[3:09:43]you missed it remember you can always head over to our youtube page just type in live now from fox you can see all of the highlights from across the board we'll also be playing a little bit of
[3:09:53]that out later into the evening here on live now from fox we'll see you back after this break [Music]
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[3:12:04]welcome back here live now from fox i'm daytona everett we want to take you out to breaking news that we are tracking out of tampa florida right now this is a two alarm apartment fire it's been
[3:12:14]upgraded just within the past hour here more personnel has shown up to the scene tampa fire rescue is there trying to dial some of those flames you can see that smoke heading into nearby areas
[3:12:26]here we don't know exactly how many people were inside of the building if anyone was inside the building if it was vacant this is all
[3:12:35]just coming into the newsroom right now we are hearing that the local areas local streets in the area have been closed off their temporary
[3:12:45]clothes temporarily closed right now for anyone any neighbors does look like this fire is just consolidated to that one building on the
[3:12:56]left that right building just affected by some of the smoke at this point in time so we'll be watching this hopefully we'll get more details in uh the cause of the fire if there were
[3:13:06]any injuries in this but it does look like tampa is on it we'll keep this up in a box for you as we move into some of the other top
[3:13:16]stories of the day as you know we've been tracking the ropey wade ruling from the supreme court from the highest court that has really been the top story through the weekend here as there's been
[3:13:27]reaction across the board but one story we haven't quite heard of is how it's affecting the economy a live look at the big board right there as we are now in the red the overturning of roe
[3:13:37]versus wade could have more than just a political fallout in states that will not ban abortions that will now ban abortions such as texas and some experts are
[3:13:48]warning there could be a financial and economic consequence as well fox 26 in houston speaking with their economic
[3:13:56]expert mark jones the overturning of roe v wade could have more than just a political fallout in states that now ban abortions like here
[3:14:08]in texas yeah some experts are warning there could be financial and economic consequences as well so here this morning we've got fox 26 political analyst mark jones with rice university
[3:14:20]mark thanks for joining us thanks a recent study found that women who have to carry an unwanted pregnancy were four times more likely to struggle with
[3:14:30]poverty so how does a state like texas help women overcome these types of issues especially when it comes to daycare which we know can be a major hurdle for women being able to go to work and earn a paycheck
[3:14:42]well i think for with the recent ruling we first probably need to wait and see what the overall consequence is going to be for the number of abortions that take place in
[3:14:52]texas which right now is unknown uh prior to uh the six-month law that was passed the heartbeat bill we had approximately 50 000 abortions per year
[3:15:03]in texas what we don't know is going to occur is in the aftermath of the dobbs decision how how many is it going to be reduced in terms of how many of those women are
[3:15:14]going to have their baby to term as opposed to going out of state for the abortion or getting a medical abortion until we see those numbers it's going to be really tough to predict the overall
[3:15:25]economic consequence as well as the overall consequence for abortion and the number of abortions that take place among texas women well if it is
[3:15:35]excuse me if it does inequitably affect um you know women or families of a lower income level lower income bracket maybe closer or below the poverty line i'm wondering when it comes to like expenses
[3:15:46]like welfare wic benefits medicare that is something that comes out of you know everyone's pocketbook would we expect those prices and and those expenditures to rise
[3:15:58]uh there may be an increase in uh that type of child care uh in terms of with payments and child support because we do know that many of the women who
[3:16:08]probably will will end up not having an abortion who otherwise would have had an abortion or lower income which would mean more children lower income households would be more
[3:16:18]snap or food stamp payments or which payments so there could be greater welfare expenditures and that's one of the consequences i think the legislature needs to take into account in 2023
[3:16:29]is that with this uh change there may be more demand for social services among lower income texans and hopefully the state will provide additional resources
[3:16:40]for that if not then they're going to be creating further levels of poverty in the state so with that expectation are there ways that we are already aware of that texas would help balance that out because we
[3:16:51]could be looking at a huge deficit well i think you know what some of the principal ways to do it would be expanding the amount of resources available for lower income families
[3:17:02]universal pre-k more subsidized day care better health care services and prenatal care for lower income texans such as by expanding medicaid under the affordable
[3:17:14]care act where texas remains one of only 11 states that has not yet done that and certainly is the largest state so those are things that texas could do during the 2023 legislative session to help
[3:17:26]prepare the state for the larger number of live bursts that we're going to have compared to what would have been the case uh prior to the overturning of roe v long term one of the questions that was
[3:17:36]coming up online is is maybe students looking to enroll in schools would opt to spend their tuition dollars in another state um you know maybe as a protest also the possibility that
[3:17:47]employers or employees might look to other states and like larger events like you know maybe the nra would still have an event here but maybe the world cup would withdraw to a different state and
[3:17:57]that would be a loss of income that's always a possibility that as you can in terms of relocation by corporations and play in any groups that are holding conventions
[3:18:08]and we'll look i'd be a little less concerned about that related to roe v wade and much more concerned if the supreme court makes similar rulings related to lgbtq rights such as an
[3:18:18]obergfell which guarantees gay marriage and a large which care it was a lot of the anti-sodomy laws that used to exist if those were to be overturned then i
[3:18:29]think the repercussions would be much more severe in terms of corporate relocation and conventions although texas always does run the risk that if it gets uh red flagged by uh progressive
[3:18:40]groups uh you may start to see some corporations not want to move here or some groups not want to hold events such as conventions here and then we can see some ramifications there although
[3:18:51]those yeah those are much more likely though if you see anti-lgbtq legislation than abortion legislation though all right mark jones thank you for that insight and joining us this morning
[3:19:01]sure it's my pleasure all right those fox 26 in houston right there uh with that pretty interesting interview the economic fallout of this we're also hearing more from the byte administration as they're
[3:19:13]trying to seek out new avenues on how to provide abortion services amid this ruling from the supreme court fox says douglas eder with that side of the story everyone from the administration to
[3:19:28]congress to state governments trying to figure out the new legal landscape now as this recent decision from the court takes hold president biden is in europe for g-7 and
[3:19:40]nato meetings but back in washington the white house is scrambling we'll continue to make sure that something like medication abortion is made available to all women regardless of what state they're in all of this after the supreme
[3:19:51]court handed down the dobbs v jackson decision rejecting the idea of a constitutional protection for abortion rights and leaving the matter for states
[3:20:00]to decide today we did certify the trigger law it should go into effect july the 7th a number of states moved to immediately implement so-called trigger
[3:20:11]laws outlawing abortion south dakota governor christie gnome is even talking about stopping telemedicine appointments to access the abortion pill which is now used in the majority of
[3:20:22]abortions i don't believe that the telemedicine abortions are safe for individuals for women to conduct at home many times they're doing it unsupervised it's a medical procedure that sets the
[3:20:32]table for protracted legal battles and the biden administration is gearing up we will have to take a look at what the dobbs decision means as it plays out no doubt a lot of times we're going to all
[3:20:44]end up in court and to that end judges in utah and louisiana have already temporarily blocked new bans
[3:20:52]in washington doug lou zader fox news we also want to go out to an interview done with our fox 11 station they spoke with jody hicks she's the president and
[3:21:04]ceo of planned parenthood affiliates of california they're talking about options that are being provided out in california as well before we go to that though i want to alert everyone of the
[3:21:14]stuff that we are still watching the breaking news across the country this is out in tampa florida as there's a two alarm fire underway at an apartment complex no
[3:21:26]word yet on exactly how this started if anyone was inside of the apartment complex they have shut off several of these roads around the area streets in the area
[3:21:37]tampa fire on the scene here trying to get it all knocked down we'll keep our eyes on that one we also have our eyes now on a new shot as law enforcement officials and agents
[3:21:48]are going to be announcing the arrest of this suspect in connection with the fire in fairhill that led to a building collapse that killed a philadelphia firefighter
[3:22:00]his name lieutenant sean williamson we'll be getting the latest update from them here in just a little bit i believe it should be starting in the next 10
[3:22:09]minutes or so we'll have that full press conference for you as it comes in we also have our eyes on the big board here as uh we are unfortunately in the red amid all of the craziness going on in
[3:22:21]the world here including that abortion ruling from the supreme court let's go out to that interview with fox 11 in l.a but we now
[3:22:31]want to bring in jodi hicks she is the president and ceo of planned parenthood affiliates of california jody thank you for being with us on such a busy week
[3:22:40]for you gina was just talking about this constitutional amendment that's the big news story of the day california's legislature saying in november on the
[3:22:51]ballot everybody's going to be able to vote on this idea of enshrining a right to abortion into the california constitution why is that necessary in this state
[3:23:01]which is so overwhelmingly pro-choice and has so many overwhelmingly pro-choice leaders right now well let me see this at the national
[3:23:12]level people across the country are overwhelmingly also pro-choice and overwhelmingly did not want roe v wade to be overturned and um here we are
[3:23:23]today um still reeling from the outcome of that decision and so i think if we've learned nothing else from that decision from all of the
[3:23:34]opinions that that we've read is the right to privacy is no longer safe um and so here in california what we can do is put in our constitution
[3:23:44]um be very explicit that here in california people have the right to reproductive freedoms including abortion and contraception all right so that issue will be on the november ballot
[3:23:55]since we last spoke to you i know you were on our air on friday really soon after this decision came down some days have now transpired abortion
[3:24:06]is either severely stricted or illegal in many states across this country how has that impacted planned parenthood have you seen a direct impact where there are women who are coming from out
[3:24:17]of state already to california to get an abortion what does that look like well i think i think i talked about this before it's important to remember that we have been seeing this impact and we
[3:24:29]have been preparing since september when sba went into effect in texas instituted their ban and the supreme court really their inaction allowed that to
[3:24:40]become law despite the fact that it was unconstitutional and so since then we've had that fallout it's really a domino effect for when one state falls and the
[3:24:50]next state is impacted in the next state and so we have been seeing somewhere around 1500 patients a month from folks coming from out of state and so i
[3:25:01]think it's a little too soon in the coming days i've heard anecdotally already about patients that are coming um even some i heard today with with severe health conditions that now have
[3:25:12]to try to travel with um a severe chronic condition and having to help navigate that process for how they get here so we're hearing those anecdotally but i don't have the data for what the
[3:25:22]last couple of days means but we know we'll continue to be impacted and that's why we've been preparing for that day since september just for contact when
[3:25:32]you say 1500 a month from out of state prior to this what was that number before
[3:25:40]so um that's a that's a great question it was not 1500 a month i think it was somewhere around 7 000 in one fiscal year
[3:25:50]um a lot of that was due to the pandemic as well and some some things that were instituted in each state about what was essential services
[3:25:59]um but that number has uh increased per month since texas went into effect uh so since this ruling came down a lot of people have gone to your website the
[3:26:11]first thing they see on your website is an ability to donate to you how much money have you raised since this happened on friday and what does that money go to for people that may be
[3:26:22]considering donating sure and i i don't have that total there you know we are affiliates that are separate affiliates and so if i can encourage people to donate that goes
[3:26:32]directly to services is to donate to their local affiliate and you can find that on the website it is each you know planned parenthood affiliates of california we represent seven affiliates
[3:26:44]throughout california those affiliates run over a hundred health centers throughout the state and so if you donate to a local affiliate affiliate you are absolutely donated to services
[3:26:54]and that and the health centers that they operate the other thing i would say is there are also abortion funds across the country for california it's access
[3:27:04]reproductive justice and they are the organization that really does that practical support so helps patients navigate whether that's travel or lodging or things like that and then you
[3:27:15]know for us here at the state level we certainly support and and uh our affiliates and and do the work at the statewide level but for folks wanting to donate to health services definitely go to your
[3:27:27]local affiliate planned parenthood has been in existence for more than a hundred years which means of course that about half of your existence was pre
[3:27:38]the 1973 roe v wade decision and ruling so i'm curious to find out if you sort of the lessons learned from
[3:27:48]pre-1973 and how you're falling back on those lessons as we move forward to today sure i mean i think one thing that i keep saying is is though we are
[3:27:59]a organization that has been around for 100 years for many of us this row protection has been around really for generations you know i i have not lived
[3:28:09]a life that's that i remember as pre-row and and many leaders are sort of grappling with what a post-role reality looks like what i will tell you is technology has changed there
[3:28:21]are things um now like medication abortion there are ways that people are finding their way to those services it's a um one of the the biggest services that
[3:28:32]folks like planned parenthood provide for patients um but having said that you know we we have to help people travel to outside of the state they live in
[3:28:42]right now and i think um we're working very closely with a lot of the organizations that do that um including our own affiliates many of them have
[3:28:53]part of the services that they provide we're also hiring abortion navigators patient navigators that that really is their job if you call a health center they help you with what is the closest airport how long does it take to get
[3:29:05]from the airport to a health center so technology has changed times have changed what hasn't changed is one in four women in their reproductive
[3:29:14]lifetime will need or want to access an abortion service and that doesn't change despite what policymakers are doing across the country jody hicks thank you so much for sharing
[3:29:25]your perspective uh there's this conversation is going to continue we see that picture of kamala harris behind you they know there's a lot of people that are hoping the biden administration might do more going forward that'll be interesting to talk with you about in
[3:29:37]the in the weeks and months ahead but we appreciate you coming on tonight thank you so much thanks for having me and once again that was fox 11 in los angeles uh with that interview there as
[3:29:48]california is kind of leading the march on that there was already so much reaction so many protests across the country we brought you over this past weekend following the
[3:29:58]ruling there we'll be tracking it along with all of the other breaking news news here on live now from fox we want to bring you this as we are now learning Ghislaine Maxwell has been sentenced to 20
[3:30:08]years in prison and issued a 750 thousand dollar fine by a manhattan judge she spoke in court today and apologized to the to the
[3:30:18]victims calling it quote the greatest regret of her life that she met jeffrey epstein she also told them quote i hope my incarceration brings you closure maxwell
[3:30:30]was found guilty in december of 2021 of helping convicted sex offender jeffrey epstein sexually abused girls and young women for over a decade a new york city
[3:30:40]jury found maxwell guilty of using her influence power and associations with prominent people to groom girls and women before exploiting them many women
[3:30:51]who women who accused epstein of sexual abuse described maxwell as a madame who recruited them to provide massages for the
[3:31:01]wealthy wealthy epstein he eventually killed himself in jail before standing trial maxwell denies abusing anyone so that came out today the sentencing
[3:31:12]there was reaction from outside the courtroom which we brought to you here on live now from fox we'll be following this through the rest of the evening as well as they are uh
[3:31:22]as we know this story never goes away they are planning to appeal this sentencing also uh coming out now we're supposed to
[3:31:31]be getting an update out of philadelphia on unfortunately a firefighter who was killed in the midst of a fire an arson suspect
[3:31:41]has now been arrested we're supposed to be getting an update from the atf headquarters in philadelphia we'll bring it to you as it happens here on live now from fox we'll see you back here in two
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[3:33:52]welcome back here live now from fox going out to the atf headquarters as law enforcement is announcing the arrest of an arson suspect who set a building on fire killing one firefighter out in
[3:34:03]philadelphia as a result of this incident as well as our one of our building inspectors here in the city as well so wishing them a
[3:34:13]speedy recovery and and i hope they get well very soon in the early morning hours of saturday june 18th the philadelphia fire
[3:34:23]department responded to a fire at a commercial business located 300 west indiana avenue firefighters quickly suppressed the fire
[3:34:33]and during overhaul operations the structure unfortunately collapsed resulting in five people sustaining injuries and as i said causing the death of philadelphia fire department
[3:34:45]lieutenant sean williamson atf has a long-standing relationship with the philadelphia fire department and the philadelphia police department and our joint arson and explosive task
[3:34:56]force responded to this scene based on the significant amount of damage we also requested atf's national response team to provide
[3:35:07]assistance in this case the atf national response team provides definitive expertise and fire and explosive investigations through the through our certified fire investigator program
[3:35:18]and fire protection engineers and electrical engineers and to all those members that responded to that scene i just want to say thank you for all your hard work
[3:35:29]and working a lot of long hours and over really a holiday weekend as i said countless hours were spent uh
[3:35:38]on this investigation and through the hard work uh the scene examination has determined that on june 18th
[3:35:49]the fire that occurred at 300 west indiana avenue was an incendiary fire meaning it was intentionally set this finding is a glaring example of how
[3:36:00]the violent act of arson is and in this instance very unpredictable and when someone sets a fire in a building that fire can spread and cause the death
[3:36:11]and serious injury of many individuals and as i said unfortunately in this case we lost a philadelphia firefighter and several of his colleagues were seriously
[3:36:22]injured simultaneously to the fire scene investigation atf agents philadelphia police detectives and fire investigators developed the suspect and ultimately charges were filed
[3:36:33]i will now turn things over to eric gartner our united states marshal to explain the detail of the arrest operations thank you thank you matt good afternoon
[3:36:47]members of the united states marshall's fugitive task force in philadelphia arrested 28 year old al-ashraf khalil at approximately 2 30 p.m on june 24th at
[3:36:57]john f kennedy airport in new york khalil was wanted for malicious damage by means of fire resulting in death and related charges in relation to a
[3:37:07]june 18th fire at 300 west indiana street which is being investigated by the bureau of alcohol to alcohol tobacco firearms and explosives and specifically their arson and explosives task force
[3:37:18]the fire resulted in the death of philadelphia firefighter lieutenant sean williamson a federal warrant was issued june 23 by the u.s attorney's office eastern district of pennsylvania
[3:37:28]and was delegated to the united states marshal's fugitive task force for a fugitive investigation federal investigators learned that on 22 june khalil had fled the united states
[3:37:39]enroute to amman jordan extraordinary diplomatic efforts were made between the united states marshal service interpol in washington the department of justice office of international affairs the u.s department of state
[3:37:51]homeland security investigations and the federal bureau of investigation with jordanian authorities to have khalil returned to the united states on june 24th khalil was returned to the united states where he was arrested by members
[3:38:02]of the united states marshall's fugitive task force upon being placed in custody deputy marshals placed designated handcuffs on khalil marked with the initials and badge number of deceased firefighter
[3:38:14]sean williamson khalil was then transported to metropolitan detention center brooklyn and had an initial appearance on june 25th where he was remanded to the united states marshall service and ordered
[3:38:24]removed the eastern district of pennsylvania one final comment the phenomenal effort between u.s law enforcement agencies and our international partners in quickly capturing this fugitive while attempting
[3:38:35]to flee to the middle east again demonstrates our global reach and unwavering commitment to justice our hope is that the rapid capture of this fugitive will provide some measure of comfort to the family of lieutenant
[3:38:47]sean williamson and to the philadelphia fire department and our citizens i'd like to now introduce uh first assistant united states attorney nelson
[3:38:57]thayer thank you thank you marshall again there
[3:39:09]good afternoon my name is nelson thayer i'm the first assistant united states attorney for the u.s attorney's office for the eastern district of pennsylvania i am standing in for u.s attorney
[3:39:19]jacqueline romero today she would be here but she was called to washington for meetings all week i believe she is actually with the u.s attorney general
[3:39:29]merrick garland at this very moment i spoke with u.s attorney romero this morning and she asked me to extend on her behalf
[3:39:41]and on behalf of the entire u.s attorney's office her deepest condolences to the family of the fallen firefighter lieutenant
[3:39:50]sean williamson to his brother and sister firefighters may god's grace
[3:40:04]bring you comfort and strength to you commissioner ladder 18 and all the brother firefighters and
[3:40:18]sister firefighters in the city so it is amid this grief that we have resolved
[3:40:28]to bring justice to those who perpetrated this horrendous crime and that is why we are here today
[3:40:37]to announce charges in this case from virtually the minute the building at 300 west indiana
[3:40:48]avenue collapsed investigators and agents were on the scene dozens and dozens working day and night
[3:41:00]to this very day and they will continue to do so to determine the cause and origin of the fire and to continue this ongoing investigation they work to identify a suspect
[3:41:15]and even when that suspect fled as you heard the investigators have worked to bring him back to
[3:41:23]american soil to face justice on june 23 2022 a united states magistrate judge sitting here in
[3:41:34]philadelphia issued an arrest warrant for al ashraf basem khalil and authorized a criminal complaint
[3:41:43]charging him with one count of malicious damage by means of fire of a building used in interstate commerce resulting in death
[3:41:54]and one count of aiding and abetting and willfully causing the same the very next day june 24th 2022 khalil
[3:42:04]was arrested at jfk airport as previously detailed by marshall gardner following his arrest mr khalil made his initial appearance in
[3:42:15]the united states district court for the eastern district of new york before a united states magistrate judge where he was detained and ordered transferred here to the eastern district
[3:42:26]of pennsylvania as detailed in the criminal complaint and its affidavit of probable cause voluminous video surveillance
[3:42:38]recovered by investigators showed two suspects minutes before the fire began in the early morning hours of june 18th walk behind a dumpster
[3:42:50]and enter the basement doors of the property at 300 west indiana avenue the video surveillance further showed that about 20 minutes
[3:43:01]later the two suspects leave the location shortly after which smoke can be seen emanating from the direction of the building
[3:43:13]and immediately the thereafter flames can be seen on the video on june 20th atf agents interview the
[3:43:23]defendant who is the owner of the property as part of their federal investigation into the origin and cause of the fire
[3:43:32]khalil allegedly told investigators provided false information to the investigators about where he was at the time
[3:43:42]that he learned of the fire this information as alleged in the criminal complaint is directly contradicted by the video surveillance and in fact
[3:43:53]his own voice which was recorded by surveillance equipment his own statements his own words captured by that video
[3:44:04]surveillance khalil also told investigators that he had no plans to travel outside the united states and while he was being interviewed
[3:44:18]agents noted that some of khalil's clothing appeared to be similar to that worn by one of the two suspects captured on the video surveillance
[3:44:30]the following day on june 21st khalil spoke with investigators again and later that day he booked a one-way flight from jfk
[3:44:41]to amman jordan with a layover in dubai in the united arab emirates he departed on that flight from the u.s on june 22nd
[3:44:51]and marshall gartner has already described for you the remarkable work that his agency and so many others achieved overseas to ensure khalil's return to the u.s
[3:45:02]and his apprehension at jfk airport i want to acknowledge and thank the prosecutors working on
[3:45:12]this case assistant united states attorneys janine linehan chief of our violent crime unit
[3:45:20]and assistant u.s attorney sarah damiani and we want to stress that arson is without a doubt
[3:45:30]a violent crime one that places our brave first responders and the innocent public at grave risk as was so tragically demonstrated in
[3:45:41]this case i also want to once again acknowledge and thank all of the investigators and agencies for their extraordinarily swift
[3:45:52]and thorough work that enabled our office to bring these charges and ultimately to apprehend the defendant i also want to
[3:46:05]give some particular thanks to some other agencies philadelphia police department thank you commissioner the bureau of license and inspection
[3:46:16]the pennsylvania office of attorney general which provided some valuable technical assistance interpol homeland security investigations in dubai
[3:46:27]and various law enforcement agencies and officers at the amman embassy and the dubai consulate let me close by saying that
[3:46:41]while we mourn the loss of lieutenant williamson we are grateful for his life and his service to our country as a united states marine and to our city as one of the bravest
[3:46:54]and the best and hope that by seeking justice in this case we honor his memory i would now like to introduce
[3:47:06]philadelphia fire department commissioner adam thiel so
[3:47:33]on behalf of the almost 3 000 women and men of the philadelphia fire department and lieutenant sean williams
[3:47:43]williamson's family and friends i want to express our sincere appreciation to all of the partners that you see here assembled who have gotten us
[3:47:55]to this point you know one of the things that is distinct about philadelphia and i've
[3:48:06]worked around the nation and i've always had everywhere that i've worked good relationships with our federal state and local partners
[3:48:15]here in philadelphia from my first day it's something different it's something special the level of collaboration and cooperation the relationships that we
[3:48:27]have one team one fight that's what makes results like this possible we have a lot of fires in philadelphia
[3:48:42]as you've heard me say around 3 500 structure fires in a typical year roughly a quarter of those every year
[3:48:53]are suspicious or intentional fires so while the majority of our fires in philadelphia are unintentional
[3:49:02]from causes like cooking heating electrical smoking or open flame intentional fires remain
[3:49:12]a serious challenge for us and our partners arson
[3:49:22]kills arson killed lieutenant williamson arson has claimed the lives
[3:49:33]of numerous other philadelphians through the years we are truly truly
[3:49:44]thankful to all of our partners to our teammates the folks that were out there working with 24 7 365 for bringing us to this point and we are confident
[3:49:56]that through the good work of the us attorney's office here in philadelphia this case will result in a just outcome one of our fire marshals was actually
[3:50:12]involved in the collapse and was trapped during the course of the investigation every year our fire marshals are out there aided by
[3:50:23]their police department colleagues their atf colleagues at the scene of fires around the clock i think we have 20 or 25 active investigations going on right now from
[3:50:34]other fires across the city and we work these fires together all the time in partnership so again the lesson here is
[3:50:46]if you're thinking about it think hard because you can't run and you can't hide
[3:50:56]this team will find you wherever you go arson is not just a problem here in
[3:51:08]philadelphia but indeed it is a scourge that continues to affect our entire nation this afternoon we're joined by the united states top federal fire fire
[3:51:19]official the u.s fire administrator dr laurie moore merrill the u.s fire administration is a component another component of the department of homeland security one of the partners you've already heard mentioned today and i'm
[3:51:30]going to turn it over to dr moore merrill to talk about the arson problem writ large here in the united states thank you commissioner good afternoon it is the mission of the united states
[3:51:41]fire administration to strengthen and support our emergency responders and to reduce fire deaths and firefighter line of duty deaths in the united states
[3:51:53]intentional action fires including arson fires are defined by the united states fire
[3:52:01]administration as fires that are misuse of a heat source or an incendiary
[3:52:11]that requires fire service intervention in 2019 there were nearly 16 000 of these fires in 2020
[3:52:23]over 18 thousand intentional action fires and our 2021 and 2022 data are still being analyzed
[3:52:33]we still have a fire problem in this country over 1200 people have died in fires
[3:52:43]in the united states since january 1 of this year and including lieutenant sean williamson
[3:52:53]60 firefighter deaths since january 1 this year the united states fire administration stands ready to collaborate
[3:53:04]with our federal state and local partners to change this scenario at this point i'll turn it back to mr thayer thank you madam administrator
[3:53:22]we'll open it up for questions now yes sure i think for the first question i
[3:53:43]would defer to commissioner thiel and for the second to marshall gardner so buildings are complicated systems and if
[3:53:55]you set fire in a building it compromises the structural stability of that building it is not uncommon in fact we see it frequently
[3:54:05]that fires are followed by collapses of those structures so it is not unusual at all to have a collapse that is initiated by a fire event as the fire consumes the
[3:54:16]structural members of the building the cooperation necessary for an international fugitive is rather extensive and
[3:54:27]the speed at which the warrant was issued and i'm going to call out deputy chris burtos on our fugitive task force which is run by supervisor deputy rob clark
[3:54:38]he's an expert in international fugitive apprehensions he's been all over the world and he's got a great working relationship and it's those working relationships that allow us to you know quickly apprehend the individual or have them
[3:54:49]detained and returned as it was in this case prior to his entry into the country at which point it would become a bit more difficult no he actually was uh he was refused
[3:55:02]entry into jordan and when you're refused entry when you don't make it through customs then you are uh then you're returned and he was returned to dubai and they refused entry and he was returned back to jfk point of
[3:55:13]origin thank you sorry does that mean when you refused entry that then you're in custody
[3:55:24]before customs and you're in custody you're not necessarily in custody um you're just refused entry and you're turned around and sent back you have nowhere else to really go
[3:55:34]so he wasn't arrested at that point he was he was detained refused entry and that's a little different than being put actually into custody at the time of the fire and right after
[3:55:48]the fire and if so is that person as you'll note from the affidavit of probable cause there is a second person who's referred to
[3:55:59]but this is an ongoing investigation so beyond commenting on any questions that are directly derived from the affidavit i'm not in a position to comment at all
[3:56:10]about the uh status of the second person i would say again this is an ongoing investigation
[3:56:22]and i can't comment any further can you speak on the fact that he also knew that he had tenants in there because some people may look at this and say oh well he didn't make the building collapse
[3:56:33]you know that was a result of the fire that he said but i think if you'll um if you'll note in the affidavit of
[3:56:49]probable cause there there is a telephone conversation that's referred to in which he appears to be talking to somebody who is an occupant of that uh structure
[3:57:01]and that was a conversation as i mentioned earlier in my remarks there was itself captured by surveillance equipment in the area where he was
[3:57:12]walking at the time again this is an ongoing investigation and i really can't comment any further about any potential motive have you
[3:57:23]heard anything about possible changes in the insurance policy again it's an ongoing investigation and
[3:57:33]i'm afraid i can't comment any further because this
[3:57:43]fire resulted in the tragic loss of lieutenant williamson's life this is a potentially death penalty
[3:57:51]eligible prosecution the decision whether or not to seek the death penalty in a case in the federal
[3:58:03]system is one of the gravest decisions that a u.s attorney can be called upon to make necessarily as you might understand it is a lengthy rigorous
[3:58:14]process in which there is mandatory consultation with components in maine justice in washington dc the department of justice and their capital crimes unit
[3:58:25]that is a decision which will only happen after the investigation is completed at a much later time again this is
[3:58:36]very very early on in the investigation and prosecution but to answer your question yes this is a death penalty eligible case by the top if you mean the u.s attorney
[3:58:53]yes and ultimately the attorney general of the united states or his or her designee just declared by a detail in the affidavit the suspect was seen two times
[3:59:04]wearing the same outfit that was still on camera the first time was the night that he returned to the scene of the blacks and the second time was two days after the class
[3:59:16]i believe if you if you look at the affidavit the investigators observe very similar clothing being worn by the defendant in the first photograph
[3:59:28]which was taken at 1 46 a.m by the surveillance and very similar clothing that was taken on june 20th when he was interviewed he was wearing very similar
[3:59:40]clothing in both of those circumstances uh sweatpants with three stripes that are tight below the knee and what appeared
[3:59:49]to be slides slipper slides he was wearing similar pants uh when he arrived at the scene of the of the collapse
[3:59:58]in the early morning hours of june 18th i it's an ongoing investigation i'm not
[4:00:12]going to comment on any other individuals referred to in the affidavit we do not know the i can't comment on
[4:00:25]the any intentions um on the defendant's part other than he fled the country uh when he did he as the affidavit notes he did possess
[4:00:35]a palestinian passport his ultimate destination is described in the affidavit he does have a united states passport and i
[4:00:47]would leave it at that last question as you probably know there are a number of countries which allow dual
[4:00:58]citizenship and depending on the country there are individuals who are allowed to carry two passports some folks have a united states passport and for
[4:01:08]example an irish passport it happens all right yeah thank you for that question
[4:01:23]as is our custom lieutenant williamson will be promoted posthumously to captain during our next round of promotions which we essentially do every month
[4:01:34]so he will come out in our normal promotional lists and be promoted to captain at our end at our monthly promotional ceremony and then again during our annual awards and promotion
[4:01:45]ceremony well that's going to do it for that
[4:01:56]update the atf coming out and announcing arrests for an arson suspect who lit the fire that eventually killed philadelphia
[4:02:06]lieutenant sean williamson we've been showing some of the videos and pictures of his family his body and casket being laid to rest his family in
[4:02:17]mourning now they say that they will now elevate him and promote him as they do every single month here but the arrest being made the investigation still
[4:02:28]underway though as there are other people involved in the affidavit they weren't able to speak to that specifically so we'll be watching this as this story continues to develop we're
[4:02:39]going to take a quick commercial break when we come back we are going out to some of the big breaking news of the day delane maxwell being sentenced to 20 years we'll have details from down on
[4:02:50]the ground after the break [Music]
[4:04:14][Music] welcome back here to live now from fox
[4:04:55]it's a day that many have been waiting for galen maxwell sentenced to 20 years in prison and issued a 750 thousand dollar fine by a manhattan judge we want
[4:05:06]to bring in fox's jessica formoso joining us live now from down on the ground jessica bring us the details from what happened today in court good evening daytona well not much of a
[4:05:18]reaction from maxwell when she was sentenced to 20 years behind bars now what was shocking though during the sentencing was the fact that she addressed the court she got up and spoke directly to the victims she went on to
[4:05:30]say that she is sorry for the pain they have experienced she also said the greatest regret of her life was meeting jeffrey epstein however she did not take
[4:05:39]responsibility for her actions maxwell has been behind bars for two years now she's been in solitaire solidarity confinement and on suicide watch before
[4:05:49]today's court appearance in december a jury found maxwell guilty of five counts including sex trafficking and transporting miners to participate in
[4:05:59]those illegal sex acts the british socialite and companion of disgraced financier jeffrey epstein helped epstein recruit and groom young girls to have
[4:06:09]sex with him and other men now a number of victims were present in court today when they read their impact statement they addressed maxwell telling her she caused them so much pain one of the
[4:06:20]victims went on to say that she tried to commit suicide they told the judge they want maxwell to spend the rest of her life in prison now prosecutors were
[4:06:29]seeking a sentence of 30 to 55 years while the defense was asking for a lesser sentence of just five years again maxwell who is 60 years old got 20 years
[4:06:39]the victims say finally justice was served and they were actually shocked to hear from maxwell it was difficult i don't think that any
[4:06:49]of us expected her to speak so of course it was difficult her statement felt like a very hollow apology to me she did not take responsibility for the crimes that she
[4:07:00]committed and it felt like once more her trying to do something to benefit her and not at all about the harm that she had caused clever and cunning to the end
[4:07:12]jeffrey epstein left Ghislaine Maxwell holding the whole bag and you heard her attorneys right there
[4:07:24]um they say that they will appeal and are confident that this time around they will succeed but again you heard from the victims um they feel like justice
[4:07:34]was served but they did not believe when she apologized to them saying sorry they said that she should have taken responsibility for what she did daytona
[4:07:44]jessica it is it is so interesting to note the fact that she said it was her biggest regret in meeting jeffrey epstein but still
[4:07:53]denies the abuse of anyone in this case yeah that's right i mean what she was trying to say when she said those words that was her biggest regret saying that
[4:08:04]if she didn't meet uh jeffrey i've seen none of this would have happened so kind of taking the blame off her and blaming jeffrey epstein which you know he uh committed suicide before his trial even
[4:08:15]began but a lot of emotions here and i have to say that speaking to the victims um we got a chance to get up and close with them and ask them questions after the sentencing after after hearing what
[4:08:26]the judge said they were relieved that she will be spending 20 years behind bars and remember maxwell is 60 years old so add 20 years to that she'll be spending pretty much the rest of her
[4:08:36]life behind bars yeah i mean did they think 20 was enough i know she's going to be getting up there in age with 20 years but a lot of experts were expecting maybe around 30 and that's what the prosecutors wanted
[4:08:52]they wanted between 30 and 55 years now the judge here today did say that according to the guidelines that she had she could have sentenced her between 188
[4:09:02]months to 235 months so she went with 240 months which was a little bit more than expected so after all the attorneys here the prosecutors i did feel like at
[4:09:12]the end it was fair um you know they definitely didn't want to see the five years that the defense wanted five years they thought that was too little i mean she already has been um she's been in jail already for two
[4:09:23]years so if you take the five years minus two years she would only be spending about you know three years in prison all right well we will be watching uh for those possible appeals from her lawyers from her attorneys
[4:09:34]foxes uh jessica formosa live for us now thank you so much we appreciate it and we're going to keep it moving here
[4:09:45]as uh she said there's quite a bit of reaction from outside uh from the survivors of the abuse of uh galen maxwell as well as the attorney legal team for maxwell 2
[4:09:57]who say that they are far from over from the work that they have done on this before that though let's get out to some of the other news that we are tracking here
[4:10:06]this one out of missouri as the latest numbers were three people killed and at least 50 injured when an amtrak train derailed in missouri after
[4:10:16]hitting a dump truck we'll be starting it from the top after this break [Music]
[4:12:06][Music] welcome back here to live now from fox
[4:12:25]we want to go out to mendon missouri where we're getting an update from the ntsb who's been investigating the amtrak derailment that killed multiple people we have an update on the lives lost in
[4:12:37]this and the amount of people who were also injured let's listen good afternoon i'm jennifer hamandi
[4:12:47]and i'm the chair of the national transportation safety board with me today you can step up a little bit is ruben pion who was our assistant investigator in charge of this
[4:12:59]investigation in total we have a team of 15 here plus me so a total of 16 with a number of specialists from
[4:13:11]mechanical specialists to survival factors that look at crash worthiness and transportation disaster assistance and others and i'm happy to go into more
[4:13:22]of our team and questions if you're not familiar with the national transportation safety board we're an independent federal agency that's charged by congress
[4:13:33]with investigating every civil aviation accident in the united states and significant events in other modes of transportation including rail
[4:13:43]and highway crashes our mission is to determine what happened why it happened to prevent reoccurrence of that incident
[4:13:55]in the future before i go on i do want to say on behalf of the national transportation safety board
[4:14:06]to the families of those who lost loved ones in this tragedy we extend our deepest condolences
[4:14:17]and the survivors who continue to face challenges over the next several months or years whether it's physical or mental pain
[4:14:28]and anguish we will think of you in the weeks days and months to come at 12 43 pm
[4:14:39]local time yesterday june 27th amtrak train 4 was traveling east on the southwest
[4:14:48]chief which is their long distance line from los angeles to chicago at the same time a truck that was owned
[4:14:59]that is owned and operated by ms contracting llc based in brookfield missouri was transporting aggregate to an army corps
[4:15:10]of engineers project just north of the crossing the truck traversed the crossing and came into the path of amtrak train four
[4:15:22]the train struck uh the back part of the truck and then the train derailed the train consisted of two locomotives
[4:15:33]six coach cars a cafe car and a baggage car and again all derailed this is our full first full day on scene
[4:15:44]so we are gathering a lot of information at this time and i'm going to give you an idea of some of that information first of all we're downloading the event
[4:15:55]recorder that event recorder is going to give us information on when the locomotive engineer blew the horn it's going to give us information on the
[4:16:05]speed of the train in this area this the speed limit is 90 miles per hour it's going to give us information on the brake application whether whether it was
[4:16:16]full service brake application or emergency braking we're also downloading the two forward facing cameras there was not an inward
[4:16:26]facing camera but there are two forward-facing cameras there's also an electronic control module on the truck the road vehicle
[4:16:37]that we're going to want to take and look at see if it's damaged and see if we can download similar information from that vehicle we're downloading data from the wayside
[4:16:47]and signal systems and we began interviews of the crew there were 12 crew members on board the train so we do want to talk with them
[4:16:57]and that is continuing as we have that this press conference in addition we have two members from our transportation disaster assistance team
[4:17:08]that is working with the families victims were transported to 10 different hospitals so our disaster assistance team will go
[4:17:19]to the hospitals and meet with survivors and families of victims they will also go to the family assistance center
[4:17:30]in colombia and work with the red cross we'll then have an organizational meeting tomorrow morning where we will determine
[4:17:41]what our next steps are i know i'm going to get questions on the numbers of injuries and the number of fatalities i've
[4:17:50]seen and heard a lot of numbers today and i'm not comfortable with releasing any information unless i'm exact on that information
[4:18:00]so i'm going to defer injury and fatality numbers to the medical examiner i do want to take a moment
[4:18:11]and thank our safety partners and those who are working with us on this investigation and those include bnsf railway amtrak
[4:18:20]the federal railroad administration the missouri department of transportation who i spoke to today patrick mckenna was on scene the missouri state highway patrol
[4:18:32]a number of local emergency responders that came when this tragedy occurred and of course as i mentioned our tremendous
[4:18:42]partnership with american red cross thank you for all you do i also want to take a moment i have not had an opportunity to speak with the troop leaders but i understand there
[4:18:53]were two boy scout troops with leaders on the train boy scout troops 73 and 12 based in appleton wisconsin and i
[4:19:02]understand that they were providing assistance after the uh after the accident and so i do plan to
[4:19:12]reach out to those troops and thank them for those efforts i do want to take a moment and talk about passive grade crossings so this was a passive brick grade
[4:19:23]crossing there are active crossings and passive crossings what makes this a passive crossing is there was a stop sign
[4:19:33]and cross bucks there were no arms there were no warning lights there were no bells those are active crossings
[4:19:44]in the united states there are about 130 000 passive crossings it's about 50 percent
[4:19:54]of crossings in the u.s in missouri there are 3 500 passive crossings it's about half of their crossings as well
[4:20:06]53 percent of grade crossing incidents in missouri occur at passive crossings and so the ntsb has issued recommendations for
[4:20:17]a number of years on either closing crossings consolidating crossings separating grade crossings and
[4:20:27]making grade crossings that are not separated or consolidated active crossing so that there are gates bells whistles to provide warning
[4:20:38]to drivers that approach crossings in addition we have recommended since 1998 and 1998
[4:20:48]we did a study on passive grade crossings and technology and we made recommendations on technology in roadway
[4:20:58]vehicles that could alert drivers of the presence of a train on approach to a grade crossing we still don't see action on that it's
[4:21:08]been 24 years and that recommendation is still as important today as it was in 1998. lives could be saved and so with that i'm going to take some
[4:21:20]questions i do want folks if you have a question to raise your hand i'll call on you please state your name and your affiliation one question if i have to come around for
[4:21:31]more rounds i will do that elite jackson with fox 4 news in kansas city are you guys aware of the complaints that people in the city and the commissioners have about this
[4:21:43]particular crossing going all the way back to 2019 the question is is the ntsb aware of complaints about this crossing going
[4:21:53]back since to 2019 we will be aware uh we are we have not been aware that there have been specific complaints
[4:22:03]about this crossing however today i did ask the missouri d.o.t director if this crossing was one
[4:22:15]that was in a list of crossings that they wanted to upgra upgrade he did confirm that for this crossing i did ask how much it would cost to
[4:22:26]ins to make this an active crossing and the figures i was provided was about four hundred thousand dollars uh but that is more information that we are
[4:22:36]going to seek from the state and others peter that these recommendations process and then did nothing what's the
[4:22:49]emotion like there for you that these these neighbors share that they wish something was down earlier they know it was a problem yeah uh great question the question is
[4:22:58]uh what what are my emotions on this uh am i angry with the state and others for not taking action
[4:23:09]on our recommendations or just on the crossing itself and anytime our recommendations aren't heated of course i'm upset because we see
[4:23:20]tragedy after tragedy after tragedy and numerous fatalities and injuries and we know and it's very frustrating for our investigators very frustrating
[4:23:31]when they are on scene and they know what it would have prevented this but you know at the same time uh my you know
[4:23:41]my concern especially when we arrive on scene is for the families and just how tragic this is i mean i love
[4:23:52]travel by train i love to ride amtrak i've run amtrak on the empire builder in numerous lines it is one of the safest forms of transportation israel and so it
[4:24:03]is so sad uh when a life is lost as a result of of traveling uh
[4:24:13]a way that you love so it's it's it's heartbreaking and i really feel for the families and then you mark slavic cbs affiliate
[4:24:24]for columbia and jefferson city my question for you is how knowing what you know now how confident are you that you will come up with the cause of the accident and how long does it take
[4:24:35]before we know exactly how fast the train was traveling during the axis uh i'm hoping we'll be able to confirm the data on
[4:24:45]the question was the speed of the train and i'm hoping we'll have an answer for you on the speed the train was traveling tomorrow i've been given some
[4:24:55]preliminary information but i want to make sure the data is accurate we want to make sure that the information that was put in on the size of the wheels produced the right information
[4:25:06]for the speed and so we just want to confirm that so i hope to have that to you tomorrow um and i'm sorry what was the other question are you going to
[4:25:17]uh how confident are very confident how confident am i on the cause of the accident but you know when
[4:25:27]when we look at the cause we don't just look at the immediate uh uh contributing or or causal factor which in this case was a truck that went
[4:25:38]into the path of an amtrak train right a train can take up to a mile to stop it's very difficult and so what do you
[4:25:49]do in a situation where a vehicle goes right in front of a train as it's moving i mean the locomotive engineer reacted and so but there are other reasons there
[4:26:01]are other contributing factors in any accident uh that we will look at including lack of vehicle technology lack of grade
[4:26:12]crossing infrastructure and other things that could prevent a future incident from we all occurring amtrak travels a great
[4:26:31]deal faster than the freight champion now these trains uh the question is on seat belts for
[4:26:46]trains we have actually looked at restraints in the past in our dupont washington investigation especially for children at the time but certainly
[4:26:58]we have crash worthiness specialists that are on scene that will look at what occurred
[4:27:07]in the accident and how someone could survive an accident that would occur in the future and that will be part of our
[4:27:17]investigation and what we report on in our final several of the crew reports what have you learned from them that you can share
[4:27:27]with us right now yeah uh not i the question is uh our interviews with crew members that's not public information that we share right now i personally have not
[4:27:39]been part of those discussions those interviews are ongoing at some point that will be those interviews will be part of our public docket
[4:27:48]uh and available uh for public uh consumption so you pick two more hundred thousand dollars a lot of
[4:28:03]money make that an active crossing who yeah the question is who is responsible
[4:28:16]for making this crossing an active crossing in this case this is a county road and so there's a partnership between the county the state for funding
[4:28:28]and frankly bnsf because it's their railway and so it really is the three entities working together that would
[4:28:37]be responsible for installing active warning devices at this crossing all right well thank you very much
[4:28:48]uh oh is there one more yes sorry um the question is how recently the train
[4:29:11]had been had been inspected and are we worried about equipment failure i just we will request that information from amtrak on the last inspection and
[4:29:21]what that inspection produced i do not have concerns about mechanical failure about the train any mechanical issues with the train we do not have concerns about track
[4:29:32]our concerns are very focused on this grade crossing the approach to the grade crossing and survivability after an accident
[4:29:42]all right well thank you very thank much so that was the latest update from the
[4:29:52]ntsb out of mendon missouri as the investigation continues into this amtrak train derailment that killed four people and injured at least 50 and we're
[4:30:04]hearing even higher numbers than that there's been kind of ins and outs of what these numbers possibly could be we'll be assessing and keeping up with those injuries the
[4:30:14]extent of them but several cars of this amtrak train traveling from los angeles to chicago derailed yesterday afternoon after it struck a dump truck at a
[4:30:25]crossing near mendon missouri menden about 100 miles northeast of kansas city we'll be keeping everyone up to date with this story as well as
[4:30:36]the other stories that we are tracking across the country and around the world at this time as they know president biden is not at home right now even though there's so much going on he's at
[4:30:47]the nato summit uh he's in europe trying to keep nato allies united as ukraine's war with russia drags on that's says the u.n security council is still meeting at
[4:30:58]this time we have world leaders uh talking about the situation underway sanctions aren't necessarily a quick fix and the jolt in energy prices is
[4:31:09]stinging the u.s and european economies the alliance seems to be committed to confronting the russian security threat by briefing up uh beefing up its own
[4:31:19]defense here so uh we're going to take a quick break we'll be right back we'll be keeping you updated on any of these new developments from stories across the country and around the world when we
[4:31:30]come back [Music]
[4:33:16][Music] welcome back here live now from fox we
[4:33:38]are about four minutes after 2 30 uh in 5 30 out on the east coast as we were tracking stories across the country heading out to the nation's capital this morning
[4:33:49]there was a surprise hearing the house committee investigating capital riot holding this hearing this afternoon announcing new evidence and questioning an insider witness a former aide to then
[4:34:01]president trump's chief of staff mark meadows fox news correspondent caroline shively with the story today the january 6th committee will
[4:34:12]question cassidy hutchinson considered one of the linchpin witnesses in the january 6th investigation she was a top eight to former white house chief of staff mark meadows on the day of the
[4:34:22]capitol riot and has testified multiple times behind closed doors ahead of today's public hearing are you aware mr gates
[4:34:36]and mr brooks i know both advocated for there to be a blanket pardon four members involved in that meeting since meadows has refused to testify hutchinson is key to the committee's
[4:34:48]investigation since she had close contact with him as well as president trump today she will likely be questioned about reports that she heard meadows describing how mr trump reacted with approval when he was told his
[4:35:00]supporters were chanting hang mike pence on monday vice president harris praised pence for certifying the election despite the pressure campaign from the white house and threats from the rioters
[4:35:10]he did his job that day and i commend him for that because clearly it was under extraordinary circumstances that he should not have had to face the committee has remained quiet about the
[4:35:22]details of today's hearing saying only that recently obtained evidence will be presented in washington carolina shively fox news so that was a preview to this testimony
[4:35:33]we're going to play out some of it from from a little bit earlier today as this is some of the most intense testimony that we've been hearing the closest
[4:35:43]former aide to mark meadows that day speaking directly with president trump there through all of it so this is very exposing testimony but before that want
[4:35:53]to alert you of some breaking news we're following out of course lake arizona we're now hearing that the sheriff's office is working a scene where a deputy has been
[4:36:03]shot the suspect has barricaded himself and swat has been called out we'll keep you updated on this as we learn more they're asking residents to stay out of
[4:36:12]the area as a barricade situation can be extremely dangerous we'll keep that up in a box for you so we can uh watch it as it continues to develop but we'll go
[4:36:23]out to some of the testimony from earlier today in the january sex hearing i was in the i was in the vicinity of a conversation where i overheard the president say something to the effect of
[4:36:34]you know i don't even care that they have weapons they're not here to hurt me take the effing mags away let my people in they can march the capital from here let the people in take
[4:36:44]the effing mags away just to be clear miss hutchinson is it your understanding that the president wanted to take the mags away and said
[4:36:55]that the armed individuals were not there to hurt him that's a fair assessment the issue wasn't with the amount of space available in the official rally area uh
[4:37:06]only but instead that people did not want to have to go through the mags let's listen to a portion of what you told us about that in this particular instance it wasn't
[4:37:17]the capacity of our space it was the mags and the people that didn't want to come through and that's what tony had been trying to relate to him that morning you know it's not the issues that we encounter on the campaign we
[4:37:28]have enough space or they don't want to come in right now they they have weapons they don't want confiscated by the secret service and they're fine on the mall they can see you in the mall and they're they
[4:37:39]want to march straight to the capitol from the mall the president apparently wanted all attendees inside the official rally space and repeatedly said quote they're
[4:37:50]not here to hurt me and and just to to be clear so um he was told again
[4:38:01]in that conversation or was he told to get in that conversation that people couldn't come through the mags because they had weapons correct and um that people
[4:38:12]and his response was to say they can march to the capitol from is it from the ellipse something the effective take the effing mags away they're not here to hurt me
[4:38:22]let them in let my people in they can march the capitol after the rally's over they can march from they can march from the ellipse take the effing mags away
[4:38:31]then they can march the capital ms hutchinson what we saw when those clips were playing were photos provided by the national archives showing the president in the offstage tent before
[4:38:42]his speech on the ellipse you were in some of those photos as well and i just want to confirm that that is when you heard the president say the people with weapons weren't there to
[4:38:53]hurt him and that he wanted the secret service to remove the magnetometers that's correct in the photos that you displayed we were standing towards the front of the tent with the tvs
[4:39:02]really close to where he would walk out to go onto the stage these conversations happened two to three minutes before he took the stage that morning
[4:39:13]let's reflect on that for a moment president trump was aware that a number of the individuals in the crowd had weapons and were wearing body armor and here's what president trump instructed
[4:39:24]the crowd to do we're going to walk down and i'll be there with you we're going to walk down we're going to walk down anyone you want
[4:39:34]but i think right here we're gonna walk down to the capitol [Applause] and the crowd as we know did proceed to the capitol it soon became apparent to
[4:39:46]the secret service including the secret service teams in the crowd along with white house staff the security at the capitol would not be sufficient i've had
[4:39:59]two or three phone conversations with mr ronaldo when we were at the ellipse and then i had four men on mr meadows detail with me
[4:40:10]in between those individuals and then a few other bodies on the ground just secret service doing advance
[4:40:20]they were getting notifications through their radios and mr rordado in one phone conversation had called me and said make sure the chief knows that they're getting close to the capital it's
[4:40:31]um they're having trouble stacking bodies ms hutchinson when you you said they were having trouble stacking bodies did you mean that law enforcement at the capitol
[4:40:42]needed more people to defend the capital from the rioters it was becoming clear to us and to the secret service that capitol police officers were getting overrun at the security barricades outside of the
[4:40:54]capitol building and they were having short they were short people to defend the building against the rioters and you mentioned that mr ornato was conveying this to you because he wanted
[4:41:05]you to tell mr meadows so did you did you tell mr meadows that people were getting closer to the capitol and that capitol police was having difficulty
[4:41:17]after i had the conversation with mr meadows mr after i had the conversation with mr ornato i went to have the discussion with mr meadows he was in a secure vehicle at the time making a call
[4:41:28]so when i had gone over to the car i went to open the door to let him know and he had immediately shut it i don't know who he was speaking with it wasn't something that he regularly
[4:41:39]did especially when i would go over to give him information so i was a bit taken aback but i didn't think much of it and thinking that i was would be able to have the conversation with him a few
[4:41:51]moments later and were you able to have that conversation a few moments later probably about 20 to 25 minutes later there was another period in between where he shut the door again um and then
[4:42:02]when he finally got out of the vehicle we had the conversation but at that point there was a backlog of information that he should have been made aware of and so you opened the door to the control car and mr meadows pulled it
[4:42:13]shut that's correct and he did that two times that's correct and when you finally were able to give mr meadows the information about the violence at the capitol what
[4:42:25]was his reaction he almost had a lack of reaction i remember him saying
[4:42:38]all right something to the effect of how much longer does the president have left in this speech again
[4:42:50]much of this information about the potential for violence was known or learned before the onset of the violence early enough for president trump to take steps to prevent it
[4:43:01]he could for example have urged the crowd at the ellipse not to march to the capitol he could have condemned the violence immediately once it began or he could have taken multiple other in
[4:43:11]the attack on the capitol mrs hutchinson i'd like now for us to listen to a description your description of what transpired in the west wing during the attack
[4:43:23]for context in this clip you describe the time frame starting at about 2 pm so i remember mark being alone in his office for
[4:43:34]uh quite some time and you know i i know we've spoken about ben williamson going in at one point and i don't personally remember ben going and i don't doubt that he had gone in
[4:43:44]um but i remember him being alone in his office for most of the afternoon around two o'clock to 205 around two o'clock to 205
[4:43:56]you know we were watching the tv and i could see that the riders were getting closer and closer to the capitol mark still hadn't popped out of his office or said anything about it so that's when i went into his office i saw
[4:44:07]that he was sitting on his couch on his cell phone same as the morning where he was just kind of scrolling and typing um i said hey are you watching the tv chief
[4:44:23]because tv was small and i you can see it but i didn't know if he was really paying attention watching the tv chief he was like yeah the writers are getting really close
[4:44:33]have you talked to the president he said no he wants to be alone right now still looking at his phone so i start to get frustrated because i sort of felt like i was watching a
[4:44:49]this is not a great comparison but a bad car accident that was about to happen where you can't stop it but you want to be able to do something
[4:45:01]and i just remember i remember thinking in that moment mark needs to snap out of this and i don't know how to snap him out of this but he he needs to care and i just remember i blurted out i said
[4:45:12]mark do you know where jim's at right now and he looked up at me at that point said jim i said marcus he was on the floor a little while ago giving a floor speech did you
[4:45:22]listen he said yeah it was real good did you like it and i said yeah do you know where he's at right now he said no i haven't heard from him and i said you might want to check in with
[4:45:33]him mark and i remember pointing at the tv and the writers are getting close they might get in and he looked at me and said something to the effect of
[4:45:43]all right i'll give him a call not long after the rioters broke into the capitol you described what happened with white
[4:45:52]house counsel pat ciccoloni no more than a minute a minute and a half later i see pastor bologna barreling down the hallway
[4:46:04]towards our office and rushed right in looked at me said is mark in his office and i said yes he just looked at me and started shaking
[4:46:15]his head and went over open marks off the store stood there with the door propped open and said something to the mark is still sitting on his phone i remember like glancing and he's still sitting on his
[4:46:26]phone and i remember pat saying to him something to the effect of the riders have gotten to the capitol mark we need to go down and see the president now
[4:46:37]and mark looked up at it and said he doesn't want to do anything bad and pat said something to the effect of and very clearly had
[4:46:48]said this to mark something's the effect of mark something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood's going to be on your effing hands this is getting out of control i'm going down
[4:46:59]there and at that point mark stood up from his couch both of his phones in his hand he had his glasses on still he walked out with pat he put both of his phones on my desk
[4:47:10]and said let me know if jim calls and they walked out and went down to the dining room a few minutes later representative jordan called back a couple minutes later so likely around
[4:47:28]between 2 15 and 2 25 i know the tweet went out at 2 24. i don't remember if i was there when the tweet went out or it happened right afterwards but
[4:47:40]jim had called i answered the phone said one second he knew it was i guess he knew and i introduced myself but i i don't remember he called my cell phone or he had called
[4:47:51]one of marx um but i answered the phones in one second mark's on the whole i'm gonna go hand the phones and he said okay so i went down i asked the valet if
[4:48:01]mark was in the dining room valley said yes i opened the door to the dining room briefly stepped in to get mark's attention
[4:48:11]showed him the phone like flipped the phone his way so he could see it said jim jordan he had stepped where i was standing there holding the door open took the phone talking to jim with the
[4:48:22]door still propped open so i took a few steps back so i probably was two feet from mark he was standing in the doorway going to the oval office dining room
[4:48:33]they had a brief conversation and in the crossfires you know i heard briefly like what they were talking about but in the background i had heard conversations in the oval dining room at
[4:48:44]the point at that point talking about the hang mike pence chance that clip ended ms hutchinson with you recalling that you heard the president
[4:48:56]mr meadows and the white house council discussing the hang mike pence chance and then you described for us what happened next it wasn't until
[4:49:08]mark hung up the phone handed it back to me i went back to my desk a couple minutes later him and pat came back possibly eric
[4:49:19]hirschman too i'm pretty sure eric hershman was there but i'm i'm confident it was pat that was there
[4:49:29]um i remember pat saying something to the effect of mark we need to do something more they're literally calling
[4:49:38]for the vice president's the effing hung and mark had responded something to the effect of you heard him pat he thinks mike deserves it he doesn't think they're doing anything wrong
[4:49:50]to which pat said something this is nothing crazy we need to be doing something more briefly stepped into mark's office and when mark had said something but mark has said something to
[4:50:01]be effective he doesn't think they're doing anything wrong knowing what i had heard briefly in the dining room coupled with pat discussing the hang
[4:50:13]mike pence chance in the lobby of our office and then mark's response i understood there to be the riders in the capital that were chanting
[4:50:25]for the vice president to be hung let me pause here on this point as rioters chanted hang mike pence the president of the united states
[4:50:36]donald trump said that quote mike deserves it and that those rioters were not doing anything wrong this is a sentiment that he has
[4:50:45]expressed at other times as well in an interview with abc news correspondent jonathan carl president trump was asked about the supporters chanting hang mike
[4:50:56]pence last year instead of condemning them the former president defended them because it's common sense
[4:51:07]it's common sense that you're supposed to protect how can you if you know a vote is fraudulent right how can you pass on a fraudulent vote
[4:51:18]to congress president trump's view that the rioters were not doing anything wrong and that quote mike deserved it helps us to understand why the president
[4:51:30]did not ask the rioters to leave the capitol for multiple hours in fact he put this tweet out at 2 24 pm miss hutchinson do you recall
[4:51:45]seeing this tweet in which the president said the vice president did not have the courage to do what needed to be done i do miss hutchinson what was your reaction
[4:51:56]when you saw this tweet as a staffer that works
[4:52:05]to always represent the administration to the best of my ability and to showcase the good things that he had done for the country i remember feeling
[4:52:19]frustrated disappointed and really it felt personal i it was really sad we've been listening into testimony from
[4:52:30]cassidy hutchinson who was the former aide for chief of staff mark meadows at the time of the january 6 insurrection just really really bombshell reports
[4:52:41]coming out today in this hearing we have highlights we'll be playing them out through the rest of the evening here as all eyes are on the latest from the january 6 house
[4:52:52]committee who has really controlled this investigation done pre-recorded interviews and live interviews uh and presented them to the public here so later on we'll be playing those out for
[4:53:04]you we're going to take a quick break when we come back the latest out of mendon missouri four people killed at least 150 people hospitalized in amtrak derailment we'll have the latest from
[4:53:14]down on the ground after the break [Music]
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[4:55:18]welcome back here to live now from fox we want to continue to update you on this story coming out of mendon missouri four people are now confirmed dead and 150 were hospitalized after an amtrak
[4:55:29]train collided with a dump truck and today federal investigators arrived at the spot where the train derailed fox 8's madison scarpino joins us live now from
[4:55:39]menden missouri near the tracks madison what's the latest hey daytona investigators are trying to figure out how this crash happened yesterday afternoon we're learning that
[4:55:50]farmers nearby had been warning that this crossing may have been dangerous for a while now and there's no any sort of flashing lights or barriers that show when a train is coming and records show that the missouri
[4:56:02]department of transportation was aware that this site needed improvements our hearts really go out to the families uh you know i tried to prevent this i've done everything i knew to do in my power
[4:56:13]i've talked to numerous people and uh anyway i'm i'm just really saddened that i wasn't able to do more passengers i spoke with say they felt
[4:56:24]the collision before the eight car train slowly started tipping over some boy scouts on their way home from a week-long hiking trip in new mexico raced to help passengers after the crash
[4:56:35]one of the boy scouts eli scripcak found the truck's driver lying in a ditch and tried to comfort and stabilize him before he ultimately died scripsak says the as boy scouts they train for
[4:56:46]emergency situations but not something like this that with the adrenaline it some of the pain you couldn't really feel so that helped too and just running back
[4:56:57]and forth i was just carrying stuff carrying people getting trying to get the kids out first and just trying to people with anything back issues
[4:57:08]just laying them down and trying to mobilize them and if they didn't have head injuries give them water because i mean everyone was panicked and this past hour
[4:57:24]that for years they've been recommending updates to these kinds of crossings but that could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars daytona yeah madison mendon missouri a really
[4:57:34]small town a small community what is everyone saying about this who's stopping by and probably taking a look at the crash site yeah i think it's a real shock to this
[4:57:46]community and yesterday i went to the high school where all of the passengers who were uninjured were taken to and one of the things that one of the survivors told me was they were just shocked by
[4:57:56]how small of a town it was and it seems as though there may have been more people on the train than there was in this town but they were so surprised by how many community members were already
[4:58:06]there and ready to help yeah and with that you have to believe you know i i know a lot of the people who were hospitalized had to be transported to university of missouri to colombia
[4:58:17]how is everyone responding to that is there enough resources to be take care to be taking care of this many people so we haven't gotten an update as far as
[4:58:29]that goes um we know that there were originally a hundred and fifty people who were hospitalized not sure the number right now but that's out of i think around 275 people total on the
[4:58:40]trains and we're still waiting on an update of the severity of these injuries for the people who are still hospitalized as the biggest update is today the death toll has risen by one
[4:58:50]more so um hopefully no more than four yeah with that many people though uh you know you hate to think of what the possibilities could be but the numbers
[4:59:01]are continuing to rise and so we'll stay on that and we'll be thinking about all the people out in mend of missouri foxes madison scarpino live for us now thank you so much madison thanks daytona
[4:59:12]and we did have that update from the ntsb uh regarding the actual site there like madison said there have been calls to you know make renovations to make it
[4:59:24]safer out there put more lights more crossing um maneuvers for these strings to to know exactly where they're going so things like this don't happen um maybe this
[4:59:34]will be the trigger for those changes well we're going to take one more break we're at the top of the hour it is three o'clock here in phoenix arizona it is six o'clock out on the east coast
[4:59:45]president biden not home right now he's actually in europe for nato summit we'll be giving you details on that after the break [Music]
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[5:01:54]as russia continues its bombardment of ukraine hitting the shopping mall in kremenchuk with long-range missiles president biden is meeting with nato allies in europe vowing the alliance
[5:02:04]will stand strong against vladimir putin together the new commitments will constitute an impressive display of allied unity and resolve
[5:02:15]but behind the scenes four months into the conflict the u.s and its nato partners are feeling the strain of pumping billions of dollars worth of weapons into ukraine and trying to punish russia with economic sanctions
[5:02:26]that are helping make gas prices soar worldwide you predicted it for a while excuse me on monday french president emmanuel
[5:02:36]macron buttonholed president biden outside a g7 meeting and briefed him about failed attempts to get arab nations to substantially increase oil production ukrainian officials worry
[5:02:47]those economic pressures combined with recent russian victories could mean allies will lower expectations that ukraine can win back lost territory shrinking of ukraine essentially means
[5:02:57]appeasing putin and going back to the 1938 practice of appeasing dictators like hitler was president biden is set to travel to saudi arabia next month to
[5:03:09]make his own attempt to encourage arab nations to increase oil production in the face of five dollar a gallon gas prices here at home in washington
[5:03:17]caroline shively fox news as always we have the unique opportunity to play out full remarks so we'll listen in to president biden from earlier
[5:03:28]and uh it's uh the royal palace is uh is just incredible and uh notwithstanding the magnus the majesty of this palace
[5:03:39]we do have share the same values as a matter of fact some suggest we wouldn't be an independent country right now for you guys some years ago
[5:03:48]and uh but uh i've traveled to madrid as vice president and uh and quite frankly it's wonderful to return here again to discuss the consequences of what particularly is
[5:04:00]happening today in the world this is we're at a moment of uh historical an inflection point in american in world history things are changing they're changing drastically not only in
[5:04:11]terms of the politics of the world but everything from pandemic diseases to uh dealing with dealing with everything from climate change
[5:04:22]and so i want to thank you for hosting this nato meeting because it's been almost 40 years 40 years now you've all been members of nato
[5:04:32]and we're all better off for it all of us and today nato is united and as united galvanized as i believe it's ever been
[5:04:43]and we are ready to face the threats of russian aggression because quite frankly there's no choice it's been a the most significant abuse of power
[5:04:54]since world war ii and an invasion of that many people into another country in europe some people thought that was not likely to happen again but it did
[5:05:03]but we responded we responded in unison and when we agreed we were going to respond we acknowledged there was going to be some cost to our people they were
[5:05:12]going to was enough our imposition of sanctions on on russia but our people have stood together they stood up and they stood strong
[5:05:22]and you know as i told president sanchez who i met with a moment ago that i want to thank you behind for uh for
[5:05:33]the support of the spanish people and not only as it relates to what is going on in europe and uh but what's happening in north africa
[5:05:44]as well as latin america um the help and support and the the input has been extremely valuable
[5:05:56]you know i tell people that the idea we've always we've had great migrations flows into the united states over the years we're we're a nation of immigrants
[5:06:07]but an interesting statistic here on this that i think it's 24 out of every 100 students in grade 1 through 12 in america speak
[5:06:19]spanish speak spanish as original language and so the future of my country depends considerably on the assimilation of a population that
[5:06:30]is going to have all the same values that we possess and have and your help in latin america is also extremely important and look forward to
[5:06:41]from here to in europe to latin america to uh to the caribbean to africa the partnership between our country is going to determine a good large part
[5:06:52]how well things look 10 years from now 15 years from now so we have to stay together the unity is important and i think we're off to a very very good start
[5:07:04]demonstrating the power of democracies in the second quarter of the 21st century because there is there is a contest between autocracies and democracies and
[5:07:14]we have to succeed and i'm confident we were well with your help thank you all right so that was just one of the events today
[5:07:30]there's also a full press briefing which we're going to play out just momentarily here but we have up in that box the breaking news coming out of ford's lake out in arizona where a deputy has been
[5:07:42]reported shot and the suspect barricaded inside of one of these homes our fox 10 sky fox overhead this scene right now it
[5:07:51]is a very very heavy police presence we believe it's that house that you're taking a look at right there which is the main focus at this time there are communication tactics that go into any
[5:08:03]barricade situation which they are trying to initiate right now as our sky fox flies away here we're going to move in to the other event happening out of the nato
[5:08:15]summit let's go back out to this briefing with president biden and of course uh the spanish president pedro sanchez in madrid here as they are
[5:08:26]outlining the issues that are hitting both countries obviously been numerous changes
[5:08:45]that have affected trust atlantic and relations and relations between spain and the us and that is dear mr president why i'm so happy to announce this new joint declaration
[5:08:57]between the us and spain which will help to strengthen the relations between spain and the us in this declaration we are doing a lot
[5:09:07]of different things first of all we are reinforcing our support for a rules-based international order and it's very important to say that today here in
[5:09:16]madrid as a consequence of the holding of the nato summit here because putin's invasion of ukraine is a clear violation of international law uh direct
[5:09:28]attack on our share values and it demonstrates the need to redouble our efforts to support that rules-based international order and one of the main
[5:09:37]consequences if putin's war has actually been the revitalization of the transatlantic alliance when europe's
[5:09:46]security was at stake what every ally has done including spain has been to respond decisively reinforcing our eastern flank whilst recognizing the threats that come from the southern
[5:09:58]flank and therefore the importance for the alliance to develop everything that's been called the alliance 360 strategy and spain has
[5:10:07]practically the mr president doubled its military presence in latvia with the recent deployment this very week of an entire air defense system in the
[5:10:18]libardis air force base the spanish contingent at latvia is now of 592. and we're also
[5:10:28]taking part in the baltic air police patrols our navy ships are maintaining their presence in the alliances permanent forces and so in total spain
[5:10:40]is participating with its deployments in five nato missions with a total of 1471 forces deployed and in this context in which we're dealing i think with the
[5:10:51]biggest challenge to peace in europe since the end of the cold war today the u.s and spain have committed to strengthen our cooperation in the
[5:11:03]areas of defense and security specifically we have spoken about the us's interest in increasing its presence in rhoda's
[5:11:13]navy base in order to strengthen the alliance's collective security and on the other hand anna's is set down in the joint declaration we have agreed to strengthen the bonds
[5:11:25]between us in the areas of justice cyber security energy security and by the way i'm very grateful to the u.s government and the whole of the us for
[5:11:35]all that lpg that we are receiving in spain and also the management of immigration flows everything that has to do with climate change technology and digital
[5:11:46]transformation so in this update of this joint declaration that was signed back in 2001 we are expanding and reinforcing our bilateral relations
[5:11:56]and we're also of course aware of the importance of the trade relations between our economies and in our respective national recovery plans we
[5:12:06]see an excellent opportunity for us companies in spain and spanish companies in the us and in that context i would like to thank president biden for his
[5:12:18]role in redefining the transatlantic trade relations which over the last year have been able to resolve past differences and embark on a much more
[5:12:28]positive track for getting that past and looking towards the future with hope we also agree on the importance of promoting a positive agenda in latin america
[5:12:39]a region which in the most part uh the region with shared values and together we will be able to better defend a rules-based international order
[5:12:51]together we've also discussed the increasing challenges of a very important region for spain and europe which is the sahel also the role of china in the current geopolitical
[5:13:01]context which will be discussed in the nato summit so we will continue to work together in multilateral for like the un and the g20 in order to promote a coordinated response to all the global
[5:13:12]challenges we have including the climate emergency food security or the architecture of global health after the covet 19 pandemics so overall this visit
[5:13:23]mr president has been a significant turning point in the bilateral relations between our two countries allow me to finish by thanking you for your leadership
[5:13:34]we are pleased to have the u.s back on the side of multilateralism the madrid nato summit will start tomorrow and the decisions that we will
[5:13:44]take will reinforce our transatlantic bond you can count on spain as a solid ally and friend and thank you very much mr president
[5:13:54]well thank you pedro you can count on us as well and uh you know thank you for welcoming me today here and for hosting the nato summit in madrid
[5:14:06]and we have a we had a very warm and personal discussion upstairs and uh one of the things i look forward to is having
[5:14:16]that hour together before we begin the whole conference you know uh we're marking uh 40 years 40 years since spain joined nato
[5:14:27]and becoming an indispensable ally and today we're standing together to defend our shared security and i emphasize shared security strengthen our
[5:14:38]transatlantic alliance and meet the challenges we face today and in the future that's one of the things we're going to be talking about in this meeting this week
[5:14:47]and as president sanchez and i want to talk to you thank you for spain's hospitality for u.s service members and their
[5:14:58]families stationed here in spain mr president you're hosting a truly historic summit and the key moment in our alliance when
[5:15:07]russia's unprovoked invasion of ukraine was shattered peace in europe and shattered every norm since world war ii has been in place
[5:15:17]and i want to thank you personally you for your leadership transatlantic unity has been and will continue to be the greatest strength in our response to
[5:15:26]russia transatlantic security we're standing as one to support ukraine and to enhance our own deterrence and defense capabilities
[5:15:38]and as i said before the war started if putin attacked ukraine the united states would enhance our force posture in europe and respond to the reality of a
[5:15:47]new european security environment earlier this year we we surged additional u.s forces to europe to bolster our alliance in response to
[5:15:59]russia's aggressive actions and for months we've been consulting closely on additional steps the united states will take alongside our allies who are also
[5:16:09]stepping up and strengthening our selective and collective security together the new commitments will constitute an impressive display of ally unity
[5:16:20]and resolve and nato's 360 degree approach to our security i'm looking forward to discussing all of this during the summit but mr president
[5:16:31]you and i discussed today we're going to work on an agreement to increase the number of u.s naval destroyers stationed at spain's road to naval base
[5:16:41]which will also enhance the bilateral defensive relationship between spain and the united states we expect that to occur much sooner than later and i welcome the steps that spain has
[5:16:52]taken in solidarity with our allies that we're facing heightened threats on their borders including sending additional capabilities you referenced
[5:17:03]to latvia thank you mr president and i'll be laying out additional steps the united states is going to take with our nato colleagues as our in our summit
[5:17:12]tomorrow but the bottom line is this together the alliance is threatening its posture is dealing with the threats and strengthening our posture against the
[5:17:23]threats from the east and challenges from the south nato is focused on all directions and domains land air and sea
[5:17:35]and mr president uh we also discussed how the united states and spain and other allies are keeping needed weapons and equipment flowing to ukraine so they they're they're standing up in
[5:17:47]ways that i don't think anyone anticipated showing enormous bravery enormous resolve and we're continuing to tighten sanctions on russia as well we're providing assistance to the
[5:17:57]government of the people of ukraine as they respond to this unprovoked assault on their lives and their democracies sometimes i think putin's objective is just to literally change the entire
[5:18:09]culture wipe out the culture of ukraine the kinds of actions he's taking and i want to particularly thank you mr president and the people of spain for the support you've shown
[5:18:20]in welcoming more than 140 000 ukrainian citizens refuge here in spain that's remarkable it's a testament to your people it's a testament to the spirit and
[5:18:31]resolve of not only the spanish people but of your leadership and to stand up for what is right in a moment of crisis our shared democratic values together with our long history of friendship
[5:18:43]make spain and the united states strong partners on all the issues that we face together in the western hemisphere spain and the united states are working together with other countries in latin
[5:18:54]and caribbean areas to reinforce democratic institutions strengthen the rule of law spread economic prosperity and advance transformative approaches to manage
[5:19:05]migration we're looking to do more together in africa as well to promote stability and economic growth and we reaffirmed our joint commitment
[5:19:16]today to continue to work together on the biggest challenges that affect the people all around the world from covet 19 to climate change
[5:19:25]and we're releasing a joint declaration that reaffirms our shared values reflects the full breadth of our cooperation and
[5:19:34]we have asked our teams to follow up on the substance of the joint declaration so they become known to everyone and so thank you again pedro for your
[5:19:45]friendship and your close partnership and uh we had a good discussion today and i'm looking forward to continued good discussions the remainder of this conference but thank you for your
[5:19:55]hospitality president biden and president sanchez at
[5:20:04]the nato summit out in spain so the president of the united states being hosted out there of course uh following the one that we hosted out here
[5:20:14]in los angeles lots of discussions underway about not only what's going on in ukraine and possible sanctions that can be put up
[5:20:24]against russia but also climate change inflation abortion rights and so much more we'll be highlighting all of that later into the evening we'll also be highlighting some of the breaking news
[5:20:35]from here at home as galen maxwell has been sentenced to 20 years also to pay 750 thousand dollars we'll have details
[5:20:44]after the break [Music]
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[5:22:47]welcome back here to live now from fox a federal judge has sentenced former jeffrey epstein's girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell to 20 years in prison some of maxwell's relatives were in court
[5:22:58]three of her siblings sat directly behind her in the first row here's the latest from what happened in the courtroom from fox's tom graham socialite elaine maxwell will spend the
[5:23:11]next 20 years in a federal prison the former girlfriend of convicted sex offender jeffrey epstein was found guilty in december of 2021 on multiple
[5:23:21]counts of sexual abuse prosecutors say maxwell worked alongside epstein to recruit and groom underage girls as young as 14. they asked judge allison
[5:23:32]nathan to give maxwell anywhere between 30 and 55 years in prison prosecutors say that both Ghislaine Maxwell and jeffrey epstein
[5:23:44]were using their famous people contacts to convince these teenage girls that hey we're really important and powerful
[5:23:54]maxwell's defense team painting a complete opposite picture accusing epstein of being the mastermind prosecutors only focused on their client after epstein committed suicide while
[5:24:04]awaiting trial her lawyer asked for a prison term of 51 to 63 months describing the federal sentencing guidelines as harsh and unnecessary one former survivor slammed the former
[5:24:15]socialite for her lack of accountability saying her life was turned upside down because of the abuse she endured at the hands of maxwell must die in prison
[5:24:27]because i've been in hell and back the last 17 years the fact that she still maintains her innocence is
[5:24:37]is beyond anything i've ever i still can't believe it maxwell intends to appeal her sentencing in new york tom
[5:24:48]graham fox news meanwhile out to georgia where a trafficking and kidnap victim was actually rescued during an ordinary
[5:24:58]traffic stop fox's denise dillon with that story that initial stop was because the driver
[5:25:10]was holding her cell phone while going down the road but an observant officer soon realized there was something much worse going on the intuition of the officer putting
[5:25:21]everything together based on his experience knew something wasn't right a canton police officer pulled over a ban on this road because the driver was on her cell phone investigators say the
[5:25:32]driver was 16 and did not have a driver's license she had a 13 year old girl with her police say the officer asked the young driver a lot of questions which did not add up
[5:25:44]then he spotted unusual items in the van found some thc type vape pins along with some other vape related products as well as a large amount of lingerie
[5:25:55]police say the van they were driving had been stolen from a taxi company in north carolina the officer's suspicions grew back up was called in brought some detectives to the scene to
[5:26:06]help with the interviews and later determined that the 16 year old was bringing the 13 year old to oklahoma to see a gentleman the 16 year old was
[5:26:18]arrested and faces numerous charges including kidnapping and human trafficking it's very serious it's anytime you're taking someone against their will to go somewhere they
[5:26:28]shouldn't be going it's a very serious felony charge canton police say for the sake of the 13-year-old girl they're thankful the officer's experience and intuition
[5:26:39]kicked in but to think about all the bad things that can happen to a young 13 year old being trafficked he could have saved a life investigators still have a lot to
[5:26:49]determine including how the 13 and 16 year olds knew each other and if anyone else was involved the 13-year-old's parents drove from charlotte north
[5:26:59]carolina here to canton to pick her up the 16 year old is in juvenile detention investigators are expected to interview her tomorrow
[5:27:09]in canton denise dillon fox 5 news and staying here at home we want to go back out to some of the latest from the
[5:27:18]bite administration as there is plans in the works to try to provide abortion services for those women who have had their abortion rights banned ever since that
[5:27:30]ruling from the supreme court roe v wade being overturned fox's doug lousader with more about the bind administration's moves everyone from the administration to
[5:27:44]congress to state governments trying to figure out the new legal landscape now as this recent decision from the court takes hold president biden is in europe for g7 and
[5:27:55]nato meetings but back in washington the white house is scrambling we'll continue to make sure that something like medication abortion is made available to all women regardless of what state they're in all of this after the supreme
[5:28:07]court handed down the dobbs v jackson decision rejecting the idea of a constitutional protection for abortion rights and leaving the matter for states
[5:28:16]to decide today we did certify the trigger law it should go into effect july the 7th a number of states move to immediately implement so-called trigger
[5:28:26]laws outlawing abortion south dakota governor christie gnome is even talking about stopping telemedicine appointments to access the abortion pill which is now used in the majority of
[5:28:37]abortions i don't believe that the telemedicine abortions are safe for individuals for women to conduct at home many times they're doing it unsupervised it's a medical procedure that sets the
[5:28:48]table for protracted legal battles and the biden administration is gearing up we will have to take a look at what the dobbs decision means as it plays out no doubt a lot of times we're going to all
[5:28:59]end up in court and to that end judges in utah and louisiana have already temporarily blocked new bans
[5:29:08]in washington doug lousader fox news as you heard briefly in the interview right there health and human services secretary javier becerra announcing
[5:29:18]action in response to the supreme court's decision to overturn roe v wade becerra said this action plan comes at the direction of president biden he called the supreme court's decision a
[5:29:30]quote moment of crisis in health care and vowed to do everything within our legal limit of the law to support patients and providers we want to listen
[5:29:39]in to pasera now they chose to unconsciously limit americans established freedom and autonomy to control their own body decisions usually made in consultation
[5:29:51]with their doctor not a politician and they chose to unconscionably strip away the fundamental health care protections that every american of child bearing age
[5:30:01]has known all their lives friday's supreme court decision was despicable but it was not
[5:30:12]unpredictable hhs has been preparing for this for some time that's why earlier this year we launched our hhs reproductive access task force
[5:30:24]to plan for every action necessary to protect women's access to reproductive health care there is no magic bullet
[5:30:36]but if there is something we can do we will find it and we will do it at hhs indeed that was the instruction i received from the president of the
[5:30:46]united states last friday president biden announced the actions he is taking to ensure medication abortion is available to the fullest extent possible and that women
[5:30:57]can travel safely from states where abortion is now banned to states where abortion is legal here's how hhs will support these issues first
[5:31:08]hhs will take steps to increase access to medication abortion federal law requires our programs to provide medication abortion in certain circumstances such as the life of the
[5:31:20]woman rape or incest now more than ever it is imperative that all federally supported programs and services are complying
[5:31:31]with the law second i am directing the office for civil rights within hhs to ensure patient privacy and non-discrimination for patients seeking reproductive health
[5:31:42]care as well as for providers who often offer that reproductive health care service third i am directing the department to examine its authority under the
[5:31:54]emergency medical treatment and active labor act imtala to ensure that clinical judgment of doctors and hospitals is supported in treating pregnant patients including
[5:32:04]those experiencing pregnancy loss or complications and reaffirming that abortion care can be appropriate to stabilize patients
[5:32:14]fourth i am directing all agencies in my department to work to ensure that all providers from doctors to pharmacists to clinics
[5:32:24]have appropriate training and resources to handle family planning needs including administering patient referrals for care and helping patients navigate this new reality
[5:32:36]fifth i am directing the centers for medicare medicaid services cms to take every legally available step to protect family planning care
[5:32:46]including emergency contraceptives and long-acting reversible contraceptives such as iuds healthcare is a matter to be decided by
[5:32:57]patients and their providers as part of these efforts we will make clear that family planning providers are able to participate in the medicaid program
[5:33:08]these clinics provide safe care and have a vast expertise in providing reproductive health care let me now tell you a little more about
[5:33:19]why i think medication abortion is so critical medication abortion has been approved by the fda for years and is safe for patients
[5:33:30]it is the gold standard for care when someone who's pregnant experiences a miscarriage which is all too real for many expectant mothers across the country i say this as the spouse
[5:33:42]of a more than 30-year high-risk ob gyn the supreme court's decision will result in worsened health outcomes and death for some patients
[5:33:53]working to increase access to this drug is a national imperative and in the public interest we will continue to support the fda and
[5:34:03]its rigorous scientific review for these safe and effective drugs we will also work with the attorney general and the department of justice as they work to ensure that states may not
[5:34:14]ban medication abortion based on a disagreement with the fda's expert judgment about the drug's safety and efficacy and we will issue guidance to providers
[5:34:25]to ensure they receive accurate and robust information on medication abortion the hhs reproductive access task force will report to me on additional
[5:34:36]impactful ways to ensure appropriate information about access to and coverage for sexual and reproductive health care as well as coordinate other
[5:34:46]federal agencies i was at a planned parenthood clinic in st louis missouri on friday morning when the supreme court
[5:34:57]overturned roe v wade i saw in real time the impact of this unconscionable decision the clinical director had to almost
[5:35:08]immediately start turning away patients as the state's ban went into effect this clinic has stopped providing safe
[5:35:16]and legal abortion care people in the room were visibly shaken there were tears and there was this unshakable
[5:35:27]sense of sadness now after my visit to the clinic in st louis i traveled a short distance across the state line
[5:35:38]to another clinic in fairview heights illinois a state that unlike missouri still had lawful abortion care there i visited a site that helps patients get care by providing
[5:35:50]assistance ranging from helping patients find appointments to paying for their travel expenses to providing abortion care it was shocking that in the united
[5:36:00]states of america a short drive can make such a dire and draconian difference in health care outcomes i saw restrictions that lead
[5:36:12]leave women and families on unequal footing and widen maternal health disparities the impact was visible and real this is a critical moment
[5:36:26]in our history how we respond will speak to how we view the rights the dignity and the well-being of women everywhere
[5:36:36]this is a moment of crisis in health care at hhs we will leave no stone unturned all options are on the table
[5:36:47]we will do everything within our legal limit of the law to reach patients and support providers i know we're all tired our hearts are heavy and broken by this loss of rights
[5:36:59]and dignity but now is the time for us to continue moving forward for the many across the country who have lived who live now in banned
[5:37:08]abortion states who lack voice and the representation they need prepare to take any questions you might have and sir you're going to go ahead and
[5:37:29]just select who you're going to select who speaks for me hi shira stein from bloomberg law
[5:37:38]has hhs instructed fda to speed up the process by which pharmacies can get certified to dispense mifapristone and you also mentioned
[5:37:49]access to medication abortion will that include supporting gen biopro's ongoing lawsuit in mississippi the manufacturers arguing that the fda rems preempts mississippi's additional
[5:38:00]restrictions so medication abortion is available drugs like midfield have been shown to be safe and effective
[5:38:10]uh i will let the fda respond to what it will do and what it is uh in the process of doing uh but i certainly will tell you that we are working with the fda to make sure that
[5:38:22]they have every opportunity to continue to provide americans with access to safe and effective treatments we will continue to work with partners
[5:38:31]whether public or private to make sure that women have access to the reproductive care services and treatments that they need hi maya goldman with modern health care
[5:38:49]you mentioned that you're directing ocr to protect privacy for patients and providers can you elaborate on on what that will look like under federal law patients have rights
[5:39:00]to privacy they have rights to access to certain types of care we will make sure that we both investigate and then enforce the law to
[5:39:12]make sure that providers are in compliance that patients are being provided with the care that they deserve we don't want anyone's private health information for
[5:39:23]example to be leaked in ways that violate federal law we also want to make sure that no one misunderstands what the supreme court's ruling on friday in
[5:39:33]dobbs means that they do not believe that they have any rights whatsoever rights continue forward whether it's family planning whether it is in birth control services and we want to make
[5:39:44]sure that there's no misunderstanding and that we will enforce any violations of those rights can you do you have a sense of what specific
[5:39:54]actions to to enforce those will look like though will that be audits surveys what will that possibly look like just as we're keeping every option on the table of what we can try to do we will keep every
[5:40:06]option on the table what we can do to enforce the law okay our next question comes from victoria knight health news thank you oh thank you um
[5:40:18]so congressional democrats are calling for the buying administration to create clinics where people could access abortions on federal lands are there any plans to do so and if so
[5:40:28]where would that be would that be on national park land or would that be in va facilities is that something y'all are looking at thank you thanks victoria um
[5:40:38]what i can tell you is that we are aware of a number of ideas and proposals many of which we have been considering internally ourselves we have made no decisions yet we
[5:40:50]certainly would have conversation with the president to make sure we implement his directives to us in trying to protect women's reproductive health care services but as i said
[5:41:00]every option is on the table we will take a look at everything we can and everything we do will be in compliance with the law okay selena simmons duffin from mpr
[5:41:12]hi um i'm celina simmons stefan from npr um my question is you haven't you've mentioned a bunch of health agencies including fda and cms and the things
[5:41:23]that is happening there i haven't heard you mention cdc and i'm curious about the public health impact um in this case i mean a lot of experts are
[5:41:33]warning that pregnant people are gonna die um and cdc does prevention and looks at public health big picture so what
[5:41:43]actions could cdc be doing or what is happening on that front and i won't pretend to be able to speak eloquently for everything cdc can do and i so i
[5:41:54]know you'll pose the question directly to cdc but this is what i can tell you they are in the business of prevention they are in the business of education and information and i guarantee you that we will be using every agency
[5:42:06]including cdc to make sure that we are getting to americans the information they need so they can exercise their rights and so cdc will obviously play an important role especially as we look at
[5:42:17]this on a grander scale of the impact to public health okay we'll take another question at this point let's see
[5:42:26]cheryl stolberg new york times hi i'm cheryl stolberg from the new york times um two questions first with respect to medication abortion is it the position of the department that
[5:42:38]because the fda has approved these pills that any doctor in any state may prescribe them and then second with respect to planned parenthood you know that planned parenthood has
[5:42:50]been excluded from medicaid family planning programs in certain states including missouri and is it the department's position that those exclusions are a violation of federal
[5:43:00]law and so cheryl because those are somewhat precise questions i'm going to try to give you as precise an answer as i believe at this stage at least i can
[5:43:11]and with my legal counsel in front of me i want to make sure i stay within my lane fda has found
[5:43:24]medication abortion treatments like pristone safe and effective in this country
[5:43:34]in order for drugs to be made available to the american public the fda must act consider that drug
[5:43:45]and announce whether or not it has found it to be safe and effective mifopristone those medications that may be classified as medication
[5:43:56]abortion that have received fda's approval as safe and effective are therefore available for prescription i what i won't do in answering your
[5:44:08]question is tell you what precisely that means because i want to as i said before we're going to stay within the confines of the law even though it's a law that i personally believe jeopardizes the
[5:44:19]health of women we will stay within the confines of the law i want to make sure that whatever we tell you is within the confines of the law medication abortion
[5:44:30]those treatments that fda has signed off on is safe and effective are available to be prescribed under what conditions stay tuned on the second question which was
[5:44:41]i can hear you yeah the second question was um planned parenthood contends that its exclusion from state family planning programs violates federal law and do you agree that that violates federal law
[5:44:52]under our laws our federal laws there are certain services that must be made available to those who are receiving care under
[5:45:02]programs administered or funded by this by the federal government that includes in some cases abortion services under certain conditions
[5:45:13]we will make sure that if a state is utilizing federal funds under federal programs health healthcare programs that they respect the laws
[5:45:24]at the federal level and would in which in many cases include abortion care services under certain conditions we're going to take another question now
[5:45:32]rachel nagel of abc news i'm mary bruce with abc news thank you mr secretary um so far you seem to have been restating largely existing policy
[5:45:44]reminding americans of the assistance that is available but you yourself just said this decision was not unpredictable when can we expect more concrete steps to be announced what's the holdup here
[5:45:55]or are you acknowledging that your hands are largely tied mary it's uh it was a long decision and it it did up end
[5:46:06]50 years of precedent and so you want to make sure that what you do is within as i said the confines of the law we're not interested in going rogue
[5:46:16]and doing things just because we want to make sure what we tell americans is accurate because we hear we know americans are hearing a lot of
[5:46:25]inaccurate information and so to every american who's impacted my apologies that i as i said i we can't tell you there's a silver bullet
[5:46:35]but what i am saying to you is that the more we dig we will do everything we can with what we find to make sure we're protecting women's reproductive health care services it it takes a little time
[5:46:46]because we want to do it right and we want to do it according to the law and just one follow you mentioned yesterday that you're looking at possible ways to help women with transportation women who may need to travel to another state to get an abortion
[5:46:58]what options are on the table are we you considering vouchers things like that and how do you ensure that it doesn't conflict with the hyde amendment yeah once we tell you exactly what we believe we are
[5:47:09]able to do have the money to do we will let you know but until then what i can simply say to you is every option is on the table thank you one more question it looks like we'll
[5:47:20]move to the third row yeah thank you chapala luther with kaiser with the 19th sorry about that um
[5:47:31]i want to go back to the question about preemption in particular are you in the doj thinking seriously about filing a lawsuit that might challenge state laws banning access to
[5:47:41]medication abortion given the fda's approval and as a follow-up to that for the folks who are concerned about being criminalized if they do take memphis preston and go to the er
[5:47:51]are you prepared to defend them in court we will certainly assert and defend our legal authorities
[5:48:01]we will certainly enforce federal law we will absolutely protect americans rights to care under federal law
[5:48:12]and we will do everything we can to make sure americans understand what their rights are what exactly that translates into
[5:48:22]depends on what a state tries to do and what i can simply tell you is that we will continue to try to clarify for you but mostly for the american public
[5:48:32]what their rights are what our authorities are and so that way they know if indeed anyone whether a state politician or a
[5:48:42]provider in your state is violating your rights we'll try to be there and we'll try to make it clear what your rights are but it's tough to answer some of these questions more precisely until we know exactly what the states are doing
[5:48:53]if we see a state for example trying to deny a particular patient care in an emergency room which could include abortion care services if it's
[5:49:04]appropriate to preserve that woman's life or health we will take action we will do everything we can but we have to make sure first americans know what their rights are and so that's why this
[5:49:16]is so important because we know that there is misinformation out there about what the supreme court did we want to make sure it's clear that americans didn't lose every right they have
[5:49:26]americans still can assert their rights and we will do everything we can to protect them we have heard uh cases uh we have heard
[5:49:46]reports and complaints we are going to move as aggressively as we can under the law to both investigate and then enforce
[5:49:55]we have to be able to enforce based on the law and so we have to make sure we've collected the evidence but we are intent on protecting people's rights under the law
[5:50:06]okay thank you secretary um we're going to conclude and we're happy to follow up with any other questions later thank you thank you all very much secretary of health and human services
[5:50:17]there javier vasira um at the department today taking questions from reporters uh really in the most lengthy remarks we've heard from him since the supreme court overturned roe v
[5:50:29]wade on friday of last week and there he was getting a lot of questions about the seeming contradictions and complexities with the fda that has approved what's
[5:50:40]known as a medication abortion that pill known as mifa press stone and how that tracks with some states who have outlawed that availability that medication to
[5:50:51]women in a lot of these states that have trigger laws that have gone into effect or are working their ways through state courts at the moment as we continue to follow the fallout
[5:51:02]from the overturning of roe v wade live now look at the white house here and you heard from a number of cabinet secretaries there becerra included about ways
[5:51:11]to expand access to make abortion access available for some women who are in states where it is not available anymore but a lot of these states have enacted their trigger laws
[5:51:23]like i said a federal court today allowed tennessee to ban abortions as early as six weeks into pregnancy while in texas a judge temporarily blocked an even
[5:51:33]stricter decades-old law from taking effect statewide bans or other restrictions that were either left on the books for generations tied up by legal challenges
[5:51:43]or specifically designed to take effect if roe were to fall are now in play as a result of last week's supreme court ruling since friday judges have agreed to allow bans or
[5:51:54]other restrictions to take effect in alabama ohio south carolina and tennessee but abortion bans remain temporarily blocked in some states like
[5:52:04]louisiana texas and utah decisions are pending in other places including florida and indiana and abortion rights advocates also dropped some of their legal efforts in states
[5:52:15]like minnesota and missouri in a minute we're going to hear from officials in minnesota but right now there's a live now look at the white house you've been hearing from vice president harris from
[5:52:25]president biden about what can the federal levers of power in the government do to expand abortion access to women who live
[5:52:36]in states where now it is no longer legal uh in the meantime let's move on to some more of these kind of abortion related stories you want to head out now to fox 26 in houston they spoke with an
[5:52:48]expert about the economic impact especially in the state of texas about abortions no longer being legal there well the overturning of roe v wade could
[5:52:59]have more than just a political fallout in states that now ban abortions like here in texas yeah some experts are warning there could be financial and economic consequences as well so here
[5:53:10]this morning we've got fox 26 political analyst mark jones with rice university mark thanks for joining us a recent study found that women who have
[5:53:20]to carry an unwanted pregnancy were four times more likely to struggle with poverty so how does a state like texas help women overcome these types of issues especially when it comes to
[5:53:32]daycare which we know can be a major hurdle for women being able to go to work and earn a paycheck well i think for with the recent ruling we first probably need to wait and see what the overall
[5:53:43]consequence is going to be for the number of abortions that take place in texas which right now is unknown uh prior to uh the six-month law that was passed the heartbeat bill we had
[5:53:55]approximately 50 000 abortions per year in texas what we don't know is going to occur is in the aftermath of the dobbs decision
[5:54:06]how how many is it going to be reduced in terms of how many of those women are going to have their baby to term as opposed to going out of state for the abortion or getting a medical abortion until we see those numbers it's going to
[5:54:17]be really tough to predict the overall economic consequence as well as the overall consequence for abortion and the number of abortions that take place
[5:54:26]among texas women well if it is excuse me if it does inequitably affect um you know women or families of a lower income level lower income bracket maybe
[5:54:37]closer or below the poverty line i'm wondering when it comes to like expenses like welfare wic benefits medicare that is something that comes out of you know everyone's pocketbook would we expect
[5:54:49]those prices and and those expenditures to rise uh there may be an increase in that type of child care in terms of with payments and child
[5:55:00]support because we do know that many of the women who probably will will end up not having an abortion who otherwise would have had an abortion or lower income which would mean more children to
[5:55:11]lower income households would be more snap or food stamp payments or which payments so there could be greater welfare expenditures and that's one of the consequences that i think the legislature needs to take into account
[5:55:22]in 2023 is that with this uh change there may be more demand for social services among lower income texans and
[5:55:33]hopefully the state will provide additional resources for that if not then they're going to be creating further levels of poverty in the state so with that expectation are there ways that we are already aware of that texas
[5:55:44]would help balance that out because we could be looking at a huge deficit well i think you know what some of the principle ways to do it would be expanding the amount of resources
[5:55:55]available for lower income families uh universal pre-k uh more subsidized day care uh better health care services and prenatal care
[5:56:05]for lower income texans such as by expanding medicaid under the affordable care act where texas remains one of only 11 states that has not yet done that and certainly is the largest state so those
[5:56:17]are things that texas could do during the 2023 legislative session to help prepare the state for the larger number of live bursts that we're going to have compared to what would have been the case uh prior to the overturning of roe
[5:56:28]v long term one of the questions that was coming up online is is maybe students looking to enroll in schools would opt to spend their tuition dollars in another state um you know maybe as a
[5:56:40]protest also the possibility that employers or employees might look to other states and like larger events like you know maybe the nra would still have an event here but maybe the world cup would withdraw to a different state and
[5:56:52]that would be a loss of income that's always a possibility that as you can in terms of relocation by corporations and play in any groups that are holding conventions
[5:57:03]and look i'd be a little less concerned about that related to roe v wade and much more concerned if the supreme court makes similar rulings related to lgbtq rights such as an obergfell which
[5:57:15]guarantees gay marriage and a large which care it was a lot of the anti-sodomy laws that used to exist if those were to be overturned then i think the repercussions would be much more
[5:57:26]severe in terms of corporate relocation and conventions although texas always does run the risk that if it gets uh red flagged by uh progressive groups you may start to see some corporations not want
[5:57:38]to move here or some groups not want to hold events such as conventions here and then we can see some uh ramifications there although those yeah those are much more likely
[5:57:48]though if you see anti-lgbtq legislation than abortion legislation though all right mark jones thank you for that insight and joining us this morning sure it's my pleasure
[5:57:59]okay i hope you enjoyed that conversation there talking about the economic impact the overturning of roe v wade is going to have specifically uh they are in the state of texas uh we thank fox 26 in houston i'm andrew craft
[5:58:11]we have a lot more uh abortion related headlines left to get to uh it's still historic the fallout continues protests still happening in in cities across the country as well we're going to take a quick commercial break though when we
[5:58:22]come back we'll be going out to panama city beach florida as so many beach towns and authorities there are trying to crack down on summer crime we'll have that
[5:58:32]story in just a moment [Music]
[6:00:34]welcome back here to live now from fox on this tuesday afternoon live now look there in new york city right across from the fox news world headquarters there in midtown manhattan you can see radio city
[6:00:44]music hall summer is in full swing in new york city it's also in full swing and so many of these beach towns further south but several of these towns across
[6:00:54]the united states are imposing curfews to crack down on summer crime especially involving teenagers and law enforcement agencies are blaming part of the problem
[6:01:04]on social media joining me now from one of those beach towns panama city beach florida fox's rebecca castor rebecca it's a great scenery behind you but what
[6:01:14]are law enforcement doing to make sure that even the fourth of july holiday this weekend is safe andrew here in panama city one problem
[6:01:24]section of the beach closes at 10 p.m because of underage drinking fights and a shooting that took place over spring break it's the first time that officials here have extended their spring break
[6:01:36]curfew into the summer [Music] when you get one or two people on the beach not an issue you get two to five typically no problems you get 200 to 500
[6:01:47]people down there in the dark it becomes an issue the panama city beach police chief says social media is changing the game for teenagers
[6:01:57]organizing unruly summer parties it's a strain on our resources when you have strangers able to send one message out and now congregate
[6:02:07]at one specific time that's exactly what happened earlier this month in another florida panhandle beach town snapchat videos show a massive group of teenagers at a party
[6:02:18]inside a multi-million dollar home there was boxing in the living room and the teens posing with the homeowner's expensive jewelry the walton county sheriff's office says the partygoers
[6:02:28]broke in while the homeowners were away there's no doubt that from our investigation so far that it was planned we're really trying to focus our efforts on who organized and who hosted the event social media safety consultant
[6:02:40]josh oaks says it's simple for videos of kids participating in illegal activity to go viral and for a party of five to turn into 500 in minutes if it's more
[6:02:50]exciting it shoots up in the algorithm 30 years ago you could break the law and nobody would find out now you can carry out devious actions like we've seen recently and bring all of your peers
[6:03:01]along for the ride teen parties getting out of hand have also led to beach curfews along the
[6:03:09]jersey shore and virginia's coast andrew yeah rebecca that's so interesting you know the use of tick-tock the use of social media but for law enforcement who want to hold some of these teens
[6:03:20]accountable how do they do that i know they have the social media footage but how do they go about finding these people well in walton county the sheriff's
[6:03:30]office they blasted all those videos and photos on their facebook page and since then that post has been shared hundreds of times and they have actually had
[6:03:39]parents call them themselves and say hey my kid was there we're trying to get ahead of this we've seen it all over facebook you know what do we do from here so that has been the tactic that they're using here
[6:03:50]locally wow so rowdy spring break now turning into rowdy summer there uh rebecca thanks so much for this report we'll talk to you again thank you
[6:04:02]okay right now we do want to get back into some of these health related headlines at the moment we have a cool live now look from the white house there you can see the washington monument in full view as well uh just a little bit
[6:04:14]after the seven o'clock hour there in the nation's capital remember we were just listening into health and human services secretary javier becerra and he was getting asked a lot of questions
[6:04:23]about how does the fda square its uh authorized medication abortion pill known as mifa preston with some of these states who have either outlawed
[6:04:34]that pill or are trying to outlaw it and so we are going to go out to one of our stations with a report on how women are also rationing plan b as well in
[6:04:44]relation and the aftermath of the roe v wade over attorney here's that report days after the u.s supreme court
[6:04:55]overturned roe v wade michigan is one state where abortions can still legally be performed we want to be very clear that the injunction that planned parenthood of
[6:05:06]michigan won against the 1931 abortion ban still stands abortion is legal in michigan and we are scheduling appointments our doors are open but what
[6:05:17]about women who want the abortion process to take place at home away from the doctor's office it's called telehealth abortions which are medication-based abortions that rely on
[6:05:28]pills like mifa preston telemedicine medication abortion is legal in the state of michigan as of right now but what would happen if the 1931 ban goes into effect and abortion is illegal in
[6:05:39]michigan right now folks who may live rurally can potentially access care closer through telemedicine medication abortion than they might otherwise as a physician if i were constrained by the
[6:05:49]1931 life there weren't an injection right now i wouldn't be able to send those medications through the mail in michigan or give them in person if a pristone use would not be legal under
[6:06:00]michigan's 1931 ban fox 2 reached out to michigan's attorney general dana nessel's office and was told that at this time they are not providing additional comments after releasing a
[6:06:11]statement on monday which reads in part despite the supreme court's ruling last week i remain committed to ensuring a woman's right to choose and will continue to fight against every attempt
[6:06:22]to limit access to care doctors say women who are seeking abortions should know their rights and what they have access to there are certainly some ways that folks can access medication
[6:06:33]abortion outside the traditional health care system through websites like aid access but for now these doctors just want to focus on providing abortion care while it's still
[6:06:43]legal in michigan the injunction is allowing me and my colleagues to continue to provide the care that we would ordinarily provide in salfield
[6:06:54]ingrid kelly fox 2 news and we thank fox 2 detroit there michigan one of these states where really the future of abortion access
[6:07:05]is in limbo and this is happening in a number of states across the country other states of course with outright bans put in place trigger laws we're going to get an update from one of our reporters at the bottom of the hour about efforts
[6:07:17]on that front as well let's go out now to minnesota and they had speakers talking about abortion rights there in that state and about how it has changed
[6:07:27]or not changed since friday's overturning um
[6:07:43]i think there's there's confusion there's fear there's anger but that's starting to manifest manifest itself into what can we do what can we do to ensure that women's
[6:07:54]health care is a priority what can we do to ensure safe accessible legal affordable abortions and long
[6:08:05]and health care um and i think the biggest thing that we would say is first and foremost uh minnesota's surrounded by states that have already made the move or will make
[6:08:14]the move making abortion illegal in all circumstances and uh in minnesota we have made very clear not on our watch biggest thing i think keep in mind is
[6:08:25]reproductive rights are on the ballot in november the stakes are clear they could not be higher governor's office is now the last line of defense against an abortion ban in minnesota
[6:08:35]the difference between my position and my opponent's extremism could not be clear to be very clear and i know our folks here with the media are very clear to fact check and get things right
[6:08:47]scott jensen has pledged to ban abortion without exception for rape and incest my pledge is never in minnesota scott jensen has his way minnesota would become one of the most anti-choice
[6:08:58]states in the nation abortion is legal in minnesota but that could change in november we're already seeing what happens when the anti-choice governors take over a state we now saw the ruling in north dakota that their
[6:09:10]last clinic in fargo will be forced to close on july 28th the good news is minnesota stands ready to help anyone minnesota stands ready to
[6:09:20]show the care compassion and the health care ability to be able to take care each and every person who comes so make no mistake about it in november you're going to get an opportunity to
[6:09:32]make a choice if my opponent scott jensen is elected those rights are gone i want to lay out some ways to make people sure about what a governor can do or
[6:09:43]do to ban abortion scott jensen has promised to sign an abortion ban into law with no exception for rape or incest if you don't think
[6:09:52]that these anti-choice anti-health care bills are real governor dayton was forced to veto eight of those in a time when roe stood
[6:10:04]so if you don't think it's coming it absolutely is scott jensen's pledge to appoint anti-choice judges to our state supreme court who would overturn doe versus
[6:10:14]gomez i will never appoint an anti-choice judge at any level and finally an anti-choice governor like scott jensen could use the platform to
[6:10:24]advocate for and manipulate the additional constitutional amendment to ban abortion in all circumstances including rape and incest as long as i'm
[6:10:35]governor that will not happen and just to be clear i do not use the term extreme position just lightly the fact of the matter is
[6:10:44]80 percent of minnesotans disagree with a ban that does not exclude rape and incest 66 percent of republicans
[6:10:56]disagree with scott jensen's position that would harm women put their lives at risk and send minnesota backwards so i know that there are millions across this state who are watching this
[6:11:07]decision closely if you're one of those people if you're a father like i am of a 21 year old daughter who wonders what's next contraception marriage equality
[6:11:18]women's rights to work in the workplace equal pay all of the things i saw an article in today's paper it was a hundred years ago this year that minnesota elected the first women to the
[6:11:28]state legislature now we have a majority lieutenant governor and i have appointed sixty percent of our judge appointments have been women this move takes us back and all of those
[6:11:38]rights arrest are at risk the hopes and dreams of an entire generation of young women like my daughter who has less rights than her mother
[6:11:49]or even her grandmother are coming the good news is we can do a lot about that we've got about four months to mobilize folks to get out
[6:12:00]to cast that vote against these extreme positions and to make sure that minnesota continues to be a state that values women that values health care
[6:12:10]that values their safety that values the science and make sure that we don't go in the direction that we've seen some of these states or that our opponent wants
[6:12:21]to take us i rest easy every night knowing that we've got a champion in minnesota who has spent her entire life making sure that children and families
[6:12:31]are cared for make sure her entire life has been fighting for equality and access to everything that should be available to every single person in
[6:12:41]minnesota lieutenant governor flanagan well good morning i'm lieutenant governor peggy flanagan i
[6:12:52]am the mom of a nine-year-old little girl a nine-year-old little girl who has fewer rights than i did and fewer rights than her grandmother
[6:13:03]did i have said before that i enjoy running on a ticket with a governor who listens to women that has never been more important than today
[6:13:15]because now we are one election away from losing our reproductive rights the supreme court's disastrous ruling leaves
[6:13:24]minnesotans with a very clear choice scott jensen and matt burke have promised to pass one of the most extreme
[6:13:33]abortion bans in the country i cannot think of a policy that is more cruel than forcing a victim of rape or incest
[6:13:45]to carry their pregnancy to term but that is exactly what scott jensen has promised to do minnesota is now a refuge for countless
[6:13:56]people who will need access to abortion throughout the upper midwest but will be unable to get one done in their home state we cannot allow the republican ticket to
[6:14:07]turn minnesota from a safe harbor for abortion access to one of the most extreme anti-choice states in the entire
[6:14:16]country we owe it to the women who came before us we owe it to the people who came before us who fought for this right to fight like hell and to do everything in our power
[6:14:28]to maintain the right to choose and we know that it won't stop with abortion clarence thomas made it very
[6:14:37]clear that marriage equality is next on the chopping block access to contraception is next on the chopping block
[6:14:47]when i was working to defeat the ban on same-sex marriage in minnesota i was very pregnant with my daughter siobhan
[6:14:58]and i remember at that same time matt burke was leading the charge against marriage equality after they have taken away abortion
[6:15:08]rights why would these men who have gone after trans youth and blocked a ban on conversion therapy why wouldn't they go after marriage next
[6:15:19]so we cannot go backwards this choice is very very clear and as long as we are in the governor's office we won't
[6:15:29]so with that i want to invite one of our partners who has just been crystal clear and her commitment to ensuring that
[6:15:39]minnesotans have access to abortion and that is maggie meyer executive director of pro-choice minnesota hi my name is maggie meyer i use she her
[6:15:50]pronouns and i am the executive director of pro-choice minnesota i'm super excited to be here today and very very grateful to governor walls and lieutenant governor flanagan for their protection of our rights for their
[6:16:01]executive order that went beyond any other executive order i have seen come from a governor of this state in protecting the rights of pregnant people to terminate their abortions or
[6:16:11]terminate their pregnancies pro-trace minnesota uh formerly naval pro-choice minnesota is one of the oldest advocacy and grassroots movement
[6:16:21]building organizations organizing around uh the right to choose and the right to an abortion in minnesota we've been doing this work since before roe versus wade was the rule of the land and we will
[6:16:32]continue doing so now that it's no longer something we can depend on we want to make it crystal clear abortion is legal in minnesota it will continue to stay legal and we can thank
[6:16:43]the governor and lieutenant governor for that but there is so much more work that we need to do abortion will remain legal here um but it will not in north dakota in south
[6:16:52]dakota in wisconsin likely in michigan iowa and nebraska we are the only state in the upper midwest that means that we will see a 400 percent increase in
[6:17:03]patients coming from out of state to the only eight clinics that provide abortion care in this state there's only one of those clinics that currently provides second trimester care we will of course
[6:17:13]have nine now that um the red river women's clinic is moving from fargo to moorhead but that is simply not enough only two of those clinics serve greater minnesota one in rochester and one in duluth
[6:17:25]immediate bands in effect as of today are in alabama oklahoma texas missouri arkansas south dakota utah and iowa
[6:17:37]oh sorry ohio excuse me we know that there are 27 states that have pre-row bans that will go into effect or trigger bans that have been
[6:17:46]passed since 1973 that will impact people's right to choose all of those states will be looking to states like minnesota to serve patients coming from
[6:17:56]across the country the impacts of this decision will fall hardest on people who already face discriminatory obstacles in health care particularly black indigenous and other
[6:18:07]people of color people with disabilities people in rural areas young people undocumented people and those living in poverty we also know that because this decision is under the
[6:18:18]14th amendment the supreme court has made it clear that all of our most personal decisions who we marry when we have children and how we build
[6:18:27]our family families are at risk every single statewide republican candidate is celebrating the decision and they have each expressed support for ending the right for um of minnesotans
[6:18:38]to choose scott jensen has said if elected he already plans to ban abortion scott jensen also supports a texas-style law that bans abortion as early as six weeks and allows strangers to collect a ten
[6:18:49]thousand dollar bounty for reporting women who have abortions and put women and doctors in jail matt burke has also said that after the kkk planned parenthood is the most
[6:18:59]racist organization in america and that abortion is not going to heal a rape victim it is dangerous to elect these people not only that but they are willing to
[6:19:10]exploit people at their most vulnerable in seeking pregnancy care to it as political fodder we are better than that as minnesotans and we must re-elect our governor and lieutenant governor
[6:19:21]thank you and i think tippy is next i'm actually going to have jess oh good you just
[6:19:31]take it easy tippy um and with that i'm going to bring up jessica ralph who's the medical director at whole women's health a clinic that
[6:19:39]provides abortion care services good morning my name is jessica ralph
[6:19:49]i am an obstetrician gynecologist and an abortion provider i take care of women and people with uteruses from adolescence through maturity including pregnancy care
[6:20:01]it's really a joy to care for someone throughout their life at important moments like cancer screening the birth of their children or menopause
[6:20:11]and i came to be an obstetrician gynecologist that provides full spectrum health care including abortion care because of my strong desire to support
[6:20:21]the autonomy of pregnant individuals to make their own health care decisions and determine their own futures currently our state our governor and
[6:20:32]lieutenant governor support minnesotans autonomy but a change in our elected officials as everyone has said could lead to restrictions on abortion
[6:20:43]like a ban potentially with only narrow exceptions like threat to the life of the pregnant person i wish to share with you how those exceptions provide a false sense of
[6:20:53]security that people will get appropriate medical care when they need it i've previously worked in health care facilities that privately because of
[6:21:03]religious restrictions adhere to such narrow health care practices and when permissible abortion is defined so vaguely health of the pregnant person
[6:21:15]or health of the mother it's really impossible to apply in most situations to real patients i once took care of a person that i'll call ashley
[6:21:25]ashley's water broke in the very early second trimester months before viability could be obtained by the fetus
[6:21:34]in such cases it's exceedingly rare that pregnancy will result in a living child and almost assured that the pregnant person themselves will developing like
[6:21:45]develop life-threatening infection if they remain pregnant okay this doctor there in the state of
[6:21:52]minnesota extolling the benefits of types of abortion procedures that would protect the life excuse me of the mother in an event where
[6:22:04]it is threatened we also were hearing from minnesota governor tim walls as well as we continue to monitor the fallout after roe v wade was overturned on friday by the supreme
[6:22:15]court upending almost 50 years of a constitutional precedent that set a right for a woman to choose whether or not to get an abortion and now that has been kicked to
[6:22:26]the states so we're about to get a live report at the bottom of the hour about what certain states are now doing remember some had trigger laws in place where a ban on abortion or restrictions on
[6:22:36]abortion went immediately into effect some though with trigger laws have not worked them out entirely and so they are working through state courts at the moment and so that was minnesota
[6:22:47]and how they are handling this as so many states are we want to move into some other health related stories before that live report
[6:22:56]in nashville fox 13 in tampa remember we have been following what the fda has been planning to do to take jewel the e-cig maker off the market now a judge
[6:23:07]put that on hold but what does this mean for the case itself what does this mean for joule here's this story days after the fda banned the sale of
[6:23:18]juul products here in the u.s the company has filed an appeal which means jewell can continue to sell its e-cigarettes and flavored pods until a court weighs in well the concern from
[6:23:28]the fda is there just isn't enough evidence to know what kind of health risks that vaping can pose especially to young people they're very popular with young people so joining us right now to
[6:23:38]talk about this is dr brenda juan she's the medical director respiratory care at tampa general also an assistant professor at usf and i i'm sure that you have seen these patients firsthand at
[6:23:50]tgh so what kind of issues do you see related to vaping especially with young people i think yeah thank you for having me this evening
[6:24:00]well we start to see more frequently some lung related diseases and acute lung injury which is a condition that we've named e-valley just stands for
[6:24:10]e-cigarette associated or vaping products associated lung disease these patients can get really sick and i've had um unfortunately the opportunity to
[6:24:21]take care of them in the intensive care unit sometimes these patients require either non-invasive positive pressure ventilation to help with the supporting ventilation which is the breathing or in
[6:24:33]other times this patient may require more advanced and support like intubation it's just like putting a breathing tube down until that inflammation in the lungs
[6:24:44]it could be bad then for sure the fda is laboratory the fda blames joel for igniting what it considers this youth a vaping epidemic do you think it has had that kind of
[6:24:55]effect on young people is it that that bad i think he looks very appealing to the young population i think the main impact isn't like it is like a fashion
[6:25:07]something that's like catchy and people start to use it and they don't know the underlying effects the main concern is addiction
[6:25:14]and like this can affect long uh lung problems and also brain development specifically because brain development can go up to like mid-20s and it can
[6:25:26]impact of damaging brain areas that can control areas that are implicated in learning mood impulse control and what about this idea that joule
[6:25:38]argues well vaping helps regular smokers you know quit the nicotine habit so do you buy that argument well yeah i think like vaping is
[6:25:48]supposed to be less harm in somebody that's already smoking which they are getting we definitely know that smoking is bad and can is related to cancer and chronic
[6:26:00]lung disease and if this is going to mitigate or like help them to come off that could be their argument but neither smoking or vaping
[6:26:10]is harmless to human health so vaping bad in its own way is what i think our takeaway is from from you yes definitely stay away from vaping okay thank you so
[6:26:21]much dr brenda juan with tampa general usf health thanks for joining us today hope you found that informative as well as we track this as it works its way through the
[6:26:32]court there remember that judge putting that ban on jewels on the market on hold so we'll see what comes of that uh in the meantime this is a beautiful live now look
[6:26:43]at the white house at the washington monument just want to update you on yet another health related story we got some more clarity on today from health and human services secretary javier
[6:26:54]becerra announcing a nationwide vaccination strategy to mitigate the spread of monkey pox the strategy will quote vaccinate and protect those at risk of monkey pox prioritize vaccines
[6:27:05]for areas with the highest number of cases and provide guidance to state territorial tribal and local health officials to aid their planning and response efforts the united states is
[6:27:16]allocating 296 000 doses of the monkey pox vaccine over the coming weeks 56 000 of which will be allocated immediately over the coming
[6:27:25]months a combined 1.6 million additional doses will become available that's according to the white house so we'll track this uh monkey pox outbreak
[6:27:36]as well of course nowhere near as serious uh as the covert 19 outbreak uh and the pandemic that we have all lived under for the last two years uh in the meantime we are going to take a quick commercial break
[6:27:48]like i said afterward we'll be getting a live report from nashville on an update about certain states uh as they either fight to upend some of these abortion
[6:27:57]restrictions delay them or put them in place we'll have a live report in just a moment [Music]
[6:29:25][Music] bottom of the hour here on this tuesday
[6:30:06]afternoon i'm andrew kraft welcome back here to live now from fox as we are about to head out to nashville tennessee where as you know this morning we just showed javier becerra's remarks in full the department of health and human
[6:30:18]services announced its response to the supreme court's reversal of roe v wade becerra shared details about access to abortion pills and whether the white
[6:30:28]house can help women travel to states where abortion is legal fox's austin westfall joining us now to talk about this and so much more austin good to see
[6:30:38]you what did you learn so andrew as far as abortion pills go becerra said that federal law says that those pills can be given out to anybody
[6:30:48]in any state as long as they meet some specific requirements those requirements are in the cases of rape incest or if the mother's life is at stake now
[6:30:58]becerra explained that all federally supported programs and services should be complying with that law regardless of the state you're from but he did stop short of guaranteeing that all states
[6:31:09]will comply he says ultimately it might still depend on each state's policies we will continue to try to clarify for you but mostly for the american public
[6:31:20]what their rights are what our authorities are and so that way they know if indeed anyone whether a state politician or a
[6:31:30]provider in your state is violating your rights we'll try to be there and we'll try to make it clear what your rights are now on monday a louisiana court blocked
[6:31:40]enforcement of the state's trigger bans on abortion allowing the procedure to resume for now in louisiana a similar suit was brought up in utah on monday and another in texas today on the flip side today in tennessee a federal court
[6:31:52]announced that it will allow the state to ban abortions as early as six weeks into a pregnancy so here are the states where abortion is protected by law aside from these states basera was asked about
[6:32:03]using federal land like national parks or va facilities to build abortion clinics he says the administration is considering the idea but no decisions have been made yet the sarah was also
[6:32:14]asked if the white house will help people travel to protected states to get abortions he kept that answer vague saying that they're still looking into what powers they have in that scenario they're also looking into what kind of money they have to spend on things like
[6:32:25]that but ultimately by sarah's saying that all the options are still on the table andrew yeah also this is what's so interesting about the overturning now is it does
[6:32:36]kick it back to the states but the states really a lot of them and you just showed uh don't really have the mechanisms in place uh the legal framework in place to either restrict to
[6:32:48]fight the legal battles that are going on to allow abortion access or at least more out of these restrictions and so uh it's going to be interesting this patrick you you mentioned in your report
[6:32:58]as well you know can federal lands uh can federal facilities what does the department of defense do things like that so um there's a long way to go on
[6:33:08]this and a lot of questions still absolutely and one thing we kept hearing the secretary say over and over during that presser was we just want to make
[6:33:18]sure that we are working within the la within the lines of things that are legal they want to make sure that they're checking into everything to make sure that what they're doing is by the books this these are very complicated
[6:33:29]matters and each state has its own set of very complicated policies no doubt these are all things that becerra and his team are going to be looking into going forward all right fox's austin westfall there
[6:33:40]live for us in nashville austin thanks for your report and we'll talk to you again thanks andrew okay we do want to move on here uh to some of these other top headlines on
[6:33:51]this tuesday afternoon live now look at the u.s capitol where man that was a bombshell testimony today from cassidy hutchinson she was the former aide to white house chief of
[6:34:02]staff mark meadows she was instrumental she was there while it all happened kind of highlighting what was said highlighting the responses the reactions of not only former
[6:34:14]president trump but also the white house legal counsel pat sipoloni then chief of staff mark meadows and so many others fox 13 in tampa has a look back a summary of what you might have missed in
[6:34:24]the hearing today now to the bombshell revolutions today in the january 6th committee hearing a top former white house aide just testified that former president trump
[6:34:35]knew some of his supporters were armed that day and yet demanded that security stop using metal detectors and let them in to hear his speech we also heard claims among many other
[6:34:46]things that the president lunged at a secret service agent who would not drive him to the capitol during the siege fox 13's political editor craig patrick joining us now live craig this was
[6:34:57]stunning testimony from cassidy hutchinson she's the top aide for mr former trump former president trump's chief of staff mark meadows and just a lot to kind of parse through today from
[6:35:08]this there is and for context meadows is not cooperating with the january 6 committee but hutchinson certainly is she's already given four interviews prior to today to the committee but she saved her
[6:35:20]most striking accounts at least publicly in terms of what transpired before and during the insurrection in her remarks just a couple of hours ago yes there is
[6:35:31]a lot to work through here let's start with what she said chief of staff meadows president trump told her before the attack there's a lot going on guess but i don't know
[6:35:43]things might get real real bad on january 6. the committee showed how cassidy hutchinson worked steps away from the oval office and was in direct dialogue with or with an earshot of discussions
[6:35:54]relating to january 6. she testified the trump white house had been warned of the potential for violence that day then we heard some attending the former president's speech were showing up with semi-automatic rifles handguns and other
[6:36:04]weapons and that the metal detectors or mags were alerting them to a range of weapons knives guns in the form of pistols and rifles bear spray body armor spears and
[6:36:16]flagpoles fastening spheres onto the ends of flagpoles and she said trump was angry before his speech outside the white house when he found out they were not letting people through with weapons i overheard the president say something to
[6:36:28]the effect of you know i don't even care that they have weapons they're not here to hurt me take the effing bags away let my people in they can march the capital from here let the people in take
[6:36:39]the effing mags away then after trump's speech as the mob took aim on the capitol she conveyed a third hand account in which she heard that trump lunged at a secret service agent bobby engel when he would not drive him to the
[6:36:51]capitol she did not witness that firsthand but said that same secret service agent was next to her as she heard the account from deputy chief of staff for operations tony aronado the president
[6:37:02]reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel mr engel grabbed his arm said sir you need to take your hand off the steering wheel
[6:37:13]we're going back to the west wing we're not going to the capitol mr trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby angle and mr when mr
[6:37:24]ronato had recounted this story to me he had motioned towards his clavicles and in other testimony hutchinson also said with respect to the mob's calls to
[6:37:35]hang mike pence that when she discussed this with the former chief of staff meadows that meadows said that president trump doesn't want to do anything about that because
[6:37:45]he thinks the president thinks that mike pence deserves that and does not think his supporters are doing anything wrong in calling for the hanging of mike pence that was her testimony she also stated
[6:37:56]that meadows generally deferred to trump in the event surrounding and during the insurrection and then sought a pardon for himself at that point so did rudy giuliani again
[6:38:08]those are just some of the points with much more to come in the hearings yet to follow this witness craig was in so many key places during this day and in the days leading up to it and really just kind of
[6:38:19]tied a lot of things together that we hadn't heard before this hearing was a surprise though that the committee announced late yesterday even committee staff didn't get advanced notice of this so why did they rush this witness to
[6:38:30]testify and what could that mean well you have to enter the realm of speculation at this point we'll find out very soon it could be a matter of concern that a witness may have cold
[6:38:41]feet and back out although in this case she'd already given four other interviews so maybe not you also have the potential for security concerns get a witness quickly on the record and then provide the security needed if there are
[6:38:53]any threats that they're concerned about but it most likely will be something else is right around the corner and they wanted to get this testimony on the record first what were the highlights that the
[6:39:04]trump white house knew the potential for violence that president trump in knowing that the members of the crowd had weapons called to lift security restrictions then demanded to join the
[6:39:14]riots in progress where that can lead again is a point of speculation but something is in fact likely coming there also were some suggestions at the end of today's hearing that there are also some
[6:39:26]potential concerns about potential witness tampering or witness intimidation which may also be another point yet to come okay a lot to digest from this we know you'll have more for us later this evening craig patrick
[6:39:37]thank you well we want to go out to some of the actual testimony from cassidy hutchinson today as she was explaining the conversations had at the time of the
[6:39:48]insurrection when a lot of the protesters were heading up to the capitol steps there and what she had to say to mark meadows at the time while it was happening let's
[6:39:58]listen count let's turn now to what happened in the president's vehicle when the secret service told him he would not be going to the capitol
[6:40:10]after his speech first here is the president's motorcade leaving the ellipse after his speech on january 6th miss hutchinson
[6:40:36]when you return to the white house in the motorcade after the president's speech where did you go when i returned to the white house i walked upstairs towards the chief of
[6:40:45]staff's office and i noticed mr renato lingering outside of the office once we had made eye contact he quickly waved me to go into his office which was just across the hall from mine
[6:40:56]when i went in he shut the door i noticed bobby engel who's the head of mr trump's security detail sitting in a chair looking somewhat discombobulated a little lost
[6:41:08]and i looked at tony and he had said did you i think hear what happened in the beast i said no tony i just got back
[6:41:17]what happened tony proceeded to tell me that when the president got in the beast he was under the impression from mr meadows
[6:41:28]that the off the record movement to the capitol was still possible and likely to happen but that bobby had more information so once the president had
[6:41:38]gotten into the vehicle with bobby he thought that they were going up to the capitol and when bobby had relayed to him we're not we don't have the assets to do it it's not secure
[6:41:48]we're going back to the west wing the president had very strong a very angry response to that [Music]
[6:41:59]tony described him as being irate the president said something to the effect of i'm the effing president take me up to the capitol now
[6:42:10]to which bobby responded sir we have to go back to the west wing the president reached up towards the front of the
[6:42:19]vehicle to grab at the steering wheel mr engel grabbed his arm said sir you need to take your hand off the steering wheel
[6:42:29]we're going back to the west wing we're not going to the capitol mr trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby angle and mr when mr
[6:42:39]ornato had recounted this story to me he had motioned towards his clavicles and was mr engel in the room as mr ornato told you this story
[6:42:51]he was did mr engel correct or disagree with any part of the story from mr ornato mr engel did not correct or disagree with any part of the
[6:43:03]story did mr engel or mr ornato ever after that tell you that what mr ornato had just said was untrue neither miss ornato nor mr engel told me
[6:43:15]ever that it was untrue and despite this altercation this physical altercation during the ride back to the white house
[6:43:26]president trump still demanded to go to the capitol here's what kaylee mcaney the white house press secretary at the time wrote in her personal notes and told the
[6:43:37]committee about president trump's desire to go to the capitol returning to the white house when you wrote potus wanted to walk to the capitol
[6:43:47]was that based solely on what the president said during his speech or anything that he or anybody else said afterwards so to the best of my recollection i
[6:43:57]believe when we got back to the white house he said he wanted to physically walk with the marchers and according to my notes he then said uh you'd be fine with just writing the beast but so
[6:44:09]that's my recollection he wanted to be a part of the march in some fashion okay and just for the record the beast refers to the presidential limousine
[6:44:20]yes president trump did not go to the capitol that day we understand that he blamed mark meadows for that so prior to leaving the rally site
[6:44:33]when he got off the stage and everybody was making the movement back to the motorcade i had overheard mr meadows say to him then as i had prior to mr trump taking the stage that
[6:44:44]morning um that he was still working on getting an off the record movement to the capitol so when mr trump took the stage he was under the impression by mr
[6:44:56]meadows that it was still possible so when he got off the stage i had relayed to mr meadows that i had another conversation with tony the movement was still not possible
[6:45:06]mr meadow said okay and then as they proceeded to go to the motorcade um and mr meadows had reiterated we're going to work on it so talk to bobby bobby has
[6:45:18]more information mark got into his vehicle to my understanding trump got into the beast and after we'd all arrived back at the white house
[6:45:28]later in the day it had been relayed to me by a mark that the president wasn't happy that bobby didn't pull it off for him and that mark didn't work hard enough to get the
[6:45:40]movement on the books the physical altercation that ms hutchinson described in the presidential vehicle was not the first time that the
[6:45:51]president had become very angry about issues relating to the election on december 1 2020 attorney general barr said in an interview that the department
[6:46:01]of justice had not not found evidence of widespread election fraud sufficient to change the outcome of the election ms hutchinson how did the president
[6:46:11]react to hearing that news around the time that i understand the ap article went live i remember hearing noise coming from
[6:46:23]down the hallway so i poked my head out of the office i saw the valet walking towards our office he had said get the chief down to the dining room the president wants him
[6:46:34]so mark went down to the dining room came back to the office a few minutes later after mark had returned i left the office and went down to the dining room and i noticed that the door was propped
[6:46:45]open and the valley was inside the dining room changing the tablecloth off of the dining room table he motioned for me to come in and then pointed towards the front of
[6:46:55]the room near the fireplace mantle in the tv where i first noticed there was ketchup dripping down the wall and there's a shattered porcelain plate on the floor
[6:47:07]the valet had articulated that the president was extremely angry at the attorney general's ap interview
[6:47:18]and had thrown his lunch against the wall um which was causing them to have to clean up so i grabbed a towel and started
[6:47:28]wiping the catch up off the wall to help the valet out um and he said something to the effect of he's really ticked off about this
[6:47:38]i would stay clear of him for right now he's really really ticked off about this right now and miss hutchinson was this the only instance that you are aware of where the president
[6:47:49]threw dishes it's not and are there other instances in the dining room that you recall where he expressed his anger there were there were several times
[6:48:01]throughout my tenure with the chief of staff that i was aware of him either throwing dishes or flipping the tablecloth to let all the contents of the table go onto the floor and
[6:48:13]likely break or go everywhere and miss hutchinson attorney general barr described to the committee the president's
[6:48:23]angry reaction when he finally met with president trump let's listen and i said look i i
[6:48:34]know that you're dissatisfied with me and i'm glad to offer my resignation and he pounded the table very hard everyone sort of jumped and he said accept it okay so that was just a portion of the
[6:48:51]hearing today as we're going to hear more from cassidy hutchinson again an aide to mark meadows chief of staff at the time if you want to go and watch the entire thing if you want to watch highlights of it go over to our youtube
[6:49:03]page live now from fox just type it in you'll find it on there we're going to take a quick break after that though we'll be getting the latest update on this really unfortunate breaking news
[6:49:13]out of san antonio as 51 migrants have now died after a trailer was abandoned sweltering in the texas heat there we'll get the latest from authorities from down on the ground
[6:49:25]after the break [Music]
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[6:51:28]welcome back here live now from fox i'm daytona everett we want to update everyone on the story out of san antonio texas as we're now getting these numbers 51 migrants found dead inside of a truck
[6:51:39]due to those high temperatures they were abandoned out in san antonio this is the highest death count ever from a smuggling attempt into the united states
[6:51:50]this is according to local agents there they updated on the scene about the latest in the investigation into these people there's still not
[6:52:01]identities that have been released quite yet we don't know the demographics of these people ages or anything we know that over a dozen were transported to local
[6:52:10]hospitals with varying injuries as well so that 51 number could potentially go up let's get the latest though from that briefing from earlier
[6:52:21]they were able to contact your mother so that is something to smile about today such a sad day the other side of serving the surviving victims here at uhs is sadly the amazing
[6:52:32]and difficult work that the bexar county medical examiner's staff are tasked to do which is who have died our medical examiner's office has
[6:52:43]carried a heavy load over the last few weeks from the new aldi victims and now today we have reached out to neighboring
[6:52:54]counties for assistance from their medical examiner's offices also as of one o'clock very sad to report that we um the
[6:53:06]medical examiner's office has 51 bodies 12 women they have potentially id 34 of them i'm not only angry
[6:53:20]about what occurred yesterday but my heart also mourns for the families who have lost their loved ones the governor of the great state of texas
[6:53:30]has once again politicized this horrific tragedy by taking to twitter and placing the blame on others for his failures
[6:53:41]while bodies were still being removed and others being taken to local hospitals he chose to be heartless and point the finger
[6:53:50]shane on our governor his words were also a complete contradiction to state that this tragedy was due to open border policies if there was such a policy of open
[6:54:02]borders we wouldn't have had over 50 human lives trying to enter this country the way they did we would be mourning the deaths of so
[6:54:12]many people who were simply seeking a better life i can't imagine being in another country and waiting to get a call from a loved one who's been
[6:54:23]traveling for weeks or months to hear if they've arrived at their destination safely and then to see the news of this tragedy here in bexar county instead
[6:54:34]we are not certain of all the countries where the victims are from but i have spoken with the walaman and council canada and they are working to get information from the hospitals for their citizens
[6:54:45]we're also working with the consulates of mexico honduras and el salvador el salvador if you have a family member that you fear could be one of the victims you can
[6:54:57]call the watermelon consulate at 956-800-7351 unfamiliar
[6:55:46]well thank you the inscription on our statue of liberty says give me your time your poor
[6:55:57]and your huddle masses yearning to breathe free and our nation was built on the backs of poor immigrants
[6:56:07]and made us a great nation today today we mourn for those 51 immigrants
[6:56:15]who came to us to breathe that fresh air but instead found death in the state of texas suffering in a van or trailer
[6:56:27]from heat exhaustion it's a terrible way for us to treat immigrants the state of texas
[6:56:37]has done just about everything wrong that i can think of we participate in building a wall which does nothing to protect our borders they have spent billions of our
[6:56:49]taxpayers dollars state taxpayers dollars on paying for the texas national guard at the border and they throw innocent people those
[6:56:58]that just lost their lives just like them they throw them and converted prisons down by the border we dehumanize them
[6:57:09]we make them people think that there's something less than us and they are not less than us instead of spending texas
[6:57:19]dollars on a failed body security program we should instead be using those funds to help immigrants spend those funds to catch the smugglers
[6:57:31]and the crooks that live right here in texas that did what they did today state should be spending dollars helping the immigration courts to help them move those cases along so
[6:57:43]they can decide their state here their status here and they should be participating with the mexican border states and providing funding for them so that they can provide shelter and
[6:57:54]food for the immigrants that are coming through mexico and most of all our state leaders should be supporting immigration reform until the congress
[6:58:06]enacts a comprehensive immigration reform that's fair to people it gives the people for the great opportunity they're looking for we're going to continue to see this
[6:58:16]horrible horrible policy instituted by the state of texas and complemented by the federal government we mourn for them i'm so so pleased what university
[6:58:28]hospital has done george hernandez and his team sutherland springs massacre uvalde mass shooting of innocent 19 children and
[6:58:38]two teachers and now 51 people dying here in bexar county as they come across the water a medical examiner is rebecca stated
[6:58:50]has received all the bodies from uvalde and now she's facing this tremendous workload tremendous i can't imagine how they go
[6:59:01]through that in the job that they do also want to thank the bear county emergency services for being out there on site and for their county sheriff
[6:59:10]javier salazar for his attention to the problem we've got out there so we should mourn we should not forget but we should try to correct the
[6:59:22]horrible mistakes that states nathan and our nation's making we're going to take a few questions
[6:59:37]information officer so we want to make sure that we get everybody in so if you have some questions we want to make sure that you understand we cannot talk about anything that has to do with the investigation
[6:59:48]the investigation is handled by the department of homeland security and we most certainly want to make sure that they they can talk about what they need to talk about but if you
[6:59:59]have any questions with respect to the medical examiner's office or what the county does and that would be a good time yes sir again one more time there are currently 51 bodies
[7:00:16]in the custody of the medical examiner there are 39 of them are men 12 of them are women children
[7:00:26]so they're potentially some of them are under the age of 18. but we have to ask you to understand that
[7:00:37]what we have in materials there to try and identify the individuals cannot be at this time perfectly matched to the individual right
[7:00:48]so that is what the medical examiner is trying to do hence my saying these are potentially people under 18.
[7:01:00]but not i would say in the t in the teenage age range not younger i'm sorry okay so this update from local
[7:01:10]authorities from earlier today out of san antonio as 51 migrants were found dead inside of a truck overheated many transported to the hospital the
[7:01:19]identities not released of these people quite yet but we know many of them were making their travels across from mexico uh into texas they're
[7:01:31]the investigation still underway and possibly that 51 number could rise unfortunately just a devastating situation this is the highest number of
[7:01:41]deaths in a smuggling attempt in the history of border crossings so we'll be watching this here on live now from fox we're also watching another
[7:01:52]story this one coming out of arizona after the break we'll be speaking with one of our reporter one of our reporters who's down on the ground in portuguese lake where there is an arizona sheriff
[7:02:03]that's been shot and a suspect barricaded more on that after the break [Music]
[7:03:30][Music] welcome back here to live now from fox
[7:04:10]we want to go out to some breaking news in arizona authorities say a suspect is barricaded after a yavapai county sheriff's deputy was shot in the line of duty we want to bring in fox 10's
[7:04:22]marissa sarbeck for the very latest marisa what are you learning now well daytona we still have so many questions here and we don't have much information from the yavapai county sheriff's office but we do know that a
[7:04:34]deputy was shot here on scene and we do know again this is an active barricade situation at one of the homes behind me a neighbor earlier telling us it's right here on stagecoach road at the intersection of red rock lane behind me
[7:04:46]and as you can see multiple agencies are here multiple members of law enforcement and we actually saw the swat team about three trucks going in and out they've been looping around and taking alternate
[7:04:57]routes to get around to that section we haven't had much activity past that because we can't really get any closer but of course through the camera lens there you can see right up on to that scene again multiple agencies here
[7:05:09]prescott valley police are here we've seen the state troopers here of course yavapai county sheriff's office is here as well and we do not know the condition of that deputy but this is what i heard earlier from a neighbor just a few
[7:05:20]houses down i read on facebook that an officer had got shot and they had put the address on and i realized the address was like four houses down from mine so i came home
[7:05:31]because my kids are here and my daughter was so scared when i first pulled in there was an officer yelling at me no no you can't go down there you can't go down there and i'm like
[7:05:41]i'm right here you know and i open the door and my daughter my older sister's just in tears shaking what's going on certainly a scary situation for any kids
[7:05:52]that are on scene or anyone living in this area there are a few houses here just to my right and we've seen the swat trucks go behind there as well as some fire trucks but other than that there hasn't been much movement it looks like
[7:06:03]they are starting to mobilize down at the scene but we just haven't gotten much information again either on the condition of that deputy or on what's going on down there right now but again we do know this is a barricaded suspect
[7:06:14]who did shoot a yavapai county sheriff's deputy according to that sheriff's office there daytona yeah marissa i'm curious if you can hear any of the communication with authorities down on the ground into
[7:06:26]where the suspect is barricaded can you can you hear anything or can you just see them going in we've really just seen them going in we've heard a little bit just from the swat trucks that have been here but the
[7:06:38]engines are so loud when they're moving so typically we can't hear and we do see a lot of the guys that are in those swat trucks coming in and you'll see they'll have those microphones on so we do know they are communicating to each other but
[7:06:49]we don't know too much actually i'll step out of the way it looks like one of those swat trucks is coming through right now daytona so again we've seen about three of these tanks coming in i think you can take a live look here at this picture this is from the sheriff's
[7:07:01]office here we're not exactly sure where they're going because back there was where this scene is so we have seen them going kind of around talking to each other but that communication in terms of
[7:07:12]us hearing it it's been pretty much under wraps here as you can see we're zooming in pretty much all the way with our cameras because it is pretty far down there they keep us a distance away especially because it is an active
[7:07:22]barricade situation yeah quite a bit of movement just within the past couple of minutes here so we'll be watching that um as you said and like that woman in the neighborhood said you know this is
[7:07:33]very scary for people who who might be living there it's completely blocked off for now right they've evacuated people out of their homes or are they allowing them all to stay there
[7:07:44]jenna had told me earlier that neighbor that we spoke with that it was tough for her to get back into her house but after she verified that she did live here just a few houses down they did let her in again they do have this blocked off
[7:07:55]you're right so they aren't letting anybody down i believe unless they live in one of these homes but she told me this started around one o'clock so it's been going on for quite a few hours now that neighbors we've seen them come out just to watch and see what's going on
[7:08:06]they have not let us get too close yeah and no word yet on the condition of that deputy no we know he was transported to a hospital we don't know which one we're still waiting to be updated by the
[7:08:18]yavapai county sheriff's office so just a lot of waiting around right now to find out what's going on all right marissa thank you so much for your reporting stay safe out there we'll talk to you soon thanks daytona
[7:08:29]all right so we'll we'll keep you updated as we await any of the details from local law enforcement out in yavapai county this is a smaller area in the phoenix
[7:08:41]metro area and fox 10 is going to be on it for us so we'll be watching it we're also watching a lot of these other top stories across the country and what president biden has been up to as he is
[7:08:52]in europe at this point we'll be talking more about that after this break [Music]
[7:11:02]as russia continues its bombardment of ukraine hitting the shopping mall in cremenchuk with long-range missiles president biden is meeting with nato allies in europe vowing the alliance
[7:11:12]will stand strong against vladimir putin together the new commitments will constitute an impressive display of allied unity and resolve
[7:11:23]but behind the scenes four months into the conflict the us and its nato partners are feeling the strain of pumping billions of dollars worth of weapons into ukraine and trying to punish russia with economic sanctions
[7:11:34]that are helping make gas prices soar worldwide you predicted it excuse me on monday french president emmanuel
[7:11:44]macron buttonholed president biden outside a g7 meeting and briefed him about failed attempts to get arab nations to substantially increase oil production ukrainian officials worry
[7:11:55]those economic pressures combined with recent russian victories could mean allies will lower expectations that ukraine can win back lost territory drinking of ukraine essentially means
[7:12:05]appeasing putin and going back to the 1938 practice of appeasing dictators like hitler was president biden is set to travel to saudi arabia next month to
[7:12:17]make his own attempt to encourage arab nations to increase oil production in the face of five dollar a gallon gas prices here at home in washington caroline shively fox news
[7:12:28]we want to go out to a briefing with president biden and president sanchez ahead of this summit today we'll listen in there's unfortunately not any reporter questions that they answer at the very
[7:12:39]end but still substantial some strong partnership in many topics and moreover we share the desire to promote the principles of freedom
[7:12:48]democracy human rights gender equality and the state of law and after over 20 years since the declaration that was signed by
[7:12:58]secretary of state madeline albright and the then foreign affairs minister of spain joseph in 2001 there's obviously been numerous changes
[7:13:10]that have affected trust atlantic and relations and relations between spain and the us and that is do you mr president why i'm so happy to announce this new joint declaration
[7:13:22]between the us and spain which will help to strengthen the relations between spain and the us in this declaration we are doing a lot of different things
[7:13:32]first of all we are reinfor forcing our support for a rules-based international order and it's very important to say that today here in madrid as a
[7:13:41]consequence of the holding of the nato summit here because putin's invasion of ukraine is a clear violation of international law
[7:13:52]direct attack on our share values and it demonstrates the need to redouble our efforts to support that rules-based international order and one of the main
[7:14:01]consequences of putin's war has actually been the revitalization of the transatlantic alliance when europe's
[7:14:11]security was at stake what every ally has done including spain has been to respond decisively reinforcing our eastern flank whilst recognizing the threats that come from the southern
[7:14:22]flank and therefore the importance for the alliance to develop everything that's been called the alliance 360 strategy and spain has
[7:14:32]practically the mr president doubled its military presence in latvia with the recent deployment this very week of an entire air defense system in the
[7:14:42]libardis air force base the spanish contingent at latvia is now of 592. and we're also
[7:14:53]taking part in the baltic air police patrols our navy ships are maintaining their presence in the alliance's permanent forces and so in total spain
[7:15:04]is participating with its deployments in five nato missions with a total of 1471. forces deployed and in this context in which we're dealing i think with the
[7:15:16]biggest challenge to peace in europe since the end of the cold war today the u.s and spain have committed to strengthen our cooperation in the
[7:15:27]areas of defense and security specifically we have spoken about the us's interest in increasing its presence in rhoda's
[7:15:38]navy base in order to strengthen the alliance's collective security and on the other hand dennis uh is set down in the joint declaration we have agreed
[7:15:48]to strengthen the bonds between us in the areas of justice cyber security energy security and by the way i'm very grateful to the us government and the whole of the us for
[7:15:59]all that lpg that we are receiving in spain and also the management of immigration flows everything that has to do with climate change technology and
[7:16:11]digital transformation so in this update of this joint declaration that was signed back in 2001 we are expanding and reinforcing our bilateral relations
[7:16:20]and we're also of course aware of the importance of the trade relations between our economies and in our respective national recovery plans we
[7:16:31]see an excellent opportunity for us companies in spain and spanish companies in the us and in that context i would like to thank president biden for his
[7:16:43]role in redefining the transatlantic trade relations which over the last year have been able to resolve past differences and embark on a much more
[7:16:53]positive track for getting that past and looking towards the future with hope we also agree on the importance of promoting a positive agenda in latin america
[7:17:04]a region which in the most part uh a region with shared values and together we will be able to better defend a rules-based international order
[7:17:16]together we've also discussed the increasing challenges of a very important region for spain and europe which is the sahel also the role of china in the current geopolitical
[7:17:26]context which will be discussed in the nato summit so we will continue to work together in multilateral for like the un and the g20 in order to promote a coordinated response to all the global
[7:17:37]challenges we have including the climate emergency food security or the architecture of global health after the covet 19 pandemics so overall this visit
[7:17:47]mr president has been a significant turning point in the bilateral relations between our two countries by thanking you for your leadership
[7:17:59]we are pleased to have the u.s back on the side of multilateralism the madrid nato summit will start tomorrow and the decisions that we will
[7:18:09]take will reinforce our transatlantic bond you can count on spain as a solid ally and friend and thank you very much mr president
[7:18:19]well thank you pedro you can count on us as well and uh you know thank you for welcoming me today uh here and for hosting the nato summit uh in madrid
[7:18:31]and uh we have a we had a very warm and personal discussion upstairs and uh one of the things i look forward to is having
[7:18:41]an hour together before we begin the whole conference you know uh we're marking uh 40 years 40 years since spain joined nato
[7:18:52]and becoming an indispensable ally and today we're standing together to defend our shared security and i emphasize shared security strengthen our transatlantic
[7:19:03]alliance and meet the challenges we face today and in the future that's one of the things we're going to be talking about in this meeting this week
[7:19:12]and as president sanchez and i want to talk to you thank you for spain's hospitality for u.s service members and their
[7:19:22]families stationed here in spain mr president you're hosting a truly historic summit and the key moment in our alliance when russia's unprovoked
[7:19:33]invasion of ukraine was shattered peace in europe and shattered every norm since world war ii that's been in place and i want to thank you personally you for your
[7:19:44]leadership transatlantic unity has been and will continue to be the greatest strength in our response to russia transatlantic security we're standing as one
[7:19:56]to support ukraine and to enhance our own deterrence and defense capabilities and as i said before the war started if putin attacked ukraine the united states
[7:20:07]would enhance our force posture in europe and respond to the reality of a new european security environment earlier this year we
[7:20:17]we surged additional u.s forces to europe to both to our alliance in response to russia's aggressive actions and for months we've been consulting
[7:20:28]closely on additional steps the united states will take alongside our allies who are also stepping up and strengthening our selective and collective security
[7:20:38]together the new commitments will constitute an impressive display of ally unity and resolve and nato's 360 degree
[7:20:48]approach to our security i'm looking forward to discussing all of this during the summit but mr president you and i discussed today we're going to work on an agreement to
[7:21:00]increase the number of u.s naval destroyers stationed at spain's road to naval base which will also enhance the bilateral defensive relationship between spain and
[7:21:11]the united states we expect that to occur much sooner than later and i welcome the steps that spain has taken in solidarity with our allies that we're facing heightened threats on
[7:21:23]their borders including sending additional capabilities you referenced to latvia thank you mr president and i'll be laying out additional steps
[7:21:33]the united states is going to take with our nato colleagues as our in our summit tomorrow but the bottom line is this together the alliance is threatening its posture
[7:21:44]is dealing with the threats and strengthening our posture against the threats from the east and challenges from the south nato is focused on
[7:21:55]all directions and domains land air and sea and mr president uh we also discussed how the united states and spain and other allies are keeping needed
[7:22:06]weapons and equipment flowing to ukraine so they they're they're standing up in ways that i don't think anyone anticipated showing enormous bravery enormous resolve and we're continuing to
[7:22:18]tighten sanctions on russia as well we're providing assistance to the government of the people of ukraine as they respond to this unprovoked assault on their lives and their democracies
[7:22:29]sometimes i think putin's objective is just to literally change the entire culture wipe out the culture of ukraine the kinds of actions he's taking and i want to particularly thank you mr
[7:22:40]president and the people of spain for the support you've shown in welcoming more than 140 000 ukrainian citizens refuge here
[7:22:51]in spain that's remarkable it's a testament to your people and it's a testament to the spirit and resolve of not only the spanish people but of your leadership and to stand up
[7:23:00]for what is right in a moment of crisis our shared democratic values together with our long history of friendship makes spain and the united states strong partners on all the issues that we face
[7:23:12]together in the western hemisphere spain and the united states are working together with other countries in latin and caribbean areas to reinforce democratic institutions
[7:23:23]strengthen the rule of law spread economic prosperity and advance transformative approaches to manage migration we're looking to do more together in
[7:23:33]africa as well to promote stability and economic growth and we reaffirmed our joint commitment today to continue to work together on the biggest challenges that affect the
[7:23:44]people all around the world from covet 19 to climate change and we're releasing a joint declaration that reaffirms our shared values reflects the full breadth of our
[7:23:56]cooperation and we have asked our teams to follow up on the substance of the joint declaration so they become known to everyone
[7:24:07]and so thank you again pedro for your friendship and your close partnership and uh we had a good discussion today and i'm looking forward to continue good discussions the remainder of this
[7:24:18]conference but thank you for your hospitality okay so uh no uh questions reporter
[7:24:30]questions for president biden and president sanchez even though people were throwing out questions one of them being a reaction to what happened in texas as 51 migrants were confirmed dead
[7:24:41]after a smuggling situation gone wrong we also have reaction coming in out of houston texas at this time here's the latest from fox 26.
[7:24:53]as the death toll of migrants climbs to over 50 monday's eerie discovery in san antonio is now considered the deadliest human smuggling operation in history congresswoman sylvia garcia saying in a
[7:25:04]tweet these people died a tragic death while desperately in search of a better life we must fix our broken immigration system to better allow families a chance to escape their circumstances these
[7:25:16]tragedies can be prevented immigrant rights group field believes those changes involve offering a simpler pathway for migrants searching for work not only with this ameliorate some of
[7:25:26]the tragedies that are happening but it would also give a boost to the economy people are able to travel back and forth tickets and services back and forth and we would see we would see an impact to our economy but more importantly is we
[7:25:38]would see a decrease in folks trying to enter the country illegally as federal authorities continue to investigate the details critics are pointing the finger at the biden administration our
[7:25:48]response is very simple if this if we had an open border why would people be so desperate as to get into the back of an 18 wheeler when it's 150 plus
[7:25:59]degrees in there and right now we do have that organization leader out of houston speaking live at a press conference about the situation we'll listen into
[7:26:10]that test test one two three turned off ago check check check check check check
[7:26:25]check check check check check one two three one two three check check check the next foreign
[7:27:03]i was just about to ask you for that if you have
[7:27:26]one of the cases that stands out to us is the case of victoria tejas in 2003 where 19 souls perished during that incident
[7:27:38]unfortunately the number comes little to the 51 souls that were lost yesterday among them women
[7:27:47]among them children among them people who only had a hope to come here and to add insult to injury we are people like governor abbott and
[7:27:58]other folks in the republican party saying that this is because of open borders to them i want to send a personal direct message if this was
[7:28:12]because of open borders 50 plus people would not have chosen to get into the back of an 18-wheeler to face death
[7:28:23]under 150 plus degree circumstances so this no this is not an open borders issue this is a result
[7:28:34]of failed policies by both the democratic and the republican party and by failed promises from current and past administrations that in the sense of
[7:28:46]nobody has had the guts to fix our broken immigration system just like in mass shootings just like in other issues we don't want to stand here
[7:28:56]months from now and repeating the same story we want there to finally there be a discussion and a resolve to our broken immigration system so that no more lives
[7:29:07]have to be lost me nobody says so we'll now have a pastor he'll bless
[7:30:55]the space and we want to pray for the 51 uh families that were lost uh we have two pastors yes two pastors that will come up and give a prayer so we can bless the 51
[7:31:05]souls that were lost yesterday in san antonio tejas um
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[7:32:27]let us pray god of mercy god almighty god of unconditional love
[7:32:36]we commend to your mercy the souls of these immigrants that died such a horrible death
[7:32:46]in a country where they searched for hope we pray that they may rest in peace
[7:32:55]and rise in glory we pray for their families we pray for their friends we pray for the communities that we're waiting their
[7:33:07]arrival pray for laws in this country that make hiding in the back of a truck unnecessary for
[7:33:18]those who are searching for honest work and a brighter future we pray for
[7:33:28]more humane immigration laws for a change in heart of the
[7:33:38]criminals that lead these people into certain death by leaving them in the back of a truck we pray for a country
[7:33:53]that receives and welcomes and knows the worth of every single immigrant
[7:34:02]our brothers and our sisters our friends and our neighbors we mourn with those who mourn and we work
[7:34:14]and pray for a day in which these horrors no longer pass
[7:34:25]because we see the true humanity of all coming to this country in the name of christ our
[7:34:37]lord our savior our brother our friend we pray amen so uh we now would like to invite miss
[7:34:49]marta alvera she was a uh she's been a prominent figure in our community for the last uh several decades and she was one of the people that was instrumental in
[7:35:00]bringing the person who uh committed the crime in victoria texas in 2003 to justice so this morning the reason why we're here is because she caught us in tears
[7:35:11]and said it happened again and what are we going to do now if it happened you know over 21 years ago what are we going to do no excuse me 19 years ago what are we going to do next what are we
[7:35:22]going to do now so i would like to bring up martha alvera good evening
[7:35:33]everybody well today i have a question for the government how many more how many more 19 years ago
[7:35:45]may 14 we have 19 immigrants 18 at a toilet and one in the hospital today yesterday sorry there was 46 and a
[7:35:56]trailer five more in the hospital how many more what are they we waiting for we need to raise our balls boys thank
[7:36:52]you standing with us as you can see are these two lovely children and we don't know the ages of the of the kids that perish but we do know that there were kids uh present we did
[7:37:03]hear this morning uh and these are figures that we have you might have different figures but we did hear this morning there was approximately 22 mexican immigrants that were part of this uh of this
[7:37:14]of this group of people that perished and and unfortunately as we have learned throughout today the number is increasing so uh we have not had somebody directly
[7:37:41]impacted call our office yet but we have had calls of different people that have said my my loved one is lost at the border could it be them on on that
[7:37:51]on that truck and we unfortunately don't have an answer to give them we don't have an answer say yes your loved one may have been on that truck or no we know for certain that they were not it's
[7:38:02]going to be unfortunate it's going to take some time for them to figure that out and for them to be able to to uh find closure for themselves and their families so
[7:41:47][Music] our final speaker will be alma cooper
[7:42:22]she was another uh person who was instrumental in bringing us together tonight and she's been a monumental part of our community for a very long time [Music]
[7:42:42]personas and muerto and this is because the policy the immigrant policy that this government has been implemented is not
[7:42:54]open borders greg abbott is always denying his part of the blame
[7:43:08]and he is always blaming somebody else first they blame the mexican government then they blame the open borders
[7:43:18]or abiding and he never take any responsibility it's not just the immigrants that have died in a very
[7:43:28]cruel circumstances is his hate speech that every single day he is throwing to the
[7:43:37]to the community is not for free that these killings in uvalde happens is not and i have a very big doubt
[7:43:48]how this trailer could come till us to san antonio and nobody there is no authority
[7:43:59]no immigration no dea agents no anybody that can detect it
[7:44:09]don't we have the united states have a very high technology to x-rays all the cars all the everything so why
[7:44:19]why these trailers have people and i i think they let them go through because they know that these trailers
[7:44:30]are for sure that of end and the dead of all those people so no no no
[7:44:40]greg abbott is a hate immigrant person who promotes this if we want to end this we have to pass a a
[7:44:51]a immigrant reform a comprehensive comprehensive immigrant reform that for decades have been
[7:45:03]ask people have been fighting for that and nothing had happened and unfortunately more deaths are gonna happen so this is no more this
[7:45:15]is no more 51 how many more all right so this time we're gonna um so we're gonna pick up some of the posters
[7:45:25]that were brought 51 poster words were brought out uh with the with the with the sad uh mission that once we find out the names we will put the names
[7:45:36]of the affected people on the posters and then uh drive them up to san antonio to commemorate uh their passing uh but we'll uh we'll pick up the posters and
[7:45:45]then we're gonna have a small prayer uh circle before we wrap up so auntis poster
[7:45:55]posters is and then if there's any questions we
[7:46:18]uh should we do questions now we'll take a couple of questions right now before we we do that so are there any questions that you all have can you tell us why i mean people's
[7:46:42]hearts are broken because whether you're everybody's heart should be broken whether you're democrat republican pro-life approach everybody's heart should be broken because these were 51
[7:46:53]lives that were lost in in god-awful conditions there's no other way to put it so everybody's heart should be broken including all of our elected officials
[7:47:03]but more than just having broken hearts we need actions we need actions on immigration reform we need action so these issues don't ever happen again when a
[7:47:14]person calls you and says i'm worried that my family member might be among these people what can you tell them so the thing that we're telling them right now is to wait we don't know exactly what's what's
[7:47:26]if their family member was involved we can't put them in touch with not only houston authorities but also the authorities in san antonio who are leading the investigation and at the end of the day we want people to come
[7:47:36]forward for those people who have family members at the hospital and hopefully those family members survive there can be an immigration there can be immigration
[7:47:47]benefits that they receive in terms of a u visa or a tv set they cooperate with the investigation so it's really important that those families come forward if they are too afraid to call law enforcement or or officials
[7:47:58]themselves they can always come to us and we'll help facilitate those how processes know these people wanted they had a dream
[7:48:09]um and they went through all of these steps to try and make it happen and talk about that so one of the things that that people talk about is oh people are coming flooding but they don't they
[7:48:20]don't understand the mental physical monetary process that it takes to make that very difficult decision so the question that we ask in
[7:48:30]return is how bad are things for people in their home countries that they have to to come that way and everybody likes to talk about the economic impact everybody likes to talk about policy and
[7:48:41]this and that but one of the things that is often getting overlooked right now is how climate change is affecting uh the way people live and and how they migrate one of the largest numbers that we've seen in the
[7:48:53]last 10 years has been guatemalan immigrants and when different studies have been done in the last few years it's it's because of climate change because it's getting so hot and so
[7:49:03]different in guatemala the crops are failing the different things are happening so it's forcing people to either starve stay in watermelon starve or migrate to a place like the united states so there's a lot of push-pull
[7:49:15]factors that have yet to be determined so obviously this is not an issue that's going to be resolved in a sound bite or by something by a tweet it's going to be something that we really do need to sit
[7:49:25]down and talk about and figure out as a country okay so once again that was the houston
[7:49:41]community a local organization reacting to those 51 migrants found dead inside of a truck even more people were transported to the hospital so those numbers are likely to fluctuate as we
[7:49:53]continue to learn more about that situation there's also a vigil underway in san antonio texas we'll be popping in and out of that as well as staying on track with all of the latest primaries
[7:50:04]including out of new york we'll be speaking with our reporters who are out and about at these watch parties across the country at the top of the hour we'll
[7:50:13]be right back after this break [Music]
[7:51:36][Music] we want to bring in fox's jessica
[7:52:16]formoso joining us live now from down on the ground jessica bring us the details from what happened today in court good evening daytona well not much of a
[7:52:27]reaction from maxwell when she was sentenced to 20 years behind bars now what was shocking though during the sentencing was the fact that she addressed the court she got up and spoke directly to the victims she went on to
[7:52:39]say that she is sorry for the pain they have experienced she also said the greatest regret of her life was meeting jeffrey epstein however she did not take
[7:52:48]responsibility for her actions maxwell has been behind bars for two years now she's been in solitaire solidarity confinement and on suicide watch before
[7:52:58]today's court appearance in december a jury found maxwell guilty of five counts including sex trafficking and transporting minors to participate in
[7:53:08]those illegal sex acts the british socialite and companion of disgraced financier jeffrey epstein helped obscene recruit and groom young girls to have
[7:53:18]sex with him and other men now a number of victims were present in court today when they read their impact statements they addressed maxwell telling her she caused them so much pain one of the
[7:53:28]victims went on to say that she tried to commit suicide they told the judge they want maxwell to spend the rest of her life in prison now prosecutors were
[7:53:37]seeking a sentence of 30 to 55 years while the defense was asking for a lesser sentence of just five years again maxwell who is 60 years old got 20 years
[7:53:48]the victims say finally justice was served and they were actually shocked to hear from maxwell it was difficult i don't think that any of us expected her to speak so
[7:54:00]of course it was difficult her statement felt like a very hollow apology to me that she did not take responsibility for the crimes that she committed and it felt like once more her
[7:54:10]trying to do something to benefit her and not at all about the harm that she had caused clever and cunning to the end jeffrey epstein
[7:54:22]left Ghislaine Maxwell holding the whole bag and you heard her attorneys right there
[7:54:33]they say that they will appeal and are confident that this time around they will succeed but again you heard from the victims um they feel like justice
[7:54:43]was served but they did not believe when she apologized to them saying sorry they said that she should have taken responsibility for what she did daytona
[7:54:53]jessica it is it is so interesting to note the fact that she said it was her biggest regret in meeting jeffrey epstein but still
[7:55:02]denies the abuse of anyone in this case yeah that's right i mean what she was trying to say when she said those words that that was her biggest regret saying
[7:55:13]that if she didn't meet uh jeffrey i've seen none of this would have happened so kind of taking the blame off her and blaming geoffrey epstein which you know he uh committed suicide before his trial
[7:55:24]even began but a lot of emotions here and i have to say that speaking to the victims um we got a chance to get up and close with them and ask them questions after the sentencing after after hearing
[7:55:34]what the judge said they were relieved that she will be spending 20 years behind bars and remember um maxwell is 60 years old so add 20 years to that she'll be spending pretty much the rest
[7:55:45]of her life behind bars yeah i mean did they think 20 was enough i know she's going to be getting up there in age with 20 years but a lot of experts were
[7:55:53]expecting maybe around 30 years and that's what the prosecutors wanted they wanted between 30 and 55 years now
[7:56:03]the judge here today did say that according to the guidelines that she had she could have sentenced her between 188 months to 235 months so she went with
[7:56:13]240 months which was a little bit more than expected so after all the attorneys here the prosecutors i did feel like at the end it was fair um you know they definitely didn't want to see the five
[7:56:25]years that the defense wanted five years they thought that was too little i mean she already has been she's been in jail already for two years so if you take the five years minus two years she would only be spending about
[7:56:36]you know three years in prison all right well we will be watching uh for those possible appeals from her lawyers from her attorneys foxes jessica formoso live for us now thank
[7:56:46]you so much we appreciate it okay uh daytona everett there speaking with one of our new york reporters today about the sentencing of gelane maxwell
[7:56:58]we'll have a whole segment on that a little bit later in the next hour bringing on legal experts talking about how the judge made this decision today and what this means for the case
[7:57:08]going forward i'm andrew kraft thanks so much for being with us almost at the top of the hour six o'clock on the west coast almost nine o'clock on the east coast in new york where we are following
[7:57:18]a lot of these primary races we'll have an update from one of them in two minutes [Music]
[7:58:46][Music] [Music]
[7:59:26]welcome back here to live now from fox on this tuesday night of course another primary night in states all across the country we're tracking some of these races
[7:59:36]like we've been following in illinois also in new york and colorado remember just yesterday if you were watching we had a preview from colorado about some of those races uh this one though uh new
[7:59:47]york is really the one to watch here uh especially some of these gubernatorial primaries that are underway on the republican side and that's where fox's brian yenis joins me now from one of
[7:59:58]those watch parties of one of those candidates one lee zeldin brian what is this race all about andy how are you yeah this is lee zeldin
[8:00:09]he is the representative and congressman from long island this race is really just fascinating in the sense that this is the first time that both the republican and democratic parties in new york have had competitive
[8:00:20]gubernatorial primaries really in history in the same exact year and zeldan is someone that new yorkers know he's a four-time congressman he is somebody who has attached himself to
[8:00:32]president trump as a staunch ally he was chosen here by the conservative and republican parties as their candidate throughout the better part of the last
[8:00:42]year plus and so he is somebody who wasn't necessarily expecting the competitive match that we sort of have here there are three other candidates andrew giuliani who represents his
[8:00:52]stiffest competition he is the son of former mayor rudy giuliani he's got the name recognition and is really pushing the tough on crime uh policy rob estorino who is a former county
[8:01:03]executive here on long island who is a conservative also radio talk show host and pundit and then you have harry wilson who is a moderate and a businessman and so there have been
[8:01:13]debates zeldin has had to fight his way through this which is pretty extraordinary when it comes to the republican party gubernatorial primaries and what we're starting to see here is essentially you know
[8:01:25]we realize that all the republicans andy have similar plans here they're all about uh getting rid of cash bail they all want to fire the manhattan district attorney alvin bragg this is all
[8:01:37]a tough on crime policy and then on the economy front they want to enact the largest tax cut in new york state history and they've talked about
[8:01:47]gas and and oil so the messaging has been the same but ultimately it could be well who they who voters thought did better in the in the debates and who
[8:01:58]they connect with the most andy yeah brian and there's been so many of these debates of course if you're running as a republican really for any race in new york that presents its own
[8:02:09]host of challenges it's obviously a very largely blue state but what are some of the issues that maybe you've spoken to some of the supporters in the room there that they went to the ballot box on and what do
[8:02:21]you think's turnout is going to look like so turnout is expected to be low that was expected for a couple of reasons one this is a primary that
[8:02:32]because of the redistricting snafus and back and forth here in new york state has been splintered into two so now you have this primary date and then you also have a second primary on august 23rd for
[8:02:44]the state senate seats as well as congressional races so that has confused voters a lot of voters didn't even know that there was a primary so they expect low turnout which could mean you know it
[8:02:54]could be unpredictable in terms of what we see in terms of results in terms of the things that people care about look i think from the republican side of things republican voters it is crime and it is
[8:03:04]coven 19 mandates they want to get rid of kobat 19 mandates they want somebody who's tough on crime and they want somebody who's going to help balance bring back the economy but when
[8:03:14]it comes to democrats you know kathy hulkel who is the governor who came into office after andrew cuomo stepped down the race on the democrat side is really about hulkel
[8:03:26]saying look elect me because abortion rights and gun laws and legislation those are the things that are important and she hopes those issues especially
[8:03:36]after those two supreme court decisions will galvanize democrats to come out in november so you have zelda who is the front runner hulkel who is the front-runner for her party and they are
[8:03:46]both sending a message that they believe they can defeat one another come november so we'll see yeah brian of course is eldon giving up a seat in congress in the new york
[8:03:56]congressional delegation uh to mount this bid how are people maybe you've spoken to how are they distinguishing him between giuliani that's such a
[8:04:05]fascinating match up there yeah it is because andrew giuliani you know he held his own in these debates giuliani is a no name but andrew
[8:04:16]giuliani does not have the kind of uh experience that zelda has zeldin is a four-term congressman he is a known entity uh andrew giuliani has never held
[8:04:27]political office but he is known as the son of former mayor rudy giuliani who obviously has become a more divisive uh character here in new york uh especially
[8:04:39]you know after his after what we've seen with the president trump and his stance on the election so andrew giuliani has not shied away from his support for president trump in fact he is running on
[8:04:50]being the most trumpian of candidates and zeldan you know he hasn't really run away from it either he says look yeah if the president wants to endorse me i'll gladly accept it but it's andrew who is
[8:05:02]the one that is using uh who is characterizing zeldan as somebody who is a flip-flopper on his uh support of the former president so it'll
[8:05:12]be interesting to see if andrew giuliani wins this election i think it'll be a lot about it'll have to be really it'll be hard not to look at this as as really a
[8:05:24]message that voters here believe that president trump is still a force and that they wanted somebody who was aligned with the trumpian politics so to speak so we'll see
[8:05:35]all right fox's brian yenis there live for us uh in new york at lee zeldin's watch party tonight polls closed about seven minutes ago so we'll be interested to see the turnout in new york brian
[8:05:45]thanks so much [Music] okay right now we do want to uh move on to some of these other races that we are
[8:05:55]tracking in new york state as well uh we're gonna take just a quick commercial break uh when we come back though we'll be speaking uh to one of our fox 5 new york reporters morgan mackay she is at
[8:06:06]kathy hokel's watch party i believe and we'll get kind of the democratic side of the gubernatorial race in two minutes [Music]
[8:07:36][Music] [Music]
[8:08:19]welcome back here to live now from fox on this tuesday night this primary night in certain states all across the country several states that we are following including colorado including utah
[8:08:30]including new york we just had that report from fox's brian yenis at the lee zeldin watch party he's tracking the races on the republican side through the
[8:08:40]gubernatorial election there as they try to mount a challenge to incumbent democrat kathy hokel well we're going out to kathy hokel's watch party right now where we find fox 5 new york's
[8:08:51]morgan makai morgan good to see you um i think a lot of people maybe even some new yorkers might not be aware that kathy hokel is mounting
[8:09:00]at least has some challenges to her left flank what do we know about her opponents [Applause] you're exactly right andrew like you
[8:09:11]said colts just closed a little bit ago but right now she is ahead in the polls only a fraction of the vote is in so far she's being challenged by congressman tom swazzi and on the right he's kind of the more
[8:09:23]moderate candidate and on the left she's being challenged by new york city public advocate jamani williams and he's seen as a more progressive candidate he has a backing of the working families party but if hoka were to win tonight it would
[8:09:34]be the historic win this will be the first time a female candidate has won a democratic primary in the state of new york so this would definitely set history not only that it would really
[8:09:45]just turn the page on this whole cuomo era as well because if you remember she took over for former governor andrew cuomo back in august after he was plagued with scandals from
[8:09:55]under counting coven nursing home deaths to sexual harassment claims there was a numerous claims that he was facing and he decided to resign back in august instead of facing an impeachment trial
[8:10:06]so now governor kathy hokel took over and she's seeking a full term and if she wins tonight it will definitely be a historic win morgan that's so true i that was
[8:10:16]something that i had forgotten that she would become if elected the first female governor in new york state for a full four-year term of course she took over when cuomo resigned you know morgan a
[8:10:28]lot of people are following the lieutenant governor's race as well we all know what happened with hulkel's hand-picked lieutenant governor brian benjamin facing those charges he was
[8:10:38]indicted uh but now she has picked someone else antonio delgado who gave up a congressional seat in new york what do we know about him is he facing a challenge you're exactly right andrew and if you
[8:10:53]look at it i mean for the past three lieutenant governors two of them have ended up with the top job so there has been a huge amount of turnover over the past few years when it comes to
[8:11:03]lieutenant governors just in this past year we have had three separate lieutenant governors governor kathy hokel of course he became the governor and then her appointee brian benjamin who was arrested on federal corruption
[8:11:15]charges he resigned and then the next person is this congressman antonio delgado he's from the hudson valley he took over about a month ago so he's only
[8:11:26]been campaigning for a few weeks so some people see this as a possible upset he's facing anna maria achilla she's got again this backing from the working families party she's been endorsed by
[8:11:37]alexandria ocasio-cortez she has a ton of energy behind her and then we have on the other side diana reyna she was chosen by congressman tom swazi now this
[8:11:47]is a separate election so they could end up with a split ticket the last time that happened was in 1982 mario cuomo won against mayor ed koch at the time
[8:11:56]but ed koch's lieutenant governor peg beat out mario cuomo's so they headed into the general election with a split ticket but that lieutenant governor ended up resigning but these two candidates that are facing delgado today
[8:12:08]say they would still win a run with governor hogal in the general election morgan with some great new york state political history there morgan last
[8:12:18]question for you though what about issues we've heard governor hochul very outspoken in just the last week about two essential and key supreme court rulings the new york gun law and of
[8:12:29]course the overturning of roe v wade is that top of mind for many of the supporters in the room tonight you know i think that was a hope that it
[8:12:40]would energize democrats get them out to vote but here in new york those two issues are pretty settled of course the gun case is going to be settled by the new york state legislature on thursday they're going to pass a package of bills
[8:12:51]they say will help protect new yorkers and things like public transportation times square schools government buildings and so forth they plan to still ban guns when it comes to abortion abortion is very
[8:13:02]well protected here in new york so there isn't as much concern of course there is when you're looking at the national scale but it might energize democrats but right now the voter turnout has been
[8:13:13]incredibly low only about two percent of voters statewide voted early and that's just uh early voting and then of course today there was a little bit more voters turning out but i mean it's going to be
[8:13:23]a pretty low turnout election so it's all going to come down to of course who turns out to vote and where they turn out to vote for example in suffolk county the turnout has been incredibly
[8:13:33]low and i know that the republican candidate andrew giuliani was really looking forward to picking up some votes there so again it's all going to be coming down to who's voting and where they're voting
[8:13:44]all right fox 5 new york's morgan mackay there at governor kathy hokel's watch party tonight on this new york primary night morgan thanks so much thank you andrew
[8:13:57]okay let's uh move away from new york just briefly we have these two live looks you can see here in illinois this one the watch party for incumbent
[8:14:07]democratic governor jb pritzker and of course if he steps up to the podium we will bring that to you here we also have his
[8:14:15]gop opponents watch party there and one of our reporters is in the camera but this is the bailey trussell ticket
[8:14:26]state senator bailey and trussel his running mate trying to oust jb pritzker in illinois we'll see if anything comes of that back
[8:14:36]out to pritzker's watch party we're going to leave this up we're going to go back out to new york i know we're kind of hopping around from state to say that's what we're going to do throughout the primary season we're going to speak
[8:14:48]very soon to fox 5 new york's linda schmidt she is at lee zeldin's watch party stand by for that okay so now only illinois we also are
[8:15:13]tracking uh some of these congressional races in colorado as well we are just uh several months away now from the general election in november uh and this is what
[8:15:23]will give us a sense a good idea of whether or not republicans can take back the house and senate will democrats keep their majorities what's going on with
[8:15:33]governors around the state and state legislatures as well around the country but back out to lee zeldin's watch party in new york and let's get a better sense
[8:15:43]of how this race is going when zeldin is going to speak joining me now is fox 5's linda schmidt linda good to see you who have you spoken to and what have you learned uh first of all good evening to you
[8:15:57]there andrew and i just heard you say just a moment ago that you're hopping around all of these different places around the country and that's what election day is all about right everybody's waiting for all these votes to get tallied so that we know who the
[8:16:08]candidates are ultimately going to be elected today on primary day and then who will be running in the november election now we are here at congressman lee zeldin's campaign headquarters i'm
[8:16:20]just going to step out of the way a little bit i can't really get too much out of the way because i don't have a lot of walking room here but we're just going to pan the room and you can see that the supporters are showing up here
[8:16:29]already at the restaurant here in nassau county where lee zeldin is uh having his campaign headquarters tonight you know the way that it is on every single
[8:16:40]election day as you're going into the evening and you get to the campaign headquarters everybody is happy everybody is hopeful everybody is feeling positive that their candidate is
[8:16:51]going to end up winning now the thing about lee zeldin what he has going for him and this has been very strong for him throughout this election is that he has the support of the state republican
[8:17:02]party so he has the machine behind him supporting him in addition to that he does have a little bit of a political history it was
[8:17:11]back in 2010 that he first won his state senate scene now that was for state here in new york and then back in 2014 he was elected to the house as a member
[8:17:21]of congress who was he running up against well one person and morgan was talking about him who has big name recognition and that's andrew giuliani and of course he is the son of former
[8:17:31]new york city mayor rudy giuliani in addition to that the westchester county executive his name is rob astorino he has relatively good name recognition in the
[8:17:42]hudson valley and in new york city but you get further upstate the name recognition isn't there and then of course you have businessman harry wilson so one thing that like i said that lee
[8:17:54]zeldin has going for him is that the state republican party is behind him his running mate for lieutenant governor her name is alison esposito now she
[8:18:05]had a very long career with the nypd 28 years in fact and she retired not long ago so that she could run for political office because she says that she really wanted
[8:18:16]to be able to make a change politically she realized that working within the nypd she's been able to do a lot of great things for the city of new york make the city safer
[8:18:26]we haven't had safe conditions in recent years but up until that point of course we had the crime rate in new york city was at a record low but she left her position
[8:18:36]with the nypd after 28 years with the police department to run for lieutenant governor and to be the running mate of
[8:18:44]lee zeldin she is also openly gay um one of the things too tonight here as we're waiting for all of this to come through
[8:18:54]is that uh lee zeldin is one of these people he had served in the military he had served in iraq and he is
[8:19:04]really pushing back against the progressive policies big issues from for him cutting up business taxes making
[8:19:13]new york a more business friendly state cutting down crime the things that you would normally hear republicans talk about so he is hoping
[8:19:23]that he ends up winning today because if he does he would be the republican candidate that would run in november and if by some chance and there is a chance
[8:19:33]he could win if by some chance he would win in november he would become the first republican governor in the state of new york since george pataki george
[8:19:43]pataki a republican was very popular in new york he was first elected back in 1994 and he served three terms as a
[8:19:52]republican governor in a blue state so lee zeldin is hoping to be able to do what george pataki did yeah you know linda that is but i think
[8:20:04]maybe some americans do forget that uh you know new york has had republicans uh in high office holding positions uh i want to talk though about process talk
[8:20:14]about the primary itself how we got here today because i don't know if you can offer some reporting on this but the redistricting process really through this date of this primary
[8:20:25]election in doubt there's also another primary election later in august what do we know about that why was there so much kind of electoral turmoil to getting this primary date on the calendar
[8:20:36][Music] okay andrew you're getting into issues that i can't provide you information on at this point 10 o'clock and then
[8:21:09]all right fox 5 new york linda smith linda thank you so much we're going to kind of uh keep tabs on this uh event and and we'll take zeldin's remarks when they happen linda thank you so much
[8:21:18][Applause] okay thanks andrew okay right now we do want to take a quick commercial break though we'll be popping in and out of some of these
[8:21:30]primary night watch parties uh a speaker just got up to the podium there for zeldans event we're also monitoring some of these illinois events in the gubernatorial primary on both the
[8:21:42]democratic and republican sides as well so live now from fox is your go-to source for election related news but we were going to be uh taking a quick commercial break when we come back we'll
[8:21:52]be diving into the details of the galain maxwell sentencing today 20 years the judge handed down more on that in two minutes [Music]
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[8:24:05]welcome back here to live now from fox on this tuesday night well gelane maxwell the jet-setting socialite who once hung out with royals presidents billionaires sentenced today
[8:24:16]to 20 years in prison for helping the financier jeffrey epstein sexually abuse underage girls the sentence was the kind of cap on a trial that explored the
[8:24:28]sordid rituals of a predator power couple who courted the rich and famous as they exploited vulnerable girls as young as 14 we heard from some of the victims
[8:24:39]in their impact statements today speaking outside of the courthouse after the sentencing came down we're going to get to some of those in just a moment here but joining me now
[8:24:49]to get the legal response the legal reaction to this is former federal prosecutor doug burns and our friend of the program doug good to see you what did you think remember just last week when he we had spoken prosecutors were
[8:25:01]asking for 30 to 55 years this judge handed down uh 20. they got 20. yeah well let me explain how we kind of crunch this out those of us who do this
[8:25:12]every day week and weekend first we look at you know what the statutory exposure is and that was up to 55 years when you stack all of them on top of each other that's never the case but that just
[8:25:24]gives you the ballpark parameters then we look at the sentencing guidelines which in this case uh were 30 to 55 years um but those are not mandatorily binding on
[8:25:36]the judge their advisory okay and the go then we look at what the government was recommending as you just said andrew and then we look at what the defense was asking for government asking for 30 plus
[8:25:47]years defense five years you know the government often asks for too much they just do that all the time honestly um knowing that the judge won't do that and i didn't think the judge would give
[8:25:58]anywhere near 30 to 55. the defense is in a little bit of a box real quick because they have to appear obviously to be fighting as hard as they can for their client but at the same time they
[8:26:09]have to maintain some credibility with the court so it's an open question whether asking for five was asking for a little too little but then comes the most important one of all that's the
[8:26:19]united states probation department that's an arm of the court part of the judiciary they were recommending 20 years so my two-step process was you
[8:26:30]average the five the defense was asking for the 30 the government was asking for if you average those that's 17 and a half then you look at what probation was recommending 20 and the judge went along
[8:26:41]with the probation department you know doug what do you think though about if she has any you know legal recourse or remedies in the days weeks
[8:26:53]months ahead uh to you know delay the sentence to appeal the sentence or or is this it well no i mean she has the mandatory right to appeal her trial conviction
[8:27:05]to the court of appeals for the second circuit which governs new york connecticut and vermont so everybody knows this case of course was tried in one of the four districts in new york state federal districts so she has an
[8:27:16]appeal that appeal real quick because people do get confused and you've heard me say this before andrew is not really about whether she's guilty or innocent it's about whether legal mistakes were
[8:27:28]made during the trial uh that would warrant a reversal there are two type of mistakes one is what they call a harmless error in other words a mistake was made by the court by a lawyer but it
[8:27:39]was harmless in the sense that it wouldn't you know affect the outcome of the trial and then you have reversible error which you know in layman's terms and simple english are just much more
[8:27:50]serious errors i don't remember necessarily uh the legal dustups off the top of my head um that we had been discussing as we go through but as we
[8:27:59]look towards the appeal obviously uh we'll refresh ourselves but she will appeal this uh you're not you're not you don't appeal until you're sentenced so today starts the clock it's ten days to
[8:28:10]file a notice of appeal which of course the lawyers will mandatorily do and then we'll see what issues are raised on the appeal uh but that's it as far as delay it's interesting when
[8:28:21]i heard you say that word you know they were trying essentially to delay today a little bit um and they give a lot of credit to the judge i'll explain and i'm sure you read this you know elaine
[8:28:31]maxwell had filed numerous complaints about the conditions of her incarceration and the most recent one was that she had been put on suicide watch but she wasn't suicidal
[8:28:42]um and then came the little neat trick as it were because it really was and she said i did not have access to the legal documents to prepare for sentencing but
[8:28:52]judge nathan posted on the on pacer which is what we lawyers have access to you know for the court file specifically said judge nathan spoke to
[8:29:02]the warden okay and the warden assured her that delane maxwell had access to the documents as well as a writing implement etc and therefore it was not
[8:29:12]adjourned so there's no adjourning anything now you know the appeal will take some time obviously and again it'll be interesting to see what the main legal issues are that are
[8:29:22]raised you know we were getting some uh kind of color commentary from inside court uh about uh verbatim what maxwell said when the sentence came down as she
[8:29:33]addressed some of the victims in the court and she essentially and i'm paraphrasing here i don't have the text in front of me but she said she wished that she had never ever met jeffrey epstein and that she was very sorry though she
[8:29:45]still maintains her innocence and i think a lot of people who have been following this case uh maybe the default is to say well galaine maxwell
[8:29:55]is just a proxy in place for jeffrey epstein because he committed suicide at the manhattan correctional center back in 2019 but no gala maxwell convicted by a jury on some of the same charges that
[8:30:07]jeffrey epstein was accused of sex trafficking abuse of underage girls and so much more what do you think uh just your reaction
[8:30:17]doug to some of that um testimony today inside the court when the sentencing came down did she sound contrite well her statement was a mixed bag
[8:30:29]you had the part that you referenced then you're right which wasn't all that much contrition at all i saw a lot of people on cable and media you know
[8:30:38]semi-angrily saying you know you wish you never met jeff epstein but at the same time you engaged in this conduct over a long period of time you know and we're enjoying all the luxuries and so
[8:30:49]forth you know i get that but then she did flip to the other side a little bit and said i think and exactly like you i don't have it verbatim in front of me but she said
[8:30:59]something like you know about i know the pain i've caused you and i hope that my sentence of incarceration today will bring you closure so that was somewhat
[8:31:09]remorseful um but at the same time i think the conventional wisdom is she could have made a clear statement of remorse and this idea that you raced
[8:31:19]which was so central to the whole case which is i'm nothing more or she's nothing more from the attorney's mouths than a scapegoat at this point now that
[8:31:29]he's gone i said to you before and i'll say it again i'm not so sure that was really so smart actually i mean we don't need to nor do we have the time to do a seminar on the law of conspiracy in
[8:31:40]federal court which is one of the most critical crucial important laws that are worked with every single day in day out week in week out by prosecutors and
[8:31:50]defense lawyers and under the law of conspiracy if you conspire and agree with another participate with them in the crime you're as culpable as they are and that's where people really get hurt
[8:32:01]big time when the judge calmly explains in this case judge allison nathan to the jury in the jury instructions what the law of conspiracy is i'll give you a couple of uh
[8:32:13]aspects of the instruction real quick that caused defense lawyers to literally cringe in their seats ladies and gentlemen even though one defendant's participation may be significantly less
[8:32:24]than the other if you find that they are a conspirator they are equally responsible as every other participant i mean those are the type of legal principles that are very very difficult
[8:32:36]for the defense yeah doug and uh i was surprised that we heard from both the prosecution and the defense today uh outside of the court after the sentencing we're gonna play
[8:32:47]some of those remarks after we're done talking to you let's button this story up now that it is practically over um lessons learned uh this really captured
[8:32:57]the nation's attention uh the saga of jeffrey epstein you know there's that four-part netflix documentary series uh and then this kind of really unknown
[8:33:08]figure uh came about as well in the shadows of this now front and center that of course galen maxwell what do you think her legacy is going to be well you have to look at the legacy of
[8:33:19]the case going back to florida very important and we've discussed this and that is of course that you know he got what most legal experts say was a bit of a sweetheart deal he had the most
[8:33:29]powerful attorneys in the country um you know usually that can be a little bit of a myth you know the best lawyers money can buy but in that particular case i mean he had
[8:33:39]titanic legal figures high-ranking former justice department officials and they reached a deal where he pled guilty um in state court he got 14 months it
[8:33:50]became embarrassing because he was basically out every day the whole day and then just went back to the prison to sleep over and ultimately when that came
[8:33:59]to light um the country was outraged and the southern district of new york brought another case what was fascinating real quick was that in the non-prosecution agreement in florida
[8:34:10]and i'm jogging my own memory in terms of appeal there is some argument that delaine maxwell was immunized believe it or not um because they said that the
[8:34:20]united states will not prosecute other co-conspirators i think she was even named but the the legal x's and o's are going to be that the southern district of florida can't bind the entire
[8:34:31]department of justice the plea agreements provide specifically andrew that they only bind that district and no other district but that'll be raised on appeal but the legacy of the case was that epstein got away with a ton
[8:34:43]and then they came down on him like a ton of bricks maybe 10 times harder to make up for it that's just the way the case went in and then of course galen maxwell to some extent did catch a bad
[8:34:54]break obviously when he became deceased because now she stepped in as sort of the main player but legally just to repeat myself under the loss of conspiracy i mean she the evidence was
[8:35:04]extremely strong against her answer all right uh doug burns ball we appreciate your insight into this you have really walked us and our viewers through this trial and now this
[8:35:15]sentencing gelain maxwell 20 years in prison uh doug good to see you we'll talk again appreciate it thank you okay right now though we do want to make
[8:35:25]sure you get to hear from some of these victims who read out impact statements today in court before the sentence was handed down also members of the prosecution and the defense here in
[8:35:36]lower manhattan i'm sigrid mccauley i'm annie farmer's attorney
[8:35:46]today was a towering day for justice as we saw gillian maxwell was sentenced to 20 years in prison for the crimes she committed against these survivors and so
[8:35:57]many others today showed us that individuals can be held accountable irrespective of power and privilege
[8:36:08]and today showed us that the chorus of voices of these survivors prevailed and showed accountability it's really a victorious day for justice
[8:36:19]and on behalf of all the survivors we've represented we want to thank the prosecutors for their fierce and relentless pursuit of justice here we want to thank the judge for being just and true
[8:36:30]and thoughtful and we want to thank all of you for never stopping and continuing to pursue this story and make sure that their voices were heard so now annie's going
[8:36:40]to make a few statements i think they can probably speak to that but um personally for me that was not an apology she once again did not
[8:36:51]acknowledge her crimes did not take responsibility for them in any way so that was really disappointing may this sentence demonstrate that it is
[8:37:03]never too late for the truth to come out and never too late for there to be accountability if you're someone who's experienced sexual abuse or exploitation and did not feel safe to report those crimes
[8:37:15]or were not believed when you did or were told that the perpetrators would not be held accountable this is for you there's still a lot of work to be done on this issue but in this fight we need to celebrate
[8:37:26]the victories and today this is a big victory the truths about these crimes about child sexual abuse and exploitation are deeply uncomfortable
[8:37:36]they happen more frequently than we want to acknowledge and often perpetrators as we saw in this case are not strangers in vans they're the people that live in our communities and they're people often in positions of
[8:37:48]power maxwell and epstein were predators who were able to use that power and privilege to harm countless individuals and for far too long the institutions that
[8:37:59]should be protecting the public were instead protecting them and i still hope that we find out more about how that was allowed to occur we know that historically though that
[8:38:09]this has happened in many organizations and many institutions that predators are protected in you know in churches in political
[8:38:19]groups in the foster care system and so i just hope that this sentence can be another sign that voices are coming together and saying no more if you commit these crimes you will be
[8:38:30]punished if you facilitate these crimes you will be punished if you are a bystander that looks the other way you will not be allowed to continue to hold a position of power it's easy to focus on the darkness in
[8:38:44]the case like this but i also think it's important to highlight all the people that have worked so hard to bring the truth to light and i want to start by expressing my
[8:38:54]gratitude and appreciation for my sister maria farmer who reported these crimes over decades ago and has so bravely continued to try and bring attention and
[8:39:05]fight for justice in this case for all for the other women who support who spoke in the courtroom i am so grateful for the other survivor sisters that i
[8:39:16]have met on this journey who have worked so hard to make this happen i am incredibly grateful this would not have happened without so many voices coming together i am so incredibly grateful for my team
[8:39:28]of attorneys most especially sigrid mcauley who has gone above and beyond at every step of the way to support us and encourage us that this could happen
[8:39:38]for brad edwards and his team for the for the media who were you know really i think continued to tell the story and try and bring attention to this case
[8:39:49]to uh the agents who worked so hard and dedicated themselves these last few years to the maxwell case into the fierce team of prosecutors who took a chance to bring this to trial
[8:40:01]and to show that she could be held accountable for this heinous penis scheme so how do you feel speaking how do you feel speaking in court uh it
[8:40:12]actually felt very powerful to finally have a chance to speak and and you know have my voice on the record uh and say the things that i wanted to say about how her crimes had impacted the people
[8:40:23]in fact of myself and the people that that i know and care about annie how did you feel listening to her in court uh just i'll just say one more thing that yeah her her statement felt like a
[8:40:34]very hollow apology to me she did not take responsibility for the crimes that she committed and it felt like once more her trying to do something to benefit her uh and not at all about the harm
[8:40:46]that she had caused he's 20 years long enough so everyone thanks for uh
[8:41:01]yeah i'm brad edwards and over the course of the last almost 15 years i've represented over 60 of jeffrey epstein's victims brad edwards
[8:41:11]and this is a major victory not just for annie farmer and kate and some of the others who spoke today but also for the dozens of other victims i'm not only involved in this sex
[8:41:23]trafficking operation but they're being trafficked worldwide i think that it sends a really powerful message to conform with the law and to be deterred from engaging in any form of
[8:41:35]conduct like this whether you are the facilitator groomer perpetrator whoever you are uh nobody is above the law and i think that's the message that everybody understands very loud and clear today i
[8:41:46]think our system works it took a long long time longer than we wanted it to but today is a good and positive day and tells us that our country's still intact in our system it really has worked the right way
[8:41:57]um bill clinton how about bill clinton look there there's a lot of people that have a lot of information we've said for a long time they know things and they should be speaking and the time is now
[8:42:09]and if they're continuing to not speak they're hurting victims they're hurting survivors they're not helping so we could sit here and yell out names of a lot of people who have a lot of power and prestige and they hide behind that
[8:42:20]and instead don't come forward and just do the right thing like a normal good human being there are people that are coward and and i wish that they would come forward and maybe that's one of them um
[8:42:31]i do think that some people who have not been acknowledged today such as courtney wilde this doesn't happen without her virginia roberts it doesn't happen without her maria farmer it doesn't happen without her sarah ransom doesn't
[8:42:43]happen without her it took a team of survivors very courageous people who sacrificed their lives their privacy their children in order to see that
[8:42:54]justice was done for jeffrey epstein and for gilan maxwell some of whom just can't be here today but there's many many that that deserve recognition in
[8:43:04]addition to the lawyers and this wonderful judge who issued a very deliberate and fair decision on the bench just now and in fact helene max was very lucky
[8:43:15]because she was prosecuted for a very distinct set of crimes and there were many other crimes out there and many other victims that she could have been charged with so on a very conservative indictment she's getting 20 years so
[8:43:26]that doesn't sound lucky but in the course of scope of what she did it is do you think that's impressed i can't imagine that anyone was
[8:43:38]impressed by guillen maxwell's statement it was probably the closest thing she's ever come to acknowledgement of anything in her life but it was passive acknowledgement she acknowledged somebody else's pain but not that she
[8:43:50]caused it and obviously she was the perpetrator of the crime to think that she's being charged for something that jeffrey epstein did is arrogant in and of itself she was charged with the crimes she committed and only a fraction
[8:44:01]of them there are other people that should be held accountable i can't talk a whole lot about that but um i don't think that
[8:44:12]this is over if it's over from a criminal perspective it's not over from a civil perspective so we will keep pushing forward until the whole range of people are known what they did and what they didn't do the government prosecutes
[8:44:23]them that would be great thanks everybody okay so members of the prosecution there also
[8:44:34]attorneys for some of the victims who were impacted by the jeffrey epstein-gillane maxwell sexual schemes uh and they were speaking out after the sentence was handed down today we want
[8:44:45]to hear though briefly as well from galaine maxwell's legal team they spoke in reaction to this as well one minute
[8:44:59]lincoln you're good all right folks out of respect for all
[8:45:10]of you and your patients during all of this i am going to make a brief statement but i am not taking any questions so those are the rules of engagement
[8:45:21]we have resisted speaking to you throughout the pendency of this case out of respect for the rules of the court
[8:45:32]but as you can see now the mask is off our client Ghislaine Maxwell has been vilified
[8:45:42]pilloried and it left little room for her to be treated fairly because even before she stepped forward into this courthouse
[8:45:54]she was being tried and convicted in the court of public opinion glenn will appeal this case
[8:46:05]and we are confident that she will prevail on appeal we all know that the person who should have been
[8:46:15]sentenced today escaped accountability avoided his victims
[8:46:24]avoided absorbing their pain and receiving the punishment he truly deserved
[8:46:33]clever and cunning to the end jeffrey epstein left Ghislaine Maxwell holding the whole bag Ghislaine Maxwell should never
[8:46:48]have been denied bail she has endured the most unusual and severe conditions of pretrial
[8:46:59]detention in solitary confinement we recognize that the public at large has little sympathy or compassion for
[8:47:10]inmates that of course is until they themselves or members of their families have brushes with the law and find themselves
[8:47:21]in the midst and thrust into the criminal justice system galen's treatment for 22 months in
[8:47:31]solitary confinement and recently again was abhorrent the conditions in the mdc
[8:47:42]even mentioned by the judge are reprehensible for those of you in the press
[8:47:52]if you need a story if you want a story there is your lead i urge you to run with it
[8:48:02]Ghislaine Maxwell is a truly extraordinary person she has been sentenced to an extremely long
[8:48:13]term of imprisonment for a 60 year old woman who has shown no involvement whatsoever in criminal activity
[8:48:23]for the better part of the past 20 years or anything before the conduct of conviction
[8:48:33]she has been incredibly strong to endure the daily vilification and mistreatment it has been my personal and professional
[8:48:48]privilege to have represented Ghislaine Maxwell and i want to thank her family and her personal attorney
[8:48:59]for their unfailing support of her and we thank all the people who have expressed outrage
[8:49:08]by her situation and that is all i have to say so thank you again to speak in court i thought her statement
[8:49:19]was moving and on point and as everyone should know that anybody who is appealing their
[8:49:30]sentence has the right to maintain the record and the issues on appeal thank you yes
[8:49:45]and so just uh to say that we have nothing and to add to the very heartfelt statement that gilen gave in court and nothing to add to the comments that
[8:49:56]she made about the victims and her sincere hope that the trial her conviction and this sentencing will allow the victims some
[8:50:08]closure and just to echo what bobby sternheim has said guillen will be exercising her right to appeal her conviction and sentence and we
[8:50:20]the family will be solidly behind her all the way thank you very much okay members of gelane maxwell's family
[8:50:34]there in addition to her legal team speaking out after the sentence handed down today a judge throwing the book at her giving her 20 years
[8:50:44]in jail for her alleged sex crimes in addition and in accordance with her relationship with jeffrey epstein that she disavowed in court today as she said
[8:50:55]she wished she had never met him there so fiery words from her legal team they say she's been pillory throughout the entire duration of this and they plan to appeal i'm andrew kraft we're coming up on the
[8:51:07]top of the seven o'clock hour here almost as we continue to track all of these primary races in several states from across the country midterm season in full swing we'll have updates on
[8:51:17]those in two minutes [Music]
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[8:53:20]welcome back here to live now from fox on this tuesday night i'm andrew kraft we want to go out to illinois now as we've been tracking some of the gubernatorial primary elections there between the democrats and the
[8:53:32]republicans right now the republican speaking at his watch party if you don't know who this is this is state senator darren bailey he has
[8:53:42]won the republican nomination for the gubernatorial race and he will take on governor jb pritzker on the democratic side
[8:53:51]in november let's listen in before the sun comes up and often we work until after it goes down and that's certainly the kind of work ethic we're
[8:54:02]going to need to get springfield back on track we fix things that are broken we solve problems and we grow things
[8:54:11]and as a matter of fact over 250 years ago it was a group of farmers who founded and grew the greatest country on the
[8:54:20]face of this earth and i think they did a pretty good job i'm proud to be an american
[8:54:32]i'm proud to be the son of the great state of illinois but we're all here because we know that illinois is in trouble
[8:54:41]decade after decade of mismanagement in springfield back-to-back billionaire governors who don't understand the struggles of working people
[8:54:51]and where has that gotten us nowhere people and businesses leaving illinois in droves looking for work affordable housing
[8:55:03]lower taxes and better opportunities they're leaving spring they're leaving because springfield and the political elites have failed every one of us
[8:55:13]and now the elites and the press say that pritzker's a shoe-in [Applause] you get it
[8:55:25]they say our fate's set that a farmer can't beat a billionaire friends the funny thing is
[8:55:37]these same people said that we couldn't win the primary
[8:55:40][Applause]
[8:55:49]we were outspent by tens of millions of dollars in the primary and look what happened tonight this is how it's done
[8:55:58][Applause] our movement is growing when people show up in november like you showed up tonight
[8:56:10]we will win [Music] here's a tip and some advice for jb pritzker
[8:56:20]start packing friends because on november 8th you're fired
[8:56:36]that's what's going to happen god bless you friends billionaires like pritzker can't
[8:56:47]relate to the struggles of working people and taxpayers like us it's that simple you and i have to balance our family budgets billionaire pritzker has never had to
[8:56:58]and he's lying to us about the state's budget let me share some truth with you each of the state's five pension funds have been four billion dollars short of
[8:57:10]what they should be if he's balancing the budget well he's using your retirement money to do it pritzker doesn't understand how
[8:57:22]skyrocketing gas prices and soaring food prices make everyday life harder for illinois families like you and i he doesn't understand how his and joe
[8:57:34]biden's extreme national agenda helps fuel inflation and increases utility bills for families like us across illinois
[8:57:43]he doesn't understand the damage that his lockdowns did to small businesses schools mental health and working families all across this state
[8:57:54]he doesn't understand that his war on police has fueled the war on our streets making our neighborhoods dangerous all across this state
[8:58:06]so dangerous that many parents are afraid to let their kids walk home from school friends we've witnessed that in chicago it's coming friend it's coming help is
[8:58:20]on the way [Applause] you've been there with me from the
[8:58:33]beginning mr snouts thank you pritzker's anti-police and anti-public safety measures like no cash bail are
[8:58:43]why violent criminals roam free and why no one is safe pritzker doesn't understand that his okay so uh our reporter there in the
[8:58:55]room getting into the shop there no doubt he must have to do a report at the top of the hour it is now seven o'clock here on the west coast it is nine o'clock there in illinois where we have
[8:59:06]the match-up is set governor jb pritzker has won the democratic nomination after facing a primary challenge from progressive nurse
[8:59:15]beverly miles he'll face state senator darren bailey that's who you were listening to right there at his acceptance speech his victory election night watch party he's an ultra
[8:59:26]conservative he's a staunch opponent of abortion he was endorsed just on saturday by former president donald trump former president trump coming to
[8:59:36]illinois just last weekend to hold a rally there in light and in the run-up to the primary elections tonight he fended off a challenge by the mayor
[8:59:47]of aurora illinois richard irvin so once we uh get more on this we will also be speaking to that reporter there fox 32's dane placo
[8:59:59]as state senator bailey uh is still speaking to his supporters in the room there so this matchup is set we're also tracking this one there in new york we
[9:00:10]want to take the remarks live from lee zeldin once he steps up to the podium he is the republican candidate running for governor he's facing primary
[9:00:20]challengers as well as they all want to take on incumbent democrat kathy hokel who is also facing a challenger from her left flank
[9:00:31]we are also monitoring back to illinois and we have our reporter in the shop there she's standing by at jb pritzker's watch party in illinois as he has won like we just
[9:00:42]reported the democratic nomination as he seeks a second term so there's a lot going on uh when it comes to some of these primary night races uh we've got
[9:00:52]you covered we'll be touching on several of them throughout the night here like i said it's just a little bit after the top of the hour when we come back though we'll be talking to dane placo like we said we'll
[9:01:03]also be getting an update from authorities in arizona they just wrapped up a press conference it was very brief our reporter standing by as we are going to get an update on a
[9:01:15]barricade situation not sure if it is still ongoing or if it has wrapped up hopefully we'll get an update from fox 10's marissa sarbak she's on
[9:01:26]the scene this is near flagstaff arizona so all of that and more here on live now from fox in two minutes [Music]
[9:02:57][Music] welcome back here to live now from fox
[9:03:44]it is a busy tuesday we have a lot more stories left to get to uh including recapping uh some of those primary races that are happening in states across the country like illinois like new york we
[9:03:55]want to stay though for our next story here in arizona in a very small town outside of flagstaff where an arizona deputy was shot today and a barricade situation was ongoing
[9:04:07]authorities just updated the public let's listen in very briefly thank you everyone for coming on such
[9:04:27]short notice my name is kristen green i'm the public affairs director for the yavapai county sheriff's office i'm going to make a brief statement and we're not going to take any questions at this moment
[9:04:37]we would like to confirm for you that our deputy who was shot in the line of duty today has passed away here at the hospital surrounded by his family
[9:04:47]we also want to confirm that the suspect after a long barricade has been apprehended and as in custody and we also would let you know that sheriff david rhodes was out of town on
[9:04:59]business but immediately jumped a plane and he will be landing here in phoenix shortly and he will definitely be giving some more information to all of you with some details of what occurred today
[9:05:10]he wanted to convey to everyone right now how upset and his condolences go out to the family and to all of the fellow officers you see behind us who worked so hard
[9:05:21]today and worked with with our deputy we ask that you respect us not giving out the deputy's name yet we need to make sure that all of his family members have in fact been
[9:05:32]alerted first other than that we will let you know when there's more information to be had and when sheriff roads will be available to also have a press conference with all of
[9:05:42]you we will be here in the phoenix area i will i will give
[9:05:52]you some idea of of when uh that happens i'll give you more notice than this time okay no thank you thank you all okay you can see there those authorities
[9:06:10]and law enforcement behind her are just shocked shaken up you can see her voice trembling there as they announced that this deputy who was shot today has succumbed to his injuries uh
[9:06:21]and that barricaded suspect taken into custody joining me now uh even further from the scene to talk about how this all got underway and the tragic conclusion fox 10 phoenix reporter
[9:06:33]marissa sarbak marissa tell our viewers where you are and take us back to how this began today andrew we're about 45 minutes north in courtesy lake of where that
[9:06:44]deputy was brought to the hospital just south of us towards closer towards the phoenix area so we're a little bit further north but we're in the neighborhood where yamapai county sheriff's office first told us that this all happened telling us that that
[9:06:56]yavapai county sheriff's deputy was shot here in this neighborhood we're standing just off the side here of stagecoach road in red rock lane and we are told it happened in one of the homes behind me here so i'll just step out of the way
[9:07:07]you can see obviously a little bit smaller of a scene than we were here earlier when we spoke with dakota about what was happening because then it was a very active barricade situation with the
[9:07:17]suspect accused of shooting and killing that yavapai county sheriff's deputy here at one of these homes just at the intersection and again no longer an active scene here as you heard just from that press conference a little bit
[9:07:28]earlier there just telling us that they were able to capture that man he is now in custody and so it's much calmer than it was just earlier we were told from neighbors that this started at about one
[9:07:39]o'clock this afternoon that's when they started seeing posts on facebook realizing what was happening and they started hearing the police officers and sirens just all around their neighborhood so a very scary situation
[9:07:49]for a lot of people this afternoon here totally marissa this is a small community but i might have missed it but what jurisdiction
[9:07:59]what force was that deputy with so this is yavapai county sheriff's office territory but we saw law enforcement agencies from all over here
[9:08:09]we saw prescott we saw fire departments coming out we saw swat teams coming out there were a lot of state troopers and that footage that we had from earlier there were just you could see dozens of law enforcement vehicles and because we
[9:08:20]are in this small neighborhood they had actually shut it down from so many directions because they knew there was that active barricade situation so the deputy that we are talking about that we just found out has died is a yavapai
[9:08:32]county sheriff's deputy there but of course as i just mentioned so many law enforcement officials from so many different agencies responding to a situation like this which is pretty typical all right so last question though
[9:08:43]where's that suspect being held has uh he you know is he going to be brought in and arraigned tonight what do we know typically the process for that is they
[9:08:54]will go before a judge within the first 24 hours but we actually do not know exactly right now i'm just going to step out of the way my photographer wanted to show off the scene because we can see a little bit more here as some of these
[9:09:04]law enforcement vehicles clear out but typically andrew will see them go before a judge for that initial viewing there before a judge in the first 24 hours but that video and that
[9:09:16]press conference that we just heard live that was just maybe 10 minutes ago they gave out that press conference and updated us even telling us that that deputy had died so not sure at this moment we do know the suspect was
[9:09:27]apprehended but we're not sure where he went at this point we just know he's in custody all right fox 10's mercies are back there live for us on the scene with uh a really tragic culmination to this
[9:09:38]barricade situation from earlier today marissa thanks so much we'll talk again andrew thanks okay right now we want to get back into politics uh governor kathy
[9:09:49]hokel just stepped up to the podium to speak to her supporters at her election night watch party let's listen in oh that's nice and quiet
[9:10:02]didn't even have to use my mom voice i know that i'm on this stage for many reasons i'm here because of the unconditional
[9:10:15]love of my family starting with my parents jack and pat courtney who started married life in a trailer park
[9:10:24]i'm here because of the undying love of my life partner my soul mate my husband bill and need i point out
[9:10:39]that is new york's first first gentleman bill hulkel and i have two children
[9:10:52]who were preschoolers when their mother first ran for office in my opinion they turned out okay they may have another story about living the life of the children of a lifelong
[9:11:02]politician but katie and will hulkel and your life partners as well christina and matt i thank you for all the sacrifice and the love you give me
[9:11:12]and also you gave me beautiful sophia my first granddaughter who is behind the stage [Applause]
[9:11:23]you'll see her the next election night as well but i'm also standing here because of the tireless work of so many men and women
[9:11:35]of labor who are out there protecting our families and protecting our rights and our and our faith leaders and those who are so focused on lifting our community up
[9:11:46]for the community leaders and all the party leaders and the faithful and the people been out there knocking on doors and standing at subway stops i love meeting people at subway stuffs i might
[9:11:57]be back out there tomorrow who knows [Applause] i'm also here because i stand on the shoulders of
[9:12:08]generations of women generations of women who constantly had a bang up against that glass ceiling to the women of new
[9:12:19]york this one's for you [Applause] i also want to thank
[9:12:29]public advocate jimani williams for his passion and dedication of the people of this city we will continue to work together and build a more equitable and just new
[9:12:40]york and how about that lieutenant governor do not just love antonio i want to delgado him what a sweeping success
[9:12:51]and all those who said it couldn't be done well guess what he just did it so i look forward to working with him for many many years to come
[9:13:01]we have a lot of challenges ahead of us but there's no partner i'm looking forward to doing this with for the next four years and beyond than antonio delgado our brand new lieutenant governor
[9:13:11][Applause] my friends it has been the highest honor of my life
[9:13:22]to serve as your governor for the past 10 months and what a 10 months it's been right from the start our kids were heading back to school as
[9:13:34]we're seeing an increase a surge in delta and on top of it hurricanes immediately struck and people lost their lives in their
[9:13:44]homes and the cost of living kept going up and up and up workers small businesses and families were dealing with excruciating stress and financial challenges
[9:13:56]and the crime and violence that has taken so many lives and most shockingly
[9:14:05]my own hometown of buffalo new york we lost some of my neighbors it's hard to still comprehend that as well as the day-to-day victims of gun violence in our streets and cities all
[9:14:16]across the state yet we faced all those challenges we faced all those challenges and you know what we persevered
[9:14:26]and we prevailed you know why you know why because we're new yorkers and we get things done that's what new yorkers do and let me tell you a little bit about
[9:14:38]what we did we passed nation-leading gun safety laws to help improve safety and take the guns off our streets
[9:14:48]and to get the guns out of people's hands who are dangerous and two days from now two days from now
[9:14:58]we will respond to the supreme court's assault on my right as the governor of new york to protect new yorkers from concealed
[9:15:08]weapons we're meeting on thursday we're going to deal them and we've gone on offense
[9:15:19]to protect abortion rights increasing protections for providers increased our funding expanding our capacity and making the world know that
[9:15:30]new york state is a safe harbor for america's women you come here and we put money back in the pockets of
[9:15:44]hard-working new yorkers from rent and utility relief property tax cuts and chipping away at the price of guests and we've made historic investments
[9:15:55]in public education to help our kids get back on track after two long rough years and to all the parents out there we've
[9:16:06]expanded child care so hundreds of thousands more children can have a good outlook outcome in life and know that their parents are going to be okay as well we've also delivered historic
[9:16:17]investments in infrastructure clean energy you know what that's all about to me you know i love that because that's all about union jobs and we're creating even thousands more and yes
[9:16:29][Applause] that's just the last 10 months and what we're going to do oh there's so much more to do we're just getting started
[9:16:41]and so and so as we look forward to that work we must answer one question one question are we going to move new york forward
[9:16:53]we're going to let the far right extremists drag our state backwards you tell me i know the answer you know the answer and there's only one party that can take us forward and who is that
[9:17:04]that's the democrat party those are the democrats democrats get that done and we cannot and will not
[9:17:16]let right-wing extremists set us backwards on all the decades of progress we've made right here whether it's a trump cheerleader running for the governor of the state of new york or
[9:17:28]trump's appointed justices on the supreme court and just this week i'm going to say it one more time because this was a really bad week out of washington and a lot of people i met at the subway
[9:17:38]staffs came up to me and a number of women cried in my arms because people are so anxious they're worried about safety they're worried about their basic human rights as women
[9:17:48]and just this past week supreme court came after our right to protect citizens from guns on the streets and abolish the ability to have women's autonomy over their own bodies
[9:18:00]so once again our rights are at stake but yes what are we going to do about it we're going to fight back rights and freedoms that we secured 1c4
[9:18:11]we have to secure again but my friends let me tell you this we are not powerless
[9:18:22]we will not see these rights and when one side declares war the other side has a choice are we going to surrender are we going to fight back i know what i'm
[9:18:32]going to do i'm fighting back i'm fighting back against that no matter what the supreme court thinks they can do new yorkers you are protected
[9:18:42]protected from concealed weapons protecting from concealed weapons on our subways in our schools and places like this we're protected from politicians and judges trying to control women's
[9:18:53]bodies resulting in government mandated pregnancies that's what they want to have abortion rights aren't going anywhere as
[9:19:01]long as i'm your governor but i can't do this alone i'm relying on all of you and the energy
[9:19:12]in this room and out there in the streets it's your support your energy your activism and ultimately your vote this november we are in this together
[9:19:23]now i'm just gonna close because i know you're all anxious just to party i can tell i can tell this part this party wants to party right okay democrat okay but give me one more minute
[9:19:34]so i just have a couple more questions for you so are you with me when we show the rest of the nation what it really means to protect women's rights are you with me
[9:19:46]for that are you with me when we lead the nation in protecting families and school children and workers from the scourge of gun violence are you
[9:19:58]with me for that are you with me we protect the rights of the lgbtq plus community and marriage
[9:20:07]equality are you with me when we do that are you with me as we empower and lift up people in communities of color and break down historic ferries that have
[9:20:17]led kept so many people back are you with or you break down those barriers and are you with me as you create thousands more jobs invest in our small businesses and make sure affordable
[9:20:28]housing is a reality for all families are you with me when we do that and finally and finally are you with me when we stand up for real new york
[9:20:40]values our hard-earned rights that we've had since seneca falls all the way to stonewall are you with me because i'm with all of you let's do
[9:20:54]this together thank you thank you god bless new york and god bless america thank you everybody [Applause] new york governor kathy hokel there
[9:21:05]speaking to her supporters she has won the democratic primary in new york state want to go over some more of these races that have been called since we were last
[9:21:15]bringing this to you so uh remember we just showed you kathy hokel she has won the democratic nomination of course we are still waiting for the republican races here for the
[9:21:26]gubernatorial nomination on the gop side this is lee zeldin's watch party once he steps up to the podium to speak we will bring that
[9:21:36]to you here we're also learning that illinois governor that race illinois republicans have chosen the conservative state senator darren bailey we've been showing you his
[9:21:46]remarks previously he will take on democratic governor jb pritzker this fall we have a live look out of jb pritzker's watch party that illinois
[9:21:56]senator tammy duckworth speaking out about pritzker's win tonight we are also learning in the oklahoma governor and the oklahoma senate race
[9:22:07]that kevin stitt the incumbent has won his nomination and that james lankford the incumbent republican senator has won
[9:22:16]his race so a lot of these races are wrapping up here vote totals coming in polls have closed in most of them so when we get these events we'll bring them to you here live we're going to take just a quick
[9:22:28]commercial break though when we come back we have a lot more stories left to get to including an update on that deadly train derailment in missouri yesterday the death toll going up we heard from ntsb officials today we'll
[9:22:40]have that and more in two minutes [Music]
[9:24:06][Music] welcome back here to live now from fox
[9:24:59]uh and that is a look from yesterday of that amtrak derailment remember that train was on its way from los angeles to chicago it derailed in mendon
[9:25:10]missouri we've been speaking to our reporters there the last couple of days and now the death toll unfortunately rising to four four people killed including
[9:25:22]that driver of that dump truck that dump truck that was on the tracks that collided with the train at the time ntsb officials
[9:25:31]gave an update uh earlier this afternoon we want to take the opportunity to play that for you right now with the latest in their investigation let's listen in and then we will also be
[9:25:43]moving on to some of these other top headlines but first out to the ntsb in mendon missouri good afternoon i'm jennifer hamandi
[9:26:00]and i'm the chair of the national transportation safety board with me today you can step up a little bit is ruben pion who was our assistant investigator in charge of this
[9:26:12]investigation uh in total we have a team of 15 here plus me so a total of 16 with a number of specialists from
[9:26:23]mechanical specialists to survival factors that look at crash worthiness and transportation disaster assistance and others and i'm happy to go into more
[9:26:34]of our team and questions if you're not familiar with the national transportation safety board we're an independent federal agency that's charged by congress
[9:26:46]with investigating every civil aviation accident in the united states and significant events and other modes of transportation including rail
[9:26:56]and highway crashes our mission is to determine what happened why it happened to prevent reoccurrence of that incident
[9:27:07]in the future before i go on i do want to say on behalf of the national transportation safety board
[9:27:19]to the families of those who lost loved ones in this tragedy we extend our deepest
[9:27:28]condolences and the survivors who continue to face challenges over the next several months or years
[9:27:37]whether it's physical or mental pain and anguish we will think of you in the weeks days and months to come at 12 43 p.m
[9:27:52]local time yesterday june 27th amtrak train four was traveling east on the southwest
[9:28:01]chief which is their long distance line from los angeles to chicago at the same time a truck that was owned
[9:28:12]that is owned and operated by ms contracting llc based in brookfield missouri was transporting aggregate to an army corps
[9:28:23]of engineers project just north of the crossing the truck traversed the crossing and came into the path of amtrak train 4.
[9:28:35]the train struck the back part of the truck and then the train derailed the train consisted of two locomotives
[9:28:46]six coach cars a cafe car and a baggage car and again all derailed this is our full first full day on scene
[9:28:57]so we are gathering a lot of information at this time and i'm going to give you an idea of some of that information first of all we're downloading the event
[9:29:07]recorder that event recorder is going to give us information on when the locomotive engineer blew the horn it's going to give us information on the
[9:29:17]speed of the train in this area this the speed limit is 90 miles per hour it's gonna give us information on the brake application whether whether it was
[9:29:29]full service brake application or emergency braking we're also downloading the two forward facing cameras there was not an inward
[9:29:39]facing camera but there are two forward-facing cameras there's also an electronic control module on the truck the road vehicle
[9:29:49]that we're going to want to take and look at see if it's damaged and see if we can download similar information from that vehicle we're downloading data from the wayside
[9:29:59]and signal systems and we began interviews of the crew there were 12 crew members on board the train so we do want to talk with them
[9:30:10]and that is continuing as we have that this press conference in addition we have two members from our transportation disaster assistance team
[9:30:20]that is working with the families victims were transported to 10 different hospitals so our disaster assistance team will go
[9:30:32]to the hospitals and meet with survivors and families of victims they will also go to the family assistance center
[9:30:43]in columbia and work with the red cross we'll then have an organizational meeting tomorrow morning where we will determine
[9:30:53]what our next steps are i know i'm going to get questions on the numbers of injuries and the number of fatalities i've
[9:31:03]seen and heard a lot of numbers today and i'm not comfortable with releasing any information unless i'm exact on that information so i'm going
[9:31:13]to defer injury and fatality numbers to the medical examiner i do want to take a moment
[9:31:23]and thank our safety partners and those who are working with us on this investigation and those include bnsf railway amtrak
[9:31:33]the federal railroad administration the missouri department of transportation who i spoke to today patrick mckenna was on scene the missouri state highway patrol
[9:31:45]a number of local emergency responders that came when this tragedy occurred and of course as i mentioned our tremendous
[9:31:55]partnership with american red cross thank you for all you do i also want to take a moment i have not had an opportunity to speak with the troop leaders but i understand there
[9:32:05]were two boy scout troops with leaders on the train boy scout troops 73 and 12 based in appleton wisconsin
[9:32:14]and i understand that they were providing assistance after the after the accident and so i do plan to
[9:32:24]reach out to those troops and thank them for those efforts i do want to take a moment and talk about passive grade crossings so this was a passive brick grade
[9:32:36]crossing there are active crossings and passive crossings what makes this a passive crossing is there was a stop sign
[9:32:45]and cross bucks there were no arms there were no warning lights there were no bells those are active crossings
[9:32:57]in the united states there are about 130 000 passive crossings about 50 percent
[9:33:07]of crossings in the u.s in missouri there are 3 500 passive crossings it's about half of their crossings as well
[9:33:18]53 percent of grade crossing incidents in missouri occur at passive crossings and so uh the ntsb has issued
[9:33:28]recommendations for a number of years on either closing crossings consolidating crossings separating grade crossings and
[9:33:40]making grade crossings that are not separated or consolidated active crossing so that there are gates bells whistles to provide warning
[9:33:51]to drivers that approach crossings in addition we have recommended since 1998 and 1998
[9:34:01]we did a study on passive grade crossings and technology and we made recommendations on technology in roadway vehicles that
[9:34:12]could alert drivers of the presence of a train on approach to a great crossing we still don't see action on that it's
[9:34:21]been 24 years and that recommendation is still as important today as it was in 1998. lives could be saved and so with that i'm going to take some
[9:34:33]questions i do want folks if you have a question to raise your hand i'll call on you please state your name and your affiliation one question if i have to come around for
[9:34:44]more rounds i will do that jackson with fox 4 news in kansas city are you guys aware of the complaints that people in the city and the
[9:34:54]commissioners had about this particular crossing going all the way back to 2019. uh the question is is the ntsb aware of complaints about this crossing going
[9:35:05]back since to 2019 we will be aware uh we are we have not been aware that there have been specific complaints about this crossing however
[9:35:17]today i did ask the missouri d.o.t director if this crossing was one that was in a list of crossings that
[9:35:29]they wanted to upgra upgrade he did confirm that for this crossing i did ask how much it would cost uh to
[9:35:38]ins to make this an active crossing and uh the figures i was provided was about four hundred thousand dollars uh but that is more information that we are
[9:35:49]going to seek from the state and others chair peter that these recommendations were out there that no doubt was going to try and fix this
[9:35:58]uh crossing and then did nothing what's the emotion like there for you that these these neighbors share that they wish something was done earlier they know it was a problem
[9:36:08]yeah uh great question the question is uh what what are my emotions on this uh am i angry
[9:36:18]with the state and others for not taking action on our recommendations we're just on the crossing itself and any time our recommendations aren't
[9:36:28]heated of course i'm upset because we see tragedy after tragedy after tragedy and numerous fatalities and injuries and
[9:36:38]we know and it's very frustrating for our investigators very frustrating when they are on scene and they know what it would have prevented this but
[9:36:49]you know at the same time uh my you know my concern especially when we arrive on scene is for the families and just how
[9:37:00]tragic this is i mean i love travel by train i love to ride amtrak i've run amtrak on the empire builder in
[9:37:11]numerous lines it is one of the safest forms of transportation is rail and so it is so sad uh when a life is lost
[9:37:20]uh as a result of of traveling uh uh a way that you love so it's it's it's heartbreaking and i really feel for
[9:37:30]the families and then you mark slavic with krcg's cbs affiliate for columbia and jefferson city my question for you is how knowing
[9:37:40]what you know now how confident are you that you will come up with the cause of the accident and how long does it take before we know exactly how fast the train was traveling during the accident
[9:37:52]uh i'm hoping we'll be able to confirm the data on the question was the speed of the train and i'm hoping we'll have an answer for
[9:38:03]you on the speed the train was traveling tomorrow i've been given some preliminary information but i want to make sure the data is accurate we want to make sure that the information that
[9:38:14]was put in on the size of the wheels uh produced the right information for the speed and so we just want to confirm that so i hope to have that to you tomorrow
[9:38:25]um and i'm sorry what was the other question how confident are you that you will come up with because of this
[9:38:34]very confident how confident am i on the cause of the accident but you know when when we look at the cause we don't just look at the immediate
[9:38:44][Music] okay so we wanted to replay for our viewers who might not have seen this live today this was the ntsb latest
[9:38:53]press conference out of mendon missouri and we got an update from the missouri state highway patrol now four fatalities
[9:39:03]in that train derailment just yesterday afternoon including that driver of that dump truck and you heard from this ntsb official they are not
[9:39:14]sure yet about how fast the train was going at the time or a cause for the derailment in the meantime we do want to keep you updated on a number of these primary races that we are
[9:39:25]following uh from across the country two states specifically tonight new york and illinois uh and that's where we find fox 32's dane placo who is at the republican now
[9:39:37]nominee for governor in the state of illinois state senator darren bailey for those who don't know who senator bailey is dame enlighten them so uh
[9:39:49]derek bailey is 56 years old he's a farmer from downstate lewisville illinois which is about 30 miles south of where we're at right now we're in effingham which is about an hour south
[9:40:00]of champaign-urbana home at the university of illinois he comes from this area uh he is a fairly recent entrance in entrance into
[9:40:10]politics he first ran for the state legislature in 2017 uh won a state rep seat then won a state senate seat now he's running for governor of illinois and has secured the republican
[9:40:22]nomination [Music] and dane we're learning as well because former president trump had a rally in illinois over the weekend where he
[9:40:32]secured bayley or excuse me bailey secured trump's endorsement how much do you think that had an impact in today's race [Music]
[9:40:42]it certainly helped him uh it was not a real large turnout for this primary race here in illinois and so uh the trump uh trump support over the
[9:40:52]weekend at a rally in quincy illinois uh certainly may have played a factor in the late surge of votes in the direction of darren bailey he also got a lot of help
[9:41:03]ironically from the democratic governor of illinois jb pritzker pritzker and the democratic governors association put 35 million dollars into
[9:41:14]anti-richard richard irvin adds richard irvin is one of the other republican uh gubernatorial candidates who was in this race uh they believe that irvin who's more of a moderate he's the mayor of
[9:41:25]aurora a suburb west of chicago would pose a tougher challenge to uh jv pritzker so they backed uh they backed essentially bayley by targeting irvin
[9:41:36]and uh those ads they ran against irvin were very effective in fact irvin was leading by a wide margin just about six weeks ago and uh he blew up
[9:41:46]over the last few weeks and bailey's going to win this race handily dane just last question for you we're about to go out live jb pritzker speaking right now what has jb pritzker
[9:41:57]said about his now republican opponent state senator bailey there what do you um kind of foresee as this race gets into november months away yeah it's going to be interesting
[9:42:11]because that trump endorsement we've talked about a moment ago is sort of a double-edged sword here in illinois it helped him certainly among the republican base the conservatives but illinois is a very blue state and
[9:42:22]chicago certainly a blue city in a blue state uh and so pritzker is going to use that campaign appearance that rally by trump with uh
[9:42:33]darren bailey and you're going to see it over and over and over especially in the chicago media market where trump is very unpopular especially targeting suburban uh women
[9:42:44]where uh all the polling is showing that trump has lost a lot of favor he's gonna try to tie darren bailey to donald trump as much as he can so we'll have to see uh
[9:42:55]how uh bailey's able to respond to that we asked him about that here briefly a couple of minutes ago and he kind of averted the question just saying that he's uh he knows he's going to be outspending this race but he says he's
[9:43:06]going to outwork everybody else all right fox 32's dame placo there live for us in illinois this is definitely one of those governor's races to watch as we get closer to november dane thanks
[9:43:17]so much [Music] sure all right uh we do want to move on uh and show you as well some of jb pritzker's remarks he's speaking with
[9:43:28]his supporters flanked behind him his family behind him to his election night watch party hear his remarks live as they happen for his unwavering belief in the
[9:43:41]abolition of slavery and the free press and yes darren bailey you have to love chicago
[9:43:52][Applause] with its deep dish and italian beef with
[9:44:04]the cubs and the socks with this with the summers that make you forget the winters and the and the people who remind you every day
[9:44:14]of the promise this country was founded upon and if you don't love all the many and varied regions of illinois you won't
[9:44:24]stand up and fight for it politicians time and again have tried to divide illinoisans for political advantage too many have been willing to
[9:44:35]pit one region against another to try to win an election it's a cheap play that takes little effort illinois shouldn't be gamed its people
[9:44:45]are not to be sacrificed for electoral cycles to take aim at one part of illinois is to target all illinoisans and if you want to be the governor of illinois you
[9:44:57]have to love all 13 million of the people that live here regardless of how they vote
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[9:45:12]and just for the record mayor irvin that is what j.b pritzker wants you to be talking about [Applause]
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[9:45:38]the people of illinois elected me because they were ready to turn the page on the past and i owe them nothing less than an unrelenting fight for the future
[9:45:49]a few days ago donald trump came to our state and he did what he does best
[9:46:00]spew bile on the ground and hope that it takes root in our soil and proudly standing by his side was the republican nominee for governor of
[9:46:10]illinois darren bailey let me be clear someone who seeks out and accepts the
[9:46:20]endorsement of a racist misogynistic homophobic xenophobic twice impeached former president does not deserve to come anywhere near this
[9:46:31]state's highest office darren bailey cannot side with the
[9:46:44]insurrectionists at the capitol assert that the 2020 election was stolen and say that women and their doctors should be jailed for having an abortion even in
[9:46:53]cases of rape and incest and expect to be handed the keys to the governor's office not in illinois [Music]
[9:47:07]we're the land of lincoln the home state of barack obama the birthplace of the jain collective we were the first state to ratify the
[9:47:19]end of slavery and the start of women's suffrage and for those who need reminding
[9:47:30]illinois fought with the union in the civil war [Applause] darren bailey does not represent illinois values i believe in this state and are
[9:47:44]pragmatic tough kind and genuine people just like the glaciers thousands of years ago that forged illinois's rolling
[9:47:53]prairies and rich farmland the challenges that we've overcome have made us strong i believe deeply in the fundamental rights of every person to live a life of
[9:48:04]their own design with acceptable accessible health care quality education safe schools clean air reproductive freedom
[9:48:16]and civil rights [Applause] a place where people can be who they are
[9:48:24]and love who they love without fear i believe in a country where leaders elected to make things better for you
[9:48:35]spend every day fighting the real fights for you not the fake ones i believe in electing people who know it's not fair to ask you to work three
[9:48:45]jobs to afford one home who will fight for wages okay we've been listening into illinois governor jb pritzker there he clinched
[9:48:56]the democratic nomination as he seeks a second term as governor we now know we just spoke to fox 32 chicago reporter dame placo who was at his now opponent
[9:49:07]on the republican side watch party known as state senator darren bailey so the illinois match-up is set we are awaiting
[9:49:16]another on the new york match-up lee zeldin will be taking the podium very very soon there he has clinched the republican nomination for governor here
[9:49:26]in new york state he'll take on incumbent democrat governor kathy hokel later in the fall we're going to be moving away from some of these
[9:49:36]primary races and the coverage tonight we are going to be showing you lee zeldin's remarks when they happen if not live we'll play them out pre-recorded as well when we come back though we want
[9:49:46]the latest out of russia's war in ukraine also recapping what happened at the g7 and what's to come ahead at the nato summit in madrid so more on that in two
[9:49:57]minutes [Music]
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[9:52:00]welcome back here to live now from fox on this tuesday night i'm andrew kraft we want to get into some more of these international headlines uh of course the summits president biden has attended and
[9:52:10]is now attending uh with the g7 countries and nato countries as well but take a look at this tweet just want to put this up on the screen for you that is from nato secretary general jens
[9:52:21]stoltenberg saying we now have an agreement that paves the way for finland and sweden to join nato i thank presidents erdogan and the swedish and finnish
[9:52:31]leaders there for the constructive spirit that made this historic decision possible so turkey lifting its opposition to finland and sweden's nato bids
[9:52:42]joining me now to discuss this even further is national security expert hal kempfer hal uh thanks so much for being with us it's a very busy night here but we wanted to get this news in major news
[9:52:52]you and i had kind of predicted this but the nato summit already coming out with a win with a success here well andrew i think was more than just you and i predicting it everybody saw
[9:53:02]this as as erdogan basically kind of playing for his own political base if you will at home uh showing he was a powerful person on the international stage and and he achieved
[9:53:13]that the agreement they actually they actually reached really wasn't a major agreement it just basically says that they've come to terms it's a memorandum of understanding and that's about it so there really
[9:53:24]wasn't a whole lot there uh in substance although it's been speculated that there's probably a whole lot that's not in writing uh consideration that's gone to turkey not just from
[9:53:36]you know finland and sweden but also probably from other countries perhaps even the united states that uh just isn't out there on the table but uh certainly a lot of consideration now procedurally
[9:53:47]uh it's not done yet you know first off the delegates there and they may all vote to say yes that's great uh bring them in but they still have to go back to their respective parliaments
[9:53:58]and procedurally across all the nato countries every country has to agree and that means it takes a legislative decision by the country not just a uh a
[9:54:08]head of state decision to allow the allow uh sweden and finland to join so there's still there's some road work that has to be done uh usually it takes about a year
[9:54:18]i wouldn't be surprised if this one goes a lot faster though all right hal let's uh kind of rewind for a minute the g7 summit there in germany is over
[9:54:28]um and there was a lot of talk about the war in ukraine but no to me personally maybe you can opine on this no specific objectives coming out of
[9:54:39]that summit about how to make ukraine win on the battlefield there was a communique about the role and the rise of china and how to kind of tamper that and confront
[9:54:50]that what are your thoughts after the g7 well my thoughts on the g7 are they they didn't give any specifics because they don't want to tip their hand i mean there's you know
[9:55:00]look democracies do have to play to their their respective populations so they have to say something on the other hand this is this is this
[9:55:09]is war it's in its national security for all the countries involved and they don't want to tell the russians too much they don't want to give away their playbook what i will say is we're starting to see
[9:55:20]that playbook unwind uh in eastern uh ukraine right now in in the donbass region uh the ukrainians are starting to pull back a little bit and those high mars
[9:55:31]those multi multiple launch rocket systems with the extended range of about 45 50 miles are being brought into play and that may be
[9:55:42]really what the strategy is is to get these high capability high impact weapon systems uh as soon as possible into the fight and to
[9:55:53]basically take advantage of the russian lack of command control logistics and eventually wear down their fire support capability counter battery fires
[9:56:04]everything else that may be the playbook and uh so i think what they're saying is we're gonna keep this we're gonna the the the the strategy is keep as much coming as possible
[9:56:15]reaffirm the commitment to keep it coming but put some of these unique weapon systems you know we talked about the uh anti-air defense system things like that these are going to change things you know uh
[9:56:26]throughout this whole thing this enormous russian air force has not been able to achieve air super air superiority let alone air supremacy and it's going to get worse for them yeah so i think that's the
[9:56:37]strategy i want you uh to respond uh former defense secretary leon panetta was on with neil cavuto today he said i think it's important for ukraine to get
[9:56:47]back on the offensive because they've got to show the world they can push the russians back are you worried i guess about the appearance
[9:56:56]uh of ukrainians retreating of ukrainians not having the upper hand yeah you know you can only rope a dope for so long um and and there and i hate
[9:57:07]to say it is the information age they are playing to a global audience i think what they need to do is to look at some sort of big attack big breakthrough i think
[9:57:18]they're looking at something like that in the south right now the russians are responding to ukrainian force buildups the russians are unable to do anything uh of significance of south the
[9:57:29]ukrainians are making steady gains but i think we're there's a couple things everyone's watching which is the russians are not able to regenerate their forces they've taken
[9:57:40]humongous losses getting where they are severedness costs them a tremendous amount of forces
[9:57:47]they now have old t-62s and t-64s uh tanks in the fight we're talking tanks that are around in the 1960s and early 70s
[9:57:58]are now in the fight because the t-80s and and more advanced t72 tanks they're just not there they've suffered such huge attrition
[9:58:08]so we're looking at a a kind of a period coming up here within a week or two where they move in you know maybe they take luhansk oblast the uh the province
[9:58:19]maybe they secure that but the reality is they can't move much further and that's when these deep interdiction weapons are gonna make a huge difference that's when you start seeing it like they just did uh yesterday where they
[9:58:31]they took out a an ammunition dump well within the russian control within russian lines uh outside of a russian artillery range they fired harmar's uh
[9:58:43]missiles took out that ammunition dump they're going to start doing things like that take out the logistics take out the command and control take out their artillery take out their multiple launch rocket systems
[9:58:54]and you're going to run into the same pro or they're going to run the same problem they had key which is they can no longer prosecute the offense and it took a while with keeve it didn't happen overnight we see it all in compressed time now but i remember us
[9:59:06]sitting here for a long time saying totally they're just not moving and then when it happened it happened very quickly yeah and that's what they're we'll probably see in the east yeah no hal speaking about a large strike a
[9:59:18]large attack we're getting new video uh of the moment of impact when russia hit that mall uh just over the weekend we want to show our viewers the moment
[9:59:29]of impact this is just stunning tragic video to behold have a watch and there it is uh you can just see we're gonna replay it a few times in
[9:59:40]slow motion but that is that mall that was targeted ukrainian president vladimir zelinsky a couple days ago said at the time about a
[9:59:50]thousand people were inside the mall and of course we're getting casualty reports that scores were killed there and so this is the grim nature of war
[10:00:01]this is the russian playbook hal and i you and i have talked about that so often indiscriminate or discriminate targeting of some of these civilian population
[10:00:12]centers these are not strategic targets and you see it time and time again since the war began back in late february hal last word there i just want you to
[10:00:22]respond i i just want to say that uh president celestia's fight put it best he wants to have the u.n make some motion or some decision to call russia a
[10:00:33]terrorist nation yeah now there isn't any really established um benchmarks for what that means but he said basically saying that russia doesn't meet that that that term meet the definition of
[10:00:44]that term then he can't think of what other country would and when you see something like this that is just that's almost that borders i mean some would say it is genocidal but that
[10:00:55]borders on genocidal strikes i mean there is no reason to do that to except to kill ukrainians there is no acceptable reason why they would attack a mall like that now some
[10:01:06]of it may be sloppy targeting um and and and the other thing that's kind of got us all uh looking at this is why is russia wasting all these high value weapons
[10:01:16]like the ones they used on that mall for these militarily insignificant targets and uh and what if you analyze it for a
[10:01:25]bit it looks like an act of desperation use it now because it kind of comes up to what we just talked about in a couple of weeks they may run out of steam and and putin
[10:01:36]may realize that and he may be doing everything he can to try and basically negotiate some sort of ceasefire or something and make as much gain as he can because he knows pretty soon
[10:01:47]it doesn't matter that they just can't press the offensive and those weapons will make a difference so maybe he's doing things like this now just to cause the pain for ukraine to be so much that politically
[10:01:58]he can he can force them to to accept some sort of unpalatable cease-fire arrangement that's that's all i can think some you know negotiated settlement that
[10:02:10]doesn't meet anyone's objectives uh so great to have you on again hal uh with this insight uh as we continue to monitor the war in ukraine how we'll talk to you again have a good night
[10:02:21]okay you too andrew right now we do want to show you just a bit of nato secretary general jens stoltenberg announce these moves by finland and sweden today really kind of
[10:02:32]clearing their way their application to join the defensive alliance of nato turkey lifting its opposition today here's the nato secretary general from earlier in
[10:02:42]madrid it turns on defense inviting finland and
[10:02:55]sweden new strategic concept support for ukraine and many other decisions ntv secretary general um two short questions first
[10:03:07]how binding is this memorandum for finland and sweden bearing in mind that turkey was very worried that the day these two countries join nato they will
[10:03:17]resume their behavior towards ankara and the second question is you were very much involved and you were a honest broker between ankara's stockholm and helsinki and president erdogan trust you
[10:03:28]very well because you know each other for 25 years there was such a tension how come this street country do you think that this true country after their membership could be hugs and kisses
[10:03:39]thank you well i strongly believe that uh when we have a common interest in fighting terrorism then we can agree and the reality is that of course turkey
[10:03:50]is very concerned about terrorism no other ally has suffered more attacks from terrorist organizations than turkey and uh finland sweden the european union nato allies um regard pkk acetylis
[10:04:02]organization and therefore to fight that organization and also individuals that are responsible for terrorist organization terrorist attacks
[10:04:12]against turkey that's actually an obvious responsibility for all nato allies because terrorism is something we have to fight in all its forms and
[10:04:23]manifestations and the joint memorandum that is agreed now reflects that reality uh i'm glad that we were able to
[10:04:34]convene the leaders and then based on the excellent work on our or by our officials over many weeks uh the leaders were able then to
[10:04:45]crack a solution to find the final agreement today here in madrid and i'm confident absolutely that both turkey but also of course finland and
[10:04:56]sweden will stand by the commitments in this binding in this in this memorandum of understanding okay who was plotted and
[10:05:09]when do you expect that finland and sweden will become full members of the alliance and what will the role of these new members be when nato will enhance its defense of the eastern flank
[10:05:20]so the last question uh what will uh the role of the these new members sweden and finland be when nato will enhance its defense of the eastern flank the finland the sweden joining nato it's important
[10:05:31]for finland sweden but it's also important for nato and particularly the baltic countries because if you just look at the map you understand that it will change the whole security situation in the baltic region
[10:05:42]with finland and sweden baltic countries close to the baltic countries estonia lithuania and latvia it will really strengthen our presence in that part of the world or in europe
[10:05:54]and finland sweden also brings to nato advanced well-developed well-equipped forces fifth generation aircraft
[10:06:04]advanced weapon systems technology and stable strong political institutions so this will reinforce strength nato and also
[10:06:16]strengthen finland and and sweden so for the nordic region for the baltic region this is a particular importance but this is important for the whole alliance um so this is what finn and sweden will
[10:06:28]bring to us and they will be part of that adaptation uh the reinforcement of collective defense that will be agreed tomorrow by nato leaders the first question
[10:06:39]when well done first of all what has happened now is perhaps the quickest ever uh process so far uh the fact that we just weeks after they applied for membership can invite
[10:06:51]them uh so it's harder to imagine any quicker process so far and that's a good thing because we face a very critical security situation in europe and it also sends a very clear
[10:07:03]message to president putin that nato's store is open you have to remember that in december last year president putin put forward so-called security treaties to be signed with nato and one of the
[10:07:14]most important messages from pastor putin there was that he was against any further nato enlargement he wanted less nato now president putin is getting more
[10:07:25]nato on his borders so what he gets is the opposite of what he actually demanded and that was to nato to close its source we are we are
[10:07:35]demonstrating nato stores are open nato store is open then when well that is for 30 parliaments to design i know that many
[10:07:46]parliaments have always started the process so i think there is a strong will among allies to ratify as soon as possible but i cannot promise anything on behalf of 30 parliaments
[10:07:57]okay sky um debra haynes sky news um can you just say clearly what message do you want
[10:08:06]this decision to send to vladimir putin what message is nato sending not just from finland and sweden decision but from the summit and just
[10:08:15]secondly how worried are you that okay so reporters questioning nato secretary general yen stoltenberg there
[10:08:27]about the news that we got today regarding finland and sweden turkey dropping its opposition for them to apply and join the defensive block and
[10:08:38]so that is on its way now it has been kick-started after turkey dropped its opposition of course finland shares a 900-mile long border with russia russia
[10:08:49]not too happy about this yet two more countries about to join uh the nato alliance and we'll bring that to you here when it is official remember many of the nato countries all have to
[10:09:00]unanimously agree on it and it has to go back to their respective governments their legislative bodies to vote on it as well so uh hope you enjoyed that conversation with hal kempfer the latest
[10:09:12]on the war in ukraine you saw that stunning video of the moment of impact of the russian targeting shelling that mall there uh with a thousand people inside scores
[10:09:21]dead as the war rages on i'm andrew kraft we're going to take a quick two minute commercial break though when we come back you've probably been following this story alongside us 51
[10:09:32]migrants found dead of heat exhaustion in that 18-wheeler tractor trailer just yesterday in san antonio vigils being held there
[10:09:42]in texas today remembering their lives they just wanted a better life here in the united states and also the investigation going forward who was arrested in this and how could something
[10:09:53]like this have happened we'll have more on that in two minutes [Music]
[10:11:20][Music] welcome back here to live now from fox
[10:12:00]on this tuesday night i'm andrew kraft well we brought you the tragic story late yesterday in san antonio of scores of undocumented migrants found dead in
[10:12:11]the back of that 18-wheeler tractor-trailer and unfortunately in the last 24 hours the death toll now up to 51 and the community there in texas
[10:12:22]reacting vigils held today joining me now to discuss this even further fox 26 houston reporter tiffany justice tiffany who have you spoken to today and how is
[10:12:32]the community holding up we have spoken to a lot of officials today community organizations as well you mentioned andrew a vigil that was
[10:12:43]held tonight we did cover that just remembering the 51 people who lost their lives posters were created and they do say once those names are released they plan on holding another
[10:12:54]vigil as this investigation continues today i have a question for the government how many more this is
[10:13:05]a result of failed policies by both the democratic and the republican party and by failed promises from current and past
[10:13:16]administrations that in the sense of nobody has had the guts to fix our broken immigration system tuesday a vigil was held to mourn the loss of life
[10:13:27]the death toll rising to 51 migrants after a tractor-trailer is found abandoned in san antonio monday initially 46 people were found dead five more were taken to a hospital where they
[10:13:38]later died among them people who only had a hope to come here if this was because of open borders 50 plus people
[10:13:49]would not have chosen to get into the back of an 18 wheeler to face death under 150 plus degree circumstances of those who died authorities say 22 were
[10:14:01]from mexico seven guatemala and two from honduras the rest are still being identified the director field saying the likelihood that houston was a stop or the final destination is high in past
[10:14:12]incidents he says there were families waiting here in houston for loved ones she caught us in tears and said it happened again marta olvera was instrumental in helping to catch who
[10:14:24]committed the crime in victoria texas in 2003 to justice how many more how many more 19 years ago may 14
[10:14:35]we have 19 immigrants 18 in a toilet and one in the hospital today yesterday sorry there was 46 and a trailer
[10:14:46]five more in the hospital how many more what are they waiting for according to homeland security the death count is the highest ever from a smuggling incident
[10:14:55]in the u.s now the driver of that truck and two other people were arrested authorities are continuing to identify those 51
[10:15:06]people but as the investigation continues a lot of people have further questions also questioning border patrol reporting live back to you andrew you know tiffany still like you were
[10:15:18]saying so many questions remain in this you know how long were the migrants uh in the back of that 18-wheeler tractor trailer we know most
[10:15:28]of them died from heat exhaustion the death toll is just staggering and then of course uh you know why weren't authorities really kind of clued in to
[10:15:37]this specific smuggling incident uh and can you offer anything on that what are law enforcement saying at this point in time now 24 hours removed right law enforcement they're not saying
[10:15:50]much at this point other than that the investigation continues and that they're looking into those questions andrew just a tragic situation all around tiffany justice we appreciate your
[10:16:01]reporting and we'll talk to you again okay right now we want to go out to some of the latest updates from organizations
[10:16:12]from charities in south texas who were talking about this today and how they are comforting the survivors as well let's listen in so that is something to smile about
[10:16:27]today such a sad day the other side of serving the surviving victims here at uhs is sadly the amazing and difficult work that the bear county
[10:16:36]medical examiner staff are tasked to do which is who have died our medical examiner's office has carried a heavy load over the last few
[10:16:48]weeks from the uvalde victims and now today we have reached out to neighboring counties for assistance from their
[10:16:59]medical examiner's offices also as of one o'clock very sad to report that we um the
[10:17:08]medical examiner's also has 51 bodies 12 women they have potentially id 34 of them i'm not only angry
[10:17:23]about what occurred yesterday but my heart also mourns for the families who have lost their loved ones the governor of the great state of texas
[10:17:33]has once again politicized this horrific tragedy by taking to twitter and placing the blame on others for his failures
[10:17:44]while bodies were still being removed and others being taken to local hospitals he chose to be heartless and point the finger
[10:17:53]shame on our governor his words were also a complete contradiction to state that this tragedy was due to open border policies if there was such a policy of open
[10:18:05]borders we wouldn't have had over 50 human lives trying to enter this country the way they did we wouldn't be mourning the deaths of so
[10:18:15]many people who were simply seeking a better life i can't imagine being in another country and waiting to get a call from a loved
[10:18:25]one who's been traveling for weeks or months to hear if they've arrived at their destination safely and then to see the news of this tragedy here in bexar county instead
[10:18:37]we are not certain of all the countries where the victims are from but i have spoken with the walaman and council of canada and they are working to get information from the hospitals for their citizens
[10:18:48]we're also working with the consulates of mexico honduras and el salvador if you have a family member that you fear could be one of the victims you can
[10:18:59]call the watermelon consulate at 956 956-800-7351 well thank you
[10:19:51]the inscription on our statue of liberty says give me your time your poor and your huddle masses yearning to
[10:20:03]breathe free and our nation was built on the backs of poor immigrants and made us a great nation today
[10:20:13]today we mourn for those 51 immigrants who came to us to breathe that fresh air but instead found death
[10:20:25]in the state of texas suffering in a van or trailer from heat exhaustion it's a terrible way for us to treat
[10:20:36]immigrants the state of texas has done just about everything wrong that i can think of we participate in building a wall which
[10:20:47]does nothing to protect our border they have spent billions of our taxpayers dollars state taxpayers dollars on paying for the texas national guard at the border
[10:20:58]and they throw innocent people those that just lost their lives just like them they throw them and converted prisons down by the border
[10:21:09]we dehumanize them we make them people think that there's something less than us and they are not less than us
[10:21:19]instead of spending texas dollars on a failed body security program we should instead be using those funds to help immigrants
[10:21:31]spend those funds to catch the smugglers and the crooks that live right here in texas that did what they did today state should be spending
[10:21:41]dollars helping the immigration courts to help them move those cases along so they can decide their state here their status here and they should be participating with
[10:21:51]the mexican border states and providing funding for them so that they can provide shelter and food for the immigrants that are coming through mexico and most of all
[10:22:03]our state leaders should be supporting immigration reform and tell the congress it acts a comprehensive immigration reform that's
[10:22:13]fair to people it gives the people for the great opportunity they're looking for we're going to continue to see this horrible horrible policy instituted by the state of texas and
[10:22:23]complemented by the federal government we mourn for them i'm so so pleased what university hospital has done george hernandez and
[10:22:32]his team sutherland springs massacre uvalde mass shooting of innocent 19 children and two teachers and now
[10:22:44]51 people dying here in bexar county as they come across the water our medical examiner is rebecca stated has received
[10:22:55]all the bodies from uvalde and now she's facing this tremendous workload from tremendous i can't imagine how they go through that in the job that they do
[10:23:06]i also want to thank the bear county emergency services for being out there on site and for their county sheriff javier salazar for his attention to the
[10:23:16]problem we've got out there so we should mourn we should not forget but we should try to correct the horrible mistakes that state's making in
[10:23:27]our nation's making information officer so we want to make
[10:23:42]sure that we get everybody in so if you have some questions we want to make sure that you understand we cannot talk about anything that has to do with the investigation the investigation is handled by
[10:23:53]the department of homeland security and we most certainly want to make sure that they they can talk about what they need to talk about but if you have any questions with respect to the medical examiner's
[10:24:05]office or what the county does then that would be a good time yes sir again one more time there are currently 51 bodies
[10:24:19]in the custody of the medical examiner there are 39 of them are men 12 of them are women children
[10:24:29]so that potentially some of them are under the age of 18 but we have to ask you to understand that
[10:24:40]what we have in materials there to try and identify the individuals cannot be at this time perfectly matched to the individual right
[10:24:51]so that is what the medical examiner is trying to do hence uh my saying these are potentially people under 18.
[10:25:03]but not i would say in the t in the teenage age range not younger i'm sorry i don't have a number i don't have
[10:25:13]enough you can earn their own related debts no i cannot perform that is what so the medical examiner in the medical examiner's office
[10:25:23]their job is to determine the cause and the manner of death and these investigations and to identify the victims these this work will
[10:25:34]take days if not longer because you may imagine there's 51 victims and we want to be very diligent in this work
[10:25:44]and respectful to them with univision i've been talking to family members especially guatemala they're not getting any response from the consulate and a
[10:25:56]lot of them think that their family members are here in the hospital they speak their native language and they're only speaking to us they're desperate they don't know what to do what are we
[10:26:05]going to do with all these families well i've been in communication with the walaman and consulate they've actually been very gracious um so i'll answer in english since your
[10:26:19]question was english and then i'll go to spanish so i've been in contact with the guadalajara they've been very gracious i gave out the number you can let me know if i need to get that out at the end they are also working with the hospitals
[10:26:31]to get information they are also limited because of hipaa rules so they are working with that giant um
[10:27:12]what um
[10:28:15][Music] okay so um officials they're talking in spanish we're going to move away from this right now this story just keeps getting worse
[10:28:26]it's just such a tragic situation 51 migrants found dead inside that 18 wheeler tractor trailer in san antonio
[10:28:37]it was a refrigerated truck it was a human smuggling operation and we learned that according to congressman henry cuellar
[10:28:47]who represents this district he said the driver of the truck and two other people were arrested he also said the truck passed through a border patrol
[10:28:55]checkpoint northeast of laredo on i-35 and he didn't know if migrants were inside the truck when it cleared that checkpoint and the bodies were
[10:29:06]discovered yesterday afternoon on the outskirts of san antonio when a city worker heard a cry for help from the truck parked on that lonely back road that
[10:29:16]you're seeing there and then found the gruesome scene inside so if we get any more updates we know dhs is investigating and of course these were people who just
[10:29:28]wanted a better life for themselves and their families they probably paid a hefty penny to get smuggled and now 51 of them are dead because of it uh in the meantime we do want to move
[10:29:39]on to some of these other stories live now look overhead in phoenix arizona this is a procession for that fallen officer that yavapai county sheriff's
[10:29:49]office deputy who was shot earlier today and they are going to maricopa county office of the medical examiner you can see there are a number of
[10:30:01]departments participating in the procession like phoenix police and phoenix fire after that deputy was shot and killed today during a barricade situation that
[10:30:12]suspect though now in custody and of course it's always so dangerous for law enforcement really anywhere in the country they put their lives on the line they put
[10:30:24]themselves in harm's way and you can see there this very very long procession of police and fire vehicles paying their respects to one of their fallen comrades
[10:30:36]today we'll be back in two minutes [Music]
[10:32:01][Music] [Music]
[10:32:44]all right welcome back here to live now from fox lee zeldin just wrapped up speaking there to his crowd of supporters as he has clinched the republican nomination for
[10:32:56]governor there in the state of new york we want to play out some of his remarks for you we had promised them we didn't get to them live unfortunately we were in some other stories at the time but
[10:33:07]this is just uh as we continue to follow these races from all across the country these primary races uh today let's play out some of these remarks from lee zeldin he will
[10:33:18]now face democratic incumbent governor kathy hokel in november for the general election big victory and head on to november
[10:33:33]because we have things to do and the first is to make sure that everyone in new york state knows that kathy hulkel
[10:33:42]is going to be fired and next george santos and i are going to head to congress we are going to flip it from
[10:33:53]blue to red [Applause] and we are going to arrive in the capitol and we are going to tell nancy pelosi hi
[10:34:02]we're from nassau county joe cairo sent us you are fired all right one of those congressional
[10:34:16]candidates in new york uh and so like i said we we do want to hear from lee zeldin himself there were a bunch of speakers before he got there uh let's listen in to zeldin as he accepted
[10:34:28]victory [Music]
[10:34:46][Music] are we ready to fire kathy hokel this
[10:34:58]this november in the state of new york one party rule will end kathy hokel will get fired we will restore balance and common sense to
[10:35:08]albany again [Applause] out there across this great state
[10:35:19]we have people of all walks of life in all counties in all regions of new york new yorkers hitting their breaking point they're deciding whether or not to stay
[10:35:31]here or head to other places more than any other state in the entire country right now we're seeing with this population loss one party rule
[10:35:42]super majority is in the assembly incentive outsized power of people who self-describe as socialists why are new yorkers hitting this
[10:35:52]breaking point they don't feel safe on our streets and on subways and in their homes and in their places of employment
[10:36:01]they feel like life in new york is unaffordable that their money will go further somewhere else that in order to live the american dream it doesn't align
[10:36:11]with what they always wanted to be the new york dream for all of us who are still here calling the empire state home we aspire for a new york that is
[10:36:22]restored to glory and we can't do it alone we preserve protect and treasure freedom
[10:36:33]we believe that government should not be trying to rule our lives but that the people should feel like they're in charge of their government
[10:36:42][Music] see kathy hulkel she's uh she's in over
[10:36:54]her head she's a walking identity crisis to be honest she's been pandering to a far left in this state she was concerned about her
[10:37:05]primary today and because of that when the tax and spend liberals controlling albany when the pro-criminal liberals controlling albany were insisting on
[10:37:16]policies that would take our state in the wrong direction kathy hulkel didn't stand up and lead them instead she got led by the far left she willingly got rolled by them and out
[10:37:27]there right now across this state are republicans and conservatives and independents and disenfranchised democrats who all care about the future of the state they're thinking about
[10:37:37]their breaking point in all corners of new york understanding the stakes for us we believe that public service is about
[10:37:48]serving the public [Applause] kathy hokel
[10:37:58]kathy hopeful has been acting as if the public is there to serve her unilaterally extending her coveted emergency powers without seeking
[10:38:09]approval from the state legislature when we were calling for a repeal a major overhaul the cashless
[10:38:19]bail even new york city mayor eric adams calling for a major overhaul to cashless bail kathy hokel said she needed to see more data as as we were critical about the
[10:38:31]manhattan district attorney alvin bragg kathy hokel said that we should cut him some slack that he just got there and that he was doing his job
[10:38:42]while we believe that there is an opportunity in this state to unleash the prosperity of reversing the state's ban on the safe extraction of natural gas
[10:38:52]one party democratic rule looks to go in the opposite direction we have a plan to enact the largest tax
[10:39:04]cut in the history of the state we want all new yorkers to be able to stay to live here to thrive and not have to leave right now you look at other states where you feel like your money will go
[10:39:15]further you will feel safer you will live life freer our campaign is a campaign to try to convince you to stay to make sure that your family who has left will come back they want to come
[10:39:27]visit they should feel safe when they do so [Applause]
[10:39:37]right now right now in flushing queens is a a loyal liberal democrat asian-american parent who
[10:39:49]is concerned about one of their own getting pushed in front of an oncoming subway car and being killed stabbed to death in their apartment in lower manhattan
[10:40:00]beaten to death on the streets because of anti-asian hate in brooklyn there's a young jewish boy who
[10:40:11]may be walking to their yeshiva or leaving prayer who may become the next victim of a violent anti-semitic attack
[10:40:22]i hear about the sikh community telling me stories about how one of their own is attacked with raw violent hate
[10:40:33]for that asian-american mom and dad who prioritizes their son and daughter's education above all else they recognize that we should be challenging our students to go as far as
[10:40:44]possible in recognizing what success and hard work is there's that young hispanic family in the city and the young black family in the city stuck
[10:40:55]in multi-generational poverty their kids stuck in poor performing public schools they should have access to a quality
[10:41:02]education just like everybody else [Applause]
[10:41:17]as our state's next lieutenant governor says this isn't just a red wave this is a this is a common sense wave
[10:41:28]it's a common sense wave that reaches out to everybody across this state in all counties in all regions we're reaching out to all of you to work
[10:41:38]with us to save new york this is a rescue mission to save our state and losing is not an option [Applause]
[10:42:05]there's only one option on november 8th and that is to win this race to fire kathy hofer to end one party rule for for kathy hulkel's first big
[10:42:22]decision she had to pick a lieutenant governor she she ended up picking not just a champion of the defund the police
[10:42:33]movement she picked the champion of the defunded police movement you know i was doing a radio interview uh with albany radio and allison i have
[10:42:44]to admit i was a little upset about something the host tells me that they asked what your favorite cereal was yes and it was is it true it's
[10:42:53]frankenberries frankenberries now for us in our vetting process i will tell you that this was the only thing
[10:43:03]that slipped through the cracks for kathy hokel she forgot to ask about the federal
[10:43:13]investigation that was already news kathy hokel picks somebody who is
[10:43:25]spending his time running from the law and i proudly ask somebody who has dedicated her life to enforcing the law our state's next lieutenant governor
[10:43:37]alison esposito [Music] [Applause] now
[10:43:51][Applause] [Music] the first thing that we plan on doing
[10:44:02]after we take the oath i saw this provision in the new york state constitution it says that the governor can fire a district attorney if they refuse to
[10:44:14]enforce the law [Applause] in january in january right after i take that oath
[10:44:26]the first thing that i am going to do is to turn to the manhattan district attorney alvin bragg and tell him he's fired [Applause] [Music]
[10:44:36][Applause] no kathy hulkel we aren't going to cut him any slack he isn't doing his job we
[10:44:46]have a duty to unapologetically back our great selfless dedicated men and women who would give their lives in defense of family and friends and strangers
[10:44:57][Applause] we have to repeal cashless spell
[10:45:05][Applause] we have to repeal the halt act that has resulted in our correctional officers
[10:45:15]being attacked we must repeal less is more that is putting people back out on the street who should stay behind bars [Music]
[10:45:26][Applause] i think it's important that every coven
[10:45:34]mandate in the state of new york ends [Music] people are smart enough to make their
[10:45:48]own decisions with information of what's best for them in their lives i'm looking at a room filled with proud new yorkers these are constituents of
[10:46:00]the governor these are voters these are residents i don't look at any one of you as my apostle if you want to get the covet vaccine get
[10:46:12]the covert vaccine if you don't want to get the shot don't get the shot but don't do it because i'm calling on you to be my apostle [Applause]
[10:46:22][Music] kathy hopeful was giving a speech in front of the new york state association of counties and during this speech she referred to
[10:46:33]herself as the mother of all 62 counties as you all well know
[10:46:44]as you all will know while i'm running for governor of the state of new york my feet are firmly planted well aware that even in my own house
[10:46:55]i am the fourth highest ranking person and i'm lucky i'm the fourth out of four i would like to say thank you so much
[10:47:08]for my to my wife diana our daughters mikhail and ariana for their support for their love but i'll tell you what for diana
[10:47:22]for diana it's very clear to her that what she really wants is for me to be able to thank all of you the volunteers who hit the streets who
[10:47:33]worked hard in this primary campaign i thank you all for all of your support [Applause]
[10:47:46]before i came out here before i came out here i received a great phone call from two of my
[10:47:57]spirited passionate opponents in this race i want to first off thank my friend andrew giuliani for running a
[10:48:07]great campaign andrew has a bright future in new york
[10:48:17]state politics we want him to be involved we want him involved in his campaign i would like to also thank
[10:48:34]rob astarino who called me as well thank you to rob for running a great spirited campaign uh while while i have not yet received a
[10:48:49]call from uh from my other opponent i will i'd like to say thank you to all of my opponents that includes uh harry wilson thank you for for running
[10:49:00]and it is uh it is important that as we move forward that we all move forward united focused on the main event
[10:49:11]defeating kathy hokel and ending one party rule [Applause] one goal one team
[10:49:21]top down bottom up and i'm sorry i'm sorry senator schumer if you're tuning in we're not going to turn you from senate
[10:49:33]majority leader to senate minority leader and by the way i don't want to disappoint anyone in here you say oh man i thought we were going to turn him into a minority leader no we are going to turn senate majority leader
[10:49:44]chuck schumer into former senator chuck schumer with our next senator joe pinion [Applause] [Music]
[10:49:53][Applause]
[10:50:07]listen we're up here as as one team top down and bottom up and uh you know if the attorney general's tuning in you're not gonna
[10:50:17]like this part either because we have a great talented exceptional candidate for attorney general who will be new york state's next attorney general he will do
[10:50:29]a great job big round of applause for michael henry michael henry will never politicize that
[10:50:46]office he is someone who views it as an office that belongs to the people to do the people's work and not having a partisan agenda now i hear about this this next guy who's
[10:50:58]really not happy if he's tuning in he probably tuned turned it off here a couple seconds ago when we just gave the shout out to a couple of other people on the stage and i hear that uh they said
[10:51:08]tom dinapoli is a nice guy if you're running to be new york state comptroller we're not looking for a nice guy by the way that's you know
[10:51:17]it's good to be a to be a nice guy but we're looking for someone who is going to be a fiscal watchdog a pitbull somebody who's experienced who's
[10:51:27]dedicated who's a fresh face who's running for office and all in our state's next state comptroller paul rodriguez
[10:51:36][Applause] i ask all of you out there to get
[10:51:48]involved in your races for the house and for the state senate and the state assembly we are going to grow the republican delegation in new york and it
[10:51:58]starts right here where we are today with your next congressman anthony de esposito [Applause] and he's going to have a partner
[10:52:14]and his partners here as well another new congressman coming to a place right here near you george santos [Applause]
[10:52:35]ladies and gentlemen please do not send me to albany with a super majority assembly and senate we will break that super majority we'll do it right here in
[10:52:46]nassau county as i look at my friend and former colleague who's here we got elected together in 2010 for him and the other candidates here in nassau county to jack martens and the rest of the team
[10:52:57]we are going to paint nassau all red and all across this state all across this state
[10:53:10]you have great candidates running for the united states house you have great candidates running for new york state senate new york state assembly and these races matter
[10:53:20]you want to feel like you have a voice and representation in our state capital you want to end three persons in a room you want balance not just politically
[10:53:31]but geographically as well all regions of the state will have that seat at the table but you have to get involved in all of your races up and down the ballot what you're looking at
[10:53:43]right here is one team and one team that's focused on one thing and one thing only and that's winning to save our state and country [Applause]
[10:54:10]we have an amazing partner in the new york state conservative party and i thank chairman jerry casar and all of his great leaders
[10:54:20]the new york state conservative party has been absolutely fantastic every step of the way and i look forward to running on the conservative party line this november i would like to thank
[10:54:34]the chairman of the new york state republican committee nick langworthy who's here thank you nick for your leadership for your vision
[10:54:46]in recruiting an exceptional statewide ticket our host here on long island
[10:54:56]he is a an amazing county chairman he is someone who showed us on november 2nd
[10:55:05]2021 in painting nassau county from blue to red he is a great leader he is someone who turned out the vote here in nassau county again and i thank him for
[10:55:17]everything he is an amazing county chairman give it up for joe cairo [Applause] [Music]
[10:55:26][Applause]
[10:55:42]suffolk and nassau is about to have an important role okay so we've been listening into
[10:56:09]the victorious republican candidate now lee zeldin who'll face off against kathy hokel the democrat come november to become the next governor of new york
[10:56:19]so a lot of these primary races we're getting results in uh that was one we weren't able to get to live wanted to show you lee zeldin's remarks there that's uh one of these key races to
[10:56:31]watch come november i'm andrew craft we are coming up at the nine o'clock hour here on the west coast we have a lot more stories left to get to including many of the highlights from today's
[10:56:41]january 6th capitol hearing the sixth hearing it was really surprisingly called just yesterday remember this they said that they were going to call this hearing they originally had said they
[10:56:52]were going to be on a two-week pause and then they said nope scratch that we're holding one today and the star witness of course was former aide to chief of staff mark
[10:57:03]meadows cassidy hutchinson some are saying it is the most explosive powerful testimony the committee has held to date so we'll have highlights of that after
[10:57:14]the break [Music]
[10:58:38][Music] [Music]
[11:00:01]and welcome back here to live now from fox on this tuesday night that is a live now look in the bay area at san francisco at the moment our next story is
[11:00:11]set in california a little further south though in los angeles where we are tracking this really terrible story where an l.a police officer he was killed by his
[11:00:22]colleagues in a training exercise meant to simulate a mob that's according to that fallen officer's mother who has now filed a wrongful death claim
[11:00:33]against the city and against the police force the officer is 32 year old houston tipping and he was killed
[11:00:43]in the training in late may and so we're going to hear from the attorney who is representing the mother at the moment
[11:00:52]he held a press conference just yesterday and then we're going to speak to our reporter in los angeles
[11:01:02]about this really horrible story tipping's mother the officer's mother shirley huffman has not yet filed a lawsuit to accompany the wrongful death claim
[11:01:13]and we're also hearing new reaction as well from la police chief michael moore first though out to that mother's attorney who has hired this attorney
[11:01:24]in the wake of her son's death in this mob training exercise put on by la police bradley gage of goldberg and gage
[11:01:38]we're here because of the tragic death of lapd officer houston tipping i want to start by thanking the lapd for
[11:01:49]the funeral service for the family that was touching and much appreciated i also want to thank the efforts of those
[11:01:58]police officers who tried their best to resuscitate houston and to save his life unfortunately those efforts
[11:02:09]are really not enough considering what took place beforehand here's what we believe has happened first normally this training would have been
[11:02:19]done outside instead it was done inside there are certain safety precautions that were available as we understand it outside and those were not
[11:02:30]available indoors additionally with respect to the training itself the rules require
[11:02:40]that the lapd had a certified training instructor with them at all times as we understand it there was no training instructor that was certified
[11:02:51]there at all the problem with not having an instructor is it can allow for all kinds of catastrophe and injuries as occurred in this case
[11:03:03]you want to have a certified instructor to make sure that when people are engaged in the scenario that they don't go overboard and batter and
[11:03:13]destroy or injure the life of one of the officers as tragically occurred here another item that was missing we understand our proper safety max and
[11:03:25]other safety equipment when you're having any kind of a grappling type of situation a tackling situation or other kinds of violent simulations
[11:03:36]you want to protect the people involved that means all kinds of safety gear head gear padding and other protection
[11:03:46]it's pretty obvious that it was not here the reason we know that is that officer tipping had an injury to one side of his head that required staples
[11:03:56]he had an injury to the other side of his head that involved swelling of the brain which contributed to his death eventually the lapd also was supposed to have a
[11:04:08]defibrillator available with people that knew how to use it as we understand it they did not even know where the defibrillator was
[11:04:17]let alone how to properly implement it what that equipment does is it allows the heart to keep beating in this case the heart stopped because
[11:04:29]of the serious injuries that houston suffered with once the heart stopped oxygen stops going to the brain which added to the brain damage that he
[11:04:39]suffered from so we had a scenario where the safety equipment was missing the instructors were missing
[11:04:49]and tragedy struck then we get to the injuries themselves those injuries were catastrophic and they were all over the body
[11:04:59]two injuries to the head as i noted stitches required for one side and swelling to the brain on the other the cervical spine was broken at a
[11:05:09]minimum at c2 c3 c3 c4 and c4 c5 possibly also at the vertebra between c5 and c6
[11:05:21]those vertebrae are the ones that help you to breathe they're the ones that give you a gag reflex they're the ones that allow you to walk and to move the injuries that houston suffered were
[11:05:32]so severe that he was paralyzed he became a quadriplegic immediately because of the beatings that he went through not only was his head in his neck
[11:05:44]injured but also his liver was so badly damaged they did not even know if it would be suitable for him to be a liver donor he also had contusions on the ribs which
[11:05:55]may have been from a broken rib also caused from this beating so when you look at all these different injuries one has to wonder what happened
[11:06:07]why was it allowed to happen and how can we help to remedy the situation so in this case we have a training scenario
[11:06:19]that we understand is to help the lapd learn how to handle protesters it's very timely with the demise of roe versus wade we have
[11:06:28]protests going on all over the country we want the officers to be properly and well trained but if the officers in their training
[11:06:38]inflict such serious pain and injury that their own dies from it what does that say for the safety of
[11:06:48]individuals who engage in their first amendment rights and peaceful protest against the horrible decision the supreme court just issued
[11:07:00]so we have that concern the family itself has a lot of questions and a lot of items that it would like to see remedied
[11:07:10]how could this happen why did it happen where was the safety equipment none of those questions had been answered and it's been about a month the
[11:07:22]lapd says that it has engaged in an investigation where is it what did they find
[11:07:31]the lapd says that there is a videotape of the event we have requested it where is it what does it show and why
[11:07:41]is the lapd unwilling to share the information going back to ronnie king in the code of silence in the issues of circling the wagons
[11:07:53]this is a familiar theme that has happened all too often and all too tragically at the police department when you have a situation where the
[11:08:03]police want to hide and cover up stuff that is a code of silence and that creates all kinds of other dangers this is a case about protecting a police
[11:08:14]officer and the family wants to bring the suit in order to help to protect other officers so that no other mother has to bury her son or her
[11:08:26]daughter so that no other father has to have the pain of the loss of their child these are horrible things
[11:08:35]but the consequences of this go beyond one innocent police officer who gave his life protecting and serving us
[11:08:46]it goes beyond all the other lapd officers that we want to see protected it goes to all of us it goes to protecting the community
[11:08:57]when the police department makes an error as they clearly did that error needs to be remedy there should be transparency and the reason why we need to do this is
[11:09:09]so that other folks out in our communities also are not armed and injured thank you what do you know about how the officer
[11:09:19]was actually hurt did he fall was he hit we have been told a variety of reasons but we cannot confirm any of them i have
[11:09:29]been told he was tackled but a tackle is not going to break three vertebra injure both sides of the head the rib
[11:09:39]and the liver all at one time it's just impossible there's too many injuries we've been told it was grappling or a type of wrestling
[11:09:48]but wrestling is not going to cause leading to the head requiring stitches and liver and all those items because it's wrestling it's not punching and these are
[11:09:59]signs of kicking punching using a baton or otherwise beating a person is it possible that he fell into something while they were doing one of those other things
[11:10:11]anything is possible i asked this because you mentioned that this was happening in a place that was not typically used for training right and that's an excellent question
[11:10:21]did they have a situation where they did not create space to do this where there weren't items there that's a possibility that's why you need
[11:10:32]a trained instructor but even in that situation it seems hard to imagine someone is going to have an injury to this side of the head this side of the head
[11:10:43]the liver which is in the back the rib on the other side and three vertebra at least and maybe four it's just so many injuries in so many places
[11:10:53]it had to be more than just one shot and do you have any idea of why the training was happening on this particular day because led is a huge unit of people that just
[11:11:05]be training and it would seem odd that they would do any training without one of those people there like was there a rush was there time pressure i don't know if there was a rush or time
[11:11:17]pressure we've dealt with protesters for all kinds of events throughout history and the last couple of years and certainly seen a lot of protests for a lot of
[11:11:28]reasons think of george floyd think now of roe versus wade all kinds of events but this is not new it's just current so they should be well trained
[11:11:39]and this is part of the problem plus as i understand it houston was not the first person that was injured in this training exercise we understand there was also a female officer
[11:11:50]that had been injured previously but i don't have any further details yet same question same same day same training as i understand it so do you know she was hospitalized i do not believe she was
[11:12:02]hospitalized how far along was the houston's into his training and how long was the training i know that he had been in this training for a long period of time i've been told
[11:12:13]there were about 12 different individuals being trained and the 10 of them had already gone through training but i can't verify that you don't know how far away from
[11:12:24]his training he had reached i think we were very close to the end of training you mentioned the there was video but you haven't received
[11:12:37]it i received any of the pictures or anything like that to give you any kind of description of where this actually took place i know that it took place in the police academy
[11:12:48]that i do know and i know that it took place indoors as opposed to outdoors as far as getting the videos we have requested that and the city has not produced that to us yet
[11:13:00]i've shot a lot of training videos with state police sheriff indoors padding is everywhere patent is everywhere you look into if that's not
[11:13:11]the case in this situation i have been told that the padding was not everywhere and that's one of the problems you're supposed to have padding everywhere i totally agree with you but they did not have training they did
[11:13:23]not have the trainers and they did not have the padding and do you know any reason why this training particular training was taking place indoors or if it could have been
[11:13:34]initiations or if it was actual training i mean i guess you're still working to get to the bottom of it because you have any idea of that as i understand it they were doing something else outside so
[11:13:45]they moved the training indoors as far as initiation i'm not aware of that houston tipping was about to have his fifth year on the department he was a
[11:13:55]bicycle officer he was not in any of the types of police gangs that we've heard about so i don't see that at least this point
[11:14:04]as being a situation but anything is possible and was he training to move into another department outside the bicycles
[11:14:15]no i think he enjoyed being a bicycle officer it's a wonderful job it gives you the opportunity to be closer to the community it's a little
[11:14:26]slower way of traveling so you get to meet with the public more and to help them and that was important to houston he got into law enforcement because
[11:14:37]he wanted to help people he became a police officer later in life than most of the officers he was 32 years old when he died and was
[11:14:48]only on for five years so he started at age 27 most of the recruits are closer to 20 21 that range now they all will have to be over 21 i think with the new
[11:14:58]laws but before you had younger officers still and he got into it after going to a firefighter a friend of his graduated
[11:15:10]from the fire department and he decided that he wanted to be a police officer after that he told his family and i want to help protect the community i asked him gee
[11:15:21]you want to be a firefighter he goes no i want to be a police officer so that was the way that he chose to try to protect and serve
[11:15:31]the public two questions um first question and i don't i don't know if you're aware of the situation that happened between uh the actress from jody sweden from full
[11:15:42]house uh she was in protest and there was an incident where she allegedly was stuck behind police lines as they were trying to clear the freeway and she was pulled
[11:15:52]and pushed by a by a field supervisor lapd any correlation that you folks are looking at or anything like that i saw
[11:16:03]that on the news last night the video of it it did strike me that here you have a problem with training
[11:16:12]where an lapd officer was killed and less than a month later you have a video that certainly raises eyebrows
[11:16:22]and questions as to what happened and whether or not it was appropriate obviously the police want to protect
[11:16:32]drivers on the freeway and protesters trying to go onto a freeway and they have to use appropriate means to protect everyone from harm and not to
[11:16:43]create a situation that's dangerous on the other hand did they have to throw her onto the ground do they inflict injuries was there a better way of
[11:16:54]dealing with the situation we don't know at least i don't know what happened before she got thrown down and what kind of steps the officers tried to take beforehand but that's part
[11:17:05]of the whole question that this case raises as well you want to train for what's known as escalation and de-escalation of force that's part of the police or the peace officer
[11:17:17]standards and training post that applies to all peace officers in the state of california you're only supposed to use that amount of force which is reasonably
[11:17:27]necessary under the circumstances at the time was that reasonable from the snippet we we saw certainly does not seem to be
[11:17:37]what happened beforehand we don't know yet at least i don't know okay once again we asking the same question any possible focus of hazing even though he was a
[11:17:48]five-year veteran since there were some new officers in that training class hazing is a risk i don't yet have evidence of it but
[11:17:58]hazing would be one explanation as to why officer tipping was so badly injured and beaten
[11:18:08]so certainly that's a possibility and obviously being a firefighter certified firefighter he was in good shape but he was not a firefighter but he was
[11:18:19]in good shape being a bicycle officer requires you to be in good shape because you're riding a bicycle many miles every day how is the family um have they been
[11:18:36]advised or haven't gotten any information either through the department itself or from you um what have they been
[11:18:45]kind of okay so i hear two questions i'll try to deal with both of them
[11:18:56]as far as how the family is doing obviously they are sad they're upset that their sun died
[11:19:06]and it's especially sad day today because the family is collecting his remains and taking it back to northern california so it's such a sad tragedy
[11:19:18]my heart just goes out to this family having to bury a son at 32 years of age which is the age of some of my kids
[11:19:29]i just don't know how i would deal with it and i don't know how they can deal with it except try to put one step forward at a time i think that helps to drive why this
[11:19:40]lawsuit is going to proceed is because of the harm that was done to the family the sadness that they are experiencing
[11:19:51]the anger that it looks like their son was intentionally harmed and the fact that the department isn't giving answers which goes to the second question you want to know what has the
[11:20:03]family been told the family has asked again and again and they haven't been told anything we have tried to interview various
[11:20:14]witnesses and the common response is i need a lawyer i can't talk i'm not allowed to talk the department is asking these same questions those are the kinds
[11:20:25]of responses that we're getting mostly so it's very hard to piece together what happened of course the investigation that i've asked for would help
[11:20:35]the video that i've asked for would help and the more that the department hides it the more suspect it becomes in my mind
[11:20:44]are you trying to okay so we have been listening into this attorney there uh as he is representing
[11:20:55]the mother of this fallen officer houston tipping who was succumbed to injuries from this mob training exercise right
[11:21:06]now we want to get an update from los angeles on this story on the lawsuit we're also getting new sound new reaction from chief moore in los angeles joining me
[11:21:15]now is fox 11's gina silva gina thanks for being with us tonight where is this story going what have you heard well today the chief of police
[11:21:29]michael moore he said that he normally does not comment on any pending litigation but this case has received so much attention and the allegations are so
[11:21:39]damaging that he felt compelled to speak up he he did so during the los angeles police commission meeting take a look austria tiffany did not sustain any
[11:21:50]laceration to the head any a cut or otherwise to his head as a result of his fall to the ground when he and another officer during a training exercise fell to the ground
[11:22:02]officer tipping was also not struck or beaten during this training accession he did grab or grapple with another officer and both fell to ground resulting in a catastrophic injury to
[11:22:12]his spinal cord lapd chief michael moore flat out denies the claims that officer tipping was beaten to death by fellow officers
[11:22:23]during a training exercise at the lapd's legion park academy this after shirley hoffman filed a damages claim on friday alleging her 32-year-old son a five-year
[11:22:35]veteran of the lapd died after he was repeatedly struck in the head during an exercise that simulates a mob attack chief moore says that is not what
[11:22:45]happened the attorney representing the family of the fallen officer says the lapd is trying to cover it up said what type of exercise was performed
[11:22:59]and i wonder why is that secondly how does he explain the extent of injuries i understand that chief moore claims it
[11:23:08]was not a laceration to the head that required staples but i have confirmed again today after hearing his denial and i am
[11:23:18]advised that indeed there was such a laceration to the head on the left side moreover how does he explain the damage to the
[11:23:29]liver that i understand occurred how does chief moore explain a collapsed lung and how does he explain broken ribs i can understand from grappling one of
[11:23:40]those injuries but how to get all of those injuries unless there is a beating now officer tipping died on may 29th
[11:23:54]three days after he suffered those serious injuries the attorney says he has asked the lapd repeatedly for footage from the body-worn cameras he
[11:24:03]says the lapd is just not coming forward with any information or any of that footage andrew gina have we heard from any of the
[11:24:13]officers who were involved in that training as well has any of them spoken out no one is talking i asked that question to the attorney he said everyone is too
[11:24:25]afraid to talk and they are all like just you know not willing to approach anyone not willing to even anonymously say anything about what really went on at the academy
[11:24:36]yeah i mean these injuries that officer tipping uh undergone uh are just staggering and to note that uh this investigation is going forward but chief moore kind of swatting down some of
[11:24:47]these allegations some of these skepticisms right and he made it clear he's like you know i really don't ever talk about any
[11:24:59]any kind of case where a lawsuit may be involved and in this case i'm doing so because the allegations are just too much so
[11:25:08]he's claiming that the officer died from a fall and the attorney is saying wait a minute if you look at all of the injuries
[11:25:18]that's not consistent with a fall i mean you've got head injuries you've got injuries to the body to the back to the to the uh kidney lungs as he mentioned so there's just too much
[11:25:29]to go with just a fall so obviously a big investigation into this case the lapd says they do have an independent agency that's going to be taking a look at this and they should
[11:25:40]have a report out within the next 30 days all right we'll uh stay on top of this alongside you guys at fox 11. we appreciate your time gina silva with us live from los angeles
[11:25:51]thank you andrew thank you all right uh we want to take just a quick two minute commercial break when we come back though we'll be diving into the key highlights of the sixth installment of the january 6th hearing
[11:26:02]into the capital attack remember that hearing members members of congress on the committee they were going to put a two-week pause and resume hearings again
[11:26:12]in july although yesterday we got the word that no they're going to have one today they did the star witness cassidy hutchinson the former aide to white house chief of staff mark meadows more
[11:26:22]on that in two minutes [Music]
[11:27:46][Music] welcome back here to live now from fox
[11:28:36]on this tuesday night we are at the bottom of the nine o'clock hour here on the west coast in phoenix arizona there in the nation's capital it's about 12 30
[11:28:46]in the morning uh and the testimony was powerful a bombshell from cassidy hutchinson talking about the movements of former president trump on
[11:28:58]the day of january 6 when the mob was about to breach the capitol what was said between other people in trump's inner circle mark meadows the white house council pat
[11:29:09]sipoloni white house campaign lawyers trump campaign lawyers and the like fox 13 in tampa has a look at what you might have missed today now to the bombshell revelations today
[11:29:24]in the january 6 committee hearing a top former white house aide just testified that former president trump knew some of his supporters were armed that day and yet demanded that security stop using
[11:29:35]metal detectors and let them in to hear his speech we also heard claims among many other things that the president lunged at a secret service agent who would not drive
[11:29:45]him to the capitol during the siege fox 13's political editor craig patrick joining us now live craig this was stunning testimony from cassidy hutchinson she's the top aide for mr
[11:29:57]former trump former president trump's chief of staff mark meadows and just a lot to kind of parse through today from this there is and for context meadows is not
[11:30:08]cooperating with the january 6 committee but hutchinson certainly is she's already given four interviews prior to today to the committee but she saved her most striking accounts at least publicly
[11:30:18]in terms of what transpired before and during the insurrection and her remarks just a couple of hours ago yes there is a lot to work through here
[11:30:27]let's start with what she said chief of staff meadows president trump told her before the attack there's a lot going on guess but i don't know
[11:30:38]things might get real real bad on january 6. the committee showed how cassidy hutchinson worked steps away from the oval office and was in direct dialogue with or with an earshot of discussions
[11:30:48]relating to january 6. she testified the trump white house had been warned of the potential for violence that day then we heard some attending the former president's speech were showing up with semi-automatic rifles handguns and other
[11:30:59]weapons and that the metal detectors are mags were alerting them to a range of weapons knives guns in the form of pistols and rifles bear spray body armor spears and flag
[11:31:11]poles fastening spheres onto the ends of flagpoles and she said trump was angry before his speech outside the white house when he found out they were not letting people through with weapons i overheard the president say something to
[11:31:23]the effect of you know i don't even care that they have weapons they're not here to hurt me take that effing mags away let my people in they can march the capital from here let the people in take
[11:31:34]the effing mags away then after trump's speech as the mob took aim on the capitol she conveyed a third-hand account in which she heard that trump lunged at a secret service agent bobby engel when he would not drive him to the
[11:31:46]capitol she did not witness that firsthand but said that same secret service agent was next to her as she heard the account from deputy chief of staff for operations tony aronado the president
[11:31:56]reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel mr engel grabbed his arm said sir you need to take your hand off the steering wheel
[11:32:08]we're going back to the west wing we're not going to the capitol mr trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby angle and mr when mr
[11:32:19]ronato had recounted this story to me he had motioned towards his clavicles and in other testimony hutchinson also said with respect to the mob's calls to
[11:32:30]hang mike pence that when she discussed this with the former chief of staff meadows that meadow said that president trump doesn't want to do anything about that because
[11:32:39]he thinks the president thinks that mike pence deserves that and does not think his supporters are doing anything wrong in calling for the hanging of mike pence that was her testimony she also stated
[11:32:51]that meadows generally deferred to trump and the events surrounding and during the insurrection and then sought a pardon for himself at that point so did rudy giuliani again
[11:33:03]those are just some of the points with much more to come in the hearings yet to follow yeah this witness craig was in so many key places during this day and in the days leading up to it and really just kind of tied a lot of things
[11:33:15]together that we hadn't heard before this hearing was a surprise though that the committee announced late yesterday even committee staff didn't get advance notice of this so why did they rush this
[11:33:25]witness to testify and what could that mean well you have to enter the realm of speculation at this point we'll find out very soon it could be a matter of concern that a witness may have cold
[11:33:36]feet and back out although in this case she'd already given four other interviews so maybe not you also have the potential for security concerns get a witness quickly on the record and then provide the security needed if there are
[11:33:48]any threats that they're concerned about but it most likely will be something else is right around the corner and they wanted to get this testimony on the record first what were the highlights
[11:33:58]that the trump white house knew the potential for violence that president trump in knowing that the members of the crowd had weapons called to lift security restrictions then demanded to
[11:34:08]join the riots in progress where that can lead again is a point of speculation but something is in fact likely coming there also were some suggestions at the end of today's hearing that there are
[11:34:20]also some potential concerns about potential witness tampering or witness intimidation which may also be another point yet to come okay a lot to digest from this we knew you'll have more for us later this
[11:34:31]evening craig patrick thank you and we thank fox 13 in tampa there craig patrick specifically for that summary of what you might have missed we want to
[11:34:43]play now some of the highlights from the hearing but first we want to bring to you a statement from the u.s secret service in response to some of those allegations
[11:34:54]you heard from cassidy hutchinson today recounting some type of episode where president trump indicated that he wanted to go join
[11:35:02]those supporters of his at the capitol to which his secret service and the driver of his presidential limousine i believe is a black suburban at the time
[11:35:13]not the beast that so many of us know uh refused to do so to which cassidy hutchinson you heard her there in the testimony today said that president trump lunged for the
[11:35:24]steering wheel and lunged for the driver uh's clavicles uh she said near his clavicles so the state the statement put out by the secret service goes in part
[11:35:35]u.s secret service has been cooperating with a select committee since its inception in spring of 2021 and will continue to do so including by responding on the record to the
[11:35:46]committee regarding the new allegations surfaced in today's testimony well let's take it away with some of these highlights the vice chair of the committee congresswoman liz chaney republican from
[11:35:57]wyoming questioning cassidy hutchinson under oath today mr chairman we will begin today with an
[11:36:14]exchange that first provided ms hutchinson a tangible sense of the ongoing planning for the events of january 6th on january 2nd four days before the
[11:36:24]attack on our capitol president trump's lead lawyer mr giuliani was meeting with white house chief of staff mark meadows and others ms hutchinson do you remember mr
[11:36:35]giuliani meeting with mr meadows on january 2nd 2021 i do he met with mr meadows in the evening of january 2nd 2021
[11:36:45]and we understand that you walked mr giuliani out of the white house that night and he talks to you about january 6th what you remember him saying as mr giuliani and i were walking to his
[11:36:56]vehicles that evening he looked at me and said something to the effect of caster are you excited for the sixth it's going to be a great day
[11:37:05]i remember looking at him saying rudy could you explain what's what's happening on the six uh he and he had responded something to the effect of we're going to the capitol
[11:37:16]it's going to be great president's going to be there he's going to look powerful he's he's going to be with the members he's going to be with the senators talk to the chief about it talk to the chief about it he knows about it
[11:37:28]and did you go back then up to the west wing and tell mr meadows about your conversation with mr giuliani i did after mr giuliani had left the campus that evening i went back up to our office
[11:37:39]and i found mr meadows in his office on the couch he was scrolling through his phone i remember leaning against the doorway and saying i had an interesting conversation with rudy mark
[11:37:50]it sounds like we're going to go to the capitol he didn't look up from his phone and said something to the effect of there's a lot going on guess but i don't know
[11:38:00]things might get real real bad on january 6th ms hutchinson mr meadows is engaged in litigation with the committee to try to avoid testifying here
[11:38:11]um what what was your rea action when he said to you things might get real real bad in the days before january 2nd i was apprehensive about the six i had
[11:38:23]heard general plans for a rally uh i had heard tentative movements to potentially go to the capitol but when hearing rudy's take on january 6
[11:38:34]and then mark's response that was the first that evening was the first moment that i remember feeling scared and nervous for what could happen
[11:38:46]on january 6 and i had a deeper concern for what was happening with the planning aspects of it
[11:38:56]thank you ms hutchinson today we're going to be focusing primarily on the events of january 5th and 6th at the white house but to begin and to frame the discussion
[11:39:07]i want to talk about a conversation that you had with mr john ratcliffe the director of national intelligence and uh you had this conversation in
[11:39:16]december of 2020. mr ratcliffe was nominated by president trump to oversee u.s intelligence our u.s intelligence community
[11:39:27]and before his appointment mr ratcliffe was a republican member of congress as you will see on this clip director ratcliffe's comments in december of 2020
[11:39:36]were prescient my understanding was mr director radcliffe didn't want much to do with the
[11:39:48]post-election period dr rakla felt that it wasn't something that the white house
[11:39:57]should be pursuing it felt it was dangerous for the president's legacy he had expressed me that he was concerned
[11:40:09]that it could spiral out of control and potentially be dangerous either for our democracy or
[11:40:20]the way that things were going for the sex when you say it wasn't something that went out should be pursuing trying
[11:40:33]to fight the results of the election finding missing ballots pressuring filing lawsuits in certain states
[11:40:49]where there didn't seem to be significant evidence and reaching out to state legislatures about that so pretty much the way that the white house was handling the post-election period he felt that
[11:41:00]there could be dangerous repercussions in terms of precedent set for elections for our democracy for the six you know he was hoping that
[11:41:11]we would concede so ms hutchinson uh now we're going to turn to certain information that was available before january 4th and what the trump administration and
[11:41:23]the president knew about the potential for violence before january 6. on the screen you will see an email received by acting deputy attorney
[11:41:33]general donahue on january 4th from the national security division of the department of justice mr donahue testified in our hearings last week
[11:41:43]the email identifies apparent planning by those coming to washington on january 6 to quote occupy federal buildings and discussions of quote invading the capitol building
[11:41:54]here's what mr donohue said to us and we knew that if you have tens of thousands of very ups obsessed people showing up in washington dc that
[11:42:05]there was potential the u.s secret service was looking at similar information and watching the planned demonstrations in fact their intelligence division sent
[11:42:18]several emails to white house personnel like deputy chief of staff tony ornato and the head of the president's protective detail robert engel including certain materials listing
[11:42:29]events like those on the screen the white house continued to receive updates about planned demonstrations including information regarding the proud boys organizing and planning to
[11:42:41]attend events on january 6th although ms hutchinson has no detailed knowledge of any planning involving the proud boys for january 6th she did note
[11:42:51]this i recall hearing the word oath keeper and hearing the word proud boys
[11:43:02]closer to the planning of the january 6 rally when mr giuliani would be around on january 3rd the capitol police issued
[11:43:11]a special event assessment in that document the capitol police noted that the proud boys and other groups planned to be in washington d.c
[11:43:21]on january 6th and indicated that quote unlike previous post-election protests the targets of the pro-trump supporters are not
[11:43:31]necessarily the counter protesters as they were previously but rather congress itself is the target on the sixth of course we all know now that the proud
[11:43:48]boys showed up on january 6th marched from the washington monument to the capitol that day and led the riotous mob to invade and occupy our capital
[11:43:59]ms hutchinson i want to play you a clip of one of our meetings when you described a call on january 4th that you received from national security advisor robert o'brien on the same topic
[11:44:10]potential violence on january 6th i received a call from robert o'brien the national security adviser
[11:44:20]he had asked if he could speak with mr meadows about potential violent words of violence that he was hearing that were potentially going to happen on the hill
[11:44:31]on january 6. i had asked if he had connected with tony ornato because tony renato had a conversation with him with mark about that topic robert had
[11:44:42]said i'll talk to tony and then um i don't know if robert ever connected with mark about the issue
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[11:46:55]us about reports of violence and weapons that the secret service were receiving on the night of january 5th and throughout the day on january 6th is that correct that's correct
[11:47:06]there are reports that police in washington dc had arrested several people with firearms or ammunition following a separate pro-trump rally in freedom plaza on the evening of january
[11:47:16]5th are those some of the reports that you recall hearing about they are of course the world now knows that the people who attacked the capital on
[11:47:26]january 6th had many different types of weapons when a president speaks the secret service typically requires those attending to pass through metal
[11:47:35]detectors known as magnetometers or mags for short the select committee has learned that people who willingly entered the enclosed area for president trump's speech
[11:47:47]were screened so they could attend the rally at the ellipse they had weapons and other items that were confiscated pepper spray knives
[11:47:56]brass knuckles tasers body armor gas masks batons blunt weapons and those were just from the people who chose to go through the security for the president's event on the ellipse
[11:48:08]not the several thousand members of the crowd who refused to go through the mags and watched from the lawn near the washington monument the select committee has learned about
[11:48:18]reports from outside the magnetometers and has obtained police radio transmissions identifying individuals with firearms
[11:48:28]including ar-15s near the ellipse on the morning of january sixth let's listen as an individual who's in a tree
[11:48:40]maybe a white male about six feet tall thin build brown cowboy boots he's got blue jeans and a blue jean jacket and underneath his wooden jacket and we'll
[11:48:51]complain it's both saw at on stock with ar-15 you can be with a group of individuals about five to eight five to uh eight other individuals two of the individuals in that group at
[11:49:02]the base of the tree near the portal bodies were wearing green fatigues greens olive brown cowboy boots they had glock-style
[11:49:15]pistols in their waistband 87-36 with the message that subject weapon on his right hip how do that he's in the tree
[11:49:25]motor one make sure bpd knows they have an elevated threat in the tree south side of constitution avenue look with adult turtle me flag
[11:49:35]american flag face mask cowboy boots weapon on the right right side hip i've got three men walking down the street the seat was carrying ar-15 copying four
[11:49:46]people independent ar-15s at 14th and independence
[11:49:56]as you saw in those emails the first report that we showed we now know was sent in the 8 o'clock hour on january sixth this talked about people in the crowd wearing ballistic helmets and body
[11:50:07]armor carrying radio equipment and military-grade backpacks the second report we showed you on the screen was sent by the secret service in the 11am hour and it addressed reports
[11:50:18]of a man with a rifle near the ellipse ms hutchinson in prior testimony you described for us a meeting in the white house around 10 a.m in the morning of
[11:50:28]january 6th involving chief of staff meadows and tony ornato were you in that meeting i was let's listen to your testimony about that meeting and then we'll have some
[11:50:38]questions i think the last time we talked you mentioned that some of the weapons that people had at the rally included
[11:50:49]flagpoles oversized sticks or flagpoles bear spray is there anything else that you recall hearing about the um the
[11:51:00]people who would gather on your lips hat i recall tony and i having a conversation with mark probably around 10 00 am 10 15 a.m
[11:51:10]where i remember tony mentioning knives guns in the form of pistols and rifles um bear spray body armor spears and
[11:51:22]flagpoles spears were one item flag poles were one item and then tony had relayed to me something to the effect of and these i think people are
[11:51:32]fascinating spheres onto the ends of flagpoles ms hutchinson here's a clip of your testimony regarding mr meadow's response to learning that the rally attendees
[11:51:43]were armed that day what was mark's reaction mr meadow's reaction to this list of weapons that people had in the crowd
[11:51:55]when tony and i went in to talk to mark that morning mark was sitting on his couch and on his phone which was something typical and i remember tony just got right into it i was like sorry i just want to let you know and informed him like
[11:52:06]this is how many people we have outside the mags right now these are the weapons that were known to have it's possible he listed more weapons off that i just don't recall um and gave him a brief but
[11:52:18]inconcise explanation but also fairly fairly thorough and i remember distinctly mark not looking up from his phone
[11:52:29]and i i remember tony finishing his explanation and it taking a few seconds for mark to say something to the point where i almost said
[11:52:40]mark did you hear him um and then bark chimed it was like alright anything else still looking down at his phone
[11:52:50]and tony looked at me and i looked at tony and he said no sir do you have any questions he's like what are you hearing and i looked at tony and i was like sir
[11:53:02]he just told you about what was happening down at the rallies like yeah i know and then he looked up and said have you talked to the president and tony said yes sir he's where to say all right good
[11:53:13]he asked tony if tony had informed the president yes and tony said yes he had so miss hutchinson is it your understanding that mr ornato told the
[11:53:23]president about weapons at the rally on the morning of january 6th that's what mr renato relayed to me and here's how you characterize mr meadows general response when people
[11:53:34]raised concerns about what could happen on january 6th so at the time in the days leading up to the six there were lots of public
[11:53:44]reports about how things might go bad on the sex even the potential for violence if i'm hearing you correctly what stands out to you is that mr meadows did not share those concerns or at least did not
[11:53:56]act on those concerns did not act on those concerns would be accurate but other people raised him to two of him like in this exchange you mentioned
[11:54:07]that this tornado pulled them aside that's correct ms hutchinson we're going to show now an exchange of texts between you and deputy chief of
[11:54:17]staff ornato and these text messages were exchanged while you were at the ellipse in one text you write but the crowd
[11:54:28]looks good from this vantage point as long as we get the shot he was effing furious and the text messages also stressed that president trump kept mentioning the otr
[11:54:40]and off the record movement we're going to come back and ask you about that in a minute but could you tell us first of all who it is in the text who was furious the he and that text that i was
[11:54:50]referring to was the president and uh why was he furious miss hutchinson he was furious because he