[0:00]Yeah, he is? Okay. Oh, he's not coming in. If he comes in, it's going to be by force.
[1:15]Alfredo, where are you? Me too. Come on in. How are you? Good, good, good. Do you have the documents with you?
[1:50]I have a friend over there.
[1:52]I don't see that you have other things. Absolutely, absolutely. Do you have a friend right out here?
[1:58]Yeah, no, he's in the car. Okay, I just want to talk to you, though. No, no, no, no, no. He's not coming in.
[2:04]Okay. All right, let me grab it. I'll show you. You're a smart man. I don't blame you one bit.
[2:18]You know Brad Longtime? Yeah, yeah, I've done some work on him. He's not my only client.
[2:29]Yeah, this is a...
[2:31]Yeah, this is a...
[2:31]It's all here. Let me unwrap it. I'll let you count it when we're all done.
[2:47]Okay.
[2:51]There's thousands, thousands. Over here is fives. That's all fives.
[2:57]I'm going to share the drivers. Those are fives.
[3:01]There you go. I'm going to give you just another one.
[3:03]Dad?
[3:03]Dad?
[3:04]Dad?
[3:09]Give me one second. Let me put this back before we talk.
[3:11]Okay.
[3:20]This is Sam.
[3:23]Because I'm not a friend of yours.
[3:26]I mean, I'm not a friend of yours.
[3:27]I have to tell you that I couldn't disagree.
[3:29]I'm not a friend of yours.
[3:31]Dad?
[3:32]I highlight the book that I have active.
[3:36]Christian information.
[3:37]I have active Christian information.
[3:37]I have active Christian information.
[3:37]I have active Christian information.
[3:37]I have active Christian information.
[3:37]I have active Christian information.
[3:37]I have active Christian information.
[3:37]But, of course, it's not my name that in the paper it is to help Brad.
[3:43]So, you need to point these things to him.
[3:45]And also, I compiled a list of the people, a list of the girls
[3:49]who were going when I was household manager.
[3:54]Okay?
[3:55]But, I took my time to organize this with stickers and I see dates.
[3:59]Now, this book, it was just in property.
[4:03]But, of course, I'm the manager.
[4:05]We have all the cards.
[4:07]We have all the cards.
[4:07]We have all the cards.
[4:07]We have all the cards.
[4:07]back all his planes they were supposed to have it so I'm not stealing anything that was my tool
[4:12]of the trade so this is the information that I'm giving to him but you have to point out to Brad I
[4:17]wait out of my way to point it out who is who beyond that I don't want them to call me you know
[4:25]I want you to remember this if you want to run it down this lady lawyer who was on my left next
[4:31]to Brad she asked me if I know who was the computer with we used to have Citrix all these
[4:37]properties all over the world he used to be the only one having access to this computer probably
[4:43]before the FBI went to the house they took his hard drives I don't know but if you contact and
[4:48]they subpoena this guy he has all the information do me a favor go get the documents bring them in
[4:54]here we're going to lay them on the table we're going to look at everything okay I've got questions
[4:58]from Bradley to ask you okay that way you don't ever have to
[5:01]worry about meeting Brad again talk to Brad again all right you know we'll get that story away okay
[8:24]this is it I have something there for you but I'm going to ask you what if you go
[8:29]one by one for instance John Luke he used to own the current model agencies all over the world
[8:37]he was the scout to bring in young girls that's what he said he's a great model
[8:43]how did you know how do you know that because he called me and said I have
[8:47]to
[8:47]come up for him personally I will pick him up in the airport so you would pick up the girls with him
[8:53]yes okay all the time okay now now you knew he was having sex with these girls no he was not involved
[8:59]he will leave this girl he will everything will operate plane he will back to Paris no I'm talking
[9:05]about Epstein yeah you knew Epstein was having sex with these girls that this guy can't see them
[9:11]but of course you are an adult I have two girls all the blue and the garden we saw and we looked at
[9:17]the other way because once after he leaves the house he will find condoms and vibrators but
[9:23]I went through these two hours of testimony you know but this is the people that I couldn't say
[9:29]in front of the camera I know because I have these documents at home because this is the
[9:34]agreement that I have with Brad he doesn't know this he cannot tell anybody that whoever gives
[9:41]this I don't know where exactly did you find that this was in my in my desk I have an
[9:47]I let me let me explain Epstein own a house all over the world on beach Paris New York
[9:56]solo ranch in New Mexico the island okay he provides for my house my my kitchen is three
[10:04]times as big as this and I have a desk there with this and other books that have information
[10:11]but this was supposed to go I have to call the the pilot I have it there and also my
[10:17]computer but just in case a power failure he was very organized I was supposed to have
[10:21]been using every plane and everything so how did I mean how did that how did you keep that
[10:28]from getting destroyed because uh okay good question
[10:34]one day I took the soup or there were two suburbans identical for the stuff one have a
[10:40]own start the other one didn't have it or something and Epstein said oh I'll credit
[10:44]you took the one I like and use excuse because
[10:47]knew that i was getting i knew a lot of things so he let me go he paid me three months after that no
[10:54]problem uh good recommendation whatever it is but he knew already that i didn't have a clue actually
[11:02]you know i said he was an investigator he didn't investigate proof of that is that when they they
[11:07]prove they show me in the when i was to peanut with brad they saw a statement bank famous with
[11:13]my signature because get me thirty thousand dollars go to colonial bank to get cash
[11:20]my signature they retrieve those from the bank and also the notes from the
[11:25]from the phone even from the garbage the fbi was already telling him i didn't know that
[11:31]the fbi was telling you the fbi was already involved with this after the palm beach police
[11:36]department said we couldn't find anything about asking of course was bought out or something
[11:41]fbi got involved because
[11:43]they came from our state from out of the country so fbi got involved so i saw them both palm beach
[11:49]police department they asked me to subpoena and i say how did you work yes but they don't have
[11:54]nothing of this now you were you were interviewed by the fbi yeah and remember you told me on the
[12:00]phone how come you didn't tell them about that about that no because they didn't ask me do you
[12:05]have any phone numbers i don't have it so you lied to them essentially yeah well yeah because
[12:10]my wife told me this look at this
[12:13]why don't you say to brad we are we right now
[12:18]we're just about to lose the house in miami and i said to brad listen help me and i'm providing
[12:24]with a key what can you provide me i have it do you have these numbers yes i do yes i do
[12:30]and but help me out and this is what we can do the only reason i'm asking these questions
[12:34]and it's not because um i'm curious by any means it's i have to verify that that's a lot of money and
[12:43]that the money that i'm giving you that this stuff is real and that you didn't just go into a mobile
[12:49]and make a bunch of things you know what i mean yeah not that i don't trust you but my job is to
[12:53]vet out any sort of this yeah you want to call someone first i don't know no i don't mean okay
[13:03]let me go on and you will see how deep is this okay yeah okay so we have general brunel so i
[13:09]here i have another thing her highness her um her highness duchess duchess of york personal
[13:16]friend of epstein all the time he's jeff in the house i don't think he was involved that look who
[13:21]called to the house he's in the papers that with your signature okay all right you will see a lot
[13:27]of important people here but let me just show you the secretary of epstein they're addressing new
[13:35]york emails all this was asking what they asked me do you know sarah kellen how can i remember
[13:43]okay
[13:47]a very powerful lady from england she would go to the former east eastern countries in europe
[13:54]and find girls for epstein and i knew that because i went with my wife they used to have a computer
[14:00]so powerful they used to have a water radiator to cool the computer because they used to number
[14:05]pictures like that so fast girls she had nice press she had this and that you saw all that
[14:11]stuff yeah on the computer the pictures of the girls were they naked and stuff like that yeah
[14:15]i testified that he testified
[14:17]already okay brad knows about it but i couldn't prove that that's why they need the guy that
[14:24]fixed the citrix systems he lives in ohio i'm going to him okay they asked me if i know if i knew
[14:35]the guys who ran his state in manhattan i said i know it's joseph and florida i don't remember
[14:41]here joseph and florida real domestic managing capital he said maxwell okay you can ask them
[14:48]they're probably there they're still there
[14:50]a couple of philippines okay massage california i didn't personally knew that this girl was coming
[14:57]from california and these are the numbers okay those are all those are california numbers
[15:03]a lot of these are just uh no no no no but of course of course but this is you have to think
[15:18]about this this information is only for the for for everything his associate very close
[15:24]right you know so those are mostly underage girls those numbers
[15:29]let me let me you you gotta know this you have to know this my wife and i we own um
[15:37]like we used to own a small coffee shop my mom operation and uh we wanted to buy the property
[15:45]because at that time they were asking 300 000 conversion so i i showed the papers to mr epson
[15:50]for to tell me something interesting can you help me you know anybody that can give me money
[15:55]and he said call this person so i call this person beautiful girl
[15:59]28 years old and i said he's jumping down of course he was very eager to see him so he in no
[16:05]time he showed up in the match i think what i'm gonna do throwing it out so i escorted through
[16:10]the outside of the house we started the courtyard have a drink and security about to run your
[16:17]record okay so we met for 10 15 minutes i was escorting out and we saw her and he said hey let's
[16:25]say i don't hurt me it's everywhere
[16:30]okay bye
[16:33]thank you she goes to bring her to my house about mr you getting his number yeah i didn't
[16:45]tell you i don't want to see her again because after 22 years old i'm gone he doesn't want any
[16:52]dirt he's he's he is sick so you didn't like the right that she was there because she was an
[16:59]adult yes yes exactly gotcha so all the girls all we used to have in the in the refrigerator
[17:06]was ice cream for the girls cereal and skin
[17:09]okay this is no they the chef no of course i was the boss so i have to know this thing sure okay
[17:18]so Massage Paris some of these they were in the house in in Palm Beach okay but there's
[17:26]the lawyers they want to see connections between these phone numbers and some of these
[17:31]girls that they're suing because if they would say oh my god they put one and two
[17:36]okay Alberto Pinto is one of the most famous architects
[17:43]in the world he designed his house in Paris call me all the time all his
[17:49]numbers very important people about song for treat he was my colleague house
[17:53]manager of the of the property in Paris they asked me that question the subpoena
[17:58]I didn't I didn't have it there it is okay let me go on sorry I'm kind of
[18:06]nervous but no don't be nervous we're gonna take our time and go through this
[18:09]one thing at a time another thing Brad wants to know my
[18:13]touch in the island little says he brought it out yeah by Google is called
[18:19]little San James but he renamed the island bills and Jeff because of Jeff
[18:23]yes massage I don't I don't know if one of any of these girls they came good
[18:31]guys on there too though yeah but you know like boys too or just girls no I
[18:35]never saw guys here but probably in some other places probably use mail
[18:41]okay
[18:41]now in Manhattan when any of the employees females or males we're
[18:49]supposed to stay for business he owned a building apartment building empty only
[18:54]for me for his model there is the address for his models you mean the
[19:02]girls that he her friends and the way he operates I'm looking so he will be
[19:14]the young-looking
[19:16]the
[19:16]the young-looking the
[19:16]the young-looking the
[19:16]the young-looking the
[19:16]I mean younger girls versus a 50 year 55 year old guy gotcha so they
[19:24]used to stay in that apartment all the entertainment in the best restaurants
[19:29]overall and whatever after exciting very expensive the mother of the kid
[19:39]that everybody asked me who is this kid there is a girl in the second floor
[19:44]she's showing a naked chick and says I don't know because Epstein was the grand father of a woman
[19:52]because Epstein was the grandfather of a woman because Epstein was the grandfather of a woman because Epstein was the grandfather of a woman
[19:52]a grandfather of a woman because Epstein was the grandfather of a woman because Epstein was the grandfather of a woman
[19:54]Oregon
[19:54]at you say Including
[19:56]rij treasury
[19:56]a
[20:17]and so I say as I open the road for him, if come across a table in against me, about theascal.
[20:21]any
[20:23]I would say I'm using the wrong card verbal nowadays that was normal I don't care but that then I would say to somebody I'm doing crap train
[20:26]this is a yeah yeah sure you're a liar right it was i mean fantastic thing only because the girls
[20:32]so a good part very important guy uh here's another one michelle campos was the secretary
[20:40]that he was this this what you say is granted because he was fired for some other reason
[20:46]you can have a witness she will testify very very good fire what does she know about oh she knows
[20:53]everything she's leslie is okay epstein has a personal like sarah used to be in bed and
[21:04]everything but the secretary knows everything the big picture is less in new york she's still
[21:10]as far as i know i called a year ago for a reference for a job leslie was still employed
[21:15]by mr epstein okay so if you call her she will say well you know leon black used to call the house
[21:23]the owner of a photo management
[21:26]he was in the house what kind of he drank wine where did he sit by the pool with the girl
[21:41]do you know our phone numbers no i know he said he would ask you this in court in the deposition
[21:48]oh okay the attorney says yeah okay lady there was a lady she asked me she was very interesting
[21:54]about there for a week and i said i don't know because that's what that particular
[21:58]woman had to look for the reverence to see you know so but anyway he hated i asked his car to
[22:05]uh he was at the house several times it's interesting people do anything bad about
[22:11]no there for which because let's say he used to go and take the sun
[22:15]he has a glass of wine the sun and last day was hunkyiso
[22:20]but he was to be honest with and everything i've said all the things around the pool they were naked
[22:28]or topless, sometimes completely naked.
[22:30]These young girls?
[22:31]Yeah, yeah.
[22:32]And you saw that with your own...
[22:34]And everybody knows the neighbors, you know?
[22:38]I have, I'm going to give you the number for Joe Discopo.
[22:42]He's a, you don't know, Joe...
[22:44]Discopo?
[22:45]No, no, it's not, it's not, it's a hacker, no.
[22:47]His name, the neighbor, again, the crazy naked girl,
[22:53]he's still employed at 356 El Brillo in Ron Leach.
[22:56]He can be a witness, but I have a...
[22:59]The girl who used to come to the house and clean the pool,
[23:02]she's like, I'm coming tomorrow.
[23:04]What happened to all naked, I'm pregnant, you know?
[23:06]So, everything is...
[23:08]Yeah, probably.
[23:09]Yeah, exactly.
[23:10]Now, again, in Palm Beach, he's not the only one doing this,
[23:14]but he was more than that.
[23:15]Right.
[23:17]I don't know if they saw it,
[23:18]Jeffrey has been portable, all the phone numbers.
[23:22]His brother, okay,
[23:24]Eric Janney, he's the lawyer,
[23:27]he used to stay in my house, in the staff house,
[23:29]he was there for fixing problems,
[23:31]sometimes a girl, and this and that,
[23:33]anything that has to do with the law,
[23:36]Eric take care of that.
[23:37]And he came from Connecticut.
[23:40]Do they know about him?
[23:43]Nobody knows about this guy.
[23:44]That's what I put.
[23:45]Eric Janney is a lawyer,
[23:48]he's very close to him,
[23:50]Wilson, Connecticut, okay?
[23:52]What do you mean by you take care of problems with the girls?
[23:55]He will come, not necessarily,
[23:57]let's say one day, one time, one girl,
[23:59]crash a car, and they were trying to,
[24:02]so nobody gets involved, he flies in and he says,
[24:05]Oh, she's the teacher, okay.
[24:07]Yeah, he says, okay, class.
[24:09]He, you do a lot of very work for him.
[24:12]And, okay, he serves, okay.
[24:19]He works with the, John Luke, also recruiting.
[24:23]I put the arrows of the phone that I remember,
[24:26]and there's some out here, they are, they know,
[24:29]I know those numbers when they call to the house.
[24:32]Okay, so, it's a good reference there.
[24:35]Okay.
[24:39]Senator George Mitchell, okay, every day.
[24:42]He's, some days.
[24:44]Epstein is Democrat, so he was asking for money all the time.
[24:47]Now, this is a very important one.
[24:50]Leslie Wexner, he was Jeffrey Epstein's boss.
[24:53]He owns a limited, a guitarist secret,
[24:57]big bucks, right?
[25:00]Three times more than Epstein's, wow.
[25:02]And, any properties in Ohio,
[25:04]I used to call for my insurance, New Albany, Ohio. They asked me about it, the thing, and I said, well, I didn't know. There it is. Address, phone number.
[25:12]When you say they, you gotta clarify, was this the lawyers, the FBI?
[25:16]No, no, no. The FBI didn't know nothing. Nothing. The FBI just went through the files of Palm Beach Police Department, and they didn't subpoena me.
[25:28]We sit down in a coffee shop in Palm Beach, and we sit down there in a suit and tie, and a gentleman and a lady, college graduates, super educated people.
[25:38]I couldn't, if they didn't tell you, they don't show you the ID, you cannot tell they're FBI guys. Young guys, good looking, cool.
[25:46]So they asked me the same thing. How long did you work there? And I said, well, you're asking the same questions from this police department.
[25:55]And they said to me, well, now or never.
[25:58]This is in our hands because it's beyond state borders.
[26:02]Because he was traveling.
[26:04]Exactly. Because he was bringing her from Paris, from the island.
[26:07]As a matter of fact, I used to go to the International Terminal when they came from the island instead of the other jet aviation.
[26:14]So, there it is. Okay.
[26:17]But you had this book.
[26:19]All the time.
[26:20]The whole time?
[26:21]I was supposed to have. Let's say I'm on the road.
[26:24]We'll be there in Palm Beach tomorrow.
[26:28]Can you call someone?
[26:29]So, this was my Bible.
[26:31]You know, because I don't have the computer with me.
[26:34]How come they didn't take that away from you?
[26:36]When they were burning all these books?
[26:38]One Sunday, my last time I was there, Mrs. Maxwell just bought a new Mercedes.
[26:45]She said, Alfredo, can you take me that Mercedes? Brand new.
[26:47]Buy two. It was $65.
[26:49]Can you take me to, take it to Miami to the private aviation on Northwest 36?
[26:54]Yeah, no problem, man.
[26:56]Thank you. Blah, blah, blah.
[26:58]So, I took a couple of these with me.
[27:04]You know, I said, there were so many.
[27:06]There were so many.
[27:07]But they all, you know.
[27:09]Yeah.
[27:11]Now, here I talk to the main thing.
[27:14]This is the guy, the computer guy that knows Citrix.
[27:18]He used to fly in Epsons or private or the commercial and fix the computer.
[27:24]Okay.
[27:25]Team Yukon.
[27:26]Is this the guy that erased the hard drive?
[27:27]Yes, the guy.
[27:30]Okay.
[27:31]Okay.
[27:32]Nobody else was supposed to touch those computers.
[27:34]They have triple firewalls.
[27:37]And the phone company also have a special guy.
[27:40]I'm going to tell you who he was.
[27:42]I mean, the phone company at that time was, it's not there.
[27:45]It's a small company.
[27:48]But he was very particular of nobody else.
[27:51]I used to have the people.
[27:53]They were in the, in this space.
[27:55]The contractors who was allowed to stay.
[27:57]They were the people who drove the home.
[27:58]They were the people who owned the home.
[27:59]They were the people who owned the property.
[28:00]John Cassidy, A.C., and so on.
[28:01]You know, if you hired somebody, I would be fired in a second.
[28:06]Back to the computers.
[28:07]Let's talk about this.
[28:08]Did you ever see anything on those computers?
[28:09]Anything?
[28:10]Any images of girls?
[28:11]Exactly.
[28:12]I saw them.
[28:13]You saw?
[28:14]Remember I told you there was, Gislein Maxwell had an office under the stairs next
[28:18]to the kitchen.
[28:19]There's the computer that was irradiated with water.
[28:22]There was a computer.
[28:23]I saw a computer.
[28:24]It was a computer.
[28:25]It was a computer.
[28:26]water first time in my life i saw that to keep it cool because they used to download pictures like
[28:31]this just like that what kind of pictures naked naked girls from from sweden from romania from
[28:37]czechoslovakia from brazil from all miners all young girls very young very young like when you
[28:43]say very young how young are we talking 17 the teenagers they have braces younger younger than
[28:50]that though yeah yeah okay and this guy from citrix he erased all those images i assume i'm
[28:57]assuming you're sure yeah because were you there when he came and did it no that was after my time
[29:03]okay but this lady attorney asked me do you know who was the who's the guy fixing the computers
[29:10]and i said i don't remember his name but he did it he's labeled okay yeah so um
[29:26]that isn't it's gonna take me a few minutes what was that we heard citrix was the last thing
[29:40]here it can be
[29:43]okay okay it's labeled right there okay that shot of the architect he was in the house he knew a
[29:54]lot of things about the house he can be subpoena and he was with me all the time that's a simple
[29:59]guy but you know right okay he used to call to the house she was friend with
[30:10]some very young friend i don't know what their role but i just happened to when i was looking
[30:16]through this book and i said wait a minute i took messages from i'm pretty sure she can be
[30:22]very important of course donald trump i know that they subpoena him
[30:27]larry visoski was chief pilot superman i'm sorry between this but he knew a lot of things
[30:34]he would buy cars for epstein sometimes in the absence of bring two suburbans and one mercedes i'm
[30:42]close with the 727 inside the hangar we're going to put a red carpet that's according to that
[30:47]type of thing super guy he lives in singer island now i know that they subpoenaed him and i said we
[30:53]didn't know the ages and this and that but okay there is abigail westman leslie westman's wife
[31:02]okay all his numbers all these numbers they were i'm pretty sure they're recorded in in some way
[31:08]because he used to call almost every day you know
[31:12]very powerful people but uh here's and then i don't know colorado london albany georgia
[31:20]you know this this address is where they film and gone with the wind oh really yeah people
[31:26]that mansion yeah and that's the westman the limited thing this is in columbus right
[31:35]white house this is the real white house in the avenue okay jeffrey epstein in new york
[31:42]okay all of his home numbers okay uh these persons they used to call constantly i don't know what
[31:51]they were in the inner circle they're doing very work for him so i highlight those things for him
[31:56]for brad lynn fontanilla and jojo fontanilla another couple from the philippines they run the
[32:04]house for epstein okay okay the one in new york yeah and it says here aka also known as rosalina
[32:11]luciano okay
[32:14]tom sawyer pat he picks the phones nobody else cell phones barbara wife
[32:23]okay gotcha massage united kingdom again this is a different house but a different country
[32:33]but i'm pretty sure some of these they will find connections with the girls he's laying maxwell
[32:40]phone numbers and address in london okay palm beach 140 and i have more here
[32:51]the police carol 60 of these phones are in the lawsuits right now so it's very if you show this
[32:58]in court you know i don't know they're 600 are so there's 40 you say 40 of those numbers are unknown
[33:04]to uh the police or to uh because of my girls gotcha okay and all these numbers one way at least
[33:14]twice they contact a real way if you subpoena the records you would put one on one they call for it
[33:21]you know plus my taking a signature sure message he said well you be in the house it's hard to
[33:27]to deny that okay this was my private phone number okay that was my assistant
[33:35]and this is the the email that all the email used to get to this palm beach manager at earthlink.net
[33:43]michael and sally they were eight people before me there were a lot of people in and out because
[33:50]it requires a special kind of people too mike pezzugo is the neighbor he says a real neighbor
[33:57]he knows a lot of things he saw me on the street we used to talk constantly he used to come to the
[34:03]house he flew to the island with epsom on time to the help of the episode all right alan estope
[34:08]landscape landscape landscape architect he was in the house but you know again critical witness
[34:17]jeffrey epstein sorrel ranch this is in
[34:20]mexico this is the biggest ranch in new mexico uh he was related to bill richards governor of
[34:27]new mexico okay so massage new mexico those are all girls from new mexico yeah all of these those
[34:37]are girls numbers or these are girls numbers all of these two years okay okay this is my oh yeah
[34:44]there's more here yeah you're right you're right now i don't know this because i never interacted
[34:49]with new mexico okay
[34:52]okay jerome this was i used to pay him the other guardian he's a black guy from haiti
[34:58]you know laid back but you know he's asking he will say the truth the christian guy
[35:06]okay now this is notes that i i took from my notes little things that they were attached uh
[35:18]some of these they weren't in the they asked me if i know this i know first of all i used to have
[35:25]loose papers you know sometimes it notes for myself uh for instance
[35:41]in the house we stood up safe with 30 40 000 i don't know at all okay behind that that
[35:48]was to be in epstein's house when he's in the house when he flies away put it back into the safe
[35:54]and these type of things you know i used to handle cash account checking accounts and a
[35:58]credit card for gas for the vehicles money was like nothing at all i better get me 30 000 go to
[36:04]see the envelope in the truck or real was that the same thing that one this is
[36:10]okay this is something this lady attorney asked me if I know his email
[36:16]addresses and here they are Jeffrey at mine spring that coming from beach G
[36:22]project at Yahoo that home in New York solar ranch I hear other common in
[36:27]Mexico Epstein wonder is in Paris he's lame
[36:31]Maxwell G marks one at my screen but calm team new calm citrix system
[36:37]programmer in-house this is a computer guy yeah Charlie Palmer he used to be a
[36:43]chef in New York East house and he knows about if you subpoena this guy he he
[36:51]knows what's going on in the house Joe Pagano is a chef also in Aspen used to
[36:55]go and cook for him now this is another one Chris offer is a French guy used to
[37:00]work in jet aviation
[37:01]and whenever I needed some extra people moving cars he was he was always
[37:08]available he wanted to have my job so he was much two three years before me so he
[37:13]knew a lot of things got him Secret Service personnel escorting is the
[37:18]Baraki hood former Prime Minister of Israel on Jeffries in plane I don't
[37:23]know who the Secret Service but I'm pretty sure they can say that we were
[37:26]in Palm Beach and such and not with Epstein what went on that plane and what
[37:30]how's that valuable because I'm
[37:31]here miss that he said mr. radius like you to New York and some of the girls
[37:37]that came along the way were probably playing would be old yeah
[37:41]okay so you think how did former head of state always
[37:42]uh yeah yeah I totally surprised you know dammit you can bring the guide
[37:51]downlight no time
[38:01]that I don't think is in the book.
[38:04]David Copperfield, a magician, his phone number.
[38:07]What about that?
[38:09]He was in the house performing tricks,
[38:12]and if you subpoena him, he will say,
[38:14]well, they were his age or not.
[38:16]I'm pretty sure it's an important witness.
[38:18]Okay.
[38:19]Now, they were not naked when he was there,
[38:20]but I served them dinner, you know, and .
[38:24]Okay, this is the phone number.
[38:27]David Cook, I lost contact with him.
[38:30]He was the chef in Palm Beach.
[38:32]They used to fly with the Epstein
[38:33]when I was in Palm Beach, 2004, 2005.
[38:37]Witnessed, interacted, and chatted daily
[38:40]with underage girls.
[38:42]Gotcha.
[38:45]This I compiled for Brad.
[38:50]So that's pretty much everything.
[38:51]This is it.
[38:52]All right, I just have a couple questions
[38:53]I need to go over from Brad.
[38:57]Just to reiterate, how'd you know
[38:58]what was going on with the girls?
[39:00]Just from you seeing them
[39:02]when they get in the house, or?
[39:03]Well, the first, the activity starts with a phone call.
[39:06]Sarah usually was the one to tell Fredo,
[39:09]and , four o'clock, I need two massage tables.
[39:16]So I said, Luella, can you give me a hand?
[39:18]It was collapsible, so we used to run, put,
[39:21]and then disappear, because everything
[39:23]was supposed to be done, but we are not supposed
[39:25]to be seen in second floor.
[39:27]And when they leave, they used to go to comedy shops
[39:31]or ice cream bars or movies, a lot of movies,
[39:35]because they were, they were babies.
[39:38]Ice cream and comedy and movies, nothing else in the house.
[39:43]And actually, they went to, they leave the house for,
[39:47]Luella sometimes, I have another girl I wanted to point out.
[39:52]She was, I find out this, this is the cleaning lady
[39:56]that Brad asked me, anybody else is cleaning the house?
[39:59]Hilda, I found this, I'm not here.
[40:05]I'm here to see the picture.
[40:15]When they leave, we used to know that the disarray,
[40:19]the vibrators, creamers on the floor, you know,
[40:21]there's no massage there, you know?
[40:24]I mean, sex toys.
[40:25]So you used to see the sex toys and stuff like that?
[40:28]Right, because I read something in some of the police reports
[40:31]that Brad had in the files.
[40:34]You were in charge of cleaning some of these sex toys
[40:37]for him?
[40:38]Yeah, cleaning some of these cleaners, okay?
[40:40]Francis Padron.
[40:42]Okay. So he was in the house,
[40:43]years before me, and when Epstein would leave the house,
[40:47]I would call him, he would come with an army of cleaners
[40:49]from top to bottom, and they would find condoms,
[40:54]they would find, you know, this and other people.
[40:57]After having these girls in the house.
[40:59]Okay.
[41:01]I'm sorry, what was your question before?
[41:04]I said I would list the questions here.
[41:07]Just to correlate with this information you're giving me,
[41:10]how long ago was it that you were,
[41:12]you were interviewed when you were subpoenaed,
[41:14]and what was that?
[41:15]Okay, the first time I was subpoenaed
[41:17]with the Palm Beach Police Department,
[41:19]Palm Beach Court, that was 2006, I think.
[41:23]All right.
[41:24]And what about the FBI?
[41:25]The FBI, a year after that.
[41:27]A year after that?
[41:28]Yeah, I was working for the Mrs. Donahue.
[41:30]And you told me about the computer
[41:33]that had all the images on it.
[41:34]You said that was downstairs.
[41:36]Downstairs, yeah, next to the kitchen.
[41:37]Next to the kitchen.
[41:38]Yeah.
[41:39]And was that password protected?
[41:42]So you could just go on there and see whatever?
[41:46]I just turn it on, and you know.
[41:49]And Epstein would sit at that computer?
[41:50]And actually, yes.
[41:53]You know why I went to that computer?
[41:55]It's not because I was trying to do something
[41:58]where I'm not supposed to.
[41:59]I lost, we lost power.
[42:01]And my computer was, excuse me,
[42:04]in my, in the staff house, so I went to the main house.
[42:06]I needed to send some information
[42:08]after the hurricane or something.
[42:09]So he was, I had a camera, take the camera,
[42:12]download it, and send the camera to, you know, Mr. Donahue.
[42:13]Whatever it was.
[42:15]So this computer was working.
[42:17]And one day, my wife came to Palm Beach,
[42:20]and I said, do you want to see something?
[42:21]And I, you know, we saw the pictures here from it.
[42:26]Did you ever see any email addresses for the girls?
[42:33]They are crawling those computers.
[42:36]If they haven't been wiped out by that guy, right?
[42:38]Yes.
[42:39]Um.
[42:40]Mom and parents?
[42:42]Yeah.
[42:43]These are very young girls.
[42:45]Why do you have your parents
[42:46]phone number next to you?
[42:47]You circle that for me, don't you?
[42:48]Yeah.
[42:50]I just put that, that type of thing, highlighted,
[42:54]but you will see that why it's.
[42:56]Circle it for me, though, so I know.
[42:58]So much stuff they have, there you go.
[43:02]And there's another one.
[43:03]You will see parents there that, you can't do things.
[43:07]She, mom.
[43:13]And they, they tell mom, I'm in school.
[43:16]on public with my groceries.
[43:18]And I saw a shitty car on the driveway.
[43:20]And I called the police.
[43:22]I went over there.
[43:23]I said, hello, let me see some ID.
[43:27]And there's, I didn't know.
[43:29]They wrote a report.
[43:30]And the police, they said, these people, I don't know.
[43:32]The masseuse.
[43:34]And they are young people trying to get sex.
[43:37]to talk to her.
[43:38]No, no, no, it doesn't ring a bell on the phone, I'm sorry.
[43:41]The only other question I have for you is,
[43:44]do you know if Epstein had any hidden cameras in the house?
[43:47]Yes.
[43:48]He did?
[43:48]Yeah.
[43:49]Where were the hidden cameras at?
[43:50]One in the garage.
[43:51]In the garage?
[43:51]Yeah.
[43:52]In the garage?
[43:52]Yeah.
[43:53]And one, this is his bed.
[43:56]And he used to have an alarm clock.
[43:59]And what, it was always the shadows that were closed.
[44:02]He was crazy about somebody peeking.
[44:04]And this would project the time on the wall at night.
[44:08]And in there was a camera.
[44:10]And what did he do with the videos?
[44:14]You don't know?
[44:14]No.
[44:15]But how did you know he had a video camera?
[44:17]I wrote, I saw that on the internet.
[44:19]The police discovered those cameras.
[44:21]Oh, really?
[44:22]All right.
[44:23]But you don't know where any of that's
[44:24]stuff would be or anything?
[44:27]You know, if you contact the situation guy,
[44:31]you can subpoena him and he cannot lie.
[44:34]Because there's some records that they want to say.
[44:36]Even if you erase it, I know a computer
[44:39]will say there's somewhere in the memory you can retrieve.
[44:42]Hopefully, you know?
[44:43]OK.
[44:44]And if he would tell the truth, he would say, yes,
[44:47]I was supposed to be doing this, this, and that.
[44:49]Anything else you think might be helpful that you
[44:51]didn't tell anybody about before?
[44:54]Yeah.
[44:54]Call me, OK?
[44:56]You know, my phone number.
[44:58]But I would hate to be in court or if they say,
[45:02]is this your handwriting, please?
[45:04]You know, I don't know who's going to have this.
[45:05]But you know, it doesn't have my name.
[45:07]It's my writing.
[45:08]But you know, I just want to put this behind it.
[45:12]And let's help each other.
[45:13]All right.
[45:14]Let me get you your money, buddy.
[45:17]OK.
[45:18]Here.
[45:18]I want to take this.
[45:19]Yeah, just leave it right there for now.
[45:20]I'll go get your money.
[45:21]You can count it if you want.
[45:29]I might as well give you this bag to take with you.
[45:31]You can't walk out of here with this kind of cash.
[45:34]Go ahead and count it.
[45:35]And while you're counting it, I'm
[45:36]going to call Brad and see if he has any additional questions
[45:40]real quick before I let you go.
[45:50]Good, man.
[45:50]How are you doing?
[45:51]Stand up.
[45:53]What are you talking about?
[45:57]What?
[45:57]What I have done is bad.
[45:59]What are you talking about?
[45:59]We're going to talk about it.
[46:00]Yeah, we're done.
[46:01]Go ahead.
[46:01]Go to the room in the car.
[46:02]We're going to talk about what you're doing.
[46:04]Yeah, we just wanted to.
[46:06]You have any weapons on the operator?
[46:07]No, sir.
[46:07]No.
[46:08]Put that out in the car.
[46:09]No, no.
[46:09]Does your buddy have one?
[46:10]No, sir.
[46:11]No.
[46:11]No.
[46:12]All right.
[46:12]Well, relax, dude.
[46:14]You're not in any harm right now,
[46:17]but we're going to talk about what's going on.
[46:22]Who called that thing?
[46:24]There's no weapons, right?
[46:25]No.
[46:26]No.
[46:26]No.
[46:27]No.
[46:27]No.
[46:28]No.
[46:31]No.
[46:32]No.
[46:32]No.
[46:33]No.
[46:33]No.
[46:34]No.
[46:34]No.