DOJ-OGR-00033287

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Duration: 17:07 · 265 segments · Transcribed with Whisper large-v3 · House Oversight Committee · JSON
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[0:02]I appreciate you coming down.
[0:04]Not a problem.
[0:04]I was all the way out there, driving all around.
[0:07]Sorry about that.
[0:08]No, it's all right. It's all right.
[0:11]Uh, do you have identification with you?
[0:15]Why I came, I asked you to come down so you could talk to me is I'm working a case, which I believe you may have some information.
[0:48]Okay.
[0:49]Okay.
[0:49]Mm-hmm.
[0:50]Gentleman's name is Jeff.
[0:51]Mm-hmm.
[0:51]Okay?
[0:52]Mm-hmm.
[0:52]He lives in Albrillo.
[0:53]I was actually thinking about it on the way here, and I remember who you're talking about.
[1:01]Why don't you start from the beginning for me real quick.
[1:03]Before you do, let me swear you won.
[1:05]Okay.
[1:05]Okay?
[1:06]Raise your right hand.
[1:08]Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so I hope you got it.
[1:11]Yeah.
[1:12]Okay.
[1:13]Tell me from the beginning how you met this gentleman.
[1:16]Um, through a friend.
[1:17]Her name is...
[1:18]Um, she told me about this guy.
[1:21]I was short on rent one month, and she told me that all I had to do was give him a massage, and he would give me $200.
[1:26]And that's pretty much it, and I thought about it.
[1:31]I was like, I really need the money.
[1:32]I've asked my parents.
[1:33]They can't give me the money.
[1:34]I asked everyone I knew, and I went there with her.
[1:37]I gave him a massage, and it was a weird situation.
[1:42]Okay.
[1:43]Why don't you tell me, let me back you up.
[1:45]When did this happen?
[1:48]Honestly, I really don't remember.
[1:49]It was a few months ago.
[1:50]I know that.
[1:51]When you say a few months ago, you're talking, what, July, August, September?
[2:00]Probably around July or August.
[2:02]July, August.
[2:03]Mm-hmm.
[2:15]I just met her through a friend.
[2:19]Her name is...
[2:19]And that's pretty much all I know about her.
[2:26]Her boyfriend was a roommate of mine for about three weeks, and that was it.
[2:30]And I haven't talked to her since.
[2:31]Okay.
[2:33]So she took you...
[2:34]Mm-hmm.
[2:36]...for a massage, to give a massage.
[2:38]Mm-hmm.
[2:39]Okay, have you had any formal massage training?
[2:41]No.
[2:42]No.
[2:43]And what else did she tell you what you had to provide?
[2:46]That's it.
[2:47]Just a massage?
[2:47]That's all I knew.
[2:48]That's all she told me.
[2:49]Okay.
[2:49]Did you provide the massage with clothing on?
[2:53]All I had was underwear on.
[2:54]She did not tell me that.
[2:55]I was absolutely surprised when I got there.
[2:58]I knew nothing.
[2:59]Okay.
[3:00]Did she tell you that you would have to provide the massage with just underwear?
[3:05]No.
[3:06]She did not.
[3:07]Okay.
[3:08]What do you mean, my underwear?
[3:09]What do you mean?
[3:10]Only with my underwear.
[3:11]Just panties?
[3:12]Yes.
[3:13]How old are you now?
[3:20]You're...
[3:20]I'm 20.
[3:21]You're 20.
[3:21]Mm-hmm.
[3:22]So a couple months ago, you would have been, what, 19?
[3:25]Yes.
[3:26]So, well, your birthday's on July 20, okay.
[3:36]So what else happened when you were providing the massage?
[3:42]That's just it.
[3:43]He had a towel over his private parts, and he was just laying on a table,
[3:47]and I was just massaging from his knee down for about 45 minutes,
[3:52]and she said all I had to do was give him a massage for an hour.
[3:56]So that's...
[3:57]That's what I did.
[3:58]And then, like, 10 minutes before we were getting ready to leave,
[4:01]he asked her to leave because we were in the room together,
[4:05]and all I had to do was massage his chest, and that's it.
[4:08]He had the towel on him, and about five minutes into it,
[4:12]he took the towel off and started pleasing himself,
[4:15]which I was very uncomfortable with.
[4:17]Like, I wanted to leave right when I got there.
[4:21]Okay, so he was in the room with you until 10 minutes before the massage was over?
[4:26]About 10 minutes, yes.
[4:27]He rolled onto his back?
[4:32]Yes, while we were both doing the massage.
[4:33]Obviously, to massage his chest, he had to get on his back.
[4:37]Okay.
[4:38]He had the towel still on him?
[4:40]Yes.
[4:40]Okay.
[4:41]You were just in your panties?
[4:42]Yes.
[4:43]Drinking himself?
[4:50]Yes.
[4:54]Masturbating.
[4:55]Was anything else happen?
[5:08]I'm sorry, I don't like thinking back on it, so...
[5:14]Okay.
[5:15]Mind you, a lot of people are the only person that he's...
[5:33]I'm trying to just...
[5:34]I'm not that type of person.
[5:36]That's why I was so...
[5:36]And I understand that.
[5:40]I am being completely honest with you.
[6:05]And when he started pleasing himself, he got up and he went over to a drawer.
[6:12]And he pulled out this vibrator thing and then he pulled down my panties and then he started...
[6:18]It was just like this...
[6:19]I don't know, it was like a stick with this knob thing on it.
[6:22]And he didn't, like, stick it inside me or anything, but he just, you know, put it on me.
[6:27]And that was it.
[6:28]And a couple minutes later, it was over.
[6:31]And he left.
[6:32]I put my clothes on.
[6:33]I put my clothes on and I went downstairs.
[6:36]He moved your underwear.
[6:55]At the same time, was he masturbating?
[7:01]Is this going to be, like, all confidential and everything, or...
[7:04]You're speaking to me, that's why I left your boyfriend out there.
[7:06]Okay.
[7:06]Okay?
[7:07]I mean, he knows everything, because I told him, so...
[7:10]Okay.
[7:19]When you said it all ended, how did it end?
[7:25]He just...
[7:26]He...
[7:26]He came, he cleaned himself off, and he just got up and walked out.
[7:33]He's like, okay, you can put your clothes on, and he closed the door.
[7:36]After he walked out.
[7:37]And when I went out, I went downstairs, and he was down there, and there were, like, three other girls there.
[7:47]I guess they stay there or something.
[7:48]Okay.
[7:50]Do you know who those girls are?
[7:51]I have no idea.
[7:52]And where did this take place in the house?
[7:55]Through the back door, up the stairs.
[8:01]I guess it was in his bathroom.
[8:05]I don't know if it was his bathroom.
[8:06]I'm guessing it was his bathroom, because I'd never been there before.
[8:09]Okay, describe the bathroom for me.
[8:12]There was a sauna, there was a shower, there was a vanity, the door, a dresser, a closet, a couch, and another room that was closed off.
[8:29]Okay, what color was the couch?
[8:32]Oh, I don't even know.
[8:33]It had a towel over it.
[8:34]Okay.
[8:35]Who were the other people downstairs, do you remember?
[8:44]No.
[8:44]No.
[8:44]They were just three girls down there.
[8:46]I know one girl, her name is ******, because he introduced me to her.
[8:51]Describe her to me.
[8:54]She has brown hair about right here, maybe 5'5", 5'6", maybe 120 pounds, I guess.
[9:09]She was young, maybe 23.
[9:11]When you say he came, do you mean he ejaculated?
[9:19]Yeah.
[9:20]Okay.
[9:21]Didn't he clean himself with his towel?
[9:22]Same towel he had on?
[9:23]Yeah.
[9:25]Okay, and then he told you to get dressed?
[9:27]Mm-hmm.
[9:27]Okay.
[9:28]During the time that he was utilizing the vibrator, were you hurt in any way?
[9:42]No.
[9:42]This was the only time you went?
[9:56]Yes.
[9:57]And you were paid how much?
[9:59]Um, $200.
[10:00]When you went back downstairs, did you meet up with?
[10:34]She was outside in her car.
[10:36]She was?
[10:38]Yes.
[10:39]Okay.
[10:41]Method of contacting you?
[10:51]Yes.
[10:51]He asked me for my phone number just in case.
[10:53]He wanted to call me and come back, and they called me, and I never called them back.
[10:58]They called me with a bunch of different phone numbers, and I picked up one time, and after
[11:02]that, I never picked up again because I didn't know who the numbers were, and they left
[11:06]me several messages, and I never called them back.
[11:11]Have they tried to contact you recently?
[11:14]When was the last time you had contact with them?
[11:16]Had contact with them, actually spoke with them.
[11:18]Or left you a message?
[11:19]Left me a message maybe a month ago.
[11:22]A month ago.
[11:23]What did the message say?
[11:30]Um, just wanting me to come back, wanting me to know if I could work, they called it
[11:37]work.
[11:38]Um, and that they left a number, and I never called back.
[11:43]So when they say you want to work, that means a massage?
[11:45]Yes.
[11:55]Did he say anything to you while you were doing the massage?
[11:58]He was talking about like art and everything like that, and you know, just the paintings
[12:03]on the walls that he had and stuff like that.
[12:06]Anything that you've noticed in that room that you felt that was odd?
[12:12]The whole situation was odd.
[12:14]When we first pulled up, before we even got out of the car, she said, don't say anything,
[12:18]don't speak unless you're spoken to.
[12:20]So I got, I got like, I was like, you know, what the hell are you getting me into, you
[12:25]know what I mean?
[12:26]So I didn't say anything, and the whole, there was pictures, they were pencil drawings
[12:33]of naked people.
[12:35]I don't know.
[12:36]I was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
[12:37]That's all that looked really weird.
[12:38]Okay.
[12:39]And when you entered in the house, how did you enter in the house?
[12:42]Through the front door?
[12:43]No.
[12:44]There was a back glass door.
[12:47]Okay.
[12:48]And we just walked in, and then we walked straight, and then I apparently knew the
[12:54]girls that were there, and she was like, oh hi, blah, blah, blah.
[12:56]And then we just went up the stairs, and that was it.
[12:59]Okay.
[13:00]So I was in the room with you when you started the massage?
[13:05]Mm-hmm.
[13:05]doing it as well she was doing it with you yes okay did she receive any money i yes she did
[13:12]i don't know how much though for taking you or for doing the massage i believe it was both
[13:18]the wear yes or was she naked no she was in her underwear and when you say underwear
[13:38]just panties was it regular panties was it thong panties um i was wearing pink boy
[13:49]short kind of i don't know if you know the boy short yeah and she was wearing the same thing
[13:54]okay pink as well no hers were red i think i know this may be uncomfortable but
[14:05]did anything happen between you and no while you were providing the massage
[14:09]no way no he didn't ask you guys to do anything and when you came back down is when you encountered
[14:31]and two other girls two other girls okay you don't know who the other two girls were
[14:39]okay
[14:40]no idea each time that they called you yes or i didn't make contact with you yes i picked up one
[15:29]time i picked up one time and ever since then i have not picked up any numbers that i don't know
[15:42]because i've been so afraid that was going to be them calling and i accidentally pick up you know
[15:46]i don't you know i don't even know why you didn't pick up my line yeah actually it is i'm
[15:50]sorry that's all right and i just assumed that it was you the next time that you called me
[15:54]so but ever since then i don't pick up any phone numbers that i don't know if they really need to
[16:00]talk to me
[16:00]they can leave a message and the one time i did pick up i had to say that i had to go to my
[16:14]grandparents house so that's that was the only time you ever went i only picked yes the only time i
[16:22]ever went i'm like i'm so ashamed that i did that because that's not like me okay trust me i
[16:33]understand you're not the only like i said i've been dealing with the only one that wasn't a pinch
[16:42]for cash and they felt that this was an easy way because when i heard it was just a massage i was
[16:46]like you know i'm like are you sure there's nothing wrong with you i'm like i don't know if
[16:49]there's anything wrong with you i don't know if there's anything wrong with you i don't know if
[16:49]there's anything else to it she's like yes i'm sure i'm like is there anything weird about this guy
[16:53]that i need to know she's like no and ever since like i felt she lied to me and betrayed me you
[16:58]know even though you know being being stupid i just met this girl you know what i mean
[17:03]and she didn't tell me anything about that i haven't talked to