DOJ-OGR-00030338

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[0:06]number 7915. Detective Jerry Carey, president with me is Detective Sandman. We're taking a statement from
[0:16]I just explained to you that my purpose of speaking with you is that of a witness.
[0:31]Basically, in your own words, I'd like for you to tell me how you came in contact with this gentleman
[0:37]named Jeff. But before we do things, raise your right hand for me.
[0:44]You found this place, I'll choose to host this, and I'm about to speak to help you guys.
[0:51]We'll start from the beginning.
[0:54]Okay, well, we were really good friends.
[1:00]And we were just hanging out one day, and she was like, hey, you know, I met this guy on the run
[1:06]and he wanted to make some money.
[1:09]And I was like, well, you know,
[1:11]for what? Because I didn't know.
[1:14]She's like, oh, I used to do
[1:16]like massage in for like 200 bucks.
[1:19]And I was like, what?
[1:20]I was like, no.
[1:22]And all the time, they would ask me all the time, and I never would.
[1:25]But finally, she was like, all right,
[1:26]well, will you go over there with me?
[1:28]And I was like, all right, I'll go.
[1:30]Like, how's my palm beach hour?
[1:31]And I was like, why the hell not? I didn't see anything wrong with it.
[1:35]So I went,
[1:36]and I sat in the kitchen.
[1:39]I thought, just cook.
[1:41]I wanted to go.
[1:41]I wanted to go, like, upstairs, like, to there.
[1:43]But since I wasn't working, I was not
[1:46]allowed to go anywhere
[1:47]in that kitchen. I wasn't allowed to walk around.
[1:49]I wasn't allowed upstairs.
[1:52]Wasn't allowed.
[1:53]When did this first happen?
[1:55]Years from time. Like, maybe around
[2:01]About a year ago?
[2:04]Yeah, about a year ago.
[2:06]Okay. All right. And you went, and you sat in the kitchen?
[2:12]Yep.
[2:12]And you met with the cook?
[2:13]Yes. One guy.
[2:16]What's his name? Do you remember?
[2:18]I do not remember.
[2:19]How many times do you think you've been to that house?
[2:26]I'd say about, like, four or five.
[2:30]Four or five times?
[2:31]Mm-hmm.
[2:32]Now, when you went there, obviously, you didn't go up, you didn't go up work for him.
[2:38]Right.
[2:39]As they call it.
[2:40]Um, who, who, uh, who did the work the time that you went?
[2:45]Like, the girls, um, I went with the name of, uh,
[3:11]I was in that day.
[3:29]Okay.
[3:30]Right.
[3:31]So she's the one that worked?
[3:32]Yes.
[3:33]Okay. Each, each girl that you went with, wanted to do the work?
[3:39]Yes.
[3:41]That one day, when I was with him.
[3:43]Okay. Can you recall any conversations, um, in the car with either that you may have had with him as far as what to expect?
[3:57]I think I remember that if he tells you, hey, you know what I mean, if you want to do anything else, just feel free to say no.
[4:06]And how, you know what I mean?
[4:09]He will, something to the extent where, like, hey, if he's like, will you do this, just feel free to say no, and he'll be okay with it.
[4:17]Pretty much.
[4:18]Okay. And what, what do you mean by, if he wants to do this, it's more than a massage?
[4:23]Right.
[4:23]Okay. What, what do you know of that goes on up in the massage or work?
[4:29]Nobody ever wanted to tell me anything, just that there have been massages and all, and I didn't even want to really know too much.
[4:38]Okay.
[4:45]So, basically, this was like a little quick, you guys, based on what I found out.
[4:55]Right.
[4:56]Um, did she ever receive money for taking people?
[5:01]Yes, she did. Every time she brought a girl, she made an automatic $200.
[5:05]She made a $200?
[5:06]Mm-hmm.
[5:07]Who paid her?
[5:08]I believe.
[5:09]Did you ever make any money for going with her, or?
[5:15]Never once. I never even really talked to him.
[5:23]Like, he came down twice.
[5:25]Twice, I think, just to say hello, and I was pretty much ready to shove my hand, and that was it.
[5:31]Okay. Who else do you know of that might have come to the house?
[5:37]I know a lot of girls that went there. Um, yeah, I'm pretty sure. She's the one that told us all about it.
[5:51]How do you think Ace met him?
[5:55]I have no idea. I think I asked him once, but I don't know. Me and him, we don't talk anymore. We don't talk so much.
[5:59]During the drive, was there anybody, um, out of the three that you recall? Did she say that if you do this, you get this? If you do that, you get this? The more you do, the more you get paid?
[6:33]Um, no, she never said anything like that. She just said that you just get $200 for, like, a massage. That was pretty much it. Nothing else.
[6:44]She never said anything, like, sexual.
[6:49]I would say she was lying.
[6:58]About her age. You know.
[7:02]You know her last name?
[7:07]I remember her telling us that she's a twin.
[7:12]They went. Obviously, they went to high school.
[7:24]Right.
[7:25]Why?
[7:26]Because she just looked really young. She was just, like, really confused about what was going on. She just had $200. She was just like, wow. You know, she just looked really young. Things about her.
[7:48]Really?
[7:49]Yeah.
[7:50]Did she say she was?
[8:01]I think she could see it.
[8:05]Okay.
[8:38]One girl. I forget her name, but she was, like, a secretary. She answered all the phone calls. Um, really pretty girl. Really pretty blonde girl. She was a model. I don't, I don't remember her name.
[8:56]She was very nice. Really, really, very nice.
[9:02]The only time I ever, like, really went was with her. She was, like, always there. All the time.
[9:29]I couldn't work. Always. I, I never did. Never. I couldn't. Just didn't, there was something wrong about that.
[9:44]You know, I'm not stupid.
[9:46]Yeah.
[9:47]Do you know if any of these girls had any formal massage training? Trying to figure that out?
[9:55]Yeah.
[9:56]Is there anything else that you'd like to add to the statement?
[10:01]I guess that's it. That's all I know.
[10:06]Alright, before I end it, it just looks like it just came to my mind. How long ago was this?
[10:10]I want to say about a year ago, too.
[10:15]A year?
[10:16]Yeah.
[10:17]Okay.
[10:23]We, about the same time. I haven't seen any of these girls in about a year. Well, actually, I haven't heard about, definitely, about a year.
[10:30]Okay. And what about?
[10:32]About a year ago.
[10:35]A year ago.
[10:36]Okay. At this time, I'm going to go ahead and conclude the statement. Again, I appreciate you meeting with me.
[10:50]Thank you.
[10:52]Do you have any questions?
[10:53]No.
[10:54]Okay. At this time, I'm going to go ahead and conclude the statement. The time on my watch is about 1025 a.m.