[0:04]Okay. Today's date is December 13, 2005. This is ID number 7915, Detective Charlie Kerr at the town of Palm Beach Police Department.
[0:14]Present with me is Detective Dawson of the Palm Beach Police Department. And could you state your name for the record, please?
[0:19]Michelle Machado.
[0:21]Can you say your last name for me?
[0:22]L-I-C-H-A.
[0:24]Okay, Michelle, what's your date of birth?
[0:26]2-29-88.
[0:28]Okay, I will do.
[0:29]Michelle, I already spoke to your mom, and she has given me authorization to speak to you in reference to this case.
[0:38]I am investigating a case, case number 05368, involving a gentleman by the name of Jeffrey.
[0:45]You may know him as Jeff or Jeffrey.
[0:51]He lives in the town of Palm Beach.
[0:55]I have reason to believe that you may have some information pertaining to his residence and or a visit at his house.
[1:01]I'm worried to tell you exactly what happened from the beginning.
[1:07]I may interrupt you to ask you some more.
[1:08]I have a few more questions.
[1:10]But before we begin, can you raise your right hand for me?
[1:12]You found me, so I will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
[1:15]I hope you got it.
[1:16]Okay.
[1:17]Awesome.
[1:18]In your own words, tell me exactly how you were introduced to this gentleman in Palm Beach.
[1:24]My friend, well, not really a friend, [Victim Name Redacted], told me in class that she could find a way of making money.
[1:34]And I was like, for Christmas, so you should be able to make money.
[1:37]And yes, I did.
[1:38]And she said that if I ever told anybody, she'd beat my ass.
[1:43]And so I didn't even know what she was talking about, but I was like, okay.
[1:47]She said she just goes to an old guy's house or a place where old guys are and then you just massage them for like 25 minutes and you get like 200 hours.
[1:56]And so she picked me up after work.
[1:59]We went down there.
[2:01]Right before we got in there, she was like, oh, he might ask you to pick up your shirt or something.
[2:06]But I didn't think anything of it.
[2:07]So I said okay.
[2:09]And then I went in this house.
[2:13]A lady escorted me up to a room, had a bed on it.
[2:18]Okay.
[2:19]Let me back you up for a second.
[2:20]You said this was right before Christmas.
[2:21]Christmas of last year or the year before?
[2:23]Last year.
[2:24]Last year.
[2:25]So it was December of 2004, right?
[2:27]Mm-hmm.
[2:28]Okay.
[2:29]How old were you then?
[2:30]I think.
[2:31]And then I went up there.
[2:39]He was on the phone and he just told me to massage his feet.
[2:41]So I went over here and did it.
[2:42]He gave us lessons and everything and then.
[2:43]Okay.
[2:44]Hold on for one second.
[2:45]Hold on.
[2:46]Yeah.
[2:47]Take me from when you got to the house in Palm Beach.
[2:48]First of all, do you remember the name of the street?
[2:49]You said it before but I just can't remember it.
[2:50]Okay.
[2:51]Do you remember any specifics of the house?
[2:52]I know where it is if I were to go back.
[2:53]I could find it.
[2:54]Okay.
[2:56]It was at the end on the left side.
[2:57]The end on the left side?
[2:58]Okay.
[2:59]Do you remember the car?
[3:04]Yeah.
[3:05]I remember the car.
[3:06]I remember the car.
[3:07]I remember the car.
[3:08]I remember the car.
[3:09]I remember the car.
[3:10]I remember the car.
[3:11]I remember the car.
[3:12]I remember the car.
[3:13]I remember the car.
[3:14]Yeah.
[3:15]Okay.
[3:16]And you had to go to the left side?
[3:22]Okay.
[3:23]Do you remember the color of the house?
[3:24]And we did speak once before.
[3:25]Yolanda?
[3:33]Okay.
[3:34]Do you go to the front door?
[3:35]Do you go to the garage?
[3:36]No.
[3:37]You go through a side gate.
[3:38]You have to knock on the back door kind of.
[3:39]And a lady walks to like what's the name of the lady there.
[3:40]Okay.
[3:41]What's the lady saying?
[3:44]Do you know?
[3:45]No.
[3:46]I think she's the maid because she's like holding a pallet.
[3:51]Yeah.
[3:52]Yeah.
[3:53]She's holding a pallet.
[3:54]Yeah, right.
[3:54]Yeah.
[3:55]and she was bringing them upstairs.
[3:57]Do you know her? Can you describe her?
[3:59]She might be a Spanish lady.
[4:01]When you walked in, there was food on the table,
[4:10]their afternoon food.
[4:12]And, um, you waited a couple minutes.
[4:15]I guess she was in another session.
[4:17]I don't know.
[4:18]Because, like, a girl walked out before I walked in,
[4:22]and this really pretty lady.
[4:24]She walked in with two ladies.
[4:27]And, um, they looked like they were kind of models or something.
[4:31]And they had, like, blonde, long hair.
[4:34]And one of them came down and told me I could go upstairs and follow her.
[4:39]And as we were walking up the stairs, she told me what was going to happen.
[4:43]Like, um, well, he's going to have some rations on,
[4:47]and he'll probably be on the phone for a little while.
[4:53]Okay.
[4:54]Was that a blonde lady with the long hair taking you upstairs?
[4:57]Yeah.
[4:59]How'd she take you upstairs?
[5:04]Big staircase, little staircase.
[5:08]It went into, like, a living room.
[5:10]It was in the kitchen and then a living room.
[5:12]And turned right.
[5:14]Then it was, like, a staircase kind of, like, I guess it's kind of, like, spiral.
[5:18]Okay.
[5:22]And then she took you to where?
[5:25]It kind of looked like a bathroom, but there was no toilets.
[5:28]There was a cold room.
[5:31]And it had, like, a sauna in there.
[5:34]Okay.
[5:35]A big sauna.
[5:37]Just a table where he was going to lie on.
[5:40]A place where he could wash his hands.
[5:43]And it just kind of looked like it was a room for that.
[5:46]Okay.
[5:55]Turn the lights off.
[5:59]He was on the phone.
[6:00]He was like, uh-oh, there's rations in here.
[6:02]You can start rubbing my feet.
[6:05]So put some rations, rub his feet.
[6:09]And then he told me to rub his calves, his legs or whatever.
[6:14]And then, um, no, then he wanted me to rub his thighs.
[6:22]Yeah.
[6:23]Started up top.
[6:24]And then he kept asking me to go lower and lower.
[6:26]And he still had the towel on at this point.
[6:29]And then when I got, like, right where his, um, right above his, like, butt.
[6:34]Like, kind of right above here.
[6:36]Um, he, like, flipped over.
[6:39]And he just told me to, like, start rubbing, like, his stomach and stuff like that and his chest.
[6:47]And then he told me, he was like, why don't you just pick up your feet?
[6:52]Why don't you just pick up your shirt, perhaps?
[6:55]I was like, so I did that.
[6:59]And then.
[7:00]You had your shirt and pants on when you were rubbing his feet, his calves?
[7:04]Yeah.
[7:05]Okay.
[7:06]You had to rub your pants and shirt.
[7:10]And then, like, he got more into everything and took off his towel.
[7:15]Okay.
[7:16]And I, I didn't, I didn't, like, really know why he did that.
[7:19]But, and then he, he was, he was kind of talking to me.
[7:25]Like, trying to get to know me.
[7:26]About, like, my sex life.
[7:27]He was like, oh, you're such a beautiful girl.
[7:29]He was like, well, what do you like when you have sex?
[7:32]And I, I didn't even really answer him.
[7:34]I was like, well, I don't really like to be anyone.
[7:37]I think I'm a shy person.
[7:39]And he was like, oh, but you're so beautiful.
[7:41]He kept saying that for some reason.
[7:43]All right.
[7:44]Let me stop you for a second.
[7:45]When he took off his towel, was he completely naked?
[7:46]Mm-hmm.
[7:47]Okay.
[7:48]And you were, and you were in, in bra and panties?
[7:50]Mm-hmm.
[7:51]Okay.
[7:52]Um, take me from there.
[7:56]So he took off his towel.
[7:57]He's telling you how beautiful you are.
[7:58]And he told me, he told me to rub his nipples.
[8:03]He like, he was like, oh, just like pincer him or something.
[8:08]And I was like, okay.
[8:11]And then he had one hand, he, like, tried, like, rubbing on my chest.
[8:23]And then he like, I had the middle of my bra with the snap-off part.
[8:28]And he like snapped it off.
[8:30]And he was trying to say my name.
[8:32]And, um, I don't know.
[8:33]And then he grabbed my side, and he was jacking himself off at the same time.
[8:42]And then he went down to my vagina.
[8:52]We've heard it all.
[8:52]My side, yeah.
[8:54]And he didn't take off my panties, but he pushed it to the side.
[8:59]And he was like staring on my head.
[9:00]He was like, don't worry, don't worry.
[9:01]I'm not going to go in there.
[9:03]And I was like, that's so weird anyway.
[9:06]And then he started rubbing down there.
[9:10]And then he kept, like, talking dirty.
[9:13]He was like, oh, I couldn't feel so hard and stuff.
[9:17]And I was back to work.
[9:19]At any time did you tell him no, or you told him you're not comfortable with him?
[9:23]I said, I was back to work, and I said, I was like, well, I don't know if I should do that.
[9:29]And I was like, they're very hesitant and so scared that I don't know what to do.
[9:33]It's kind of like you just want to get it over with to get it over with.
[9:38]Yeah.
[9:38]And he was so tense.
[9:42]I guess that's why he was saying that.
[9:44]And then he actually stuck his fingers in me, and I backed away again.
[9:49]He was like, don't worry, don't worry.
[9:50]And he was like, okay, I'm sorry.
[9:52]And then he went back to the outside, and he just started ripping himself off.
[9:59]And then finally he finished himself, wrapped up his towel, and said there's $200 on the counter.
[10:08]And then there's an extra $100.
[10:10]He's from Rwanda.
[10:11]He's like, I'd like to see you again.
[10:14]I was like, yeah, I don't know.
[10:16]Okay.
[10:17]And he's going to bring you back to when he snapped off your bra.
[10:22]When he snapped it off, did you take it off, or did he slip it off you?
[10:27]Or did you just have it on, and it was just hanging?
[10:29]Yeah, it was just hanging.
[10:31]He snapped it off, and it was just right here.
[10:33]Okay.
[10:34]At any time did he touch your bra?
[10:36]Yeah.
[10:37]Okay.
[10:39]Okay, so you're standing there.
[10:44]You're brought, you're not snapped.
[10:46]What kind of panties did you have on?
[10:48]Do you remember?
[10:48]A thong.
[10:49]A thong?
[10:50]Touching you on the outside of your panties, or did he move your panties to one side?
[11:01]On the outside first, and then he moved them over.
[11:06]Okay.
[11:07]And then he started touching you on the outside of your vagina?
[11:13]Mm-hmm.
[11:14]And he told you he was not going to go inside?
[11:16]Yeah.
[11:17]At what point did that change?
[11:21]When he sped.
[11:23]Yeah, when he was down there, and then he went, put his fingers on you.
[11:27]Okay, when you say fingers, did he use more than one finger?
[11:32]Two.
[11:38]And then after I told him, I backed away, and I was just kind of shaking my head no.
[11:45]He was like, okay, I'm sorry.
[11:47]And then he kind of still put his fingers down there, and he was just pushing really hard on me.
[11:55]I don't know.
[11:56]He was just still, like, his fingers weren't in me, but he was still, like, close enough to where it still felt weird.
[12:02]How did you, how did, um, when he had his fingers inside you, you backed off to get him out, or?
[12:09]Yeah.
[12:09]I didn't want to do that.
[12:12]Okay.
[12:14]And none of this was told to you by Ilana that this would happen?
[12:17]No.
[12:20]That's why when I got out, I was waking up, and I didn't even say anything to her.
[12:24]And then she asked me what happened, and I told her what happened, and she said, oh, it's okay.
[12:29]He's been in one of my other friends that I've got here.
[12:32]And I was like, can you let him do that?
[12:34]She said, not me, huh?
[12:36]She's like, oh, it's okay.
[12:37]You get $200.
[12:38]Does it matter?
[12:39]I was like, did you have to do that?
[12:40]She said, no.
[12:42]And I was like, right, but you don't know how I feel.
[12:45]She said, let's just stop him.
[12:47]And I was like, no.
[12:49]During this time that he was carrying, he was, what does that mean to you?
[13:06]I mean, what does that mean to you?
[13:12]Do you know what the definition of masturbation is?
[13:20]Yeah.
[13:23]Yeah.
[13:27]Did you?
[13:27]Did you, um, what, circumcise and uncircumcise?
[13:42]Then, but I'm not, now, I know what it is.
[13:45]Did you, did you visually see the penis, or?
[13:50]Mm-hmm.
[13:51]Yeah.
[13:51]Would you say it was circumcised or uncircumcised?
[13:54]I think it was circumcised by trying not to look.
[14:04]I was kind of just, like, looking away, because I didn't want to see what was actually happening.
[14:09]Okay.
[14:10]You said that, um, he had finished, um.
[14:15]He came.
[14:15]Okay.
[14:18]Because he, he, like, made a.
[14:20]Big sigh of relief.
[14:22]Like, he had been done, and he just, and dropped like that, and.
[14:27]Do you know where he came on?
[14:30]Was it on the towel?
[14:31]Was it.
[14:32]Um.
[14:32]On himself, on the bed, or?
[14:34]I think it was on the towel.
[14:37]Like, right between his legs.
[14:39]Oh, and I told, I explained to your mom what he did was wrong.
[14:46]Mm-hmm.
[14:47]Okay.
[14:47]Um, just sure you're on that.
[14:52]Okay.
[14:52]At any point, did he ever ask you to leave your cell number, or?
[15:01]No, he didn't, he didn't ask me for anything.
[15:06]Um, I think he asked me my name in the beginning.
[15:12]Did he know your age?
[15:16]I don't think he did.
[15:18]I think he did.
[15:20]That's what he wanted, was like, oh, well, if they asked you how old you are, just say you're 18, but no one asked me how old I was.
[15:29]I thought you had to be a certain age to know how old I was.
[15:32]Do you have any phone moments to ask Tiny?
[15:34]No.
[15:35]That's what I thought it was, like, probably like, about 45 minutes.
[15:53]No.
[16:21]He said, oh, well, I think you're on that day.
[16:25]My secretary will name the number and stuff, and I'd like to see you again, and I don't know.
[16:33]And he's not going to call you again?
[16:35]Uh-uh.
[16:36]How many times will he call you?
[16:37]No.
[16:37]There was another girl that, like, Yolanda split everything with.
[17:13]Like, they were kind of partners in doing that.
[17:16]Who was that?
[17:17]This girl, Vanessa.
[17:19]I'm not, I'm not quite sure.
[17:22]My brother probably knows her, because she's a year older than us.
[17:26]But she...
[17:26]She met up with Publix afterwards, and Yolanda went and gave her some money.
[17:31]I think they had to share the $100 that they did.
[17:35]Because whenever they're bringing new people, they get $100.
[17:38]And then I heard a matter of things at my school, that there was, like, a rumor about this other girl I'd happen to.
[17:44]I was just in danger, and then I ended up getting around to getting to know about me.
[17:48]Do you know who the other girl was?
[17:52]I'm sure if I asked.
[17:53]No, it wouldn't work better.
[17:55]Okay.
[17:56]Did you go to Palm Beach High School?
[18:04]I don't think she knew anything about me.
[18:06]That's right.
[18:07]Like, the questions he was asking you, and trying to get to know you, what kind of questions do you mean?
[18:11]Other than the sexual questions.
[18:14]Um, I was just asking what school I went to.
[18:21]Because he was just asking me, like, oh, so how are you today?
[18:25]He was, you know, good at massaging, very think about going into business.
[18:30]I was like, yeah, that'd be cool.
[18:33]And, um, he said he asked me, he said, do you have a boyfriend?
[18:38]What do you do for fun?
[18:40]Um, pretty much.
[18:44]Like, oh, do you, it is kind of weird, you know, if I'm, like, an older guy.
[18:51]He was like, oh, so do you like to, how do you like to have sex?
[18:55]And stuff like that.
[18:57]He was like, do you like it when, people, uh-oh.
[19:00]He was like, do you like it when people, like, touch boobs and the size of boobs?
[19:05]And I was like, no, I don't, I don't really like it when people touch my body.
[19:09]Because I'm fine.
[19:11]And I, because it feels good.
[19:12]I don't want anyone to touch my boobs anyway.
[19:17]He was really asking me, like, what are his nipples?
[19:32]He's like, oh, that's just a good idea.
[19:34]Was he in good shape?
[19:48]Was he in glob or was he?
[19:49]He was, you could tell he was old, but he wasn't, like, muscular or anything like that.
[19:55]He looked like a regular old guy.
[20:02]Mm-mm.
[20:03]Does this tell who you are?
[20:08]No, that's right.
[20:09]I don't know who you're talking about.
[20:12]I heard, I guess I heard that name from Yolanda.
[20:17]And then his dad, I don't think.
[20:22]I don't think Nate found his name or anything.
[20:24]Yeah, I know.
[20:25]I know.
[20:26]To conclude this statement, the time on my watch is 5.25 p.m.
[20:55]We'll be right back.