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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
CASE NO. 08-CIV-80893 MARR/JOHNSON
JANE DOE,
Plaintiff,
vs.
Jeffrey Epstein,
Defendant.
Tuesday, June 15, 2010
4:06 p.m.
SWORN STATEMENT OF Maritza Vasquez
Taken before ELAINE CRANDALL, Registered
Professional Reporter and Notary Public in and for
the State of Florida at Large, pursuant to Notice
of Taking Unsworn Statement in the above cause.
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Thereupon--
Maritza Vasquez
was called as a witness by the Plaintiff and,
after having been first duly sworn, was examined
and testified as follows:
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. EDWARDS:
Q.    Tell us your name.
A.   Maritza Vasquez.
10       Q.    And just to the get to the point, you
11   know who Jeffrey Epstein is?
12       A.    Yes.
13       Q.    And you've met him before?
14       A.    Yes.
15       Q.    And you know who Jean-Luc Brunel is?
16       A.    Yes.
17       Q.    And you have met him before?
18       A.    Yes.
19       Q.    Which one did you meet first?
20       A.    Jean-Luc Brunel.
21       Q.    And where did you meet him?
22       A.    In Miami Beach.
23       Q.    When?
24       A.    In 1998.
25       Q.    And how?
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1           A.      In his office.
2           Q.      Related to what; modeling?
3           A.      Working, yeah.      Modeling.
4           Q.      What, at that point in time, did you
S   know about Jean-Luc Brunel?
A.      Nothing.   At that time I didn't know
7   anything.
8       Q.          So how did you meet with Jean-Luc Brunel
9   in his office in 1998?
10           A.      Because there was a gentleman from
11   Switzerland who wanted to make business with them.
12   And I was hired by that gentleman to look through
13   all the accounts to make sure that -- you know,
14   they were kind of in bankruptcy.            But he wanted to
15   know that his money, his investment, would be
16   good.        So that's why I went.     Like, an external
17   audit to do -- to see what was the income, the
18   expenses and something like that.
19       Q.          Who is the guy from Switzerland?
20       A.          I'm not going to tell you his name.
21       Q.         Is that somebody who is still in touch
22   with Jean-Luc Brunel?
23           A.      No.   Not at all.
24       Q.         What's the reason for not wanting to
25   disclose his name?         Does he have anything to do
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1   with this case?
2        A.   No.     But I don't have permission.   I
3   have to ask him.
4        Q.   Okay.    And after your meeting with
5   Jean-Luc Brunel in 1998 -- well, what company was
6   Jean-Luc Brunel with then?
7        A.   Karin's Models, it was, at that time.
8        Q.   K-A-R-I-N?
9        A.   Yes.
10        Q.   And is that the only other modeling
11   agency that you have known Jean-Luc Brunel to be
12   associated with, besides MC Squared?
13        A.   Yes.
14       Q.    And how long was Jean-Luc with Karin,
15   from 1998 through --
16        A.   No, Jean-Luc was the owner of Karin's.
17   Before that.    I think since 1986, in Paris.
18       Q.    All right.    And why was he no longer
19   affiliated with Karin at some point in time?
20        A.   He closed -- he -- how you say -- he
21   made a dissolution.    He dissolved the company.
22       Q•    Were you ever hired to work with Karin?
23        A.   I was hired to work with Karin's, yeah.
24       Q.    When was that?
25       A.    In 1998.
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1        Q.         What was your position?
2           A.      At that time, bookkeeper.
3        Q.         In Miami?
4           A.      Yes.
5        Q.        And how long did you stay as the
6   bookkeeper in Miami for Karin?
7           A.      Until 2003, when they changed the
8   company to MC Squared.
9        Q.        So when did the official change come
10   from Karin to MC Squared?
11           A.      In 2003.
12        Q.        And when is the first time you met
13   Jeffrey Epstein?
14        A.         I met Jeffrey Epstein only once in my
15   life.        And I believe it was in 2003.   Two
16   thousand -- yeah, by the end of 2003, 2004.
17       Q.         Where?
18        A.         In New York.
19       Q.         What was the occasion?
20       A.          It was the open party for MC Squared.
21       Q.         Where was that held?
22        A.        In a discotheque in Manhattan.
23       Q.         What discotheque?
24       A.         I don't know.   I don't remember.
25       Q.         And did you meet Elaine Maxwell?
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A.     I don't know her name.    But he was
with -- with a woman.     I don't know.
Q.     And what is your understanding or what
was your understanding that Jeffrey -- in terms of
Jeffrey Epstein's involvement with MC Squared?
A.     Jean-Luc always said that Jeffrey was
his friend, that he is a millionaire.      And that
Jeffrey was giving him the money to -- you know,
loans or whatever -- and the apartments for the
10   girls and things like that.
11        Q.     All right.   Let's break that down.
12   Giving money for what purpose?     For furthering MC
13   Squared?
14        A.     For -- for -- yeah, the money came to MC
15   Squared, not to -- I don't know.      Prior to 2003, I
16   don't know if Jeffrey Epstein ever gave him money.
17   I know that from the longest Jean-Luc was living
15   in an apartment that belongs to Jeffrey Epstein.
19        Q.     What apartment is that?
20        A.     It's in New York.   I don't know the
21   address.
22        Q.     Is that a
23        A.     Yeah, something like that.    I think it's
24   that one.
25               And it's my understanding that Jeffrey
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Epstein owns or controls numerous apartments in
that -- at that same address; is that right?
A.    Yes.    Yes.
Q.    And have you ever been to that address?
A.    No.
Q.    And how do you know that he owns or
controls numerous apartments at that address?
A.    Because at that time Evelyn Valenzeula
was the office manager of the new and she was
10   dealing personally with the assistant of Jeffrey
11   Epstein.   And she had to do the payments for the
12   cable and, I believe, electricity.
13        Q.    And Evelyn -- who was the assistant of
14   Jeffrey Epstein that Evelyn was dealing with?
15        A.    I don't know.
16        Q.
17        A.    I believe so.
18        Q.    Do you remember that name?
19        A.    Yes.
20       Q.     That's somebody who no longer lives
21   here, right?
22        A.           I believe I heard that, yeah.
23        Q.    Who did you hear that from?
24        A.    From Evelyn, from Conetta (phonetic),
25   from --
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1         Q.    Okay.   And at some point in time you
2    came to know that the models were also staying in
3    these apartments atINEMIEIMMII              right?
4         A.   I don't know specifically they stay at
5    Jean-Luc's apartment.   But I know that the models
6    were staying in different apartments that belong
7    to Jeffrey Epstein.
8         Q.   And what are the names of the models
9    that were staying there, that you remember?
10         A.   Most of them.   You know, at that time,
11    when I was there who -- all the little girls.
12
1.3        Q.   How do you spell that?
14         A.                   I -- you know, that was in
15    2000-something.   I don't recall all the names.
16    But there is a list that you can get it from the
17    office in New York.
18         Q.   A list --
19         A.   They have a list of models that they
20    were staying in those apartments.
21         Q.   If I were to request it from the office
22    in New York, what would I ask for?
23         A.   For the models' apartment list.
24    Chargeback for models apartments.
25         Q.   Chargeback?
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1        A.      Yeah, because Jeffrey Epstein never
2   charged Jean-Luc for rent but Jean-Luc was
3   charging rent to the girls.       And in her statements
4   it shows .                                            And
5   he was charging them, like, a thousand dollars a
6   month.
7        Q.      How do you know that?
8        A.      Because I was doing the statements.
9        Q.      You were actually the one doing the
10   statements?
11        A.      Not all the time.    I was in New York
12   starting 2003.
13        Q.      Through what date?    You were in New York
14   from 2003 to --
15        A.      2006.
16        Q.      And while you were in New York you were
17   working for MC Squared?
18        A.      Yes.
19       Q.       And what is the proof that you have seen
20   that Jeffrey Epstein was a partner or financial
21   supporter of MC Squared?
22       A.       I was the one who took the papers to
23   Mellon Bank.
24       Q.       That's in Miami?
25       A.       Yes.    And Swetpaul (phonetic) -- I was
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1   talking at the time to Rich -- I believe his name
2   was Rich Gany.       That was one of the other
3   assistants of Jeffrey Epstein.
4       Q.      Gany, G-A-N-Y?
5        A.      Yeah.
6       Q.      Do they call him Eric Gany?
7        A.     That is him name, yeah, Eric Gany.
8   That's his name.       I recall some things, not all
9   the time.     I recall that Mr. Epstein didn't want
10   to sign the papers, but Mellon Bank didn't want to
11   accept the Line of Credit if he didn't sign.      So
12   we had to return the papers to New York so he
13   actually signed the documents.
14       Q•      And what was he actually signing, that
15   you remember?    Signing over as a Line of Credit
16   or --
17        A.     As a line -- as the grantor of the Line
18   of Credit.     Because the Line of Credit came from
19   J. P. Morgan directly, but he was the grantor.         He
20   was the one who actually was responsible.
21       Q.      And how much was the Line of Credit?
22        A.     A million dollars, it was, at that time.
23       Q.      And did you ever keep track of whether
24   or not that line was extended or any additional
25   monies were given to MC Squared?
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A.    No, I don't know.
Q.    So in addition to his financial
guarantor on the Line of Credit of a million
dollars, what other involvement are you aware of
that Jeffrey Epstein had with MC Squared and/or
the apartments at                       where the
models lived?
A.    They were planning on buying or
associating with a girl in -- in France for a
10   for a company.   They were planning to do a
11   company.   And, actually, I gave the paper to -- to
12   Mr. Shawn Connolly, which is an actual paper that
13   came from the office from Jeffrey Epstein, that he
14   was giving instructions to Jean-Luc saying that he
15   wanted to have the same contracts as -- uh, what's
16   his name, of Donald Trump, and that he wanted to
17   have the same kind of benefits for the scouters.
18              So he was giving instructions to
19   Jean-Luc on what to do, what to -- there is a
20   woman in Paris, I don't recall her name, Frelit
21   (phonetic), I believe it was, and they were --
22   they were, the three of them, trying to do a new
23   company.   But then everything was, like, on zero.
24   They never -- they never did it together.
25       Q.     And do you know why?
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1          A.   No.
2          Q.   Would you know the lady's name in Paris
3   if I --
4          A.   If you give it to me, yeah.    If you give
5   me the name, I can recall.
6          Q•   Okay.    While I'm looking for that, how
7   many girls that were models were living in the
8   apartments at any given time at
9   Imo?
10          A.   That's -- that's not only one apartment.
11   There are a lot of apartments there.      There is not
12   only one girl.      There is not only one apartment.
13   I believe there were, like, two or three
14   apartments.    And they were put in between four
15   girls per apartment, I believe.
16          Q•   How many apartments?
17          A.   I believe there were, like, two or
18   three.
19       Q.      And there is four girls per apartment?
20          A.   Yeah.
21       Q.      And you know that because you saw the
22   documentation at MC Squared that showed where
23   these girls were living?
24       A.      Yes.
25       Q•      Did you also have something to do with
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the visas that were prepared for the girls that
were working?
A.      Yes.   I was providing the names to the
attorney.        His name is Luis Font.    He was doing
the visas here in Miami.        There was another --
Valenzuela was handling directly the visas in New
York.        And only when she had problems, she hired
another attorney.        I don't know the name of the
attorney in New York.        But Luis Font is the --
10   was, at that time, the attorney handling the visas
11   for Miami.
12        Q.        Do you remember doing the visa for
13   fill/1111a
14        A.        No, that was done in New York by Eve
15   Valenzuela.
16        Q.        And          visa, that you specifically
17   remember being done, right?
A.         Yeah, I remember that.    Because at one
19   point, I believe, one of the renovations of her
20   visa, something happened.        And Mr. Epstein called
21   the office while I was there and was really upset.
22   And he spoke with Jean-Luc and they -- they were
23   really nasty with Eve and, you know, it wasn't
24   if -- it wasn't Eve's fault.        It was their fault
25   because they gave the wrong information.          But, you
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1   know, she was only an employee and that's it.
2        Q.      How did                   come into the
3   country?
4        A.      By a model's visa, I believe.
5        Q.      And was she brought in specifically by
6   Jeffrey Epstein or Jean-Luc or do you remember?
7        A.      Mr. Epstein was paying for the visas.
8   But, you know, all the visas were done through --
9   through Karin's or MC Squared.      I believe she came
10   with Karin's visa first, then everything
11   transferred to MC Square.      And I believe those
12   visas were paid directly by Mr. Epstein.
13        Q.      How old was                   when she
14   first came?
15        A.      I don't know.   I wasn't in New York at
16   that time.     Because I know she came prior to me
17   getting involved in New York.
18        Q.    And you were involved in New York in
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20        A.      Yes.
21       Q.     So she came in some time before that?
22        A.    I believe so.
23        Q.    But even back in=        she still -- I
24   don't know how old she is now.     She's probably
25       , right; do you know?
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A.     No.
Q.     Have you ever met her?
A.     No.
Q.     Have you ever met  IMS
(phonetic)?
A.     No.
Q.     You have only met Jeffrey Epstein once
in person.      How many times have you talked to him
on the phone?
10          A.     Maybe once.
11          Q.     At some point in time you drove several
12   girls or a number of girls over to Jeffrey
13   Epstein's house; correct?
14          A.     Not me.    Jean-Luc directly took them.   I
15   was making the arrangements to get a limousine or
16   a car.      And Jean-Luc himself was driving the girls
17   to his house because he was having a party and
18   there were supposed to be girls.
19          Q.    Which girls did he drive over there?
20          A.    One time I know he went with
21   with        uh, what's her name?    Four girls from
22   Brazil, from the same agency.               is one of
23   them because I remember her name.       The other
24   ones -- maybe if you --
25
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1        A.     No.
2        Q.
3        A.     No.
4        Q.    Do you know those two girls?
S        A.     Yes.
6        Q.    And were those girls somehow involved
7   with Jean-Luc or the modeling agency?
8        A.    Yes.
9       Q.     They were both MC Squared models?
10        A.     Yes.
11        Q.    And at the time, when they began, how
12   old were they; do you remember?
13        A.    I believe a         was, like, 14, 15.     And
14             was 13, 14, when she came.
is        Q.    Okay.     And do you know where they are
16   now, either one of them?
17        A.    I know EMI        is in New York.
18        Q.    When is the last time you talked to her?
19        A.    In 2006.
20       Q.     How do you know she is in New York?
21        A.    Because I saw her pictures whenever.        I
22   believe she's in New York.      I don't know if she
23   really is in New York but I believe.
24       Q.
25       A.             , the last time I saw her was in
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1   2006, too.        And, specifically, I don't know where
2    she is.        But if she's in the United States, I
3   believe she's in New York.          If not, she is in
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5        Q•         All right.     Do you know this person in
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7         A.         No.
8         Q.        Here is a document that we obtained
9    related to information from Jeffrey Epstein's
10   computer system.          It says Massage Paris.    It's in
11   a square there and it continues to the next page.
12   Tell me if you recognize any of those names.
13        A.         No.                   is one of the girls
14   that went with                  now that I'm seeing kind of
15   names.                is one of the other ones.    If this is
16             or              something like that, it's a
17   black girl that I believe she was -- she was not
18   underage but she was going out with one of
19   Jeffrey's best friends.
20        Q.        Who is that?
21        A.         I believe --
22        Q.        Who is Jeffrey's best friend that she
23   was going out with?
24        A.        I don't know.     I don't know.
25   something like that, is her name.
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1        Q.   All right.    What information do you have
2   about Jean-Luc being involved with underage girls
3   at any point in time?   And by that I mean being
4   involved sexually with underage girls.
5        A.   One day he told me that he wishes he can
6   sleep with one of those girls that was underage.
7   And I told him that's a minor, whatever.   And
8   then -- hold on, that's my son.
9             (Telephone interruption.)
10        A.   He had a problem, you know.    I cannot
11   say I saw them, look, because I would be lying.
12   And I'm not going to say any lie.    But the only
13   thing that I can tell you that what I saw about
14   Jean-Luc is that Jean-Luc is a               a
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16        Q.   At some point in time you actually saw
17   evidence of that, right?
18        A.   Yes.
19        Q•   I mean, him                 that somebody
20   does every day?
21        A.
22                                -- I know Mr. Epstein
23   doesn't take any alcohol, drugs.    I know that.    I
24   heard that.
25        Q.   How do you know?
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A.   I heard that.    I heard that. I don't
know, because I never met -- I never -- I was
never, like, around him or nothing like that. I'm
just telling you what I heard.    But regarding
Jean-Luc, I know      I know he has that kind of
problem, no?
Q.
II ill'
10        Q.   What about Jeff Fuller?
II        A.
12   He was one time on the Internet, you know, like, a
13   report on that.
14        Q.   And is Jeff Fuller somebody else who you
15   also knew to have been associated sexually with
16   underage girls?
17        A.   Jeff, I -- you know, I don't think Jeff.
18   I always thought Jeff was ill.    For me, he'slIIII
19   You know, that's the impression that I have.      But
20   I don't think so.
21       Q•    Did you find out that Jeffrey Epstein
22   and/or Jean-Luc Brunel were involved in these
23   underage girls that were staying in these
24   apartments at
25        A.   I really don't know that.   You know, I
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1    cannot tell you.       I know there were girls staying
2    there.      I never knew if they were going there or
3    not.
4           Q.    You mean, you knew that the girls were
5    staying there; 13, 14, 15?
6           A.     Some of the girls were underage, yeah.
7           Q.     As well as 13, 14 or so?
8           A.     Thirteen or 14, yeah.
9           Q.     Did you ever ask any of the girls if
10   they were sexually involved with Jean-Luc and/or
11   Jeffrey Epstein?
12          A.     No.    One time there was a problem with
13                 And she was -- I believe she was
14   14 years old.        And she tried to go -- or they took
15   her to a discotheque in Miami Beach.        And when I
16   went to work the day after, they told me that the
17   police was asking.        So since she was doing
18   whatever she wanted, you know, I brought her to my
19   house and I said, you're not going out at night;
20   you're only 13, 14, and that's my responsibility.
21          Q.     Do you know Sergio Cordero?
22          A.     Yes.
23          Q.     And do you know what Sergio's role was
24   in getting girls or something for Jeffrey Epstein?
25          A.     Yeah.    That -- that is something that
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1   Sergio, you know, comment with me.      And he said
2   that when Jeffrey Epstein went to Ecuador,
3   Jean-Luc told me that he has to bring girls and
4   this and that, because Jeffrey was coming to
5   Ecuador.    So they did such a big thing.
6       Q.      Right.   But in terms of bringing girls,
7   specifically girls, that were very young?
8         A.     Yeah, but there was girls from Ecuador.
9   There is nothing you can do there.      It's South
10   America.
11       Q.      I understand that.    I'm not saying
12   whether it was legal or illegal.     I'm just asking
13   you, the direction was that Jean-Luc told
14   Sergio --
15        A.     Not to bring girls.    Never said
16   never -- Sergio knew that they like young girls.
17       Q•      By young, what are we talking about?
18        A.     Eighteen, 19.   Sergio -- you know, I
19   know Sergio.    And more than anything, like, Sergio
20   is a father.    And I don't think he will put his
21   hands on a ten, 11, 12, 13-year-old girl.       You
22   know what I mean?
23       Q•      I'm not asking about him.   Do you know
24   of Jeffrey Epstein being involved with underage
25   girls?
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1        A.      I heard that, yeah.
2        Q.      You heard that through whom?   I don't
3   mean just the newspapers and things like that.        I
4   mean --
5        A.      No.   Through -- through the office.
6   Through Jean-Luc.      Through -- there were
7   conversations of Jean-Luc saying that, you know.
8        Q.      Saying what?
9        A.      That Jeffrey likes underage girls.     And
10   never directly but, you know, his conversations
11   were like that.
12        Q.    Okay.     But, specifically, I just want to
13   know what evidence that we have, what real
14   conversations that you heard, about Jeffrey
15   Epstein liking underage girls.
16        A.      I'm telling you Jean-Luc saying it from
17   his mouth.
18        Q.   Okay.      And, specifically, he says
19   Jeffrey Epstein likes underage girls or he likes
20   12-year-olds or likes what?
21        A.    No, he likes young girls.    When they
22   were talking in the office, there were a lot of
23   people.   So they were not stupid.    They were
24   knowing how to talk.     Because they were making,
25   like, a big thing of, oh, look, he's going out
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1   with               (phonetic), and we knewEMI.       was
2   only 18 years old.      She is a young girl.   So
3   that's the kind of girl he likes.      You know what I
4   mean?
5          Q•   But there is nothing illegal going out
6   with an 18-year-old girl.     And that's what I'm
7   asking.
8          A.   No.
9          Q.   What information do we have that Jeffrey
10   Epstein was involved with underage girls?      I mean,
11   I have a lot of information of my own.     But I'm
12   asking what information do you know.
13          A.   The only thing I heard in the office,
14   that Jean-Luc say it, that they like -- when they
15   say, oh, I wish I could sleep with this girl or
16   the fact that he was taking 15, 16-year-old girls
17   to his house.
18          Q.   Who?
19          A.   I know that because I saw him.
20               Jean-Luc was taking 15-year-old girls to
21   his own place?
22          A.   No, to Jeffrey's house.
23          Q.   To Jeffrey's house?
24          A.   Yes.
25          Q.   And what 15-year-old girls was he taking
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1   to Jeffrey's house?
2           A.     At the time I'm telling you it was         ,
3   lila          I don't know remember the other two
4   girls.       There is two &          girls.   I gave it
5   to you before, the names.        I don't remember right
6   now.
7           Q.     Do you know Leslie Groff?
8           A.     No.
9           Q.    Do you know Khalid Mohammed?
10           A.     Yes.
11          Q.     What did he do?
12           A.     He was a scouter and a booker.
13           Q.    Scouter; what does that mean?
14           A.     Person looking for models.
15          Q.     And how legitimate was
16           A.    Khalid Salaam.
17          Q.     Salaam?
18           A.    Yeah.
19          Q.     Right.    Where was he bringing models in
20   from or looking for models?        Outside the country
21   or --
22          A.     Inside the country.   Very -- not often
23   from outside the country, no, no.        From inside.
24          Q.     Did you ever hear of any of the parties
25   that took place on Jeffrey Epstein's island?
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1        A.   In --
2        Q•   Little St. James?
3        A.   One New Year's, I believe -- that was,
4   like, 2004, 2005, that New Year's -- they were
5   having a party there.
6        Q.   Who was having a party there?
7        A.   Mr. Epstein.
0        Q.   And who was at the party that you know?
A.   I know Jean-Luc was there.   But then --
10   specifically, I don't know if Jean-Luc stay there,
11   because what I do recall is that, during those
12   days, there was, like, December 30 or 29,
13   something like that, Jean-Luc call me from Puerto
14   Rico that he was doing the scouting and he --
15   actually, he was the one who told me that he had
16   to go to Jeffrey's island because they were having
17   the party there for New Year's.
18       Q.    What other girls do you know of that
19   were at that party?
20        A.   I don't know.
21       Q.    Do you know of any of the other people
22   that were at that party?
23       A.    No.
24       Q.    Just Jean-Luc and Epstein?
25       A.    Yes.
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1           Q.   The last time that we talked, I have
2    just the investigative report, which basically was
3    just typed up from the things that you said.       It
4    was written that Ms.a            advised that she,
5    herself, submitted the documents to renew
6    foreign visa on at least two occasions.
7           A.   No, not me.   It was Evelyn Valenzeula.
8    I never did her visa.     That visa was done by
9    Evelyn in New York.
10           Q.   When is the first time that you learned
1.1   that                      was involved with Jeffrey
12    Epstein?
13           A.   I believe in III/.    After I was out of
14    the company.
15           Q.   You didn't know, when you were in the
16    company, that they were involved?
17           A.   No.
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17       Q.    The last time, I have a lot of other
18   notes about some of the models that were being
19   brought in and signing visas, as if they were
20   going to work here, but really they were living in
21   the apartment and didn't really do any modeling
22   work.
23        A.   Yeah, that is true.   That is true.   I
24   told you that.    Many, many girls were coming here.
25   Many girls were coming here first without a visa,
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without a working visa.     Most of the girls, they
were coming in to the States as tourists.     They
were working -- whenever they work, they were
collecting 30 percent from their income when they
were not even legal.     They didn't even have a
Social Security or nothing but they never pay it.
Neither to the government, neither to the girls,
you know.    And within the time, I believe Jean-Luc
start getting pressure from Mr. Epstein that he
10   didn't want to get in trouble and he put some
11   pressure on Jean-Luc.    So he wanted all the girls
12   to have a visa.     So they start working on the
13   visas of the girls.
14        Q.     Okay.
15        A.     And they were making, like, contracts or
16   things like that.     Because, prior to that, they
17   didn't have it.     Prior to that, when Jean-Luc --
18   prior to Jean-Luc getting the money from
19   Mr. Epstein, Jean-Luc was doing whatever he
20   wanted.
21        Q.     Okay.
22        A.     And later, you know, Mr. Epstein put the.
23   money that he had to start taking, you know, all
24   the invoices from Mr. Epstein.
25               Does Jeffrey Epstein know that Jean-Luc
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1.   is a
2           A.   I   don't know.   I don't even know that
3    Mr. Epstein knows that Jean-Luc lied to him all
4    the time.    Because when he -- when I gave the Line
5    of Credit to Jean-Luc, Jean-Luc presented false
6    statements to him.      You know, Mr. Epstein wanted
7    to see that the company was a profitable company
8     and we had to hide all those numbers.        And we had
9    to give him, like, positive numbers so he can see
10    that the company was making money but in belief
11    always was in red.
12           Q.   What do you mean by that?    Jeffrey
13    Epstein said, hey, I'm going to give you money as
14    long as the company is positive?
15           A.   Yeah.    Mr. Epstein wanted to see -- I
16    believe -- I believe, since he's a very successful
17    person moneywise, he was not stupid to put his
18    money, even though he knew he was able to get
19    girls or whatever, you know, if that was the case.
20    But deep inside he wanted to see if these people
21    really -- if this company was profitable for him
22    to put a million dollars.
23                So maybe Eric Gany, at the time, was one
24    of his advisors.     And they wanted to see the
25    profit and loss statements and, you know, the
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balance book or whatever.
I told you the name of the accountant
that you could go and took all those papers, you
know, make a subpoena or whatever, of Richard
Fernandez, that he could give you all the
information, 1998, '99, 2000, after 2005, that he
did everything and you could see the company was
always in red, always.
Q.    So the company wasn't profitable but
10   Jean-Luc falsified documents to show to Jeffrey
11   Epstein?
12        A.    Yes.
13        Q.    And have you seen the real documents and
14   the falsified documents?
15        A.    Yes.
16        Q.    So you know that they were falsified?
17        A.    Yes.
18       Q.     Is it your understanding that Jeffrey
19   Epstein is still involved, from a financial
20   aspect, in MC Squared?
21        A.    I believe so.   Because, as far as I
22   know, the Line of Credit wasn't paid.   The million
23   dollars wasn't paid.
24       Q•     And Jean-Luc and Jeffrey Epstein are
25   still friends?
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1        A.      Yes.    Jean-Luc is still living in
2    Jeffrey Epstein's apartment in New York.
3        Q.      How do you know that?
4        A.     Well, because -- because I know.
5       Q.      From Evelyn?
6        A.     Yes.
7        Q.     Is Evelyn still working for MC Squared?
B        A.     No.
Q.     Do you know who is working for MC
10   Squared?
11        A.     It was working until not too long ago a
12   very -- Evelyn's goddaughter, Jobelin, she was
13   working there.
14        Q.     How do you spell it?
15        A.     J-O-B-E-L-I-N.
16        Q.     Okay.    Anybody else?
17        A.     In Europe?
18        Q.     Yea, or here.
19        A.     No, that was related to Eve?     No,
20   Evelyn -- Jobelin.
21        Q.     Who works in the MC Squared office here?
22        A.     Here, I knew other things, because
23   Amanda Grant and -- I gave you her name more than
24   one time.    Amanda was working with them until
25   2008.     And she got a lot of information.    And she
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1    wanted -- you know, she call -- I arrange she call
2    Immigration, because they screw her.        And,
3    actually, they made her leave the company because
4   she has --                                         .   And
they were giving her a lot of bad -- bad time.
6              (Telephone interruption.)
7        Q.      How do you spell her name, Amanda Grand,
8   G-R-A-N-D?
9        A.      N-T.    Amanda Grant.
10        Q.      And do you know her address, phone
11   number; something like that?
12        A.      I have -- you can get it in Facebook.
13   She's in Facebook.       Amanda Grant.
14        Q•      Do you have it?
15        A.      Not in this phone.      My other phone broke
16   so I don't.     I can get it for you, if you want.
17        Q.      Yeah, I would appreciate it.
18        A.      Yeah.
19                Amanda had also the information of
20   monies, as I told you before, that took monies
21   that they were transferred to the British Virgin
22   Islands.
23        Q.      Monies transferred to the British Virgin
24   Islands?
25        A.      Yes.
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4•      From what account to what?
A.     Jean-Luc opened an account there because
Jeffrey told him that it was better to open an
account there.      So there was money -- like, for
example, if the monies were going to Manuel Cruz
to do a shoot or something, Jean-Luc was
negotiating with the girls and say, okay, if you
go to do the sunny photos, I give you $2,000 cash,
no reports, whatever.
10               So Jean-Luc had -- as billing that
11   company from another company, or from the British
12   Virgin Islands.      So he was neither paying taxes
13   here and maybe he was making $20,000 on that
14   shooting and he was giving the girl only $2,000
15   and that money never came to be reported here.
16        Q.     Okay.    Other than you saying that you
17   know that a 15-year-old or so went to Jean-Luc's
18   house with him, how else do we know that Jean-Luc
19   and/or Jeffrey Epstein, I'm more concerned with
20   Jeffrey Epstein, were involved sexually with
21   underage girls?
22        A.     How do I know?    I -- I -- I cannot tell
23   you that I saw -- that I was there because that's
24   not true.    I never saw anything.
25        Q.     Right.    But sometimes you just know?
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1        A.    Yeah, sometimes -- and that's -- that's
2    what I can tell you.      I know because -- I can tell
3    you about Jean-Luc, that I know because I met him
4    for ten years.    Okay?    I can put my hands on fire
5    and I can tell you that he did it.      About Jean-Luc
6    I can say it.    I don't know about Mr. Epstein
7   because I was never -- I met him once in my life.
8    I saw him once in my life.      And after that, when I
9   saw him, was in the newspapers; that's it.
10        Q.   And, otherwise, you just heard that
11   Jeffrey Epstein likes underage girls?
12        A.   Underage girls, yeah.
13        Q.   And there was a time where Sergio
14   well, I've talked to Sergio, so I'll talk to him
15   about whatever the Ecuador trip was.
16        A.   Yes.
17        Q.   All right.      Do you know of this company,
18   COUQ --
19        A.   No.
20        Q.   -- Foundation.      All right.   Do you know
21   of somebody by the name of Gypsy, G-Y-P-S-Y?
22        A.   No.
23        Q.   Somebody who provided Jeffrey Epstein
24   girls?
25        A.   No.
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1        Q.   How about Jileta (phonetic)?
2        A.   No.
3        Q.   Never heard that name?
4        A.   No.
5        Q•
6        A.   I believe I heard that name.     But I --
7        Q.   She works up in New York and I believe
8   she works for Jeffrey Epstein in some capacity.
9   Do you know what that is?
10        A.   I believe so.     No.
11        Q.   Okay.
12        A.   The person who can tell you that is Eve.
13   Because Eve was very involved with Jeffrey
14   Epstein's office.
15        Q•   What is Eve's number again?
16        A.
17        Q.   Do you know Jojo Fontanella?
18        A.   No.
19        Q.   No?     Other than Jean-Luc, what other
20   people that are friends with Jean-Luc share this
21   interest in underage girls, that you know of?
22        A.   No.
23        Q.   I mean, who are his friends?    Who are
24   the guys he hangs out with?
25        A.   Jeff.    When he was in Miami, Jeff,
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Corrado.
Q.     Who is Corrado?
A.     A friend of Jean-Luc.   An Italian guy.
They were always like that, Corrado and Luc.          I
met Jean-Luc's friends in Ecuador, like people
that had to be -- people that they were involved
with modeling agencies in Europe, in South
America, but very different people, very different
people.    I met some people from France.     Pero,
10   really, even if they were guys or whatever,
11   gentlemen.     You know, like, very proper people.
12   Like, from Brazil, too.    And the womans, you know.
13         Q.     How about Simon Parra; you know who that
14   is?
15         A.    Simon Parra, yeah.
16         Q.     How do you know him?
17         A.    I met him through Jean-Luc.
18         Q.   And what's his story?
19         A.    Mr. Parra was a very good friend of the
20   office.    I cannot say of Jean-Luc because he was
21   only a friend of him.    He was a very good friend
22   of the office, because Mr. Parra is a gentleman.
23   He was lending money to the office.       Whenever I
24   requested, he always gave it to me for the office.
25   You know, that I signed -- I had to sign papers
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1   for him or whatever, to -- to do the payrolls or
2   whatever.    But Mr. Parra is a guy that he likes to
3   be surrounded by girls.     But not underage girls.
4        Q.     Okay.   What was Jeffrey Epstein getting
5   out of MC Squared?
6        A.     The only thing that I can think he was
7   getting was the girls.     Nothing else.    Because he
has all the money.
9        Q.     And the company wasn't making money
10   anyway?
11        A.     No.
12        Q.     And you know the company wasn't making
13   money?
14        A.     It wasn't at all.   At all.    So the only
15   thing that he was -- I believe that he wanted to
16   get involved was because of the girls, that's it.
17   Pero, he wanted to do it legally, like, girls
18   coming here, even if they were underage or
19   whatever, with visas.
20        Q•     Because the modeling industry is one of
21   those industries where there is a lot of girls
22   underage coming in the country, right?
23        A.     Yes.
24       Q.      That's pretty easy access to underage
25   girls?
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1           A.      Yes.
2           Q.      And they come in the country and they
3   don't have their parents?
4           A.      Yes.
5           Q.      So they don't really have any parental
6   supervision while they're here?
A.      Not at all.
8           Q.      So the modeling industry is one that
9   some guys use that to get underage girls and
10   that's happened for a long time, really, right?
11           A.      Yes.
12           Q•      So is that what Jean-Luc Brunel still
13   does?
14           A.      Yes.
15           Q.     Still uses it to get underage girls to
16   sleep with, really, right?
17           A.      Yes.
18       Q•         And Jeffrey Epstein, too?
19           A.     I cannot tell you that because I don't
20   know.        I know if there is -- there is kind of a
21   relationship, I believe they will or he will.           You
22   know, he still does it.        But I don't know.   I
23   cannot tell you because I was never -- I was
24   never -- what I can say that I know, because I was
25   with that person for the longest, was with
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1   Jean-Luc.        The same thing that I can tell you,
2   that even if he has a daughter, whatever, I put my
3   hands on fire that Jeff Fuller isle
4        Q.        Okay.    And Jean-Luc, you saw him=
5                at work?
6           A.     Not in the office.     But sometimes he was
7   coming to the office, like,
8                                           that he had to go,
9   oh, you go and clean yourself or whatever, you
10   know.
11           Q.     Would he talk about his EMII
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13           A.      Not directly, but it was a box properly,
14   everyone knew about that.          And he was the one --
15   the kind of person who didn't feel ashamed to
16   tell.        For example, Sergio was there and I was
17   here and he was there and he was, like, Sergio, go
18   and get me the best one, you know.          And Sergio was
19   going and getting it for him.
20        Q.        So he didn't really hide the fact that
21   he
22           A.      No.   No.   But not in the office, not in
23   front of the bookers.
24        Q.        Where is the office in New York?
25           A.     Six West 14th Street.
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1          Q.   And do you know what Khalid is doing
2   now?
3          A.   No.
4          Q.   Is he in Miami?
5          A.   Yes, he's in Miami.
6          Q.   Do you know his number?
7          A.   No, I don't know his number.
B          Q.   How about Mike Sanka?
9          A.   Michael Sanka, he's in California.
10          Q.   What did he do?
11          A.   He represents -- he represents artists,
12   players.    He is, like, a manager.
13          Q.   Did he have any role in procuring
14   underage girls for anybody?
15          A.   Never.    No.   Not at all.
16          Q.   How about Arnaud Brunel?
17          A.   He's Jean-Luc's brother.
18          Q.   Is he here in Miami?
19          A.   No.
20          Q.   Where is he?
21          A.   France.
22          Q.   Has he ever been here in Miami?
23          A.   Yes.
24          Q.   When is the last time you talked to him?
25   Been a while?
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1        A.      2006.     No, 2003.
2        Q•      Okay.    Is he close with Jean-Luc?
3        A.      No.     Well, he's his brother, you know.
4        Q.      Yeah.
5        A.      There is a blood relation there.       But I
6   can tell you it's, like, oil and water, two
7   different persons.       Two different heads.   Two
8   different mentalities.
9       Q.       Who are the people --
10        A.      A gentleman and a beast.    Mr. Arnaud
11   Brunel is a gentleman, a very correct person, very
12   transparent.       The other is the opposite.
13       Q.    Do you know this guy, Etienne?
14        A.      Etienne Rau.     He was another partner of
15   Jean-Luc, in Karin's.       Another gentleman, another
16   real good person.       Actually, Jean-Luc screw him
17   and he took him out from Karin's.       He closed
18   Karin's here in Miami, without Mr. Etienne's
19   knowledge.
20       Q.    And if we talk to Etienne, he would not
21   have nice things to say about Jean-Luc?
22        A.      No.     Not at all.
23       Q.       What about --
24       A.       Ruth.
25       Q.    Who is that?
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1        A.   Ruth, the other lady in Paris.        It's the
2   same thing.     She will tell you everything.
3             Jean-Luc came from Paris --
4        Q.   How do you spell her name?
5        A.   I don't know her name.     Her last name I
6   don't know.     Her name is Ruth.   R-U-T-H.   Like, he
7   came from Paris.     Because if he stay in Paris, he
B   had to pay taxes and this and that.      Everything
that he was avoiding.
10        4•   Who, Jean-Luc?
11        A.   Jean-Luc.
12       4•    Do you know how he and Jeffrey Epstein
13   became friends?
14        A.   No.
15       4.    Or why they became friends?
16        A.   No.
17        Q.   I mean, other than underage girls, what
18   else do those two have in common?
19        A.   That's the only thing, I believe.       And
20   it's very -- you know, like, I saw Mr. Epstein
21   once in a gym, in a church, very simple.       And you
22   see Jean-Luc on the same place and you see
23   Jean-Luc with a -- Prada pants and with a Gucci
24   T-shirt and with Dolce Cabana sunglasses.       It's
25   like two different characters.
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1        Q.   And how many girls, at any one time,
2   would MC Squared have under them?
3        A.   A lot.    Like, over 200, 300.
4        Q.   Other than the one time where four girls
5   were taken to Jeffrey Epstein's house -- and all
6   four of those girls were underage at the time,
7   right?
8        A.   Yes.
9        Q.   They were 14 or 15 at the time?
10        A.   Yeah, 15, 16, 14; something like that.
11        Q.   Other than that time, what other
12   occasion -- jog your memory, think this through --
13   have you known of Jeffrey Epstein to be in the
14   same vicinity as any of the models?    Was there
15   ever a time that Jean-Luc says, hey, Jeffrey
16   Epstein is coming up to New York this weekend,
17   we're going to hang out at the apartment or
18   Jeffrey Epstein is this?
19        A.   No.    Never.   Jean-Luc never mentioned
20   his name until 2003, when, actually, Mr. Epstein
21   got involved.    To me, you know, to me.   Prior to
22   that, one more time, you can talk to Eve.    She
23   knew Jeffrey Epstein prior -- prior to me.
24       Q.    Before you did?
25        A.   Yes.
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Q.    And she has seen him more often than you
have?
A.   Of course, because she was in New York
all the time.    She live in New York and I never
live there.     I was, like, commuting one week in
New York, two weeks in Miami.    One week in New
York, two weeks in Miami.
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17        Q.   All right.    Like I said, I would hope
18   and think that this whole thing -- that your
19   involvement is completely done.     However, there is
20   one case that Jeffrey Epstein has not settled
21   right now that could go to trial.     If it went to
22   trial, then we could be called at trial.    But it's
23   highly unlikely that is going to happen.     I'm just
24   letting you know there is a possibility.
25                          , do you know who that is?
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A.      No.
2          Q.
3           A.      No.
4           Q.      Joelle Pashcow?
5           A.      No.
6          Q.       Lynn Fontanelle?
7           A.      No.
Q.
9           A.      No.
10          Q.
11           A.                 , I know -- I didn't mention
12   her because I didn't remember her name.          Now you
13   say it,                   was a girl who was working for
14   Karin's.       She was not underage but she was a young
15   girl.        She was working for Karin's.   She was
16   studying and she was living at Jeffrey Epstein's
17   apartment.        She was living at his place.
18          Q.      And what was her involvement with
19   Jean-Luc and/or Jeffrey Epstein?
20          A.      She was working at Karin's.
21          Q.
22          A.
23          Q.      She traveled on his airplane with him a
24   lot?
25          A.       Yeah, because she's a personal friend of
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1   Jeffrey.        She was living in his place.
2           Q.     Anything else about him that
3           A.      No.
4           Q.     Or about her?
5           A.      No.
6           Q.     Inka Dury?
A.      No.
8           Q.     Any other people that you know that were
9   living in that apartment at any time?
10           A.      No.
11           Q.     Other than the people that you named
12   already, which are now
13
14           A.     I don't think       lived there.   Milli
15   was living in one of the models' apartment that we
16   rent.        Because besides those two apartments, we
17   rent apartments in New York for the girls.
18       Q.         Who decides whether the girls live in --
19           A.     Jean-Luc.
20       Q.         Jean-Luc decides whether the girls live
21   at III that's owned by Jeffrey Epstein or the
22   other apartments that are rented by MC Squared?
23           A.     Yeah.
24       Q.         And how does he make that determination?
25           A.     He's the owner.
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1          Q•   Oh, but, I mean, what are the
2    qualifications?     I mean, if he likes the girl or
3    they're underage or they're --
4          A.   No, if there were, like, good girls,
5    girls that they could make money, they were living
6    in an expensive place.     If they were, like,
7    regular girls, they were living in shitty places.
8         Q.   Okay.    But which one is Jeffrey
9   Epstein's place?
10         A.   An expensive place.
11         Q.   Okay.    So the better models were living
12   there?
13         A.   Yes.
14         4.                     , do you know who that
15   is?
16         A.   No.
17         Q.   Did you ever meet with Naomi Campbell?
18         A.   No.
19         Q.   Did you know that she was friends with
20   Jeffrey Epstein?
21         A.   No.
22         Q.   Did you ever meet Leslie Wexner?
23         A.   That's the woman that was involved with
24   Mr. Epstein, no?
25         Q.   No.     Leslie Wexner is the owner of
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1   Victoria's Secret?
2        A.      No.    No.   He was a writer.
3        Q.      No.   He's the owner of Victoria's
4   Secret, The Limited, Abercrombie.
5        A.      No.    No.
6        Q.     Did you ever hear anything about Jeffrey
7   Epstein's relationships, who he was with:     Male,
8   female, a person's name?
9        A.      I knew, because Eve told me that he had
10   a relationship with a woman that her father was
11   very wealthy and that's how he started his own
12   money.     And if you tell me the name, maybe I can
13   remember.     But I don't --
14        Q.     Ghislaine Maxwell?
15        A.     Yes.
16        Q.     And her father was Robert Maxwell?
17        A.     Yes.
18        Q.     Other than that relationship, are you
19   aware of any other relationships of Jeffrey
20   Epstein?
21        A.     No.
22       G.      How many times are you aware of Jean-Luc
23   bringing underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein's home
24   in Palm Beach?
25        A.     While I was there, when I was working
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1    with them, maybe -- maybe two, three times a year.
2    The last year; you know, 2003, 2004, 2005.
3        Q.    And how would you know --
4         A.   Not prior to that.
5         Q.   How would you know that Jean-Luc was
6    taking underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein's house
7    during those years?
8        A.      Because he was saying in the office:
9   There is a party at Jeffrey's house; I'm taking
10   the girls.    And the girls, that they were in town,
11   they were, like, underage girls.
12        Q.      We are still talking about 14, 15?
13        A.      Sixteen, yeah.
14        Q.      Sixteen, at the oldest?
15        A.      Yes.    And they were going, the other
16   girls, too, but he -- he personally was taking the
17   little ones.        Because the other ones, they could
18   go in their own cars or whatever, you know, with
19   their boyfriends.
20        Q.      Did you ever say anything to him about
21   taking underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein's house?
22        A.      You know, as a mother I always told him
23   that they were underage girls.        And he was saying,
24   oh, that I'm the father.
25        Q.      But you knew what was going on?
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1          A.      Not really.   Not really.    Not really
2   that -- because I would never think that they were
3   going to a party.        And I didn't know Mr. Epstein
4   in that scenario, you know.        I know Jean-Luc was
5   crazy or is crazy, but not stupid to be with those
6   particular girls, because these girls were coming
7   from a very good friend of him in Brazil.
8          Q.     Who is that?
A.      And he didn't -- I don't remember her
10   name        The mother agent of these four girls.    I
11   gave it to you before.        I don't remember her name.
12   It's a black woman.
13          Q.     It's not Cache?
14          A.      No.   What's her name?
15          Q•     Because I have that part of the report
16   right here, stating that Brunel had a connection
17   with a young Brazilian woman but I don't have a
18   name for that person.
19          A.      No.   He was having a connection with a
20   woman in Brazil that she was giving him
21   prostitutes when he needed it.
22          Q.     The connection woman in Brazil was
23   giving Jean-Luc prostitutes?
24          A.     Real prostitutes when he needed it.
25          Q.     How old were these prostitutes?
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1        A.    I don't know.    I don't know because I
2    was never in Brazil with him or nothing like that.
3        Q.    In Brazil?
4        A.    In Brazil.    That was in Brazil.
5        Q.    Was Jeffrey Epstein involved in these --
6         A.   Jeffrey Epstein was going to Brazil
7   because he has one or two clients that they're
from there.    So they were going, they were meeting
9   there and everything like that.
10        Q.   So you know of at least occasions where
11   Jeffrey Epstein and Jean-Luc were in Brazil --
12        A.   Yes.
13        Q.   -- and there was a particular person
14   that would provide prostitutes for them?
15        A.   Yeah, because one time I know because
16   Jean-Luc say it to me openly.
17        Q.   What did he say?
18        A.   That that woman was giving him, not
19   models; they were prostitutes.
20        Q.   In my notes it says underage
21   prostitutes.     Is that something that --
22        A.   Yeah, maybe.    They were underage girls.
23   Like, 16, 17, 18.
24        Q.   Ms. Vasquez stated, tell me if you agree
25   with this, that Brunel would have her prepare a
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1   list on a weekly basis that covered changing out
2   or replacing the girls staying in Epstein's
3   apartment and providing them with living expenses,
4   as well.     And then it goes on, saying that he
5   charged them rent?
6           A.   Yeah, yeah.   He was the one who said who
7   stays in what apartment and -- actually, what he
8   said is, like, A, B, C, stays in Jeffrey's
apartment.     So that was the order.    That's it.    So
10   the rest, Eve was supposed to put in whatever she
11   wanted.
12           Q.   The notes indicate that you -- you were
13   talking about                        being a
14   14 years old, that lived in Epstein's apartment?
15           A.   No.   I never said that.
16        Q.      You weren't there then?
17           A.   No.   I never said that.   So whoever
18   wrote that, I was never --
19        Q.      This is written off typing notes because
20   obviously we didn't have a reporter to get it
21   down.     So that's why I wanted to get her here so
22   that we know exactly what your story is.       It would
23   make it easier.
24        A.      I heard of that girl.    And I remember
25   clearly that it was a problem with her visa.         And
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1    that's why she -- I remember there was a -- end of
2    the year and I was with Eve in New York and she
3    was, like, really upset because they were, like,
4   mistreating her because of that; the fact that
5   they were blaming her for the papers, doing it
6   incorrectly.   And then Eve told me, you know, that
7   girl never work, she was never a model.    She was
8   living in his place but she disappear.     So she
9   actually never even worked as a model.
10          Q.
11          A.   Yeah.
12          Q.   And that's just something Eve knows
13   because Eve was there?
14          A.   Yes.
15          Q.   All right.   Do you know where Eve works
16   now?
17          •
18          •
19          •
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21          Q.   Has she spoken with the F.B.I.?
22          A.   I don't know.
23          Q.   Have you been contacted by the F.B.I. or
24   any government agency related to Jeffrey Epstein?
25          A.   F.B.I.?
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Q.   The F.B.I.
A.   Yes.
Q.    When was that?
A.   In 2008.
Q.   2008?
A.   Yes.
Q.   And where did you meet with them?
A.   In my office at
Q.   At
10
11        A.   Yeah.
12        Q.   So do you still see Sergio?
13        A.   I spoke with him sometimes; once in a
14   while.
15        Q.   Did Sergio have to speak with the
16   F.B.I., as well?
17        A.   I don't know.
18        Q.   Do you know of anybody else that spoke
19   with the F.B.I. about Jeffrey Epstein?
20        A.   I don't know.    I don't think Eva spoke
21   with him -- with them.    I don't know.
22       Q•    And what did you tell the F.B.I.?
23        A.   I told them everything that I -- the
24   same thing that I knew.    At that time I even had
25   maybe more information.     I gave everything from
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Amanda and everything like that.           But the lady --
Q. S
A.     Yeah, ME.           That was her name.        She
was, like -- I told her, you have to go -- go to
Immigration.         I say, go visit over there.       And
when I call her once she told me:           You know what?
I need -- I need fact.         I need proof, I need
girls.
I say, well, I'm giving you the tools
10   that I have.         There is nothing else that I can --
11   I cannot create something because I don't create a
12   story.       I tell you what it is.     This is the fact.
13   You go and you can use this to also do something
14   else.     But if your point is, you know, minor
15   accusations, like underage girls being with him in
16   the bed, I'm not going to say anything because I
17   don't know.      I wasn't there.       I don't know.     What
18   I heard, my ears heard, you heard, she heard,
19   whatever.
20       Q.        From Jean-Luc is the only person you
21   heard it?
22        A.       Yeah.
23       Q.        Or Evelyn?
24       A.        Yes.    That's it.
25       Q.        Who probably heard it from Jean-Luc?
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1        A.      And who probably heard it from Jeffrey's
2   office.     I don't know.
3        Q.     Okay.    But in terms of things that
4   happened at Jeffrey Epstein's house or homes
5   around the country, you don't know?
6        A.      Nothing.    We have never been involved
7   with that gentleman or his own things.        Never.
8       Q.      It was only a relationship with
9   Jean-Luc?
10        A.      For the office.    That started 2003.
11   That's when he -- that's when he actually gets
12   involved.
13               MR. EDWARDS:     All right.   I believe
14        I'm done.       Hold on a second.
15   BY MR. EDWARDS:
16        Q.     When Jeffrey Epstein was in jail, did
17   you know of Jean-Luc going to see him regularly?
18        A.     No.
19       Q.      Did you even know that he went to jail?
20        A.      Yeah.
21       Q.      I mean, at some point in time, but while
22   he was in jail, did you know for any other reason
23   other than newspapers that he was there?
24        A.     No.
25       Q.      Have you ever heard of this guy, Joe
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1   Pagano (phonetic)?
2         A.     No.
3         Q.    Larry Vasasky (phonetic), do you know
4   the pilot?
5         A.     No.   With his personal things, we
6   never -- as far as I know, me personally, never.
7         Q.     Yeah, no, I'm only asking you about
people who were on flights with Jeffrey Epstein
9   and Jean-Luc.      So that's why I was thinking that
to   maybe Jean-Luc would say who was on that flight.
11         A.     No, because I know one time I know he
12   came in his plane and he forgot Gucci pants in his
13   airplane.    So we had to go to the airport to pick
14   up the pants.      But I had to wait outside and
15   somebody went inside to pick up the pants.
16         Q.                       (phonetic); do you
17   know who that is?
18         A.    No.
19         Q.    Was there a Colombian girl, 13 years
20   old, approximately, being protected by Jean-Luc?
21         A.    Colombian girl?
22         Q.    That's all the information that I have.
23   No?
24         A.    No.
25         Q•    Who else would process the visas for the
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underage girls?
A.   At that time, it was Evelyn Valenzuela
in New York.        And whenever she was not able to do
it, she hired an attorney.        I don't know the name
of the attorney in New York.       And in Miami the
person who was doing everything for visas was Luis
Font.
Q.    Who are the people that -- that are --
you know most of Jean-Luc's friends.       Who are the
10   people who dislike Jean-Luc?       Who are the people
11   we should talk to about they know him, they're
12   familiar with him, but they're going to tell us --
13           A.   Talk to Khalid.
14          Q.    Khalid?
15          A.    Yeah, talk to Khalid.    Talk to Amanda.
16          Q.    You don't know how to track Khalid down
17   right now?
18          A.    Amanda can give you the information of
19   Khalid.
20          Q.    Amanda Grant?
21          A.    Yes.    And I'm going to give you a
22   letter -- I'll send you an e-mail of Amanda's
23   telephone number.       I go into my Facebook and I ask
24   her.
25          Q.    Okay.
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1        A.     And who else?     Who else?    Talk to Elit.
2   There is -- there is a lot of people in New York.
3   But you ask Eve.    Ask Eve.       She can give you the
4   names.    I don't know the names exactly.       I gave
Conchita a name.     And I thought that this woman
6   was really upset with him.         But when she call her,
7   it was, like, the girl was talking too much
8   flowers about him.       So it's, you know --
9       Q.      So you never know?
10        A.     Yeah.   You never know.     That is true.
11   You never know.     Five thousand dollars in Brazil
12   is a lot of money.       You know, you can buy a house.
13       Q.      So you can also buy somebody to be
14   quiet?
15        A.     Money talks.    That's what they doing all
16   the time.
17        Q.     Do you know of Epstein paying anybody
18   off during this whole litigation?
19        A.     If I know, I don't know.       But I can say
20   that, yes, because if it wasn't Jeffrey Epstein,
21   if it would be Juan Perez, believe me, Juan Perez
22   would be put in jail forever and ever.
23        Q.     Who?
24       A.      I'm giving you a name.
25       Q.      Oh, right.    Right.
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1          A.   Because he's Jeffrey Epstein and he has
2   all the money he has, he could shut up everybody.
3   But if it would have been Juan Perez in the same
4   situation, Juan Perez would be right now all his
5   life in jail.
6          Q.   But do you know of any people that
7   Jeffrey Epstein had paid during the civil
8   litigation --
9          A.   I don't know.
10          Q.   -- to not talk or to go away?
11          A.   I don't know.
12               Or -- I mean, I'm sort of surprised that
13   we haven't heard more from the models who were in
14   New York, didn't make it as models and were only
15   up there in the apartments for Jeffrey Epstein or
16   Jean-Luc.
17          A.   Because not all the models, even if they
18   are underage, they agree to do whatever they want.
19   You know, like, in my case, I was -- when I was
20   with the girls and I was talking to the girls, I
21   always said, you know, like, you are going to do a
22   job.   You're not being hired to do nothing else.
23   You work for nine to five.    Even if you go to do a
24   three-day in San Francisco and the owner of this
25   company wants to ask you something, it's up to
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1    you.   You're hired to do your job.    After that, we
2    have no control.
3                You know, they were -- there were girls
4    that they were going to do jobs of 100,000,
5    $200,000.    And they were coming, they're real
6   upset, that they never wanted to work again with
7    those people, even though they were paying.
8   Because they were, like, molesting.        No way; I'm
9   here to work.     That's it.
10          Q.   Who were those people?
11          A.   For example, there is a girl, a
12   Brazilian girl, what's her name?
13                She did a job in San Francisco.      And
14   the guy wanted to --
15          Q.   Do you know her last name?
16          A.   No.   No.   I don't remember     And the guy
17   wanted to take her out in his yacht.        And she
18   said, no, I'm going back to my hotel.        I'm here to
19   do my shooting from nine to five and that's it.
20   And the guy didn't want to shoot her that next day
21   and he return her in a private plane.        But we had
22   to find for her money because she had a three-day
23   shooting for $15,000 for each day or $20,000 each
24   day.    And because she didn't want to go with him
25   in the boat, he didn't want to have her anymore.
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1    But my contract was for three days.     That's not my
2    problem.
3           Q.   Who were some of the other people that
you found out later were trying to molest the
5    girls?
6           A.   No; I found out because I had a very
7    good relation with                        called to
8    complain and she want all her money.     If not, we
9   are suing them.    So I had to call them:    You know,
10   either you pay or we sue you for this.      So they
11   pay.
12               But with the other girls, I would always
13   say, you are going to do this job, we're
14   responsible to pay you for the job.     Whatever you
15   want to do after is not our concern.     That is up
16   to you.     You're already old enough to do what
17   you're going to do.    So that's why I believe most
18   of the models are not saying anything because what
19   they going to do?     You know, like, they were not
20   stupid.
21          Q.    I'm more concerned with the girls who
22   were staying at the
23   apartments.
24          A.    You can get all that information from
25   Eve.     Eve has all of that.   Because Eve was
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1    actually the one who was buying everything for
2    that place and things like that.         She -- you know,
3    if she has all that information, she will give it
4    to you.
5        Q.        She would have the first and last names?
6        A.        Everything.
7        Q.        And lists and everything?
8        A.        Everything.
9        Q•        Okay.   So she seems like the right
10   person to talk to?
11           A.     Yes.    You know, Eve will give you
12   details on everything that has to be with New
13   York.        Everything related to New York, Eve will
14   give it to you.
15           Q.     Other than that, your recommendation is
16   to talk to Khalid?
17           A.     Talk to Khalid.     Talk to Amanda.
18           Q.      Amanda Grant?
19           A.      Amanda will tell you a lot of things.
20           Q.      And she is here?
21           A.      She's in Miami.    Yeah, she's in Miami.
22           Q.      If I find                  , will she
23   talk?
24           A.      You can try.
25           Q.      I mean, she is obviously someone who
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2          A.     Yeah, you can try.
3          Q.    I mean, you know her as a person.
4          A.     Yes.
5          Q.     So is she somebody who seems like
6   would --
7          A.     If you start saying that she can make a
8   lot of money, she will talk.          That's it.   That's
9   the only way you're going to get what you want.
10          Q.     That's the only reason why anybody is
11   going to talk?
12          A.     Yeah.    You have to start -- if you don't
13   start with that, nobody is going to open their
14   mouth.      Why?     For what?   They have to know that if
15   they're going to open their mouth, they're going
16   to get something for their words.          If everybody
17   start knowing that they will be able to make
18   money, you're not going to have one; you're going
19   to have hundreds.        You know, if -- if -- talk to
20   Eve.   Ask Eve.       And, you know, give me a call
21   later.      And if you want, give you the name of
22   people in Brazil that you're going to call and
23   start -- if you start saying, look, if you
24   cooperate and you tell me everything you know
25   because, you know, you will be able to make
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1    $50 million, $20 million, how much you want, let's
2    find it.     If they don't get anything like that,
3    they're not going to do anything.       They're not
4    going to move a pencil.       Because he goes with
5    $5,000 and they're happy.
6         Q.      Right.
7         A.      They're happy.
Q.     Do you know of that happening already?
9         A.      Yeah.    I can say with -- with this
10    woman, that is probably with                  That woman
11    hate him.
12         Q.      Hates Jeff Epstein?
13         A.      No, Jean-Luc.    And now she's, like, the
14    best friend.     Jean-Luc never pay her $50,000 he
15    owe her.    And maybe, finally, he pay it and
16    whatever, and now he has her in his pocket.
17         Q.     Who else does Jean-Luc stay with when
18    he's here?
19         A.     I don't know -- he doesn't stay anymore
20    in his apartment.       He has a house now.   He rents a
21    house.    So I know
22        Q.      In New York?
2:3        A.      No, in Miami.    In New York, he's still
24    in the place of Jeffrey Epstein.
25        Q.      Oh, okay.    And down here he stays --
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2       MEM            Not anymore.
3        Q.    Other than Jeff Fuller, that's the only
4    real friend here?
5         A.   Other than Jeff Fuller.     Jeff Fuller is
6    his partner.     You know, Corrado is another friend
7   of him but I don't know his last name.     He lives
8   here in Miami.
9        Q.   How do you spell the first name?
10        A.   C-O-R-R-A-D-O.     He's an Italian guy.
11   That's another person he is very close, very
12   close, friend of Jean-Luc since Europe.     But if
13   you don't go to him saying about the money,
14   Corrado is not going to talk.     And if you talk to
15   Corrado about money, believe me, you're not going
16   to have one; you're going to have 20 names and
17   you're going to have 20 cases.
18             Pero, if you don't go with your tool,
19   which is going to be, okay, we can make money, we
20   can do this, we can do that, they're not going
21   to -- they're not go to sell his friend because
22   they go out with him.     Because when they go out
23   with Jean-Luc, Jean-Luc pays for the bills,
24   Jean-Luc pays for the gas, Jean-Luc pays for the
25   vacation, Jean-Luc pays for this and that; even if
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1    he doesn't have any money to pay his payroll.
2           Q.   How much time does Jean-Luc spend in
3    France?
4           A.   Very little.   Very little.   He's
5    traveling all over the world.      He's traveling all
6    over the world.
7           Q.   And does he have money problems?
8          A.   Yeah.   He doesn't have any money.
9          Q.   He doesn't?
10          A.   Jean-Luc doesn't have any money.
11          Q.   Where does he get the money from, then?
12          A.   From the company.    First you have to pay
13   Jean-Luc's credit cards and expenses before you
14   pay anybody else.
15          Q.   That's the rules?
16          A.   Yeah.   He's -- his American Express
17   comes for $50,000.     Of course, maybe 20 are
18   tickets for the models, that they going to be
19   reimbursed by the client, but 30,000 are his
20   expenses.    And he says, no, that's scouting.      So
21   we have to pay for that.
22          Q.   Okay.   Who are the other scouts for MC
23   Squared?
24          A.   Khalid was one.     Jeff Fuller is another
25   one.    There is another woman, Nicolette.       What's
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1   her name?     Something like that, is her name.      I
2   don't recall her name.      She does the scouting,
3   too.
Q.   Okay.
5          A.   In New York he had another scouter.          A
6   Jewish guy.     But now he has the office of MC
7   Squared in Tel Aviv.       You can talk to him, too.         I
8   don't recall his name.      But it's in the Web page
9   of MC Squared.
10          Q.   Okay.   Yeah, but he's Jean-Luc's friend,
11   right?
12          A.   Yeah, but money talks.
13          Q.   Are there any of the other modeling
14   agencies that are not friendly with MC Squared?
15   Such as Ford Modeling Agency; is that someone?
16          A.   There is a guy in New York that you have
17   to talk to.
18          Q.   Who is that?
19          A.   Uh, what his name?    What his name?
20   Jean-Luc sue him and then he sue him and he won,
21   because Jean-Luc never paid two girls.      And he was
22   the -- the general manager of New York.      And he
23   opened his own agency and he did much better than
24   Jean-Luc.
25          Q.   Do you remember the name of the agency?
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A.    It's one -- can be One Model.
Q.    One?
A.   Yeah.    It's Scott.   That's his name,
Scott and One Management.    If there is a person
that is going to talk everything for Jean-Luc,
it's going to be him.
Q.   And have you seen pictures of Jean-Luc
and underage girls in any other context other than
at model shoots, parties or whatever?
10        A.   Parties, yeah.    There were pictures.     He
11   has pictures in his Facebook with the girls,
12   hugging the girls or whatever.
13        Q.   Right.    Any with Jeffrey Epstein?
14        A.   No.     I don't think so.
15        Q.   Have you ever seen any pictures with
16   Jeffrey Epstein and the models?
17        A.   The ones that he took at the party.
18        Q.   Do you know where those are?
19        A.   No.     In Jean-Luc's computer.
20        Q.   Okay.     Has Jean-Luc ever talked about
any of the cases involving Jeffrey Epstein?
22        A.   Never.
23        Q.   To you or anybody else that you know?
24        A.   No, not that I know.
25             MR. EDWARDS:     All right.   I'm going
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1   to be in touch, maybe with the trial
2   subpoena.    Hopefully we can just tell
3   you that it's off, if things are off.
4   If it's on, then I'll let you know.           But
5   you can just call my office and I'll
6   tell you.
7          THE WITNESS:    Okay.    But I'm going
8   to call you --
9          MR. EDWARDS:    All of the Federal
10   trial subpoenas tell you that you have
11   to be there on that day.        But you can
12   just call me and I'll tell you whether
13   you really have to be there or you
14   don't.
15          THE WITNESS:   This is July 19.
16          MR. EDWARDS:    Right.
17          THE WITNESS:   This is for which
18   one?
19          MR. EDWARDS:    It's just one of the
20   very many Jane Does.
21          THE WITNESS:   And this is another
22   subpoena?
23          MR. EDWARDS:   It's for trial.
24          MR. FISTEN:    It's just for trial.
25          (Thereupon, the Sworn Statement was
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8        I, the undersigned authority, certify that
9   Maritza Vasquez personally appeared before me and
10   was duly sworn.
11        WITNESS my hand and official seal this 24th
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15               ELAINE CRANDALL
Notary Public - State of Florida
16               My Commission No. DD710458
Expires: December 28, 2011
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8        I, ELAINE CRANDALL, Registered Professional
Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of
Florida at Large, do hereby certify that I
reported the Sworn Statement of Maritza Vasquez, a
10   witness called in the above-styled cause; and that
the foregoing pages, numbered from 1 to 74,
11   inclusive, constitute a true and correct
transcription of my shorthand report of the
12   deposition by said witness.
13        I further certify that I am not an attorney
or counsel of any of the parties, nor a relative
14   or employee of any attorney or counsel connected
with the action, nor financially interested in the
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16        WITNESS my hand and official seal in the City
of Miami, County of Miami-Dade, State of Florida,
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