EFTA02731931
DOJ Disclosure
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EFTA02731931, U.S. Department of Justice, Epstein Files release (DOJ Disclosure). Primary source: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/Freedom%20of%20Information%20Act%20%28FOIA%29/Florida/EFTA02731931.mp4. Retrieved via Epstein Files Transparency Act Resources, https://tommycarstensen.com/epstein/data/documents/court/02731/EFTA02731931.html.
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Tell me about the part when you got down to your underwear. That was the last time that I saw him. What was the last time was that? That was a while ago, more than six months ago, I guess. You sure it's not any time sooner than that? I don't remember. Like, I told him I didn't want to do it anymore, but I was just scared that he was going to do something. Okay. Why do you say you were scared he was going to do something? Because I know he has a lot of girls, and, I don't know, like, he, like, was offering, like, some more money for it. Like, I think he bought her a car or something like that. I don't know what. She just got a car, and she told me he bought it for her. You know what kind of car it was? I don't know. I think it was a Dodge or something. A Dodge? It was blue. And she, like, then she didn't have money for anything, and she ended up going to Europe for, like, the summer. Did she go with him? I don't know. We never talked about that because I was just, I didn't like the whole situation. Okay. Did he ever touch you? Yeah. In what way? My back and my butt. Okay. Did he ever, um, take out any toys? No. Did he ever touch your breast area? Did he touch your vaginal area? Yeah. Did he touch you with his hands? Or with something? With his hands. Okay. Was this over your underwear or under you? Over my underwear. Over or under? Under. Over. And insert his fingers in you? And as he was doing this, he was paying more money? The maximum that he paid me was $300. $300. And that was the last time you went? When he touched your breast area, you didn't have a bra on? I didn't have a bra on. And your buttocks? No. Over your panties? Or under your panties? Like, I have a thong on. You had thongs. Okay. Pull you close to him? Yeah. And all this while he was masked? Aside from the massage and else? Other than, you know, what about? Yes. Did you receive monies for taking? Do you receive money for it? I don't remember. I'm pretty sure I didn't. Okay. When was the last time you had contact with anyone from the house? A while ago. Because, um... She told me that we're going to New York. Like, last time we talked. Last time I went. What's a while ago? Probably two months or more. Who called you? And she said that she was going where? That we're going to New York. New York? Nobody from the house has called you? They say that the police are looking into... This case is basically an investigation, an open investigation. So I appreciate it. What we discussed stays here. Okay. Don't tell anybody that we've talked. Okay? Okay. Did you ever have any intercourse with him? No. Oral? Nothing. Nothing at all. I'm going to show you a group of photographs. I'm going to show you a group of six photographs. Okay? I'm trying to see if this is in these six photos. Okay? It's important that you look at all six of them and be sure of who you pick as... Okay? She may or may not be in these... These six photos, but it's important for you to pick the right one. Okay? Okay. And take your time looking at those six photos there. Those photos there. How would you describe her? She could be hairy, but she's blonde and she has short hair. Blonde and short hair? She'd look like hairy, but I'm not sure. I needed you to be absolutely sure. I appreciate you being honest and not picking anyone out because that's important for you. You know, um... You have my card, right? Um, no. I left it. I think I left it at my job. Okay. I gave your sister one card. Oh, you went back to my house? Yeah, I went by today. She won't give it to yourself. Your... your sister? You don't know what it was? No. I just told her you were a witness and I needed to talk to you. Is he going to know anything about me? About the investigation? Um, I'm sure eventually he will find out about the investigation. Okay. Um, I'm sure eventually he will find out about the investigation. Okay. Um, I'm sure eventually he will find out about the investigation. I would appreciate it if anybody did contact you that you'd call me and give me Basically, just let me know if somebody's called you if they call me if they call you Is there anything else you'd like to to add to the statement or? Might be scared of What did he tell you he did for a living Something he studied the brain He's an investor. That's it. Just a money investor. Yeah, that's it It's not Half of the things what he told some of these people He's just a money investor. That's it. So don't be afraid and if they did do call just call me and let me know Okay, if they asked me like if I'm coming over or something should I just say no like I don't want to go You haven't been there Most last time you said you were there like Four months ago I Think it's about three or four months ago. Is there anything else you like to add? I appreciate you coming down and We're working out He said something gonna happen to me. No, I just like I said, you're not in any trouble whatsoever. I just wanted to talk to you I appreciate you coming down. Okay All right Okay, oh yeah, you want? any goals I was black Can you remember oh My friends no I do have a bunch of like the ones you described so i'm working i'm working on my go on by