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1-2-3, 1-2-3, call me the phone call to cell phone number, the cell phone number for, this is a reference to case number, Detective, Detective, Detective, Detective Jerry Carey, Palm Beach Police, how are you, good, good, good, is this a good time, or, yeah, what's the other comment, cell phone tends to, you know, have bad signals sometimes, okay, they go off, so, um, okay, okay, all righty, okay, that's better, much better, oh, yeah, most definitely, okay, well, the reason why I wanted to talk to you is, like I explained before, I have an ongoing investigation on the case involving Jeffrey Epstein, okay, and through the investigation, I do know that you do have some information, or that you were getting to the house, at least, and I just wanted to talk to you about what, what occurs at the house, okay, okay, now, your date of birth is, all right, well, if you could tell me, in your, in basically your own words, um, how it's that you met Mr. Epstein, I met him through a girl named, was a mutual friend, we both had the same friend, and I met her, and the conversation came up, besides, I was like, oh, I'm gonna massage her up, because also, and she's like, oh, I have a great client over in Palm Beach, whatever, and, you know, he's always looking for a massage therapist now, so she hooked me up with the number, and I went over there, and, yeah, I was like, oh, I'm gonna massage her up, and, yeah, I actually looked on massagers, and I've been probably a client now, I want to say three years now. Okay, and for three years? Probably, two or three, maybe closer to three. How long have you been a massage therapist? Three, I started going to school back in 99, so, and licensed in 2002. All right, so you go over, and you provide him a massage? Correct, and I've also had work on, I've had, like, clients in before. I don't know if they're even clients, but he's had guests, I should say, and, you know, he's been kind to people, I've worked on some of the assistants before, but mostly for him. Okay. Now, any of the guests or the assistants, other males? Yes, I had one gentleman, one older guy. His assistants were females? Yeah, besides, like, the cooks and all. And you've done work on the... No, no, no, no, no, uh-uh, sister girls. And do you remember their names? You know, I have the first name, and I believe they're his assistants, because I'm not believing that, that, I told you how I found that thing online, little international man, or man of mystery, money man, whatever, I was reading it, how it says, you know, his assistants are females, so I'm only assuming that they're his assistants. They must be, because they're the ones that called me to set up for the massage, so... Good. He doesn't actually need to call, I'm like, hey, Christina, let's come on over, and I know, I think I've barely spoke, like, five sentences to a guy here, it's like, we don't speak. You don't speak when you do some massages? Not at all. What do you say to me? I don't ever know what to say, you know, we have nothing, absolutely nothing in common, except the fact that we both value massages as important, you know, a factor in your life, that you need them, you know, but other than that, no conversation. Well, have you ever worked on anyone that appears to be young? What do you mean, that appears to be young? Uh, such as, uh, like younger than you. Well, I'm 26. Right. And, well, I'm almost 26, and I don't know, I think Sarah and Adriana are about the same age as me, it's not older. I don't know, they might have been younger. Anyone, like, uh, high school, high school age? No, I don't think so. All right, so walk me through the massage, then. You get called by either Adriana or Sarah, or one of his assistants. I get called, they're like, how you doing? Jessie's in town, would you be available from the side? Sunday at noon, which is, like, the usual time. And, uh, absolutely, so I get there, and I park my car on the side, not in the driveway, and I go in, and, uh, knock the door, and I got the door, one of the cooks, you know, so I went at the door, and I sit down at the bar, they always ask me something to drink, and then they come down, and they're like, okay, go ahead and go upstairs, and set up upstairs, you've got a morning stopper, like, set up for massage, so, uh, I go there, grab the table, and get that prepared, and then he goes in there, and then, um, I usually set the phone up for him next to the table, because he talks a lot on the phone, and, um, and then I do my massage, and then that's it, and then he just brings me on the phone, or I put the phone down, he's like, okay, thanks a lot, Chris, that was wonderful, have a good day, and that's it. Okay, well, when you go upstairs, which, which stairway do you, uh, which stairway do you utilize? The, I don't know, I don't know what it's called, the one that's closer to the kitchen, not, I don't go in the living room or nothing. Okay. The one that's by the kitchen. That's, that's in the kitchen, right, they have, like, a little round thing, it's like a little circular, it's a stairwell. Yeah, so it goes up to the hallway, and that leads down to, right, the bedroom. It's like a master bedroom, master bathroom, right? Yep, that's it, mm-hmm. Okay, do you notice any, anything odd or peculiar as you're going up the stairs? No, not really, I mean, we've got nice, nice windows and everything, and, you know, it's odd at all, man. Okay. Um, has he, does he come in, uh, clothed, or just wearing a towel, or...? No, he comes in and wears his, uh, I don't know what this is, though, for, this is how people normally get on the side, you come in your clothes, and then you get on the table, and you get undressed, so that's how... Okay, no, no, I know, I know, but I'm just, I'm just trying to picture it in my mind. No, he walks in, he walks in, I'm usually at the set up, he's like, he just, like, you know, like a wrecker. He comes in, like, hey, Chris, how's my favorite massage set up this year? I'm like, good, how are you? He's like, I'm so much better about that at year to year, and that's too much of a conversation we have, besides at the end, where he's like, okay, he's like, that was wonderful, have fun, or whoever's down there to pay you, so... Have you ever felt, when you're providing a massage, uh, uncomfortable? Not at all, not at all. Has he ever, uh, tried to touch you in any way? Absolutely not. Very professional. Okay. Has, has he ever asked you to remove your clothing when you're providing the massage? No. Okay. Um, not, like I, I mentioned before, he is, he is aware of this investigation. Okay. Um, because this has been going on, going on for quite some time, and, um, like I said, he is aware of it. Has anyone in his legal defense team or his private investigators reached out to try to speak to you? No, and I hope they don't, because I don't even know why I'm in this position or why I'm needing to be a consultant. I'm very upset, you know? Well, don't be upset. Basically, uh, the reason why I'm in contact with you is obviously we were conducting surveillance at the house, and, um, you were seen there, as well as, um, your phone numbers were located, um, when we executed a search warrant. Uh, at the house. So that's how your information became available to me. Um, not for anything bad. I just, I, you know, just talked to you to see what involvement you had with, you know, with the house, obviously. Okay. Um, so don't, don't, you know, don't feel upset or anything like that. I mean, I, you're not the only person I've spoken with. I've spoken with, you know, 30, 35 other girls. No way. Really? Right on a convict? Uh-huh. Wow. I don't know, because I know every time, I don't know how often he's gone in Palm Beach, but I know every time he is in Palm Beach, he usually does call me, not so that I think, you know, because he's told me that I'm, like, one of the best massage therapists, but, you know, he keeps calling that to everybody, because I do deep tissue work. I get in there, and I'm putting all my 150 pounds into him. It's not nurse-feudal-like stuff. I'm working out, not full-on, like, I'm like, I'm like the gym and massage therapist, you know, no fetus involved, all not working, so. Oh, so you, like, really hurt people. I hurt people. Does he keep talking with me? Absolutely not, no. That's why I think he has me over, usually, when he comes down and says, you know, I'm not doing the very right fetus, because he has, because I know, I think he gets a massage every day, if I'm correct, and so he wants a really good deep massage on the person. Okay. So it's particularly perfect when he comes in. You know, I work the same spot. He can do the back of his legs, and he gets to work. Probably he's fabbling so much in his shoulders, you know, with the legs, I don't know, but he's got, you know, some serious neck pain going on, but. Do you work his chest area? No, not the chest. Maybe sometimes, like, right where the, you know, the pectoralis major goes, that goes right from the top, where the sternum is and the clavicle and all. Maybe, like, when I'm doing some arm thing, I touch down on the chest with some compression, but nothing tickles, nothing. Going through, you know, a chest like that, no, not at all. Okay. I'm not concerned for that. You might have other people that do that, but, you know, I can't say what, you know. I don't know. How many times would you say you've been to his house? I couldn't tell you that. I have no idea. Probably. A lot. Probably. 20, more than 20. Definitely 20 plus. All right, so more than 20. Yeah, like I said, I think I've been a client, he's been one of my clients now for, I think, about three years now. Okay. Sometimes, there's cells I don't see for six months, you know. Right. And then there's sometimes he's out in my condies, which I think most, like, any regular season, you know, he's down, third year is January, February, March, or if it's freezing cold in New York, and they come down here to the, you know, Yeah, I can't blame them. Absolutely not. That's why I left up north, I just didn't deal with the cold. Yeah. I wouldn't have known before the end. I've always seen snow one time, and hopefully a lot. But I'm curious, and so, yeah, you know, again, sometimes I've seen him sometimes two, three times in one week, and then I won't go. I've seen him about six, eight months, so it's up for grabs. Depends on when he comes down, basically. Correct, yeah. Okay. Ballpark figure, what does he normally pay you for a massage? Well, massagers, he normally massages, you know, he usually gives the girl $100, you know, per hour. Okay. Not that bad. Meaning, you know, I charge my normal clients like $75, so if somebody would get outstanding sort of money, you normally like to charge more because you know they can afford it, you know, and that's kind of nice about, you know, being a massage therapist. You know, you can sort of charge your own hours. So, and I do sometimes work on him two hours, yes. Wow. Okay. My boss gets a two-hour massage weekly, and he's spoiled, and he's not no small guy, you know. I'm overworked. I need a vacation. So, yeah, I have, yeah, two hours, which is not usually a problem for me. Okay. All righty. Has everything you've told me been true and correct, to the best of your knowledge? Absolutely. All righty. So, are you saying that I might be getting contacted from? From, well, I know he has private investigators out there talking to people, and... you know, trying to find out, you know, people who I'm talking to, et cetera. So, don't be surprised if you do get a phone call. But just bear in mind that, you know, you don't have to speak with them. They're not law enforcement people at all. Okay. But if, you know, if you have any problems or anything, or give me a call. Okay. So, I mean, do you come back to the state, or do you, like, in big-time trouble or something? Well, this is an ongoing investigation, so I just really, I can't really, like, give you a whole lot of information, but... All right. Well, my boyfriend's going to be wanting to, of course, like, all my family, and my brother, a little inquisitive one, he's like, oh, Jeffrey, that's me. He said, I saw him, and he went and found his website online. He's like, don't pick up, dude. So, he went online, and he read his thing, and he's like, oh, you're in trouble. He's like... No, you're not in trouble. No, you better be getting a lawyer. I mean, I tried to explain that to one of you, but it... Okay. But I don't think he wanted to hear that. Yeah. Well, I've been reading that all the time. Hey, you know, I have a sister, too, so I'm very protective of my sister, so... Definitely. You know, he's just working his ass off. Yeah, and I can't blame no guy, you know? He's all, like, that whole memo thing about him, and, like, who he's friends with, and he's like, I think that's what kind of scared him. He's like, you know, he's like, you know, hi, people, you know, what's here, and I'm like, well, I didn't do anything, and I'll tell you whatever, you know, what needs to be said. Oh, I appreciate that. And like I said, you're not in any trouble whatsoever, and the only reason why I ask you these questions is because it is an ongoing investigation, and these are just questions that I do have to ask. Okay, so, and when do you contact him again in the future? What's the... I don't anticipate calling you for anything, but I'll definitely give you a call on your cell if there's any questions or anything like that. Okay. Okay, that sounds good. And, again, if somebody from his end calls, you know... Right. I mean, it's up to you. You can talk to him if you want to. Like I said, you haven't done anything wrong, so it's totally up to you. Yeah, you're good. Okay, well, I'm glad. First of all, I'm glad this conversation is over, because I can... Well, I know, yeah, it's a little nerve-wracking when the detective calls you and says, all right, I need to speak to you, and... Yeah, no, I'm kidding. I know, so... I can assure you that you're in no trouble whatsoever, and I tried to explain that to your brother, but... Yeah, I just want to tell you everything that I need to know, and I hope everything works out. I mean, overall, he's a, you know, very nice. When it comes to business, it's business, right? You know, like, he's, like, a very fun guy. He just has, like, you know, a large-ranged, like, attitude, and he's just, he's pretty fun, you know, for what I see, and, you know, so I don't know, but... Has he ever taken you out? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's never flown with him or anything like that? Not at all, because you know I think why I never was asked or anything like that? Because I have a nose ring. I have a nose ring, and I have visible tattoos, so... And I don't think he likes that, but, yeah, I'm telling you, I do a really good youth tissue massage, and that's all he was cared about, you know? To him, I, you know, I wasn't, like, the attractive one. Like, you know, I know if you choose the attractive one because of, you know, I just think it's just so pretty, you know, then I'm not saying I'm not pretty, but, you know, I've got tattoos, and I know he doesn't find that attractive at all, so... And I've got, like, you know, two visible ones, so, like, even if he knocks one, like, I had one at Maxwell before, too, he was there one time, and I'm a very strict lady, and I came in and said, he's like, why do you have these tattoos now? Why do you have these tattoos? And they said, I don't think they like them at all, so... You know, I wasn't what you would call take out quality, I guess, whatever, so... All right. I was her first youth tissue massage, so... All righty. Okay. Well, thank you so very much, and have a great day. Okay, you too. All righty. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Following was the economy. The time by my watch is 9.39 a.m. on January 27, 2006.