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I'm congested a little bit too. Today's date is January 19th, 2006. The time that I watch is approximately 10.20 a.m. The police department, present with me, the Palm Beach Police Department. We are at your date of birth is. You are a licensed massage therapist, correct? Yes. Okay. Obviously, I have explained to you our purpose of being here is that we are conducting an investigation involving a subject you may know as Jeffrey Epstein, who has a home in the town of Palm Beach. Obviously, through our conversation, you are very familiar with Mr. Epstein and his assistance. Before we begin, I'm going to raise your right hand. I see you raised your right hand. You found the choice to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so I'll see you guys. Okay. Okay. In your own words, could you describe to me how you met Mr. Epstein? I actually met his girlfriend first, and she got me to the house and talked to her first, and then she told me I was there, and that's it. Okay. And where did this meeting occur at? I approached him and said, I'm waiting for your help, and he answered the phone, and that kind of thing. I was at the center at first, but I was like, okay. Okay. What were you being paid, more or less, to answer the phone? 20 bucks an hour. 20 bucks an hour. That's not a decent amount, especially for a college student. No. You mentioned to me earlier that he helped you with your studies, financially with your studies. Would that be at EDAC, or would that be at... No, that was at a massage school. A massage school. Okay. Once you acquired... Once you acquired your massage license, once you became a licensed massage therapist, that's when you began providing massages for Mr. Epstein? Right. Before I, like I said, I was kind of hopping out and learning. Once I was licensed, when it was like that, it could really start getting a little more often. Okay. So you provided like... You know, like really teaching me how to put massages, and I just didn't need to do anything like that. Okay. And you basically practiced or got your training hours... Right. Okay. I'm familiar with the hands-off, I guess it's the school of arts over there in the military, I guess, where you have to have so many hours, clinical hours, is what they call it, I guess. Oh, no. Okay. But it's similar. I can't even talk to you. You got your hands on me. What they call training, or hands-on training. Mm-hmm. Okay. You mentioned that you did massages for other people in the house, is that... And you provided also a massage for... Massages for Jeff, right? Like massages for Jeff, right? Yes. Okay. And also... And also Ms. Maxwell-Lewis, too. Right. Okay. There was no other male that you provided massages to at the house? No. Okay. Explain to me, in your own words, how you would be notified to go and do a massage. It was different. I don't know. There's no way I would find out. Do you have someone to call me or who would call me, you know? Before you got here, or... I don't know. I don't know. Sometimes it's secretary, comment from the office, I heard that it's in your apartment, you know, and I tell you it's going to be available. Or then maybe you can call me, hey, we just got here, I think it's another small morning or something like that, you know? So you would go over and provide the massage, if anything sexual occurred during the massages? Sometimes. Not all the time, but sometimes, yes. Okay. Would he utilize his vibrator slash massager during the massage? Sometimes. And what I mean by that, would he utilize it on himself, or would he utilize that on you as you were providing the massage? On both. Did he always take a breath without the panties on? Usually, I always take a breath without the panties on. Were you topless at that point? I guess, no, I think that there have been times when I've had to just sit there for a while, but typically, no. What do you mean about the rubbing of the chest? You were just asking me about the nipples. What do you mean about the nipples? You mean masturbating? Right. Okay. I know there's so many questions, and I know you're an adult, and it was consensual. Well, it depends on what you're talking about. You know, it seems to happen, but you're not talking about it anyway, so. I understand. And I know this can make it a little difficult and embarrassing to talk about, but trust me, I've talked to a lot of people, and these are pretty much pretty standard questions that I've been asked. Did he ever masturbate you while you were doing a massage? No. No. When he touched you in your vaginal area, did he ever insert his fingers inside you? No. No. Did he ever insert his fingers in your buttock? No. Okay. What would he wear when you were providing him a massage? Nothing. Just a towel. Just a towel. Were there times that he ever removed his towel? Not completely. Not completely? No. If he was wearing his mask, did he still have his towel? No. I mean, one of the times he had his mask on, he looked like that, right? He wasn't like, hey, yes, you know what I'm saying? I know. I know. It wasn't like Harold's playing that. Right. Did he ever receive gifts? From Mr. Epstein? Or any of his assistants? Yes. I've gotten gifts. He would send me around, around times a day. He would send 10 of us, but there's no, but after a couple of years, he's been helping me out. Financially? Yes. He's referred you to other people? Just a, not one time. Not one time? It was for a family. Right, exactly. I think it was him and then, the man I grew up with, I think it was seven times. I don't know. I don't know. I'm thinking about it. It's the same. Okay, in the breakfast roll area? Yes. Okay. You mentioned before you rented a car for you? Yes. Your scooter broke down? Yes. Did he help you buy the vehicle you're driving now? No. No. All right, but there was nothing inappropriate or anything like that, that happened without your consent or your knowledge? Yes. Okay. All right, well, at this time, I'm going to go ahead and think about the statement. At this time, I might watch it at 1030.