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Okay. What is all I have to do is raise your right hand. You follow me, swear, tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth to help you guys. Yes. Okay. State your name for the record. How old are you? I'm 17. Okay. Are you currently in school? Yes. Okay. Where are you in school? 30, except for one class. Okay. Okay. So you understand what I'm asking you and what we're discussing here, correct? Correct. Okay. You're 17 years old right now? Correct. Okay. What I want to do is, obviously you have some information pertaining to the case that I'm investigating, to a gentleman you may know as Jeff or Jeffrey. Correct. Okay. Okay. What I'd like you to do in your own words is tell me how you came in contact for the first time with Jeffrey. Okay. I used to be friends with pretty much all of them. And I started with them. And they came up to me, approached me one day and asked me if I was interested in giving him a massage to describe Jeffrey. And that's all I would have to do. And I would get $200 for giving him a massage. Okay. And I was like, sure. There's no strength of passion. But I was like, no. I was like, okay, sure. So she called me. And I guess there was the head of his big personal assistant that was with him. Okay. And she got us an appointment for me and her to go. And we went over to his house one day. And he brought me up to the room, set up a massage table, told me not to be worried about anything, should go with the lights, put on a little bit of music, set up the bed for me, and just told me to be comfortable and Jeffrey would come upstairs. So I waved in the room and Jeffrey came up into the room. He introduced himself to me. And he went out of the room and changed and put on a towel. And he laid on the bed. And he told me to put on this lotion. And I started to give him a massage. He told me to give him a massage from his back of his legs, his hamstrings, his lower back, his upper back, and like right underneath his dead area. So I started to give him a massage. And then he flipped over and he told me to do the front of his legs and his chest area and his upper shoulders. And he continued to do that. And then he asked me to get a little bit more comfortable. And I asked him what he meant. He said, maybe you want to take off your shirt or put on your pants. And I was already wearing my good clothes. And I was like, no, I'm comfortable. He was like, okay, that's fine. And then he started to move his hands down off the bed and started to touch me. He started to rub up on my legs and on my butt. And then he tried to go underneath my shirt and tried to touch my deep area. I was like, I'm not comfortable with that. And he was like, oh, come on. I'm like, no. I was like, I'll finish your massage, but that's it. And he would rub his nipples. He would be like, oh, yeah. He started rubbing his nipples. And then he started to jerk off. And that was when I ended up kissing him. And my God, he might never. Yeah, we both do four massages. So I can get this straight. Okay. You called a woman named? Right. That was the personal assistant to? Jeffrey. Jeffrey. Okay. You went to the room? Yes. And she set up the room for you? Correct. Okay. Jeff came into the room, introduced himself, went to another room and changed? Right. Because after his room was in his bedroom. Okay. And he left to go into his bedroom to chill. Okay. Okay. Okay. And he would never tell me his last name? No. He would never tell me his last name. He would never tell me what he did for a living. He would never give me any personal information except for his name is Jeffrey. Okay. He told you to get comfortable. Right. Okay. What were you wearing? I was wearing a crop, a tank top that comes a little bit above my navel. And I wore a bra and a pair of jeans. Tight jeans. He did not remove any clothing? No. Okay. As you were in the back of his chest and legs area, did he remove his towel? He started to move his towel lower. And he was like, okay, I'm going to go to the bathroom. He was like, okay, I'm going to go to the bathroom. He was like, okay, I'm going to go to the bathroom. And then the doctor would be... At a loss. At a second at a loss. At what point did he start to masturbate? After he started to rub his nipples and I was giving him a massage on his shoulders, he started to remove the towel completely. And that's when he started to masturbate, do whatever he was doing. Okay. Do you know what the meaning of masturbate is? Yeah. To evacuate. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. To evacuate. Yeah. At what point did he reach out to try to touch you? Well, he... Before he started to rub his nipples, he was like... He was like, let me touch you the way that I like to be touched. And I was like, I don't feel comfortable that way. I was like, no, I'm fine. Like, I'll continue giving him a massage that I don't want. And I'm very uncomfortable. Because his boss just told me if I felt uncomfortable, just towel him and he'd back off. So I told him that I was uncomfortable. Like, after he started to touch me. And he said to back me right after that. Okay. He touched your buttocks? Yeah. Did he touch your vagina area? I would not let him. Okay. No. And you mentioned your breast area. Right. Did he try to touch your buttocks under the shorts? At first, it was just outside my pants. And then he tried to... I had a belt on with my jeans. So he tried to go inside from behind. But he could not. And I was like, I'm not comfortable. Okay. He put his hands under your shirt? Right. And you had a bra on, correct? Correct. Okay. Did he go under the bra or over the bra? He didn't have enough time. I told him not to do that. I told him I was very uncomfortable. Okay. So you stopped him before he actually touched your breasts? Right. And he started to be in a mask base at that point? Okay. Did he ejaculate? Yeah. He didn't. He only went off his... He did everything. He finished? He finished, yeah. That was the first time you went? Yeah. How much did you receive? I received $200. Was that the only time you went? I've been there a total of three times. Okay. What happened? The second time I went there was... And we went downstairs. The chef made us dinner or lunch. It was mid-afternoon. We sat there and I guess Jeffrey went upstairs to do whatever they did. And we just waited downstairs with the chef. And he had supermodels there. We were talking to them. They showed us around the house. They showed us the cars. They showed us the pool area. We were just... Okay. So you weren't waiting for... You know, did he receive any money? He received money every time he brings someone there. That I know about that. He received money for the first time he went? Yeah. The second time he went, did you receive any money? No. Yeah. I was just there because I was with my best friend. And he felt more... He felt more comfortable because I was there. He didn't really know... Only acquaintances. Okay. What about the third time? The third time it was... Me? Yeah. Yeah. What happened there? Um... The work was... Asked me to find a way and I was like, sure. I told Michelle about it. So she went with us and... Went upstairs again. But this time Sarah was with her. And... She kept the guy up from the cell. And we went downstairs. We were just talking... We were just talking... We were just talking... In the other room with his pictures, magazines. Yeah, there was a whole bunch of new pictures all over the house. And the third time you went, you didn't do anything? No. I've only done it once. Okay. Did you receive any money for recruiting me? Yeah. I received $100. Yeah, you received $100. Um... Do you have any... I don't receive any more. Um... I could... I could get it. I want to get it. Will you marry me? Okay. Now... I'll find it. I'll take it. Um... The third time you went, you... You saw... Yes. Jeffrey doesn't allow anybody else inside the room besides you and that person. Okay. You and him. Okay. And you received $100 to... To bring him. And the second or third time, you never went upstairs? I never went upstairs. Okay. You just laid downstairs. And the first time that you went upstairs... Correct. Did he ever touch you? No. I mean, aside from... Oh, no. What you told me, did he ever touch you? Did he ever touch you in the dining area? No. The breast area? Aside from what you told me? No. He didn't go under the bra? No. Did he ever pull you in close to him? Yes. He never done that. He would wrap your arm around him. Like, he would wrap your arm from behind. He would pull you closer to the guy. Okay. He moved it to me. He is very... He's kind of different. Yeah. I mean, very... I would say he's... Boy. Jackie, what's that hurt him? Well, I've seen that. I know. We'll get... He's just a freaking pervert. Okay. I don't know what the hell he is. He's a weirdo. He has sisters of his family naked. He has children naked. Celebrities naked. Models naked. He always has girls there. Constantly. He's basically a sugar daddy. In my perspective, he looks like a sugar daddy. He has gray hair. He works out. So he thinks... He has a lot of physical conditions. He... He has hair on his chest. Hair on his back. He's probably about maybe six foot one. He has a raspy voice, sort of. He... He would never discuss what he does for a living. He's so different from what I... From Hoey and everybody else. Like, my friends had talked to me before. Some said that he's been a scientist. He's invented things. He's done stocks. He's like, he would never tell a straight story to where what he actually does. So, um, he keeps to himself. After he's done, he just dismisses you. He does whatever he does and then he's like, there's the money, please. Did he have the money out for you prior to or did he, when you were, when the massage was done? When the massage was done. He had the money out. Right. Okay. When he finished, did the towel de-clean himself or...? He got up. He got up. In the room, there's two showers. There's like a... A steam room. A steam room. And then there's a shower. So, as soon as he got, like, I think he was done, he got up and went into the steam, shower, things room. Okay. Do you know the difference between circumcised and not circumcised? Yes. He is circumcised. He is? Yeah. Yeah, he is. Okay. So, what is his definition? What is your definition? Um, whether the foreskin hasn't been cut off or whether it covers the actual head of the penis. Whether we are circumcised, the head is not circumcised. Okay. So, what is the definition? What is your definition? Whether the foreskin hasn't been cut off or whether it covers the actual head of the penis. Whether we are circumcised, the head is still and you don't have to pull back the skin in order to see the head. Okay. So, he is or he's not? He is circumcised. Um, at the conclusion of the massage, when he went to the other room, he grabbed the money. What happened after that? I grabbed the money and I left. I go, let's go. And they asked me what's wrong. I was like, nothing. I was like, let's just go. I don't want to talk about it. I felt really disgraced. I felt really dirty. I felt bad. I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to talk about it. Myself, I was a human. I was only 16 years old at the time. And I felt like, you know, the whole time I was there, I was like, I'm really nervous. I repeated that . I was like, don't worry. He's not going to do anything. There's no syringe attached. So, I was like, let's just get out of here. Let's go. You know what? Did he have to be your age? No. Did he? No. No. When was this? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I was like, Halloween. Probably like around September, November, because my boyfriend and I were still together and he didn't know that. The strange thing, he ever explained to you on your way over there, what was expected from you? No, he never told me. He said, no. He said , I want to go back. He said that all I have to do is give him a massage, that he wouldn't do anything or move things. That's all I had to do, and I was received a letter for giving him a massage. Did she explain to you that you might have to get naked? No. Did she explain to you that you might have to remove some clothing? She told me that he would ask me to get comfortable. That's it. What did you think he meant when he said comfortable? I did think, you know, I would have to remove articles of clothing to stay comfortable with him. I'm like, if we, like, have a conversation, if he would suggest that I have a conversation with him, try to keep talking to him so I would say he's a nerd, that he would get to know me and, like, like me. Because I guess if he doesn't like me, he doesn't tell you. Did you ever use any sex toys? Do you have any sex toys? No. Have you had any contact with? Not since. I only talk to him once when I'm out in the park. I only talk to him once when I have a nice beer out. I talk to him about, like, downtown, like, he looks up. That's it. I've never, I've only met him once. I've never actually had a full-blown conversation with him. I only know about what he does, how he lives there, and how he's the personal assistant for him, and how he gets to call me or whoever else is, like, the main girl to get girls. Everything you've told him has been true and correct, as the best of you know. Correct. Just for the record, in the room, we're located at the president of the room with myself. F***. F*** me, please. Department, for the record, I can't find your last name. Is there anything else that you'd like to add to this? At this time, I'm going to go ahead and conclude this tape. The time by my watch is 2.35.
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