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Today's date is October 5th, 2005. The time on my watch is 11.50 a.m. I am present with... It's going to be very difficult for you to discuss this, but we are, like I said, aware of things that have occurred over there, inappropriate things that have occurred, but I do want to hear directly from you exactly what happened, okay? First of all, how old are you right now? 18. You're 18. Can you raise your right hand for me? You saw him wear those shoes, the whole shoes, and nothing but the shoes to help you guys? Yeah. Okay. How old were you when you first went to Jeff's house? I was 17. You were 17. And you went there with home? Yeah. Okay. Did she tell you what you were required to do? She said, Okay. I had to get him in the car, and he said he would pay me, and she didn't stay home much, or what. She said that I didn't have to do anything with him. She said he might ask me to take off a piece of clothing if that was okay with me. She said if not, I didn't have to. Okay. So, when did you go? When? Yeah, when was this? I don't remember. It was a long time ago. Was it a year ago? It was a long time ago. More than a year? Less than a year? It had to be in November. Or December? Of last year. Yeah. Okay. I know it was after November. When you walked into the house? Yeah. Who did you encounter? I met Jeffrey. I know he was in the kitchen, but I didn't know him. I didn't know that time. I believe. Uh-huh. You wanted to pray, right? No. Okay. Okay. I know we had to pray. She was on a boat. I know. But, um, okay. So, what? I don't know. I don't need to know. Okay. I was up in my room. You were brought up to the room? Mm-hmm. By whom? Jeffrey. Jeffrey brought you up? Yeah. Um, the girl, I don't remember her name. I know there was a lady that was there. I guess I don't know if she worked for him or if she was living with him or what. She walked me up into the room and sent me on a bar table and everything. Okay. And then... You don't know the lady's name? No. So, Jeffrey didn't bring you up to the room. That was the lady that brought you up to the room? Yeah, Jeffrey didn't bring me up to the room. Okay. The lady brought up to the room. Can you describe her to me? I honestly do not remember what she looked like. You don't remember? Okay. It's been some time, so... All right. So, you went up to the room. What happened? Um, Jeffrey took a shower. He said to wait for him. And he took a shower. And then he came out. The shower was in the same room as the massage table. And he came out. And... Um... He gave me a lotion or whatever to massage his back. And he gave me a massage stick back in the back part of his thigh. Who did he dress? He was in a towel. Was the towel on the whole time? What happened next? Um... I remember him asking me to take off my shirt and my pants. I was comfortable. Hey, Mom. Hi. Hey, I want to call you right back. So, how did you take off your shirt and pants? Yeah. Later on, I might have taken off my ball. I don't remember. And I remember he had a... Some vibrating thing. I don't know what it was. It was like a vibrating type thing that he had. That he was rubbing on me. But that was it. Okay. He didn't touch me. He didn't... I was basically in for like 45 minutes, but I was there. Let me, um... Let me ask you some questions, yeah? Yeah. How did you remove your shirt and pants? Mm-hmm. You stayed in your undergarments? Mm-hmm. Okay. At some point, you possibly took off your bra? Possibly. Okay. Was he... Did he still have the towel on? Yeah. Did he ever... Oh, I remember the towel was on the entire time. Okay. Did he ever take off? I don't think so. No. Did he ever masturbate himself in front of you? I don't remember him doing it. He might have, but I really didn't remember. Okay. Describe. Yeah. How white man... Gray, hair, not fat, kind of heavy, but, um... That's who, I don't know, I met him once. Was he a hairy guy? Yeah. Yeah, he was? Mm-hmm. At what point did he take off his lab coat? Um, he took throughout a half hour. Half hour, half hour. Wait. I mean, he was giving him a massage, and then he fell in love, and he got back. And then he was laid back down. And he started touching me. And he was laid back down. Okay. Was he on his back on his stomach when he was doing that? Um... His stomach on his back? I don't remember. You don't remember? I don't remember. Do you remember what the vibrator looked like? It was just white. Just white? No, it was just a vibrator. Did you have your panties on at the time? No. Okay. Um, did he do it over the panties, or...? Yeah. I don't remember, yeah. Did he ever, um... Did he ever use his hands to touch you? No. Ever touch your breath? No. No vagina ever? He said he used his vibrator, but he's not actually... Where did he use it? Where did he touch you? On my lower arm. Your lower arm? Below your waist? I mean, below your... But it didn't insert me. It didn't do this breath that I can't do it. Um, a few seconds, not long. It wasn't long. Okay. Did you tell him you didn't like that, or...? No. I wouldn't... I wouldn't tell him no. I wouldn't tell him no. I wouldn't tell him no. I wouldn't tell him no. I wouldn't tell him that I wasn't comfortable. I wasn't comfortable, but I didn't tell him no. And, like I said, I needed the money that he was giving me. Did you guys discuss anything? Mm-mm. Did he ask you your age? Yeah, I told him I was 18. He wants you to come back? He said he would come if I came back sometime, but I never went back. You never went back? You only went one time? I have no idea. Were they waiting for you downstairs, or...? They said... They said that he had a gem in his house or something, and they said that they would be there or wherever, but I cannot know if I'm staying in the kitchen. I haven't talked to anyone. I haven't talked to the nurse. I can't remember if it was $300 or $400. Do you know how much money the physician brought you over? I was supposed to get some money, but I couldn't. If he gave her money on the side, I have no idea. Okay. I haven't talked to her since that. How old are you now? You're 18, right? I'm 18. You going to school? I finished. You finished your high school? Mm-hmm. What school did you go to? Do you have your eyes for diploma? Mm-hmm. Okay. You understand all these questions I'm asking, right? Mm-hmm. Okay. Like I said, I know some of this stuff is hard to talk about, but it's important because basically you've potential victim here. Okay. What kind of panty did you have? Was it a found underwear or a regular panty? A found underwear. Was it a found underwear? Did he ever tell you to wear anything specific? Um, no. Actually, I ended up just wearing jeans and a shirt over there. Anyway, I wasn't dressed in any certain way. Okay. Did she explain to you that you may have to adopt it for a reason? She said I may have to. She said if I didn't want to, that I didn't have to. Did he ever ask you to touch him? No. But that's why I was surprised about that, because he never asked, but... Did he ever tell you that, right? Did you ever see him in his naked? Um, I wasn't paying attention. He got in the shower in front of me, but I wasn't paying attention. So you could see, the shower, you could see from the room? Barely. There's the shower, and then he had, like, a bath. If you come up into his bedroom, I don't even remember. But if you come into his room, there's a shower. If you come into the bathroom part, there's a shower right here. And he had a massage table right here. And then there was a couch going around right here. And the shower, he had just walked over to me and said, I'm going to take a shower. And I don't know, it was like, it was a bit comfortable, and I was like, okay. I don't remember if he asked me to take off my clothes, my top and my bottoms, but I think he said I'm not sure. I have bad memories of it, and it was a long time ago. Okay. So, you wanted to... Look, he wouldn't make it in front of you. He just made a choice not to look. Right. I mean, the shower was right there, it was, like, open, but... You were massaging him. Did he ever touch you while you were massaging him? Not that I recall, no. Over and try to touch you? Not that I recall. When I was massaging him, he was running, and I heard a start. And at one point, he had asked me to get up on top of him, and he was running on his stomach. He was running down on his stomach, and I sat on top of him and gave him a massage, but that was the only main encounter I gave. How did he approach you with the vibrator? I remember him getting up and getting it off of the chest that he had, and then he had just touched me with it, and after that, he had put it down, and I kept massaging him. You didn't like that, or was that your best area? Yeah, I did. I forgot. Yes, I did. I thought it was still in my other part. I tried to touch him in the back part of his leg. Okay, and did you ever say it was when you were doing the test, was that when he tried to use the vibrator? I don't credit them, but I don't want to tell you any wrong information, but... Okay, that's fine. That's fine. You have not had any contact? The only thing I know is that I guess she's working on fees now. Did you ever leave your phone number for him to call you? No, he never had my number, and I never had his number. Okay. That's real bad, and you never gave a s*** in mine. Mm-mm. Were you afraid when you were in there? I wasn't. I guess I should have been if I was in a room with a stranger, but... I wasn't afraid, but I wasn't very comfortable. Were you afraid to say no to anything? No, I couldn't say no, but... I thought I was in debt. I was in a lot of debt, and I needed that money, and he told me about it, and I was like, okay. You know, one time, and then after that, I was like, wow, I don't even know how many of these girls do that. He never penetrated you? Never touched you? No, that's fine. That's fine, because the vibrator, he never touched you, he never penetrated you? Mm-mm. He never pulled you towards him? No, that I recall. Okay. That's a good statement. Do you have anything else? I'm not coming up. Come on. All right, this time I'm going to go ahead and conclude the statement. The time on my watch is 12.50.
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