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...continuing now that my time is approximately 2.54... ...year... ...he took a lot of instructions. Yeah. With a freckle, and he was going gray. Yeah. And what else? Um, like, he, he, like, his skin color is, like, it, when I saw him, it was, like, green, and he had a sunburn, but it, like, didn't happen for a couple days, and his skin was kind of changing, and it was, like, a reddish kind of color, and he had, like, a long face, and that's all. That's all I can remember. Anything I like, please let me know. Okay. I don't really remember. Did you have any kind of, like, jewelry that was on his body that you noticed? I don't, I don't remember. Okay. Do you remember what kind of eyes you had? Nope. Do you have any facial hair, like a mustache or a goatee or anything? Hmm. No, but it, I don't really notice, but, you know, like, four or five years ago, I wore it every night. Okay. Um, did you ever ask him to do anything other than massaging him? No. Are you sure? Yeah. Did he try to, did he, at any time, like, grab your hand to try to put it somewhere? No. No, no, no. I don't think he did that. No, I didn't ask him that. You said that you straddled him. Mm-hmm. What do you mean by that? Well, I was on his stomach, and I was going inside. So, I was, you know, like, on, like, a bed, and then, like, I was putting it on his back. And, like, he was in bed with me. And I, I was bedding him. You was bedding him. Okay. My butt was, my butt was, like, on the top of his butt and the rear one like that. No, I would not say you were bedding me with him. I meant, like, underwear and the bra. Okay. Now, did you ask him to do anything other than massaging me? Mm-hmm. Did he do that? No. He, he, could I, first, I, I, you know, I'm feeling about, you know, standing up. And he was like, okay, my computer. I'm going to get the computer to do that, and I'm going to do that, like, every step on. I wasn't, at first, I wasn't really going to sit on a chair or, you know, that. So it's kind of like, you know, like, pushing my legs around the table so I can kind of sit up. And you could, um, still get to just put out, like, sit on the, you know, put out your body. Um, and then I, and I was just kind of, you know, doing what I do. I didn't, you know, I was actually sitting around. I didn't really, I, I, I, I was. And then, like, I got really fat and I was only going down exactly 50 pounds. I kind of, like, passed out the day after. So it was just getting, getting fat. Um, I never tried to touch it. Besides, like, you know, like, when, when we were taking, like, self-care sessions, you know, just to try to touch you. I don't, the only time that happened was, like, the last, you know, uh, last of the week. Like, you just, like, you, you keep, you keep, like, mostly, like, smothering. No. Like, um, like, when you're leaning on something, like, putting your face on it, you just go in like that, like, curve. Not, you know, like. Can you, can you tell me what you mean? Okay, yes. Can you, uh, I'm on, let's say I'm on my back. Where would you be? Uh, on your back. Where would you be? On my belly. Yes. Like, if I, uh, you know, bring my back, I would have to move like this. Okay. Okay. I'm going to have to move like this now. Okay. This way? Yes. Okay. Um, sorry. Can I walk? Yes. Yes. Okay. Can I walk? Yes. Can I walk? Yes. Can I walk? Yes. Okay. Can I walk? Yes. Okay. Can I walk? Yes. Can I walk? Yes. Can I walk? Yes. Okay. I'm still doing it as I'm doing it now. I'm still doing it how you do it. Mm-hm. When is it right? What's your name? Um, um, I thought your hand was like this. Okay, my left hand is like, is my left hand around your, you know, your shoulder? Oh, they're my arm, they're my shoulder. Okay, so I'm holding you like around by the right. Mm-hm. Okay. That hand goes, um, his right hand. Okay. It just gives you a better picture of trying to understand the problem. Uh-huh. I appreciate it. Thank you. I see everything you've done. Okay. Did you watch the press? No, because I was going to just walk away. I feel like I'm just going to die. I definitely think that that's the only thing that came back to me. I just didn't have it. In the way that I see you preach, and I don't know if there is or not, but do you think that there's anything in there like that may have distorted what you did? Like a video call in there? I don't know. I didn't think about that. The reason I ask is because he walked out once and then came back in, right? Right. So it could be just so he could walk off. I'm just curious. I don't know if he walked or not. I don't know. I do not know about it. Okay. So you just walked. He didn't ask for it. Where is that woman again? That's just talking to her. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Okay. But did he come this year and there were just two more holidays than more holidays? Okay. Yes. And I was very concerned to say I was 18 because I'm a female, done female early their entire. So I said I was 18 when she said how old are you? And then I was 18 when I cooked, and I said I don't want him as a son of a b**ch. So what other things did he ask you? Yeah, but I told him no and I didn't tell him anything. So did he ask you what grade you were in or did you tell him what grade you were in? Well, he said a grade one because I couldn't ask him first grade stuff. Okay, because I couldn't ask him first grade stuff. Yeah, are you sure? Uh-huh. Okay. He would ask you first grade stuff. That's about it. And he was kind of asking me about how I was doing. It was really nice. And then he told me how he was doing. And he said, you know how you're really sorry a lot of the times with these things, but they don't really deserve to be in your community for a long time. And then when I got to town, you know, you kind of just sit there and let them show you how they're doing and you don't think about it. But I kind of just said that. He just walked out. He walked out. Yeah, but on that day, I kind of walked, like, but that's the most interesting thing because a lot of people are going to the community. Yeah. I wanted to tell her about that. I don't know if it was up to the system because she didn't, I saw it online, but I don't know. But I'm pretty sure she didn't tell me if she was doing anything. She was just trying to stay with her in conversation. And I think that when I had my first graduation, she was prepared for it because, you know, it's a mountain. Yeah. So she probably told me when I went up to her, you know, when I went down to her, she was still talking to her. She was still up on the computer and she said that everyone wanted to come. To the house. Yeah. She was like, oh, this stuff is so hot. She was just coming up. She was like, it's so hot in here. It's so easy. And then, you know, the other day I found out something. She was like, you saw the chef coming. He was old. So he was like, hmm. So how are we going to do that? Yeah. So you asked. You asked. And I said, I'll come. And I said, has the chef ever tried to tell you? Nope. Oh, did you need a phone number? Yeah. I'll see you later. Okay. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. We'll have to see you later. I'm from Israel, katiness actually. Yeah. So we didn't. So this is the family that Joe didn't want to see. Because he doesn't want to see him there. So I will. I just gave them my phone number. I don't see any option in there. But. How long ago was it? Oh my god. I couldn't tell you straight but oh my god. It was 3 and 3 after… I met him at the hospital in the bathroom. Yeah. Either you didn't. You just wasn't here. But I was going to know. I couldn't tell you. I didn't know. How far back it was? And how long before? It was about about 4, 5 years. He just locked the door? How long after did you get into a fight with him? Um, like, a week. Oh, that's nice. I want to get into a fight with him on the night. Okay, so that is one week after. Oh, before and after. Okay. Okay. You can tell us about anybody else that you know. You know that, um, he wanted me to be my sister. That's enough. That's enough. When I was in that dark room, there was, like, I don't know if there were doors that looked in it. There was, like, a shelf of pictures. And, but you know that so many pictures of the door is about 15 centimeters. Or not, it's just in the open. And they're on the floor. And, um, most of, all the doors were tapers. So that just turned into, or they were not typical things. Or they were just standing there. Okay. I have a question. Do you know the difference between a real crime and a real crime? No. You're pretty mature with me. But do you know the difference between a real and a lie? No. Do you know the difference between a truth and a lie? No. Can you tell me what a lie would be? Um, you know, if I'm with you. Okay. So you, if I tell you you're wearing a blue sweater right now. I have to tell you you're wearing a blue sweater? Right. Because I'm wearing a pink one? Yeah. Is everything you're telling me is a truth? No. Are you lying about anything? No. I'm saying it's either. Okay. Not either. Okay. Is there anything else that you'd like to talk to me about? No. Because I really want to talk about... Nothing is really specific. Okay. So that's why you do not have any kind of sex with me? What? No. I... I know it's going to be a lot of sex with somebody. Right. Okay. I know it's going to be a lot of sex with me. Okay. Um, you at no time touch the truth? At no time did I touch the truth. At any time did she touch you? At no time did I touch you. Okay. I'll let you know that at any time. Okay. You are out. Okay. I am out. Okay. I will do my best. All right. Good luck. Thank you. Take care. Bye. Bye. I'm going to wrap up. All right. So we'll see you later. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
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