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Today's date is 3-14-2005, time now is 15-52, returning a call to S***, a telephone call that was received by Palm Beach Communications earlier this state, calling in. Hi, may I speak with you for a minute, please? This is Claire. Hi, this is S***, I'm good, I'm returning your call, I apologize, I don't know exactly what for. It's okay, it was an incident that occurred maybe like three, three and a half weeks ago with one of my stepdaughters, basically she was dating this gentleman, and the gentleman had introduced her to his cousin, her name is S***, I don't know the last name, we've been trying to figure out her last name, she does live two blocks away from us. Okay, I'm confused, you don't know your stepdaughter's name? No, no, no, no, my stepdaughter's name is S***. Okay, and she was dating someone. She was dating someone. She was dating a gentleman by the name of S***, he had introduced her to his cousin, her name is S***, I don't know the last name, because we've been trying to drive by her house, because she lives two blocks from us, trying to get the last name off the mailbox, but there's no last name. Okay. All we know is that she's 18, her name is S***, I know what kind of vehicle she drives, she drives a black truck, my husband says. She came over to the house, I think it was Sunday, and said that they were going to go and get some clothes, because she had an interview. Ended up being that they went to Palm Beach to a gentleman. We know he set up a two story house in Palm Beach, and he's a gentleman by the age of 45, and one day at school, I got a picture of a guy who got into a fight, and she had over $300 on her. So after asking her and asking her and asking her what was going on, I found out that this girl was dating this gentleman in Palm Beach, and she's basically his pimp. Okay. You know what I mean? She brings in girls, you know. They're young, they start off by giving this gentleman a massage, and he pays them, if he likes them, and he thinks that they're pretty enough, he keeps them around to do other things. Okay. And she's been doing this job since she was the age of 16. Yeah, we have. Yes, ma'am. Okay. And we've got, I'd call it a friend of Sage's, and her mother is a witness to this, that he had basically said, I am very upset at the fact that Sage was friends with us now. She was introduced to her lifestyle, and he basically said everything to this little girl that did, in fact, do things with this gentleman for about $300 or more, whatever we found on her. It was like over $300. Okay. Well, I wasn't quite sure if there was an investigation or if you guys had any work. Well, this is the first I'm hearing of it. It does not mean that our organized crime unit is unaware of it. What I will need, excuse me. I'm just recovering from a cold. What I will need is some more information. Would your stepdaughter be willing to come in to give me a statement, to provide me with a statement? Well, that's the thing. She got out of control after this incident happened. We thought maybe this gentleman had given her some type of drugs because the day after, about two days after, her pupils are very dilated. She was very fidgety, couldn't sit still. Okay. So my husband and I thought maybe he had given her some drugs or the same thing he did. Her baby got out of control, but she ran away. Okay. So we ended up putting her in the hospital. Okay. I'm correct. Okay. Which you might have saved her life. Who knows? Yeah. So she's basically in there. Right. She's not involuntary. So she cannot just walk out? Exactly. Okay. Exactly. That's what. Yeah. Between my husband and I and her real mother, we had to put her in there because between over there and over here, it was out of control. She ran away from over there. She's made contact with boys when she's not supposed to, and it's ongoing. And it's boys over 18. Okay. I don't know if there's a, I don't think there's a kid that know this gentleman, but, you know, my husband's very disgusted with the fact that, you know, we had to tell her, ask her what's going on, and she had to lie to us and tell us it's a drug deal. And then we find out from another girl's mom that she was a witness to the fact that it was, you know. Who is this other girl? Her name is. I asked her mother if she had that, you know, if she could give a statement or anything to be a witness. She said yes, you know. Do you have a phone number for her? I'm not going to call her right now, but I do. No, I know. I didn't call her at the end. Let me get the other phone. Hold on. Okay. I know her mother said that, I know she needs that information. Yeah, I do. Okay. And she's aware of this incident? Yes. She even called me one day because some incident happened at the school, and she had asked me if my other stepdad, they're twins, was involved, and I told her no because we had to get her out of the school just because she was failing, and it would help her out. Okay. Maybe it helped her out. I do. Oh, geez. I have her in my other phone. I think my husband has it in his phone. I don't know her number. Okay. I have to give you that number. You can get me all that information. Okay. Is there any way, what is his name? Oh, he's . . . I can get his information. Yes. Do you know what school he goes to? He's a redhead. He plays baseball. And it's his mother's sister who lives two blocks away from us, and it's his cousin, which is her daughter that lives there, and she's the one that's been doing this. Yes, ma'am. Okay. I just don't know the mother's last name. Last name. Last name. My husband and I drove by there the other day to get a name. Right. And I don't . . . Don't do that anymore. Okay. Because I don't want you to put yourself . . . Okay. Because if it was me personally, I would . . . you know, if an opportunity presented itself, you know, you can't . . . you don't know what would happen. Exactly. Especially with a girl who has introduced your daughter to a different type of lifestyle. Do you understand what I mean? Yeah. So we're going to officially put this into some type of event. Investigation, okay? Okay. The one thing I would like for you to do is not discuss this matter with anybody saying that you've gone to the police. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. My husband and I are the ones that, you know, I mean, we decided to . . . Right. It's either my husband finds this guy and kills him or . . . Exactly. I leave it to you guys to find out. Right. Let us do . . . Exactly. . . . what we need to do. Yes. Any information on this gentleman? All I know is he's 45. He's got money out the union that he can do whatever with money. And he basically does this with a lot of teenage girls. He just brings them to the house and, you know, he says . . . She says, I have a friend you want to meet. You know, you can make some fast cash. And, you know, there was a witness, you know, who had told her about this. And he told her that she takes girls over there and they give him a massage. They start off by giving him a massage. If he likes them, he tells them to stay and do other things. And if he doesn't like them, he just pays them and they're off their way. Okay. Why is this such a . . . . . . daughter got into a fight? When's it? This past Wednesday. No, no, no. It was in February . . . February 2005. Yes, ma'am. She got into a fight at school. Yes, ma'am. I can get you an exact date because I had surgery that morning and I had to go pick her up. What school did she go to? She went to the assistant principal who handled the case. She was the one that found . . . Because basically when there's a fight, they search everything. She's the one that found over $300 in . . . And I started out by saying, you know, her stories were it was paychecks. And then it went to extra Christmas money. And then it went to a supposed drug deal. And then when we asked her what type of drugs, where was it, who was it with, she was a blank. Okay. And then this is when the whole . . . She had confronted her about the 45-year-old gentleman. You know what I mean? The one that . . . We know his last name. But I don't know if you want me to call her mother and ask her. I don't know. Do you want me to leave that to you or . . . Leave it to us right now. Okay. We don't need to pursue anything like . . . You know . . . We don't need to jump the gun. We need to just actually plan this out. We need to get more information, get the statements, and we'll do it. Because I know . . . And it's very important that we do this correctly. Yes, exactly. Because I don't know . . . Knowing this guy, he's probably done it since his girlfriend . . . Right. She's 16 when she started. It's been two years. She lives somewhere near you, you said? Yes, we live on . . . Let me . . . Before you even go any further . . . Give me your full name. My full name is . . . Okay. And what is your date of birth? And what is your address? Okay. And your phone number is . . . Okay. And your daughter's full name. You did the right thing. Excuse me? You did the right thing. No, thank you. I mean, she's not going to think so because, you know, she's . . . Exactly. And, you know, we keep asking her, her mother . . . Because she was over there, her mother . . . You know, when they come home on Friday, she goes to her mother . . . And her mother's been asking her questions, and she won't answer. But she can't claim that it was a 45-year-old guy, and she went to his house. Okay. But . . . What is . . . Okay. And she lives with you? Well, we have . . . And give me her mother's address as well. Oh, geez. Let me go find it for you. No, it's okay. We don't need that right now. We can get it later. No, I have it right now on my phone. It's right here in front of me. I have everything out. It is . . . Okay. And currently, do you think she . . . She sees, obviously, her twin, right? She sees her in and out of . . . They have classes together, yes. But they're not sharing the same dorm or anything? No, they're not. No, they're not. Are they close? Are they close? Mm-hmm. Um . . . . . . . . . . . Do you think that she would talk to . . . You mean . . . About us? Right. Well, she has, and that's . . . . . . . . . Had told us about this girl doing it since she was 16. And, you know, if the guy thinks that they're pretty enough, he keeps them and asks them to do more things and stuff like that. Okay. Who . . . That's who I need. That's a step out of. That's a twin. Okay. Okay. Alrighty. Have you tried to come into Palm Beach to try to find out which house it's at? No. Okay. I . . . The only one that went with this girl . . . Mm-hmm. Um . . . . . . Has no idea where it is. He says that he's known of his cousin doing these things. Mm-hmm. So, maybe he knows of it. I'm not quite sure. And he's okay with this? It's like he doesn't care, but, you know, before when he was the first dating, he told that he hopes that, um, he'll become friends because he doesn't want to introduce him to what she does for a living. Okay. And when does this all happen? About, you think January or . . . Um, I had surgery in February. I'll tell you an exact date in February. Because was this an ongoing thing or just a one . . . It was just a one-time thing. Okay. Um, when I had, um, surgery, if I can tell you exactly. I had surgery on the 9th of February. Mm-hmm. The fight happened on the 9th. She went to Palm Beach either on the 5th or the 6th of February. I was on the 6th of February because I went to go get some blood work before surgery. And when I came back, my husband said that . . . He just come and picked her up and he even gave her gas money to take . . . Because they were going to go downtown. So you believe the incident occurred when? On Sunday, the 6th. Sunday, February 5th. Yes, ma'am. Is it the 5th or the 6th? That's what I'm looking at. No, sorry. No, the 6th. The 6th, okay. The 6th. Yeah. Okay. When she got home, um, it was one time, uh, Wednesday the fight happened. She and Tyler, they stayed home from school because the assistant principal said that they . . . She wanted it under them. Okay. Okay. She wanted it under them. She wanted it under them. She wanted it under them. She wanted it under them. And then she ran away, picked up some stuff, and left, um, Friday or Thursday. One of those two days. Took off with some guys, don't know who it is, um, and then didn't come home until her mother's house until like after midnight. So she basically won't tell us who she was with that night. My husband said sex to a 45-year-old gentleman, but we don't know. So she returned when? Like past midnight to her mother's residence. On the same day? Yes. Okay. Um, well, I think it was Thursday the fight that she had taken off, left the same . . . left the message in the refrigerator saying, um, it's 1.30, I'm out of here. Packed up her backpack and left when her sister was taking a nap. And, uh, we kept calling and kept calling, and then finally, um, she picked up her mother's phone call. Told her mother she'd be home between 9 and 10 and didn't show up until after midnight. Okay. Well, I . . . hold on one second, and what I'm going to do is, um . . . And you feel pretty confident it's here in Palm Beach somewhere? Yes, because from what I've been told . . . Okay, and who told you this? This was, um . . . because . . . Okay. I have her mother's number if you want it. Which . . . Yeah, I need it. Okay, let me know whenever you're ready. I'm ready. Okay. When was the last time you spoke with . . . She called me last week. It was either Saturday or . . . I think it was Saturday. And have you known this woman a long time? Um, no, not really, just since the girls have become friends in school. She . . . she called me to let me know that an incident had happened to her daughter's locker and that she had a shirt in there that was ruined by a guy. And that she was going to press charges against the two girls, and I asked if she had any part to it, and I said no. And then she, um, told me about the house, the toxicity, and made it, um, and told me . . . What I need to do is just establish the proper jurisdiction. Okay. And what I'll be doing that . . . by doing that is I'm going to obviously need to contact . . . Okay. Because she's the one who has the kid who knows exactly where everything happened. Okay. Um, and then I have to identify . . . And that's going to be easy because . . . And we'll be able to do that. Exactly. Okay. Um, all righty, what I'll do is, uh, let me . . . if you hold on one second. I'm going to initiate a police information report, okay? Okay. And there was very little information on this until I can properly identify exactly where everything's going, okay? Okay. So hold on one second. Okay, thank you. Communications, great, what can I help you with? Hi, it's Michelle. Can I have a police information report number and it's the station? Sure, hold on one second. Do you have an alarm? I know that it's going off. Do you have any contact information? Uh, okay. Uh, 28-0 to . . . Do you want a call number or a case number? A case number? Okay. Okay, your case number will be, uh, 368. Thank you very much. 0-5-3-6-8? 0-5-3-6-8? Okay. 0-5-3-6-8? 0-5-0-0-0-3-6-8. Thank you. Oh, that's okay. Yes, ma'am. Okay. I'm going to initiate a police information report. Okay. And it's going to be 0-5. Hold on, let me write this down. That would help. Okay. 0-5-3-6-8. 3-6-8, okay. Okay. Now, I'm going to initiate this report and we're going to try to establish jurisdiction on this. Okay. And what's your name again? Detective Michelle. M-I-C-H-E-L-E. Mm-hmm. Pagan. P-A-G-A-N. P-A-G-A-N. P-A-G-A-N. And I'm with the Palm Beach Police Department and my number, I'll give you the number, is 838-5-4-7-0. Okay. Okay? All righty. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Let me explain to you what I'm going to do. I'm going to see if I can identify these people. The first person I'm obviously going to have to speak with. Okay. And since this is going to be an open investigation, because these are very serious charges, I again ask that you not discuss this with other people. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Please do that. You know, please refer the information, give us whatever information you have, because I don't want to compromise this investigation whatsoever, okay? And again, the only person I'm going to contact right now is... Okay. And another thing, after this incident had happened and I had called and told him, you know, since Arthur's spreading supposedly rumors around school about her, Wednesday or Thursday... On Thursday, my husband's truck in the back was basically, like, sabotaged. Two of his back tires, both his back tires were loosened. And when he was on his way home, one tire flew off. So, and then whoever did it, you know what I mean, my dog, one of our dogs saw somebody running. When my husband got up, he said he saw somebody running. And the dog chased him to the back, to exactly in the same direction to where this girl lives. Okay. So, I don't know if that's another bit of information that you need. Well, it's good information because that way I can figure out. If you can figure out what is her address, that would be tremendously of help. But I don't want to put yourself, again, into a situation where you might confront somebody, okay? Okay. So, what avenue did you say she lived on? When we passed her mailbox, she lived on, when you go down the road, she lived on the last house on the right-hand side. I think I might be able to find. She lived on one of the last houses. Yes, ma'am, on the right-hand side. Okay. It's right towards, exactly. When you. She's on the right-hand side of the last house. But would that be east or west side? Or north, south? I'm not sure. When you're going down that road. See, there's no numbers on her mailbox. Right. She's got a black mailbox, and then there's a name, and then there's, the middle letter is missing. Okay. So, we don't know. Do you know, what did the name sound like or start with or whatever? Oh, my God, my husband remembers it. I think it started with a. No, it's. I don't even know. I don't remember. It's black, and it's got, like, these, like, silver-looking, like, letters on it. And the middle one's missing. Okay. And I just need, now, your husband's name. My husband's name is. And he's aware that you're contacting him? Yes. Okay. All right. I will make contact. I'll also make contact with. Okay. Okay. Those are the only two people I'm going to be speaking with. Okay. All right. Bye-bye. Okay. Thank you so much. Bye-bye.